Watch: Paddlers fight back
Hey, it may only be one wave out of twenty - 1:40 mark if you're time poor - but it's good to see a paddler assert themself at Kirra; to step in front of a step off, even a big name one like Taj.
And sure, he got burnt himself but every revolution has a setback.
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power to the people !
The circus is in town, again... Come down to "world class breaks" and see corporate puppets destroy any respect and culture of surfing by burning around on jet skis and snaking every person without a sticker on their board. All in the name of quick buck. This mentality has got to eat itself at some point, and hopefully soon -so those of us who are able can actually get a decent wave and feel safe in the water when we're paddling on the outside back to the peak. N.B. the sweep was manageable over the past few days -these jet ski assist folk are simply greedy.
Where is Marine Safety Queensland? These PWC operators are clearly breaking the law.
This behaviour is a product of living on the goldy. Just check the web cams of all the points. 1 wave ....multiple punters scrambling ....multiple drop ins along the entire length of the wave, start to finish. There is no defined peak other than right at the top of the points. No one is in the queue waiting there turn. It's dog eat dog.
Respect has long gone from surfing the sthrn points. This includes the pros and the who's who. TC Gita .....perfect example.
Most punters would be lucky to get 3 good waves in a 2 hr surf when you have to deal with 200 people in the water multiple jet skis with spoon fed pros. JJ Florence perfect example recently shredding the super bank. You can't tell me he actually waited his turn for the multitude of waves he caught in the vid......that many waves... and good ones I might add would be a dream for the other 199 surfers in the water.
The Hawaiians would be laughing at tow ins at 6 ft Kirra when they paddle into 12ft pipe...
Seen a vid where parko rides his foil until he can jump on his shortboard. These guys are pigs and i think it is fair to say that. Probably a great bloke to his mates and people he knows just completely inconsiderate of everyone else around him. Also sets the path for everyone else to be an idiot.
Music is dead.
Too much pop music and never enough Coltrane or Davis
suck balls sponno wankers..... talk about ruin it for the regular joe..... take ya stickers and ya noisy friggen fuel sucking pollution making squirt boats and go have a stickered up orgy somewhere else........
Agreed Ape. Even if surfers don't want to battle the sweep or face multiple sketchy rock jumps you'd think it'd be easy enough to use the ski to tow you back to the top and paddle in from there, especially for some of the world's supposedly best surfers.
Respect, where is the respect for all the other surfers in the water. Surfing is not about competition for most people. Is the ocean not supposed to be our escape from all the serious competitive nature of land-based activities?? I.e. Go to work, pay the bills, feed the family, be a slave... no! Time to go surfing. Time to relax. Time to have fun.
The real iron cross of the whole situation is the actions of authorities. It seems like a repeat of State high school mentality - the State turns a blind eye to wrong actions made by bullies whilst punishing anyone else who stands out of line, "you're smart enough to know better", sound familiar?? This is entirely illegal and unjust! It will not last, and these people will fall from grace -sponsorship won't save them from years of burning their own cultural values.
P.S. Mcface. There are no sketchy rock jumps at Kirra. Everyone else paddles or walks -which keeps order and (is a best attempt at) harmony.
Hahahaha great to see Taj get burnt by guys taking a stand. I hope it doesn't take someone getting mangled to get the ski's out of the water
Skis are doing a good enough job of that themselves:
I wonder if he found his hat!!! ;)
Just saw this; surely this is enough evidence to go to the cops!
kOOk
It's funny but it's also seriously dangerous...sooner or latter someone is going to get killed or seriously injured, imagine that hitting you or landing on you.
Hope the cunt blew out a disk
Man its a disgrace that the ski's can and do operate in those conditions, imagine paddling back out and seeing that coming at ya. Good on em for burning a few
fuckin dumb bastard.....was that parko stepping off?
It’s Darren Handley driving the ski apparently, not sure if it’s parko stepping off though
just had another look and its not parko hahah parko........wish it was ...how embarrassing
Embarrassing for DHD!! this isn't the first ski he's lost control of!
Step off
If you want to have a laugh (at the futility of the whole situation), turn on the Currumbin camera to see a whole flock of jet skis do step offs into three foot waves... There wave been so many of these powered pests out there over the past few days that the crowd has been scared away - too dangerous to surf amongst these rulers!
Every news channel across the country is running footage of jetskiis on the points amongst surfers and not a word from life savers, or queensland transport, or marine safety etc.
