There should be a pro surfer dropping in tax payable.
Maybe start at a $100 bucks a drop-in?
At least then the poor working stiff's getting butt reamed by the Pros will have some money in the skyrocket to compensate them.
kaiserMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:11am
It should be an exchange programme. For everyone he drops in on, they should get a voucher where they can take any wave they want off him at Jeffrey's. That makes it even.
BTW from what I saw yesterday, he would've given out a few vouchers.
kaiserMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:13am
It astounds me how much these fuckers bite the hand that feeds
markxxxMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:26am
Snaking is one thing but snaking the bloke while he's pitted, poor f***ing form.
CraigMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:43am
Very poor form, guy was basically on his tail!
stunetMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:28am
And stalling in front of him.
udoMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:46am
Rob Bain Oneill Aust whats with your team rider ...dirty fucking drop in !
Its time these pros got bitch slapped for there bad behavior.
floydMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:37am
Long overdue
seaman-stainesMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:50am
Nobody has any respect in the waves at Coolangatta, Imagine Jordy doing that to a local at pipe. I honestly doubt there is anywhere in the world it is tolerated so much. People literally get off a plane and paddle out at Snapper and start hassling, not just pros mind you, full blown kooks do it as well.
floydMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 11:54am
Good call staines; would happen in the islands but here a lot of talk but nothing else
wellymonTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 4:25am
S-S
Imagine him doing that in INZED bro, fuck me, he would of been blowin away with the smoke of ganga coming off the land in an offshore direction, he would' ntve been able to seeeeeee,
Whetu would've smoked a big laid back, faded bottom turn, in front, ol Jordy . Thinking to himself at the time, (Pokokohua)
Parp....
Ol Whetu would've been pretty stoked then eh!!!!!
Paddling out proud as punch....
seaman-stainesTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 8:22pm
All I could picture after reading that was Taranaki.
kaiserMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:49am
Funny thing is that for the couple hours I was out there yesterday, it was surprisingly orderly, except the main offenders which were the pros by far.
They have a good method. If they catch a wave without snaking, they paddle back out through the lineup. If they burn someone, they make a hasty exit down the line so nobody can give them a gobfull, then walk around and pop up again, hopefully by which time everyone has calmed down or the lineup has changed around and nobody who is left actually saw the indiscretion.
udoMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:51am
Kaiser ,name the pros .
seaman-stainesMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:53am
Pro surfers are a protected species here, much like Great Whites.
kaiserMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:59am
Yesterday it was mainly Jordy that I saw. There were some brazilians but I don't know their names well enough to pick them apart. Didn't see medina.
Rabbits68Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 12:08pm
Some protest banners need to be made for the upcoming Quicky Pro, along the lines of.....
"PRO SURFERS THAT DROP IN - FUCK OFF PLEASE"
floydMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 12:21pm
Nah,
FUCK OFF PRO SURFING/ERS
ACB__Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 12:25pm
Nah,
FUCK OFF.
brutusMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 12:42pm
ah is that just to Pro surfers...or all surfers...and the message is from all the locals who were born and bred in DBah.Snapper, Rainbow,Greenmount or Kirra and OK Coolongatta...and I guess if you were born and brought up in any of the preceding spots......yeah lets get the message out.....and all the others can go home to their own beaches...bummer if you were born inland!
brutusMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 12:36pm
C'mon guys...so a Pro or 2 drops in at Artificial point (man made from D/bah to Kirra)....on who?
Can anyone tell me how a Pro distinguishes from a local to a blow in to a.....???
I think all you energy should be put into stopping the Pro....so you can all have a couple of waves in peace.....when there are only locals out.......which is......and how many are locals or visiting surfers when you guys surf the Supa dupa bank??
Maybe the Pros read FR76 s post about kooks....and they now think that all lesser surfers are kooks and therefore have little or no rights in the surf??
Or ya could just let them surf....practice test new bds and they'll be gone in a couple of weeks..leaving a lot of $'s for the local community....
Rabbits68Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 12:44pm
Spoken from the heart of a board builder.....locals or visitors who cares, blatant drop ins are simply fucked.....assume your taking the piss....
memlasurfMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 4:38pm
Think you are way off line here Brutus. I know where you are coming from and you know a lot of these guys, but if those who are paid to surf are setting the standard what does that say for everybody else Might is Right or the Rich get Richer the Poor get the Picture? The one of Jordy was totally unnecessary, the guy doesn't come across as a brain surgeon but he is not that stupid or naive. No problem trying to get waves the correct way but pros dropping in on average surfers (me). Nup. Dog act no two ways maybe no one gives a stuff on the Goldie no excuse though.
bum_acidMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 12:40pm
I'm pretty sure the Jordy drop-in was pre-arranged, from what I saw on Instagram.
shot of Jordy inside the barrel from deep behind him.
bum_acidMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 12:47pm
actually it's possible the guy got burned but turned out the footage he got was worth it.
I dunno.
no offense to you blokes, but if you've ever been out at Kirra like this you'd realise most people are just tea-bagging, too tired to fight the sweep in order to make the heavy drop.
the amount of unridden waves that go through is amazing, nobody should be whingeing about not getting waves at Kirra.
CraigMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 12:48pm
Yep, I take my comments back, could have been pre-arranged..
Look back at Kirra..... Can't believe these waves#GoldCoast #Australia @blessed_collector Fun wave
curly2alexMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 8:35pm
Makes it hard to yell "OI" with a go pro in your gob I guess!!!
zenagainMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:00pm
Well there you go. My apologies to Jordy.
bum_acidMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:01pm
No craig, it's not certain he didn't just burn him. Like I said, it's also possible the guy was just stoked he got burnt by Jordy and got a sweet clip
CraigMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:02pm
True.
bum_acidMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:05pm
it's unclear from his instagram comments that's all.
a really bad burn if it wasn't set-up
udoMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:30pm
Name the pros dropping in : Kaiser said yesterday it was mainly Jordy I saw do it.....
udoMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:32pm
The photog blessed collector said of the pic , this is me and jordy playing cat and mouse.
kaiserMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:34pm
The ones I saw of Jordy definitely weren't staged
goofyfootMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:38pm
Brutus what a load of shit.. So if jordy or any other pro was dropping in on you at bells you'd just shrug it off and not worry about it because " there testing new boards and and they'll be gone in a couple of weeks" ???
udoMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:45pm
A couple of pros decide to start dropping in at PC....I would love to see that.
goofyfootMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:41pm
Pros need to remember that the average punter who loves surfing, doesn't need Pro Surfing to exist for them to go surfing. The pros need the average punter to support and show interest in the tour to keep the whole thing going. They need us a lot more than we need them
brutusMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 1:52pm
goofy.....have had it happen...does not bother me......as they are only here for a few weeks ....and usually they bring better surfing and there is an exchange of ideas/designs etc......but Goofy there are always those like yourself who choose to whinge , grizzle and just be negative about a couple of weeks of surfing with the best surfers in the world...