Every other part of our lives are controlled to the point of being stifling yet this continues year after year...
Karl, kochie, even virginia fucking trioli and every wannabe car park cop across the country watches on day after day...
I just don't get it.
I know the goldy is cowboy country but, one has to ask, who really is in charge on the gold coast?
That’s at least 2 skis DHD has ditched in the area if it’s him. Years ago he got washed up on froggies
Salt water cowboys = the jet ski effect.
Every year kirra breaks and this stuff happens. Too much money, not enough intelligence and skill in the line ups now days.
Every year this happens ......
Simple - just drop in on them. If ever I see one towing in at my local I'll just drop in on the bastard. They never argue back because they know they're in the wrong.
Why don't we all agree collectively that whenever we see a tow-in where the conditions don't suit (i.e. six-foot Kirra), just drop in.
Whenever you can paddle into a wave, you should have right of way over any idiot who used a jet ski assist.
Even if you were paddling against the sweep to remain in a good position an they get dropped back into the best spot by jet ski.
And whoever can identify persons in the videos, should report them to police.
Wavepools, jetskis in 4ft surf....whats it all coming to i ask. I think this Gita swell has been the most overhyped one of them all. Ive really noticed what the hype actually does to people. Around my way ive seen some really quere things. The swell didnt get clean or near being good but i think because of the hype they have been making themselves believe it was pumping???. WEIRD SHIT going on!!!!.
Yep and we are all on here commenting/supporting one of the sites that causes a lot of the hype (along with CW), funny isn't it. The same happened with the "Bombing Low" that turned out to be nothing more than an average day of surfing in the SW of WA. Surf forecasting has opened the once revered art of actually knowing when the surf was going to be good to every muppet and his dog. It is only going to get worse, the genie is out and causing havoc.
well said, sooo true
Bombing low is weather terminology for a particular type of system, it doesn't imply a massive swell - no fault of swellnet if some peanuts get hyped up over a name. And with ypur gripes about these forecasting sites, the long range forecast data is available for everybody these days - but look at last Friday's forecasts from coastalwatch and the BOM... they both blindly followed what the data predictions gave them and they forecast 4-6 foot surf for Gold Coast. Swellnet was the only site that went out on a limb and accurately predicted it building to 8-10ft on Sunday/Monday, and did so with great detail.
Thanks for the meteorological lesson, do you have shares in SN? Go back and read the write ups before the "Bombing Low" event, it was hyped. Yes you're dead right, the data is available for all to see, my point is dumb and dumber usually don't know how to interpret it and forecasting sites have put it in layman's terms making it easy for the masses to simply follow like sheep whenever there's mention of a swell coming.
Crowd fund a legal team? I wouldn't be surprised if that got a pretty good response. I have no time for these entitled pricks. Solid surf for SE Qld but I can't imagine too many other places where people would even think about getting the jet ski out for this, let alone amongst other paddling surfers. Remember also if you buy shit from Billabong/Rip Curl etc you're just paying for their jetskis.
Jeezus
Wat a friggin cowboy!!!
Someone is gunna get run over by these twats.
WTF is going on with the Laws
The cops would crucify a driver for doing a burnout in a carpark or street and losing control of a vehicle...
Every swell this shit happens....the ski rego number is clearly visible...Some Action please FFS !
Thats crazy ski stack footage. I thought the driver was getting cocky and doing reos until he lost the 2nd passenger.
It must drive the locals nuts. I've only experienced aqua bogans in close to a lineup once and getting 30m from my kid got this bull seeing red. There's an explosion of these things every summer, luckily they mostly confine themselves to a set area.
When skis are used to tow around here, there's usually a really good reason for it (massive) or they choose a reef that crew don't really bother paddling.
Surely for Kirra paddle is the ultimate test (note big wave tour incorporating paddle and pushing the boundaries where before it was tow & skis) and some of these guys are the best surfers there, they will still get very good waves if they paddle. MP would have outpaddled and outsurfed the lot without a ski.
"It must drive the locals nuts". Thats the most annoying part, most of these idiots are locals as well.
And yeah paddle progression at big wave spots like Jaws make ski assists at 6ft Kirra look pretty pathetic.
Are there any outer bombies they could go to? The Tweed bar? Ben had a good pic of something in that vicinity that looked perfect for towing.
Yup, and it looked real good this morning. Two skis out there and seven at Kirra when I checked.