I think you should really try and stop considering yourself as an average punter.........as those average punters just love those pro's..
quokkaTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:50am
You're perpetuating this shit behaviour. I realise it's your gravy train but c'mon how do you seriously justify it?
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 8:02am
how am I to blame....for pros dropping in......everybody gets their dropins at the supa bank.....everyone jumped on Jordy's case and he was dropping in on a guy that was filming him....
........and my gravy train, nothing could be further from the truth....I make NO $'s from pros........
If ya want to talk shit behavior....do something about the Skis in the break near the surfers...
DazzmcdazzMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 2:13pm
Don't worry about the drop ins! What about the pricks on the skis that catch what waves they want then hail their mates and get dropped back up the point while the rest of us battle the current for hours!!!
mick-freeMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 2:22pm
No one drops in on Jordy at Jeffreys Bay except this crazy mad gorilla on a knee boarder who burns everybody.
Having surfed and talked to Jordy, gotta say he's pretty polite in the lineup and doesn't snake and takes his turn. Certainly thats been my experience, so would be a surprise if he was blatant.
Also I'm not picky but apart from two waves if thats the best highlights from the 3 days of action it's not that amazing. Anyway thats my twenty cents.
seaman-stainesMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 2:55pm
I saw more tubes than in that clip driving around the bend at Kirra on Sunday arvo. Someone must be going to drop a big clip soon, it was pumping.
goofyfootMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 2:24pm
Brutus I love watching the pros surf. Who doesn't? But just because they rip doesn't give them the right to burn surfers who are already on the wave!! And yes I'm an average punter, just not one who thinks its ok to have a smoking wave ruined by some cunt who surfs ALOT better than myself.
If I'm one of those guys who whinges grizzles and is negative well I guess that makes you one of those guys who get down on there knees and gobbles up every last drop of there pro-cream just because they've got stickers on there boards! Have a good day
brutusMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 2:39pm
goofy...now now calm down....at Bells this has been going on for about 50 years......and we have Winki next door to accommodate all the local surfers...when Bells is good and pros are training and getting their bds sorted....
From what I have seen and experienced down here...the problem is Pros taking off deeper and taking all the set waves...not a lot of blatant dropins...but a whole lot of snaking going on.......
So if you are a punter....are you a local also....so some might think you have more rights than other blowin punters??
And no can't get down on my knees anymore...too old and can't bend that far.....but sounds like you could be jealous...have a really really nice day!
goofyfootMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 3:25pm
Cheers mate! :)
Rabbits68Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 2:51pm
Yeah it's pretty obvious where some people's bias lay. Some of these people who make money out of pro surfing can't see the forest for the trees. Sad really.....
brutusMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 4:19pm
yeah I am biased..as I grew up surfing when comps were a social event......hmmm so who is making money out of Pro Surfing and why is it sad??
Rabbits68Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 4:44pm
From what I understand you are & your attitude seems very blinded. It's sad because you think it's ok that pros (not all pros) can come into a surf community for a few weeks, drop in at will (because their testing equipment etc) have jet skis buzzing around the lineups (as the various clips have shown from last year & this year), show no respect in the water to these communities then leave & do the same at the next location. But it's ok because apparently "they bring dollars into these areas & there only there for few weeks". We are talking about current times, not the past when the surf comps you attended were social events. That said what are surf comps now Brutus?? In regards to people making money out of pro surfing & not giving a shit about the fall out, this is a prime example......
seaman-stainesMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 3:03pm
My experience tells me that as a general rule most of the pros are pretty good to surf with, well aware of the rules (there are always exceptions, as with all of us), it's actually the fringe pros, kids and general hangeroners that really get annoying.
Who isn't a little starstruck when Slater has a chat to ya between sets?
And on Medina, I have never seen him hassling or dropping in, he seems pretty mellow really, I did the walk around yesterday behind him and he happily posed for photo after photo as he tried to make his way back up to Snapper, kind of want to not like him but he seems alright lol.
Rabbits68Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 3:07pm
Sounds like a great example for the rest that choose not to be respectful. Power to him....
bum_acidMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:24pm
Medina burns with impunity, did it to my mate right in front of me last year. I ended up yelling at him
seaman-stainesMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 3:06pm
And I might add without wanting to sound Racist/Xenophobic etc that lately the most annoying are the sponsored Japanese surfers out there, I love Japanese people generally but get some stickers on their board and you'll be rolling out the welcome mat for our Brazillian friends.
quokkaTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:55am
No joke, I experienced Jap pros in the Maldives back in 2002 and even back then their attitude stank and they were like flies to shit, taking anything that moved and with a boatload of them that was pretty much everything. ALL greedy pricks can go fuck themselves full stop.
goofyfootMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 6:43pm
Dean Morrison has just put a pic of him at Kirra on his instagram page. He also wrote a pretty intense comment on it about being a local there with some pretty colourful language. If I knew how to put it up on here I would..
lostdoggyMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 7:42pm
Didn't he relocate to Hawaii? Maybe their localism, sob-story, tough times, tough talk bullshit has been rubbing off on him.
Not saying it should be a free for all, but I don't see why it should be any different to other lineups.
Like saying to him when he was a pro and travelling the world, surely taking more waves in lineups than he had paid his dues for. How about fuck you 'Dingo'?
udoMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 7:11pm
Dean Wearne : 100% agree with your comment.
BlowinMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 7:43pm
I reckon you should all get out and let Freddy P practice. Selfish pricks.
dellabeachMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 8:35pm
Do pros think they deserve more than the next guy?
Let Mr. Morrison state his case. http://www.mysurf.tv/
Rabbits68Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 8:50pm
Excuse my ignorance but was that Dean Morrison burning that dude? If so that was so fucked!! Hey Brutus, defend that. Oh that's right sorry I forgot, he's only here for this swell & will be chasing the next one somewhere else so it's ok & lets not forget Mr Morrison is spending his hard earned whilst his there too, not to mention the lucky bloke that was already slotted, what a lovely view for him!! It's iust a Win win for everyone!! Yay!!
BlowinMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 8:53pm
I saw Mr Morrison get burned on a half dozen smokers last time I was at Deserts. No ones immune.
But that doesn't make it right.
Rabbits68Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:00pm
Well at least what goes around comes around hopefully. I'd suggest he's got lots to come.....
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 8:20am
Rabbito..do you even surf or do you just sit around and take pot shots at people....and seem to have installed yourself as the sheriff and chief whinger...
all this BS about drop ins ...you have no balls to do anything about Skis just whinge and whine and judge other people by your lofty standards which are based on.....your own personal crap....
Dropins have been happening since surfing began......the GC/Supabank....is one of the most crowded waves on the planet...so who gets the waves in your opinion...all line up and get a numbered ticket??
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 11:50am
Haha!! Chief whinger!! Classic. Ofcourse I don't surf, thought that was obvious :-) Just calling you out but clearly you want to have your say without having to back up your generalizations. You are Da man Brutus....