I saw it go down.. DHD was lucky there wasn't a bomb set behind it and the other skis raced to his rescue . they recovered it in the gutter and continued on their merry way . This isnt the first ski, HE, or many others have lost control of . It is just a matter of time ...
sit on the hill with a snipers rifle and shoot the fuckers !
South Oz Desert style
Pumped up self indulgent head up their arse pros can lick my sweaty nut sack after a bout of the runs. They don't know what surfing means anymore, it's all about how many waves they can clock up resulting in exposure, to feed their egos, and how many average joes they burn in the process.
Normally when the skis go out over your way at say margs bommie It’s usually needed and guys will pull back if I paddle out any way, but not at goldy
Not a fan then quokka!!!!
Vic I'm just glad I don't live there and have to deal with all of that. I reckon SN needs to interview a couple of these "Pros" and ask them what surfing means to them, would be an interesting answer. You've got to question the word "Professional" being used in the same sentence as these blokes, if you are labelled a "Professional" in other professions then you are obliged, usually by law, to behave like one and if not then there are consequences. The sponsors of these surfers should be reigning them in because at the end of the day they represent their brand and this sort of behaviour is (should be) damaging to the said brand. I wonder if when they sign a contract whether there is a "good beahviour" clause in there, if not then there should be, you would think that MIGHT make them pull their heads in, i.e. they get docked some of their sponsorship money if found to be behaving like a knob.
The sponsors can then be the police because it seems the police or the responsible authorities are toothless in QLD.
20 years ago I was a super budget trip staying with the locals in the Mentawais. While surfing a break by myself, a group of sponsored surfers rocked up. One on the kids paddled inside me straight of the boat, and the CT surfer in the group gave him an absolute bollocking. I was even wearing their sponsor's wet shirt so the CT pro told the young bloke that I was funding his trip and he should pull his fucking head in. The young bloke was sent to the back of the line and the CT guy made sure nobody paddled inside anyone for the session. Those were the days!!
I was in Indo a few years back and a heap of sponno surfers showed up on a boat. But they were all cunts.
Fortunately we don't have an issue with clowns on jetskis where I'm from. If one of those fuckers was buzzing round my local I'd be calling the cops. It's a joke really, I can't understand why nothing seems to be done about it.
Get the camera's out when these clowns come down, ask em for comment and film it. "Hi [famous name here] welcome to "Naked to the bone TV", why the jet ski, everyone else is paddling, to big for you is it?" "Uh well, you know fuck the paddlers! I get paid for this shit and, and I gotta sell more [mass produced sponsors board name here] and get the kids to drink more Red Bullshit cos you know it makes me surf good, lifestyle bra! Sponsor money fkn rules!". "Yea right, cos you look like a bloody kook mate using a ski to step off while the real men are paddling in, what do you have to say to that?" "Uh, ummm, So like fuck off, who are you callin a kook! I got a fukn jetski! I get paid for this shit! I own all of youse and your shitty break, when it breaks!". Film them, name them and shame them.
I would love to see the risk assessment the state government have done on this, it is not a case of if but when someone get's seriously hurt or killed.
It's insane, you should see the risk assessment and staff quals/training and equipment you need to get 15 kids to go for a swim/bodysurf in the ocean (quals for both land and water staff)... the costs stack up. The kids lose out if it's not feasible to actually do the activity when all is considered :(
And existing in this universe, which apparently is not a parallel universe, is Kirra on the weekend and skis as projectiles in the lip with crew paddling the same break.
So 100% its Darren Handley kooking on the ski.
I've never had to deal with pricks on jet skis down south in Vic, but it's not just them it's the me, me, me.. culture. Been surfing for over 40 years and I've never understood when you have been sitting in the line up waiting for your go and people paddle past you into prime spot and then take the next wave, and do it over and over again. As an older surfer it's harder to get a wave. What we need is a floating ticket dock, like at the deli at Woolworths! Kidding of course, but the surf is full of selfish jerks.
Amen to that top dog.
The most frightening prospect for me in all this is the potential loss of our self regulation. I know it was a joke from Toppa about the ticket dock, but how far in the future is some kind of quota/ticket/roster/payment(!) going to be? Ever increasing demand for a finite resource leading to a Lord of the Flies style, Hobbesian hell in the lineup.... in turn forcing some kind of regulation.