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:40pm
so ya called me out for generalizing....and what can't I back up Rabido...?
simbaMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 8:51pm
Dingo the dog,fuk what aburn,cunt
southeyMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:21pm
The only thing I have to ad to this part , is that I'm pretty sure that guy was not going to make that first long section .
Personally I usually give the benefit of doubt , but if anyone knows if someone was going to make a section out there you would think dingo would . Again it seems like drop ins are the done thing at this place , winki , and anywhere that is crowded in Aust . Unfortunately for the pro's they aren't " unidentified " burns so and so . I don't see anyone in here hating on TC .....
Rabbits68Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 11:16pm
Cmon Southey, the bloke was fully slotted & flying through that same section that Fukwit had time drop into, turn then burn. It is what it is........fucking terrible...
southeyTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:47am
I wasn't condoning it . I just noted that Ol mate was probably a bit slow into it . That , and the bigger board he was riding suggested to me that he wasn't going to be skating his way through those two long sections as quick as dingo ....... I thought I'd try and provide some sort of positive out of this shit fight .... I like to see people make fast long sectioning tubes . Even better when they are midgets who make small swells look respectable . ( ie is that for dorrington in WOTD , kinda makes it look heavy )
not a local anywhereMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 8:40pm
wait until the surf is over
and we're both a little older
the unknown surfer
breakfast where the surf report is read
internet surfers fed
unborn living, living dead
out of control crowds kill surfing dead
and its all over
for the unknown surfer
its all over
the surf is over
southeyMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 8:45pm
Two seperate vents in different media Rhys !!!
I'm tipping that you've been on the receiving end of Dingo's froth in your own state .
And by the sounds of I reckon it won't happen again on your turf ?!
I reckon let the rats have the tip .
udoMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:05pm
Kerby Brown,Trent Munro lots of others seem to agree with Dingos comment ?
very disapointing........
lostdoggyMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:08pm
Saddest (but least surprising) was Koby Abberton.
kobyabberton
"I read all these quotes and laugh. If you don't take sets when u want at your local your a fukn kook. I have watched @dingomorrison travel the world and respect the locals in every country I have seen him wait an hour for a wave in Hawaii. Dingo is a good guy and respects all locals. I would drop in on you kooks and then bash u. In Hawaii and all over the world all surfers respect the locals. It's simple I watch locals paddle around me but it's there home break and I respect it. Share and share but take the waves you want at your local. I respect the rules we all should."
HaydosMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 11:48pm
Bit hypocritical coming from that dickhead of all people hahah. I seem to recall a certain break that him and his mates bullied the previous locals away from
Rabbits68Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:09pm
Any chance of posting a link to these comments for those of us not tech savy? Cheers
lostdoggyMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:11pm
Another from Koby
kobyabberton
Fuk yeah @dingomorrison and I got u and every other bra boy does too!!!!
southeyMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:10pm
Personally I think the skis ' no matter who's operating them need to go .
Then atleast it's man on man .
And instead of all this protest shit , and take a video shit .
Just setup a bunch of kids on the hill , with a shitload of lemons and a well made orange gun ........ Ttttttthhhhhhhhhoooooooooooommmmmmmmmpppppppppppp . !
wallyMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:11pm
These are the same kids who go down the local public park and bully some passerby off the swings because they own them, they reckon.
lostdoggyMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:14pm
Someone on his comments suggested a hashtag
#dropinondingo :)
Another thanked him for the ride on the ski this morning.
udoMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:25pm
Hoping that Steph slaps your face tomorrow refuge boy.
mick-freeMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:40pm
I think Craig is more tech savvy but here's the gram in full.
dingomorrison Love surfing this place more than anything!! I grew up right there,went to primary school right there, when times were tough we had to stay at the refuge right there, so that's why I get territorial right there.. To all those people that think it's a free for all or if ya just moved here and think your a local FUCK YOU takes along time to pay ya dues and earn ya spot in a line up!!!! Photo @dmunnphotography
The video footage is getting better.
BlowinMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:01pm
Did anyone get amongst it and get some good ones ?
Surely someone came in with a smile on their face.
Love surfing this place more than anything!! I grew up right there,went to primary school right there, when times were tough we had to stay at the refuge right there, so that's why I get territorial right there.. To all those people that think it's a free for all or if ya just moved here and think your a local FUCK YOU takes along time to pay ya dues and earn ya spot in a line up!!!! Photo @dmunnphotography
Rabbits68Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:23pm
Dean Morrison, Koby Aberton & friends you are all legend in your own soiled undies. Take what is rightfully yours, just as nature intended. I personally hope you all come to a grim, slow, demeaning end. Stay at your locals, where your rights are indesputeable, cause your not welcome anywhere else on this beautiful planet. Arrogant fuckwits beyond belief.
kellyslaterMonday, 23 Feb 2015 at 11:14pm
Fucker must have deleted all the comments, I don't see any anti dingo ones at all. These fags get a freeride, coin and more than their fair share of waves, fuck em.
soggydogTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 2:01am
Really no nobody should take Koby Abberton or what he says seriously. Giving credence to such an unintelligent thug makes him and his band of thugs think that they matter, they don't . Probably the best course of action would be to petition sponsors to drop such leaches then they would have to get real jobs........that'd fuck'em.
morrisTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 7:14am
Fuck what planet am I on again , Koby respecting locals, not from what I have seen in person.
Soggy koby doesn't have a sponsor and yes he is a thug but I think there is half a brain in there as he has learnt to play the bogans in the surfing world like a violin they think he's cool, but the media shy away from him a bit now so making stupid comments on social media is his platform now days, any publicity is good publicity, actually for this baboon the worse the publicity the better he likes it.
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 8:30am
ah locals....so who is and why do they have more rights than others??
sounds like a lot of whinging locals on these forums or are they blowins from...inland??
Dropins have always been part of surfing ...no mention how bad Occy/Parko/Mick etc and how many waves they catch..??
lostdoggyTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 8:54am
I think there has been in the past.
But they didn't put any stirring comments up recently.
If this swell held off until next week with the contest on and the masses were confined to greenmount/kirra or snapper/greenmount then the ensuing dropins would have been so much worse.
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 10:30am
Just because drop ins have been happening for a long time it has never made it it right or healthy or enjoyable or advanced the sport. It's really the only unwritten law (now written in some places) that surfing has to abide by. Throw that out the door & we'll just end up with way more chaos in the lineups & more people with your same poor attitude.....
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 9:16am
and ain't that the truth Lostdoggy!!
surfer1Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 9:27am
Hopefully dingo or more so jordy suffers a bad injury in the next couple days. Don't care what you guys think of this comment.
donweatherTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 9:29am
And this just all goes to reinforce my decision to not surf the points in SE QLD anymore. There's just way too much aggression both in and out of the water. Every feckwit believes he's owed something in life rather than earning it from respecting others and treating everyone as equal!!!
50youngTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 9:46am
Totally agree Don
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 9:34am
yeah surfer1....and what kind of bad injury are you hoping for...broken neck or back....hoping they become a paraplegic.......yeah that's the way surfer1..lets get real//anyone dropping in ........maybe the death sentence ????
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 9:42am
Hey Brutus, Kobys coming to your local, he's going to drop in on you then he's hoing to bash you (his words). But hey that's cool, your ok with that. Sticking up for these thugs says loads about you....
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 11:11am
OK rabids....I don't have any problems with Koby...he is not going to come and drop in on me and bash me......all in your delusional mind......trying to justify your existence as whinger!
OK surfing.....what are the rules and who enforces them and how??
HaydosTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 11:38am
Rabbits was just quoting what Koby said on Dingos post. Basically if a non-local is surfing somewhere he happens to consider his local, he'll drop in on and bash them
memlasurfTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 11:38am
Rabbit he was up for charges for killing someone. Be careful.
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:21pm
Yep agreed Melma. People that seriously intimidate others for no reason other than they think it's ok just gets my goat. See plenty of it in my line of work........
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:25pm
koby did not kill anyone...as for intimidation...surfing is anarchy......who enforces the rules and how??
Can you guys suggest an alternative to what we have now??
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:32pm
I hope this doesn't sound like a whinge, the solution is called "respect". It's hard to imagine isn't it??
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:36pm
OK..now how do you propose to bring respect to all in the water...???
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:44pm
Brutus the majority of the people who have commented on this thread, the whinging masses as you referred to them as, have basically agreed that respecting others in the lineup, following that basic principle of not dropping in is the go. I agree in a busy lineup there will always be issues but to go with the belief that it's each man for himself isn't going to help IMO.
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:49pm
so theres 500 out at supa bank.......a guy that you know can't make a perfect wave....comes straight to him...and you turn around and go please its your turn...have a crack ol boy....
everybody is equal,everybody has the same rights so....you get in line and wait your turn??
Is this what you are trying to explain?
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:04pm
Specifically out the superbank I agree with premise that if 500 hundred people are on it & ol mate is not going to make a section (which is sometimes going to be debatable given some of the long deep tube rides I've seen on vid) then that's fine & makes complete sense. But don't try to tell me that's your stance on the issue. Yours seems to be that because drop ins happen that it's just the way of surfing. I've been surfing for 35yrs & learnt from a very young age that dropping in was the cardinal sin of surfing. Have I missed something or was I told a lie all those years ago??
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:26pm
yeah rabs...it was like that......and when ya did drop in ya got bashed or run out of the water ...or just dropped in on.
Today there is so little respect , because of the ever increasing numbers and old blokes are still surfing so there is anarchy.....not much we can do about it........as no more Biff.......ya get charged by the police ,so we now live in era of little respect.....little etiquette....unless ya don't surf in crowds.....
So yeah its just part of surfing now.......you should see lower trestles...that could be the worst ever...as even beginners call you off waves there...!!
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:33pm
It hasn't got to the state of affairs as you see it where I mainly surf in WA. So I disagree with your generalization that it's everehere. Well agree to disagree. Thanks for your points of view....
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:43pm
how about North point...mainbreak,3 bears.....crowded surf........think yourself lucky if you still have old school rules....
bit like when we tow...wait for a 30-40knts crossshore,rain,hail 5 degrees 20' swell...not many people!!
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:52pm
Actually your right Brutus, it does depend on how many surfers with "global respect" are in the area at the time of these good swell events...
HaydosTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:23pm
Well if a wave comes straight to him and he's on the inside of you its his wave isn't it? I reckon until you see him fall or pull out, the wave is still his. Shouldn't matter if you happen to be a local or not.
memlasurfTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:34pm
Nope that is one of the things i love about surfing, it isn't a yacht club. There are very few rules not real hard to try and abide by them and it would be nice if the guys at the top took a smidgen of responsibility not to be an arsehole.
lostdoggyTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:43pm
Parko's a leader. He drops in on the Portuguese in Portugal doesn't he?
surfer1Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 9:52am
You said it not me, maybe not that extreme but if it happens it is what it is (except paraplegic)
wingnut2443Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 9:50am
Freeride made the comment early / above re: "... biting the hand that feeds them ..."
Surely the WSL can see this? Plenty of video evidence to use to penalise the offending surfers? $ fine, or WCT points? Either way, IF the WSL wants to make their product more 'professional' it's time they took the lead with this issue ...
Surely the 'brands' and 'companies' that sponsor these surfers can see this behaviour is damaging to their brands? Isn't it time, these companies withdrew their sponsorship for the offending professional surfers? Or, again, issued fines, significant fines and perhaps made their sponsored surfers do some community service
In the meantime, we, the average surfer / weekend warrior can simply stop buying products from companies who sponsor the offending professional surfers.
NOTE: Yes, Brutus agreed, drop in's have always been a part of the 'sport'. However, with increasing crowds and thus increased risks, having the professional ranks so blatantly doing the wrong thing only makes it seem like it is OK for the average punter. This fuels the drop in culture and increases the risks further ... surely it's time for a change?
As for jet ski in the lineup ... where the fuck are the Police / Maritime? The maritime laws and rules exist for a reason. Again, isn't it time they used them and issued some fines? It will be too late when someone is run over and killed!
bum_acidTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 10:13am
fine them WCT points?
you're havin a larf.
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 10:34am
Agreed Wingy. Made a similar point earlier about people involved in pro surfing making money but not giving a shit about the end result. Daft....
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 11:16am
have an easy solution.....1 week before a Comp......Pros have all the rights to train and surf at the competition site...and all the rest of the surfers have 2nd priority!
As far as damaging the brands....ah Global brands sell globally and one would think that any local surf spot would represent less than .0001% of sales .....
Its only social media and videos that are firing up the moronic masses....with knee jerk reactions and emotional wiffle waffle!!
He's a brazzo so nobody cares. ;)
Must've snaked those jet skis one too many times. Bastard.
udoTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 11:57am
A comment from Ian Cairns on there .
southeyTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 4:31pm
didn't see Kangas comment udo .
although i did see Hards baiting in classic troll fashion . so amazingly this will be the first time that he and Koby have seen eye to eye . so there's one bonus for the twitterverse .
WharfjunkieTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 11:59am
Great waves but what a clusterfcuk that place is. Whatever happened too a bit of courtesy and good vibes not happening on any populated stretch of coast.
It's understandable that people who live there, work there and don't get to travel much get frustrated by overcrowding when they probably miss plenty of good days due to work commitments.
But those who travel the world surfing for a living playing the local card is so fcuking hypocritical especially the ones who have surfed the best days of waiting periods at likes of Pipe.