I suggest for anyone sufficiently put out by knobhead jetski-hoping pro surfer A, to boycott Surfer A's sponsor's products AND send a letter to the company telling them what you are doing and why.
That's so true. The time is now to discuss it (in media: Swellnet, the mags, directly with sponsors/the ski guys) - work out a way of self regulation.
If we don't, we end up in the Hobbesian hell of OHS that is everywhere else.
(Very much liked the classic literature reference...)
Sooo, whats the deal? We can all agree to burn anyone that has been ski assisted ?? I've lost a lot of waves to these guys, including at kirra the last two days . do they deserve the lion's share??? After stepping off, you can race down the line before the thing even throws . Paddle and you have to knife it, hassle, paddle, paddle and paddle!! Lets make it part of the etiquette . Fight back!! We have earn't the wave you have been assisted . Expect to be burnt, you'll get ASSISTED into more, (unless you'er tow chum is DHD, you'er lucky you did'nt loose that one on the rocks too). IF you can paddle it, you get priority !!!!!
I’m in
Hey salty heav
Been doing that already
The more that join in the better
Nice one.
The more the better for sure....
I had to ditch my board and dive for a lobster to avoid being run over by a ski ploughing through the trough at 6 foot Kirra a few years ago driven by D Handley. Ironically it was my first surf on a brand new DHD ! The leggy snapped like a piece of spaghetti and by the time I got to the beach the board was no where to be found anywhere ! I looked for ages. No help was offered while I dealt with the 10 minute swim in by anyone on a ski that day. Since then I drop in on anyone that gets whipped in whenever I'm in a position to do so. I encourage all paddlers to burn these greedy jet ski assisted surfers when its safe to do so. Where do they all launch from ?
They launch at Tweed, or Currumbin if that's the target spot..
Saw a clip on ABC news of the surf on the goldy and somebody stepping off a ski on a 4 footer, the ski going down the face missed a paddler by fuck all.
Wasnt even interested at looking at someone being towed in. My focus was watching someone who paddled out (full guts effort) paddle to line up & perpare for take off. The most amazing thing to ever watch. As an old school surfer about fitness, guts & glory i was taught in the line up. F the motorized pollution noisy f ing things off......
Some good ideas on this page. Women's underwear into jet inlets?? Team meeting??
DaHui/Hawaiian style:
http://indosurflife.com/2012/07/the-worlds-notorious-surf-gangs/
Just remembered: had a jet ski crash through the top of a barrel I was riding one time.
In all seriousness the jet ski thing has gotta go. It’s simple, we all need to start a campaign to have them banned from the snapper to Kirra stretch. Easy done as it’s an internationally renowned wave garden and doesn’t get big enough to need skis. Petition, media, protests. Let’s all paddle out during the final of the quicksilver pro and swamp them. Will get noticed and guaranteed to get change. Gotta work together but.
Terrorists plowing thru the Mall is tragic and gets life in prison.(R.I.P)
Terrorists plowing thru lineup, depth charging cyclonic waves wins Australian of the Year.
Pure Evil warrants Bodybasherz/Boardz/Sail alliance . Let's destroy Richie Rich's pimps.
Face of The Law
Qld Police get into all sorts of troubles for chasing crims...
Don't count on any suicide cyclonic surfplow squadron.
Exception to the rule being..."ACA GANGS". Hoons/Bludgers/"Tinnie" Rats...They're Toast!
TV runs generic meanie names-choose: (Jet-ski... Pratz/Ferals/Cows/Mules/Leeches/slugz).
Jetski redesign
Could easily prohibit step off...(Richie Rich just retrofits & doubles price of boards).
Doesn't do a thing to stop Tow ins....Use the gorilla's neck collar Richie Rich would.
Eco fix
Giant Jellyfish Bollards + Kirra Reef Seaweed Trial..."Hey what! My motor's cuttin' out!"
Shark net/Drum line Security! I'll come to that next.
Interested Parties
WSR/WSL/facebook/CASA/Qld Govt/GCCC/Local surf Clubs/SLSQ/Police +More...
Here's where the answer lies: By warranting Jet Ski restriction at every level, little by little.
Before you know it...
Shark net Security extends to reef habitat reconstruction prohibits Jet Ski 300m from shore.
Law enforcement will be by industry. Not by force less by fines but mostly by loss of cred.
WSR follows CASA banning all air/sea robot free reserves for safety of rescues/aviation.