Don't want to surf with fcukwits live in remote areas away from easy travelling distance of overpopulated cesspools like the Goldy, Sydney, Melbourne or Perth also don't surf on weekends when carloads of fcukwits show up because of a good forecast and throw etiquette out the window.
goofyfootTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:28pm
Dingo is copping an absolute roasting on that mysurf clip!!
Better jump on there and defend him Brutus!
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:33pm
ahhh don't ya love that great Australian sport..tall poppy syndrome!!!
We have now surpassed the whinging pommies...with the whining Aussie tall poppy syndrome club.......be proud guys!!
goofyfootTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:38pm
Isn't tall poppy syndrome giving someone shit when they do something good??
Tell me what part of that dog act was good!
lostdoggyTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:40pm
The barrel he got.
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:43pm
ah the barrel he got..he gets paid to go surfing, has a lot of mates that are at the top of the surfing heap., surfs so many different big waves all around the planet...
Dingo is actually a very good ambassador for Australian surfing.........
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:11pm
At least you've finally made me laugh. Thanks Brutus. It was getting a bit heavy there for a while....
morrisTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:15pm
brutus wrote:
Dingo is actually a very good ambassador for Australian surfing.........
Such as yourself in the 70's;-))
brutusTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:31pm
ah rabs and M.....yeah it all was getting a bit heavy...haha.....
Dingo actually can go surfing anywhere in Hawaii and has the respect of the locals....and most other countries I know of......but if you only just live in your own backyard ,you might not understand what it is to have Global respect...of course unless you are an Aussie in Australia........
I can't even remember the 70's!
mk1Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:39pm
Quick poll here and it seems to be the guys who don't surf it, looking in, that are more upset about the drop in situation. Extrapolating from my sample size of 1 (me) those that surf it accept that it is what it is. Some days good, some days bad but some magic waves in amongst the mayhem that keeps you going back. Drop-ins happen out there and no one is immune and no one who surfs it regularly can honestly say that they haven't dropped in on someone at some point either.
In summary - chill, its OK.
donweatherTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:58pm
Accidentally dropping in and then apologising to the person you dropped in on (both in the water and on social media) versus "feck you I'm a local feck off I am owed this wave" are two very different things.
I think you'll find it's the attitude of the offending drop in people that the masses are objecting to here, not so much the physical drop in itself!!!
Rabbits68Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:15pm
Fair point mk1 but I agree with Dons summary....
mk1Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:25pm
Don, with all respect every snapper-kirra video has a metric tonne of comments about how "things shouldn't be like that and thank god I don't have to surf it"
I've been faded by some of the best out there, as well as some of the worst. And truth be told I've done it from time to time on a bad day myself. The one rule that is usually followed is - if the guy is in a makeable tube, no drop ins, just sit back and watch. The week proceeding the quikky pro though - hell anything is possible. As for dingo, I am not going to delve into it but it sounds like one of the worserer drop ins, but that happens at this time of year, hopefully the other guy still managed to get some good ones.
donweatherTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:51pm
Let me ask you this.....if one of these so called pros rocked up at Indo would they let every Indo local get every set wave and let the local drop in on them?
Or even more to the point, if one of these so called pros rocked up at PNG (or some other very remote location with very few experienced local surfers in the water) would they let every PNG local get every set wave and let the local drop in on them?
I think not!!!
I recently returned from a reasonably remote surfari last year where there was only a handful of boats operating. 99% of the surfers in the water (including locals) abided by the rule, if you've just got a wave, then you're at the end of the queue, irrespective of your seated position in the line up. This worked amazing well and was well respected by all people in the water (locals included). The countries of origin of people in the water ranged from Aussies, Saffas, Frenchies and Indo locals who live and work on location. This rule all fell to pieces the day a boat load of Japanese Hawaiians rocked up. One guy in particular caught each set wave and continued to paddle straight back up the point and sit the deepest on the inside every time and get the next wave. That was until he did it to me too many times and I yelled at him "feck off cvnt". I think he got the message after that.
It's not hard to respect every one in the water and share the waves. No one owns anything in the water, and no one is certainly "owed" any wave based on their heritage/status in the line up.
Treat everyone in the line up like they're your brother/sister/mates etc and the ocean/surf will become a much much more pleasant place.
kaiserTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:47pm
It's very simple. If someone is actually on a wave, don't get on it. If they fall off, and you're in the right spot... knock yourself out. You cannot pre-emptively take a wave as there will always be a chance they could have made it if you just stayed the fuck away, no matter how kooky they seem.
toneboneTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 1:50pm
Thats my son in the vid from 16 sec to 26 sec, (its all the same wave, put the last edit first and you've got the right sequence). He surfed for 5 hrs that day and certainly got some good ones without ski help. He's a born local and doesn't drop in, snake or even hassle.
But he was fuming after that late Kirra session with the blatant burning going on by more that a few 'pro's' even some who he knows... drop ins and ski snaking....
shaunTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 2:04pm
A Dingo stole my wavey.
udoTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 2:10pm
Shit was just about to write that for the classic surfers quotes on behalf of Delman Ferreira the poor fucker who got burnt.
zenagainTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 2:59pm
Hah ha ha ha!! Gold!
CraigTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 3:17pm
Haha, classic!
wellymonTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 6:32pm
Awesome Shauno;)
BlowinTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 3:15pm
Is Delman Ferreira an Aussie ?
zenagainTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 3:22pm
Does it matter?
seaman-stainesTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 4:26pm
I don't know about this Dean Morrison business, Kirra has always been this way, it's not a new thing, it's not just him, I think his comment justifying it was in poor judgement though, would have been better off with a "couldn't let that go to waste" or something along those lines.
I have lived here for nearly 10 years, mind my own business, occasionally get burnt, never had a dispute and get plenty of waves. I am by no means a local but certainly don't get as savaged as when I was fresh off the boat. I respect the locals, I understand that I am probably not going to get the wave of the year if the likes of Dingo etc are around, I have no problem with this.
I have watched this clip a couple of times and I think that guy was no chance to make it, he didn't have the drive to get through those following sections.
seaman-stainesTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 4:39pm
I guess what I am trying to say is Coolangatta would probably benefit from some sort of local enforcement, if you do your time, wait your turn, show a bit of respect then it might be a happier experience for all. Unless you surf there a lot you wouldn't understand it.
WharfjunkieTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 5:03pm
A lot of areas could do with this. Sometimes it doesn't need to be a matter of the locals get all the waves but more a case of a dickhead drop's in, snake and hassle pretty much chooses to behave badly they receive a bit of pressure from the locals to pull their head in. It will only work if the locals self regulate though and don't be bloody hypocrite's. Highly unlikely and sometimes poor local attitudes has encouraged shit behaviour in the surf.
ambTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 5:41pm
Yeah i'm with you Seaman, if he had just been a bit more humble/apologetic about it i could handle it but now i just think he's a dick. When i was i Bali last year my son wanted to see the Mad Huey contest at Keramas, i saw that Dingo was in it and said yeah be good to watch. Dingo was great to the kids photos autographs ect and i thought what a nice guy. If this had happened before hand i wouldn't of bothered going, thus the 20 odd people i dragged along wouldn't of gone and spent money at the Kommune Resort ect,ect.
rees0Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 6:25pm
Has the groyne extension made any difference? Good solution to the overcrowding problem.
Plenty of long stretches of beach in se qld that could benefit from a little man made intervention.
freeride76Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 8:55pm
This is just Calhouns rats in a cage writ large.
Too many rats not enough cheese and we see the behavioural sink. Aggression in Gotham City.
Pros aren't Einstein, they should probably stay away from social media. Better to keep your mouth shut and have everyone think you are a dickhead than open it and prove it beyond doubt.
dellabeachTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 9:04pm
I think there may finally be a solution to the problem of too many surfers-not enough waves and the hand of friendship is extended to SUPs as a bonus.....win-win-win!
HaydosTuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 9:07pm
Stab Mag has a nice interview up on their website with Dingo
Comments
Sorry, missed that. Jordy and....?
There should be a pro surfer dropping in tax payable.
Maybe start at a $100 bucks a drop-in?
At least then the poor working stiff's getting butt reamed by the Pros will have some money in the skyrocket to compensate them.
It should be an exchange programme. For everyone he drops in on, they should get a voucher where they can take any wave they want off him at Jeffrey's. That makes it even.
BTW from what I saw yesterday, he would've given out a few vouchers.
It astounds me how much these fuckers bite the hand that feeds
Snaking is one thing but snaking the bloke while he's pitted, poor f***ing form.
Very poor form, guy was basically on his tail!
And stalling in front of him.
Rob Bain Oneill Aust whats with your team rider ...dirty fucking drop in !
Its time these pros got bitch slapped for there bad behavior.
Long overdue
Nobody has any respect in the waves at Coolangatta, Imagine Jordy doing that to a local at pipe. I honestly doubt there is anywhere in the world it is tolerated so much. People literally get off a plane and paddle out at Snapper and start hassling, not just pros mind you, full blown kooks do it as well.
Good call staines; would happen in the islands but here a lot of talk but nothing else
S-S
Imagine him doing that in INZED bro, fuck me, he would of been blowin away with the smoke of ganga coming off the land in an offshore direction, he would' ntve been able to seeeeeee,
Whetu would've smoked a big laid back, faded bottom turn, in front, ol Jordy . Thinking to himself at the time, (Pokokohua)
Parp....
Ol Whetu would've been pretty stoked then eh!!!!!
Paddling out proud as punch....
All I could picture after reading that was Taranaki.
Funny thing is that for the couple hours I was out there yesterday, it was surprisingly orderly, except the main offenders which were the pros by far.
They have a good method. If they catch a wave without snaking, they paddle back out through the lineup. If they burn someone, they make a hasty exit down the line so nobody can give them a gobfull, then walk around and pop up again, hopefully by which time everyone has calmed down or the lineup has changed around and nobody who is left actually saw the indiscretion.
Kaiser ,name the pros .
Pro surfers are a protected species here, much like Great Whites.
Yesterday it was mainly Jordy that I saw. There were some brazilians but I don't know their names well enough to pick them apart. Didn't see medina.
Some protest banners need to be made for the upcoming Quicky Pro, along the lines of.....
"PRO SURFERS THAT DROP IN - FUCK OFF PLEASE"
Nah,
FUCK OFF PRO SURFING/ERS
Nah,
FUCK OFF.
ah is that just to Pro surfers...or all surfers...and the message is from all the locals who were born and bred in DBah.Snapper, Rainbow,Greenmount or Kirra and OK Coolongatta...and I guess if you were born and brought up in any of the preceding spots......yeah lets get the message out.....and all the others can go home to their own beaches...bummer if you were born inland!
C'mon guys...so a Pro or 2 drops in at Artificial point (man made from D/bah to Kirra)....on who?
Can anyone tell me how a Pro distinguishes from a local to a blow in to a.....???
I think all you energy should be put into stopping the Pro....so you can all have a couple of waves in peace.....when there are only locals out.......which is......and how many are locals or visiting surfers when you guys surf the Supa dupa bank??
Maybe the Pros read FR76 s post about kooks....and they now think that all lesser surfers are kooks and therefore have little or no rights in the surf??
Or ya could just let them surf....practice test new bds and they'll be gone in a couple of weeks..leaving a lot of $'s for the local community....
Spoken from the heart of a board builder.....locals or visitors who cares, blatant drop ins are simply fucked.....assume your taking the piss....
Think you are way off line here Brutus. I know where you are coming from and you know a lot of these guys, but if those who are paid to surf are setting the standard what does that say for everybody else Might is Right or the Rich get Richer the Poor get the Picture? The one of Jordy was totally unnecessary, the guy doesn't come across as a brain surgeon but he is not that stupid or naive. No problem trying to get waves the correct way but pros dropping in on average surfers (me). Nup. Dog act no two ways maybe no one gives a stuff on the Goldie no excuse though.
I'm pretty sure the Jordy drop-in was pre-arranged, from what I saw on Instagram.
shot of Jordy inside the barrel from deep behind him.
actually it's possible the guy got burned but turned out the footage he got was worth it.
I dunno.
no offense to you blokes, but if you've ever been out at Kirra like this you'd realise most people are just tea-bagging, too tired to fight the sweep in order to make the heavy drop.
the amount of unridden waves that go through is amazing, nobody should be whingeing about not getting waves at Kirra.
Yep, I take my comments back, could have been pre-arranged..
https://instagram.com/p/zbIPulHkqD
Look back at Kirra..... Can't believe these waves#GoldCoast #Australia @blessed_collector Fun wave
Makes it hard to yell "OI" with a go pro in your gob I guess!!!
Well there you go. My apologies to Jordy.
No craig, it's not certain he didn't just burn him. Like I said, it's also possible the guy was just stoked he got burnt by Jordy and got a sweet clip
True.
it's unclear from his instagram comments that's all.
a really bad burn if it wasn't set-up
Name the pros dropping in : Kaiser said yesterday it was mainly Jordy I saw do it.....
The photog blessed collector said of the pic , this is me and jordy playing cat and mouse.
The ones I saw of Jordy definitely weren't staged
Brutus what a load of shit.. So if jordy or any other pro was dropping in on you at bells you'd just shrug it off and not worry about it because " there testing new boards and and they'll be gone in a couple of weeks" ???
A couple of pros decide to start dropping in at PC....I would love to see that.
Pros need to remember that the average punter who loves surfing, doesn't need Pro Surfing to exist for them to go surfing. The pros need the average punter to support and show interest in the tour to keep the whole thing going. They need us a lot more than we need them
goofy.....have had it happen...does not bother me......as they are only here for a few weeks ....and usually they bring better surfing and there is an exchange of ideas/designs etc......but Goofy there are always those like yourself who choose to whinge , grizzle and just be negative about a couple of weeks of surfing with the best surfers in the world...