Surf Qld bans performance enhancing Jet Ski pratz from their club comps for life.
IOC place 4 year bans on cheating surfers riding/training/sleeping with robots.
Surf cowboys will be confined to Jetski jousts/pillow fights/rodeos @ Kelly's Surf Ranch.
Dimwits !!!
#HERBIESFAULT!
Every year this topic lights up on Swellnet. Stu and the guys have gone into lots of detail about the legals in the past and it seems no matter how many people complain nothing is or can be done. If I remember it right PWCs are free to run riot as soon as the beaches are closed to swimmers.
It wouldn't happen where I live because the police actively police PWCs because people have died at bay beaches and the law is clear. PWCs and power boats have also been banned from bay beaches on the basis of noise and general nuisance. The 5 knots within 200 meters of the shoreline is strictly policed ........ so, why are PWCs allowed to buzz the surf and surfers in QLD with such immunity?
Good luck with this guys, reckon we will all be back here next year, like many things its just all going to shit.
^^ Exactly.
Here's an article from 2015 (the laws are still valid):
https://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2015/02/25/tow-surfing-and-kirra-maze-legislation
And here's Warren Young's email if you want to do something about it: [email protected]
Warren Young is the head of QLD lifeguards, so it's his call to close the beaches and allow the skis in.
Good article, so the regulations are in place since 2010, 6kts & 200m from swimmers. Paddle surfers are in nebulous position then. If we were to class paddle surfers similar to swimmers (face it, a ski running one over would be very similar to a swimmer being run over) - then it seems there's a bit of regulation that's not being enforced. With multiple camera and film shots to record this.
Or is it that when beaches are declared closed at 4-6ft paddle surfers are prohibited by the regs? As silly as that sounds.
Anyone considered a change.org petition directed at the local government? Clearly, Warren Young doesn’t care enough if this has been an ongoing issue for a number of years.
Surely the jetski issue is just one facet of an altogether larger and more widespread problem, that being some people using an advantage to get more than their share of waves without consideration of others.
Take the jetskis out of the lineup and it will be an improvement for sure (and infinitely safer) but those same guys are going to be doing all the usual bullshit that they do.
There's one or two in every half competitive lineup right? Some twerp who repeatedly paddles inside/snakes/drops in, whatever. And the 90+ percent of surfers who are fair and reasonable let it continue by their reluctance to call it out.
I don't have a solution for this despite giving it a great deal of thought and trying a bunch of things out in the water. Change is bound to be gradual, because what we are really trying to change is core to the culture of surfing as it's become - The much abused and misappropriated concepts of Localism and Respect.
So that I'm not instantly misunderstood - I think that there is definitely a place for locals at a given spot being given a degree of priority. I think that everyone without exception deserves to be treated respectfully. If you've intimidated or threatened someone into 'respecting' you, you're confused about what respect is.
The regulations are simple: Lifeguards have no jurisdiction once the beaches are closed and it's limited even when they are open to recreational swimmers, not to mention the fact that some of the private PWC operators are off-duty lifeguards. Only State Government authorities have the authority to practically enforce the issue. That is the responsibility of Marine Safety Queensland and the Water Police. But they have been consistently NOT in the right place at the right time. The response we're getting from MSQ, "timing is everything" and "compliant behaviour". But they missed the bulk of the swell -Saturday and Sunday- again.
We were told "no paddle surfers" were in the water (at Currumbin) when they assessed, well that's because no person can surf because there are so many skis buzzing around.
There's got to be a better way?? Surely we are smart enough to deal with these local community issues ourselves? Otherwise, as humans, we're doomed by our own stupidity.
My best idea so far is to get Mr Current World Title holder -the idol in the mind's eye of these people- to speak to the boardriders clubs personally and tell them, "it's uncool". If JJF says it's uncool, then it must be uncool. This way we avoid violence, we avoid "smart-talk" -regarded as weakness- and we promote a culture of "safety-only" within the community.
Anyone else?
If I'm not mistaken the (police enforced) law in Victoria is very clear and simple. 5 knots or less 200 metres from the shoreline or any swimmers. The police routinely patrol known hot spots for PWCs. There seems to be a lack of political will in Qld to enforce the law, assuming there is a similar law up there.
It would be pretty simple to enforce. Get police to monitor PWCs from the shore, take photos of illegal actions for evidence and then have further police stake out the known boat ramps used by PWCs. As the PWCs enter and exit the known boat ramp names, addresses, boating licences could all be taken. Charges laid.
Simple or would that be too hard for the police in Qld?
6 knots within 200 metres.. how much evidence do the authorities need? Qld Police too busy beating the life out of poor handcuffed suckers in basements...??
Just reading through the comments..
Seems as though the only thing that will make change will be when some gets hit and hurt or worse. It will be a media bloodbath and become high on the political agenda..
The tow in surfing (includes step-offs) code of conduct is available here:
https://www.msq.qld.gov.au/Waterways/Tow-in-surfing-code-of-conduct
The maps at the end of the document are really interesting.
The tow- in Code was Equally endorsed by Govt/GCCC/Surfing Qld.
Surfing Qld can easily take a lead in banning these serial offenders from clubs.
The gaining of respect will flood clubs with new quality members. Win Win!
As with any Boytoy club rules. Everyone else is guilty first. That's Right your all guilty!
Every Marine incident must be reported within 24 hours..[Penalties Apply]
I know what you did last summer will come back to haunt you next Cyclone Season...Damn!
Central to code is jetski keeping a distance of 200m to Swim/Paddle/Wind/Sail.
Yes! Even when [BEACH CLOSED].Reinforced on near every page ...(No override!)
Still in doubt: Truebluebasher has a summer special...One greenhorn per jetski free take off.
Wise Up ! (Marine incident)
No.1. Man Overboard in Cyclonic surf is greatest tragedy for any skipper.
Therefore Passengers are to be fitted with PFD.(Floaties)
Should a passenger leap/dive/fall from vessel then Skipper activates a Kill Switch.
Marine Incident must be reported within 48 hrs...Whether passenger is Found or Not!
No.1 Law of the sea will forever override any quasi Jetski dinky trickery.
Man Overboard is Man Overboard failure to report it is a crime.
Just how many men overboard are lost over the day before a careless skip' loses his licence?
By far & away the most wreckless lawless thoughtless abuse of a vehicle in any country.
Winnebago JetSki plowing thru Surf Product change rooms is Terrorism.
'Marine Incident' Forms are downloaded from Qld Gov't Maritime Safety (Reply by mail).
Swellnetonians will be astonished to see Surfboard incidents are included in forms.
Re: Sadly it took many deaths before a Crackdown of Jetskis on Southport Broadwater.
No shortage of visitors blogging misuse of Jetskis in this Busiest waterway.
Tinnie Ratz are in your face therefore on every home vid ACA episode waving to police.
Idiot family tree now spawns this cowardly litter of motorcity morons hoonin' the Surf Mall.
Damn you are so logical and very well read , so if Dick Head Driver , now called DHD did not report that he lost a man overboard and had to abandon ship , with no life vest on the cameraman....that's State or Federal crime?
Well said TBB.
So that map clearly states its illegal at currumbin?
#Over the HANDLEY bars.
So Swellnet, Ben, Craig, any chance of an interview with Darren Handley about this?
Perhaps we might get a "I'm a local so I can do what I want" quote like Kirra drop in's last year.
Gary notes that the WSL have posted footage of the DHD incident on their Facebook page. Gary wonders if this is good judgemenr.
Gary did some watching in the comments and alongside the general current of discontent, someone has questioned what would happen to the WSL brand if a tour surfer was up on charges relating to a JetSki incident in a crowded lineup.
Perhaps the WSL discouraging their ‘athletes’ would affect some change?
Ban the Jet skis on the southern gold coast.
The Pro surfer/wankers continue to give themselves a bad wrap. What you think people dont hear what you are up to ?
Simple , dont buy products that they are sponsored by.
People power !!!!
I grew up the Goldie but left about 25 years ago and only rarely go back, and never to surf. Before I left I gave a then up-and-coming pro something to remember me by at the Patch one night. By all reports he got his head out of his arse and turned into a reasonable human being.
So do your local pro surfer a favour: kick his arse so his head pops back out. You'll be doing the world, and your new friend, a favour.
So you're the one snotted Dingo Kev?
I wish I could buy you a virtual beer.
He he he
Don't think it was Dingo...he said he turned into a reasonable human being...
I surfed snapper last week and the pro girls were snaking and many pros and regulars were dropping in. I use to love surf now its so crowded and disrespectful that i almost hate it .
I was out for two hours and got 1 wave. Move down to kirra and got a couple more. The lineup was full of kiwis,japanese and Brazilian punters.