I think you should really try and stop considering yourself as an average punter.........as those average punters just love those pro's..
You're perpetuating this shit behaviour. I realise it's your gravy train but c'mon how do you seriously justify it?
how am I to blame....for pros dropping in......everybody gets their dropins at the supa bank.....everyone jumped on Jordy's case and he was dropping in on a guy that was filming him....
........and my gravy train, nothing could be further from the truth....I make NO $'s from pros........
If ya want to talk shit behavior....do something about the Skis in the break near the surfers...
Don't worry about the drop ins! What about the pricks on the skis that catch what waves they want then hail their mates and get dropped back up the point while the rest of us battle the current for hours!!!
No one drops in on Jordy at Jeffreys Bay except this crazy mad gorilla on a knee boarder who burns everybody.
Having surfed and talked to Jordy, gotta say he's pretty polite in the lineup and doesn't snake and takes his turn. Certainly thats been my experience, so would be a surprise if he was blatant.
Also I'm not picky but apart from two waves if thats the best highlights from the 3 days of action it's not that amazing. Anyway thats my twenty cents.
I saw more tubes than in that clip driving around the bend at Kirra on Sunday arvo. Someone must be going to drop a big clip soon, it was pumping.
Brutus I love watching the pros surf. Who doesn't? But just because they rip doesn't give them the right to burn surfers who are already on the wave!! And yes I'm an average punter, just not one who thinks its ok to have a smoking wave ruined by some cunt who surfs ALOT better than myself.
If I'm one of those guys who whinges grizzles and is negative well I guess that makes you one of those guys who get down on there knees and gobbles up every last drop of there pro-cream just because they've got stickers on there boards! Have a good day
goofy...now now calm down....at Bells this has been going on for about 50 years......and we have Winki next door to accommodate all the local surfers...when Bells is good and pros are training and getting their bds sorted....
From what I have seen and experienced down here...the problem is Pros taking off deeper and taking all the set waves...not a lot of blatant dropins...but a whole lot of snaking going on.......
So if you are a punter....are you a local also....so some might think you have more rights than other blowin punters??
And no can't get down on my knees anymore...too old and can't bend that far.....but sounds like you could be jealous...have a really really nice day!
Cheers mate! :)
Yeah it's pretty obvious where some people's bias lay. Some of these people who make money out of pro surfing can't see the forest for the trees. Sad really.....
yeah I am biased..as I grew up surfing when comps were a social event......hmmm so who is making money out of Pro Surfing and why is it sad??
From what I understand you are & your attitude seems very blinded. It's sad because you think it's ok that pros (not all pros) can come into a surf community for a few weeks, drop in at will (because their testing equipment etc) have jet skis buzzing around the lineups (as the various clips have shown from last year & this year), show no respect in the water to these communities then leave & do the same at the next location. But it's ok because apparently "they bring dollars into these areas & there only there for few weeks". We are talking about current times, not the past when the surf comps you attended were social events. That said what are surf comps now Brutus?? In regards to people making money out of pro surfing & not giving a shit about the fall out, this is a prime example......
My experience tells me that as a general rule most of the pros are pretty good to surf with, well aware of the rules (there are always exceptions, as with all of us), it's actually the fringe pros, kids and general hangeroners that really get annoying.
Who isn't a little starstruck when Slater has a chat to ya between sets?
And on Medina, I have never seen him hassling or dropping in, he seems pretty mellow really, I did the walk around yesterday behind him and he happily posed for photo after photo as he tried to make his way back up to Snapper, kind of want to not like him but he seems alright lol.
Sounds like a great example for the rest that choose not to be respectful. Power to him....
Medina burns with impunity, did it to my mate right in front of me last year. I ended up yelling at him
And I might add without wanting to sound Racist/Xenophobic etc that lately the most annoying are the sponsored Japanese surfers out there, I love Japanese people generally but get some stickers on their board and you'll be rolling out the welcome mat for our Brazillian friends.
No joke, I experienced Jap pros in the Maldives back in 2002 and even back then their attitude stank and they were like flies to shit, taking anything that moved and with a boatload of them that was pretty much everything. ALL greedy pricks can go fuck themselves full stop.
Dean Morrison has just put a pic of him at Kirra on his instagram page. He also wrote a pretty intense comment on it about being a local there with some pretty colourful language. If I knew how to put it up on here I would..
Didn't he relocate to Hawaii? Maybe their localism, sob-story, tough times, tough talk bullshit has been rubbing off on him.
Not saying it should be a free for all, but I don't see why it should be any different to other lineups.
Like saying to him when he was a pro and travelling the world, surely taking more waves in lineups than he had paid his dues for. How about fuck you 'Dingo'?
Dean Wearne : 100% agree with your comment.
I reckon you should all get out and let Freddy P practice. Selfish pricks.
Do pros think they deserve more than the next guy?
Let Mr. Morrison state his case.
http://www.mysurf.tv/
Excuse my ignorance but was that Dean Morrison burning that dude? If so that was so fucked!! Hey Brutus, defend that. Oh that's right sorry I forgot, he's only here for this swell & will be chasing the next one somewhere else so it's ok & lets not forget Mr Morrison is spending his hard earned whilst his there too, not to mention the lucky bloke that was already slotted, what a lovely view for him!! It's iust a Win win for everyone!! Yay!!
I saw Mr Morrison get burned on a half dozen smokers last time I was at Deserts. No ones immune.
But that doesn't make it right.
Well at least what goes around comes around hopefully. I'd suggest he's got lots to come.....
Rabbito..do you even surf or do you just sit around and take pot shots at people....and seem to have installed yourself as the sheriff and chief whinger...
all this BS about drop ins ...you have no balls to do anything about Skis just whinge and whine and judge other people by your lofty standards which are based on.....your own personal crap....
Dropins have been happening since surfing began......the GC/Supabank....is one of the most crowded waves on the planet...so who gets the waves in your opinion...all line up and get a numbered ticket??
Haha!! Chief whinger!! Classic. Ofcourse I don't surf, thought that was obvious :-) Just calling you out but clearly you want to have your say without having to back up your generalizations. You are Da man Brutus....
so ya called me out for generalizing....and what can't I back up Rabido...?
Dingo the dog,fuk what aburn,cunt
The only thing I have to ad to this part , is that I'm pretty sure that guy was not going to make that first long section .
Personally I usually give the benefit of doubt , but if anyone knows if someone was going to make a section out there you would think dingo would . Again it seems like drop ins are the done thing at this place , winki , and anywhere that is crowded in Aust . Unfortunately for the pro's they aren't " unidentified " burns so and so . I don't see anyone in here hating on TC .....
Cmon Southey, the bloke was fully slotted & flying through that same section that Fukwit had time drop into, turn then burn. It is what it is........fucking terrible...