As far as tow ins they are suppose too keep 60 metres from anyone in the water.
Correct me if I,m wrong but these jet ski thingys seem to be getting bigger every year. They actually look like small boats these days.Years ago they were the size of a bathtub.
Surfers United...Cool comments Swellnetonians
What's that?... turn it up a notch!
If failure to report a crime is a crime then who be our biggest crims...
Mob consists of Surf Bodies/Councils/Clubbies/Weekend Warriors.
This is a big call...Let's pretend those with most to lose, boot out their repeat offenders.
The jumpers would have to stand down pending an inquiry.
Losing backing from local surf bodies could well be a big deal.
I'm guessing WSL/Olympics would shake off a few non chasten local competitors.
WSL void GC jump offs yet WSL Pro's jump off in WSL/WSR Arenas.Shitting in own Backyard?
Mates boytoy warm'up jumps is cheating and voids GC WSL. FU act earns Ban for life...Yes?
In other words WSL surfers can't misuse WSL/WSR arenas in any manner. As it's a reserve!
Same standard across all sports & industry be it equipment tampering/drugs/cheats.
During training/Off Season all contracted... Cop the wrap/Stand Down/Clear your name.
Sponsors won't wait 2 years for hotshot Stickerman to dump his surf robot fetish. Bye Bye!
Man Overboard-Back up a gear!
Lose 1 'vested'passenger/year from Jetski + reported stop/search all seems above board.
Lose 2,3,4/hr + all their vests + No records then Skipper is arrested for People Smuggling
Pacific Solution for Jetski jumpers won't meet any resistance from fellow Swellnetonians.
Man Overboard = Man Overboard (Ridicule OZ rescuers in a Cyclone/All voted Death Penalty)
To those playing children overboard during Cyclone I'd advise you too grow gills elsewhere.
"Silver Surfer forever searches for Oasis of Sanity in this Desert of Madness men call Earth."
Summer Surf School Lesson 1 (Grom's Surf Safari) memo!... Hitchhiking is Dangerous!
Groms# (1st/Crush surfers with jetskis then leap into the eye of cyclone.) Terrorist training ?
Like all, I live in hope! (Future of Surfing is in safe hands!) C'mon! Someone else wrote that!
I wonder if things would change if the heads of the departments responsible for enforcing maritime law were notified and put on public record that they would be held vicariously liable in the event of a death or injury as the result of a ski? Insofar as they would be personally (read financially) liable if someone was hurt or worse, killed.
In particular Neil Scales (Director General Dept. Transport and Main Roads) and Warren Young. While we're at it Ministers Jackie Trad and Scott Emerson. I can't find the name of the person who heads up Maritime Safety Qld.
Locally, the man to speak to is Stephen Knowles - [email protected]
I surfed snapper last week and the pro girls were snaking and many pros and regulars were dropping in. I use to love surf now its so crowded and disrespectful that i almost hate it .
I was out for two hours and got 1 wave. Move down to kirra and got a couple more. The lineup was full of kiwis,japanese and Brazilian punters.
As far as tow ins they are suppose too keep 60 metres from anyone in the water.
I surfed snapper last week and the pro girls were snaking and many pros and regulars were dropping in. I use to love surf now its so crowded and disrespectful that i almost hate it .
I was out for two hours and got 1 wave. Move down to kirra and got a couple more. The lineup was full of kiwis,japanese and Brazilian punters.
As far as tow ins they are suppose too keep 60 metres from anyone in the water.
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What irks me also is at big wave comps/ big wave days how often the 'water safety' team on jetskis ends up needing to be rescued putting others in danger.... The first rule of being the rescuer is to not then turn around and end up being the one needing rescuing! And then the mindless mob at the WSL and the drones commenting on posts saying how much skill the 'water safety' have... Honestly it doesn't take a very large brain to ride a ski and these drongos need to be called out
Yep Nick that's an instant skol for everyone playing when we hear the commentators say: "worlds best water safety team" or similar... Downed ski is another penalty. Rules are Rules.
If it is DH then he is disrespecting the people that made his surfboard empire successful. He could not afford to be an aqua bogan if it was not for the surfer/consumer.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
Don't like his form then don't buy his overpriced surfboards.
Fuck him, the greedy pros and every other aqua bogan that can't deal with the surf unassisted.
DON'T BUY DHD and drop in every time.
You've got to question the word "Professional" being used in the same sentence as these blokes/chicks because if you are labelled a "Professional" in other professions then you are obliged, usually by law or code of conduct, to behave like one and if not, then there are consequences. The sponsors of these surfers should be reigning them in because at the end of the day they represent their brand and this sort of behaviour is (should be) damaging to the said brand. I wonder if, when they sign a contract, whether there is a "good beahviour" clause in there, if not then there should be, you would think that MIGHT make them pull their heads in, i.e. they get docked some of their sponsorship money if found to be behaving like a knob.
The sponsors can then be the police because it seems the police, or the responsible authorities, are toothless in QLD.
Totally agree with all comments, In every other sport if you are caught breaking the law, it is classed as bringing the game into disrepute, perpetrators are fined & punished, why does the same not apply with surfing, Cause some class it as a lifestyle ?
Pros are treated as tin gods that can do no wrong and then the people that hang with them seem to thik they can get away with the same. Everyday surfers shouldn't be afraid of speaking up to these primadonnas and tell them they are being absolute tools. It doesn't matter who you are you should know how to behave but they obviously have not been brought up too well. It's sad really that these dickheads are the role models for groms. I wonder what the groms actually think of this behavior, is it cool or do they think they are being flogs.
Quokka, tin gods, funny, I don’t think most groms care, from what I saw surfing the sunny coast last weekend, the amount of drop ins & snaking going on with the younger ones was crazy, A few time’s as they were dropping in without a care in the world , I was yelling to them, “ look behind you “, unbelievable!, normally I am fairly chilled in the water, it’s was giving me the shits & they weren’t dropping in on me, You are right, there is no respect shown at all cause they see their heroes ( tin gods ) doing it, Surf etiquette is getting outta hand, hence the bullshite with jet skis
Sad to hear Ads. We don't have that level of lack of respect over here in the west (yet). There is no etiqquette anymore unfortunately and you can't even bring back the good old grommie punishment of a head flush down the dunny because you'll end up in court.
Yep it’s a sad state, lol
Sad to see the role models of the sport taking, taking, taking. A bad look for pro surfing as a whole
Kind of interesting about the accepted norms in different surf zones. Could any Vicco locals imagine what would happen if someone started towing in at 6-8 Winki - skipping the queue and hogging waves? They'd be told to piss off so fast it would make your head spin. You might get the cyclones up there - but I'll take the 4/3, booties and a majority of crew who smile and comment on each others waves, any day.
There would be a line up of locals waiting for any tow clowns coming back into fishos. If they were lucky, the police would be there to arrest them and keep them safe from the mob.
localism is dead on the gold coast..rip
Always cracks me up with the localism bullspit, it’s called respect, as surfers we all travel, by the way I am a koori
The problem isn’t the fabulous pro surfers and their entourage of JetSki riders at Kirra.
It’s all you cunts getting in their way.
Your job is to watch and be impressed then go and buy boardshorts.
Sarcasm can easy be misconstrued e-y-v. But at least you won't have a target on your back - only reason the Dead Kennedy's are (ironically) still alive??
Gold vego i like it
That would be $80 board shorts that cost $1.50 to make in Chinese sweatshops.
That would be $80 board shorts that cost $1.50 to make in Chinese sweatshops.
Bungan
Winki and que in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
Tried surfing there last Saturday with patience and Ettiquite. Got one legit set wave to be blatantly burnt immediately.
The place Is an absolute Fucking joke.
I waited for the cunt who dropped in and was going to give him a burst but never saw him again. I'm like an elephant with faces and if that cunt ever shows up at my local he might as well not paddle out.
Well last Saturday at winki was always going to be a shitfight. Think about it. Zero surf for 6 weeks and the first really good day is on a weekend. Probably should have surfed somewhere else Ant.
There's a massive problem with blow ins who think it's ok to paddle around the button and think the very next wave is there's. Same for the guys who drift down from uppers and think they have priority over the guys who wait patiently at lowers. And then you have the crew trying to pick off smaller waves who sprint out when a set comes expecting to have priority. Saturday you had 20 + A grade locals who all know each other and make every wave waiting for the sets. There was a line, but you had to be massively patient to get a set. Non-regulars were never going to get a sniff. After waiting 45 minutes + plus for a wave, locals were never going to give away a set to some nobody who may not even make the drop.
Theres other waves to surf........ if you ride alternate crafts........zig while the others zag......