I wasn't condoning it . I just noted that Ol mate was probably a bit slow into it . That , and the bigger board he was riding suggested to me that he wasn't going to be skating his way through those two long sections as quick as dingo ....... I thought I'd try and provide some sort of positive out of this shit fight .... I like to see people make fast long sectioning tubes . Even better when they are midgets who make small swells look respectable . ( ie is that for dorrington in WOTD , kinda makes it look heavy )
wait until the surf is over
and we're both a little older
the unknown surfer
breakfast where the surf report is read
internet surfers fed
unborn living, living dead
out of control crowds kill surfing dead
and its all over
for the unknown surfer
its all over
the surf is over
Two seperate vents in different media Rhys !!!
I'm tipping that you've been on the receiving end of Dingo's froth in your own state .
And by the sounds of I reckon it won't happen again on your turf ?!
I reckon let the rats have the tip .
Kerby Brown,Trent Munro lots of others seem to agree with Dingos comment ?
very disapointing........
Saddest (but least surprising) was Koby Abberton.
kobyabberton
"I read all these quotes and laugh. If you don't take sets when u want at your local your a fukn kook. I have watched @dingomorrison travel the world and respect the locals in every country I have seen him wait an hour for a wave in Hawaii. Dingo is a good guy and respects all locals. I would drop in on you kooks and then bash u. In Hawaii and all over the world all surfers respect the locals. It's simple I watch locals paddle around me but it's there home break and I respect it. Share and share but take the waves you want at your local. I respect the rules we all should."
Bit hypocritical coming from that dickhead of all people hahah. I seem to recall a certain break that him and his mates bullied the previous locals away from
Any chance of posting a link to these comments for those of us not tech savy? Cheers
Another from Koby
kobyabberton
Fuk yeah @dingomorrison and I got u and every other bra boy does too!!!!
Personally I think the skis ' no matter who's operating them need to go .
Then atleast it's man on man .
And instead of all this protest shit , and take a video shit .
Just setup a bunch of kids on the hill , with a shitload of lemons and a well made orange gun ........ Ttttttthhhhhhhhhoooooooooooommmmmmmmmpppppppppppp . !
These are the same kids who go down the local public park and bully some passerby off the swings because they own them, they reckon.
Someone on his comments suggested a hashtag
#dropinondingo :)
Another thanked him for the ride on the ski this morning.
Hoping that Steph slaps your face tomorrow refuge boy.
I think Craig is more tech savvy but here's the gram in full.
dingomorrison Love surfing this place more than anything!! I grew up right there,went to primary school right there, when times were tough we had to stay at the refuge right there, so that's why I get territorial right there.. To all those people that think it's a free for all or if ya just moved here and think your a local FUCK YOU takes along time to pay ya dues and earn ya spot in a line up!!!! Photo @dmunnphotography
The video footage is getting better.
Did anyone get amongst it and get some good ones ?
Surely someone came in with a smile on their face.
Haha excellent entertainment thanks
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Love surfing this place more than anything!! I grew up right there,went to primary school right there, when times were tough we had to stay at the refuge right there, so that's why I get territorial right there.. To all those people that think it's a free for all or if ya just moved here and think your a local FUCK YOU takes along time to pay ya dues and earn ya spot in a line up!!!! Photo @dmunnphotography
Dean Morrison, Koby Aberton & friends you are all legend in your own soiled undies. Take what is rightfully yours, just as nature intended. I personally hope you all come to a grim, slow, demeaning end. Stay at your locals, where your rights are indesputeable, cause your not welcome anywhere else on this beautiful planet. Arrogant fuckwits beyond belief.
Fucker must have deleted all the comments, I don't see any anti dingo ones at all. These fags get a freeride, coin and more than their fair share of waves, fuck em.
Really no nobody should take Koby Abberton or what he says seriously. Giving credence to such an unintelligent thug makes him and his band of thugs think that they matter, they don't . Probably the best course of action would be to petition sponsors to drop such leaches then they would have to get real jobs........that'd fuck'em.
Fuck what planet am I on again , Koby respecting locals, not from what I have seen in person.
Soggy koby doesn't have a sponsor and yes he is a thug but I think there is half a brain in there as he has learnt to play the bogans in the surfing world like a violin they think he's cool, but the media shy away from him a bit now so making stupid comments on social media is his platform now days, any publicity is good publicity, actually for this baboon the worse the publicity the better he likes it.
ah locals....so who is and why do they have more rights than others??
sounds like a lot of whinging locals on these forums or are they blowins from...inland??
Dropins have always been part of surfing ...no mention how bad Occy/Parko/Mick etc and how many waves they catch..??
I think there has been in the past.
But they didn't put any stirring comments up recently.
If this swell held off until next week with the contest on and the masses were confined to greenmount/kirra or snapper/greenmount then the ensuing dropins would have been so much worse.
Just because drop ins have been happening for a long time it has never made it it right or healthy or enjoyable or advanced the sport. It's really the only unwritten law (now written in some places) that surfing has to abide by. Throw that out the door & we'll just end up with way more chaos in the lineups & more people with your same poor attitude.....
and ain't that the truth Lostdoggy!!
Hopefully dingo or more so jordy suffers a bad injury in the next couple days. Don't care what you guys think of this comment.
And this just all goes to reinforce my decision to not surf the points in SE QLD anymore. There's just way too much aggression both in and out of the water. Every feckwit believes he's owed something in life rather than earning it from respecting others and treating everyone as equal!!!
Totally agree Don
yeah surfer1....and what kind of bad injury are you hoping for...broken neck or back....hoping they become a paraplegic.......yeah that's the way surfer1..lets get real//anyone dropping in ........maybe the death sentence ????
Hey Brutus, Kobys coming to your local, he's going to drop in on you then he's hoing to bash you (his words). But hey that's cool, your ok with that. Sticking up for these thugs says loads about you....
OK rabids....I don't have any problems with Koby...he is not going to come and drop in on me and bash me......all in your delusional mind......trying to justify your existence as whinger!
OK surfing.....what are the rules and who enforces them and how??
Rabbits was just quoting what Koby said on Dingos post. Basically if a non-local is surfing somewhere he happens to consider his local, he'll drop in on and bash them
Rabbit he was up for charges for killing someone. Be careful.
Yep agreed Melma. People that seriously intimidate others for no reason other than they think it's ok just gets my goat. See plenty of it in my line of work........
koby did not kill anyone...as for intimidation...surfing is anarchy......who enforces the rules and how??
Can you guys suggest an alternative to what we have now??
I hope this doesn't sound like a whinge, the solution is called "respect". It's hard to imagine isn't it??
OK..now how do you propose to bring respect to all in the water...???
Brutus the majority of the people who have commented on this thread, the whinging masses as you referred to them as, have basically agreed that respecting others in the lineup, following that basic principle of not dropping in is the go. I agree in a busy lineup there will always be issues but to go with the belief that it's each man for himself isn't going to help IMO.
so theres 500 out at supa bank.......a guy that you know can't make a perfect wave....comes straight to him...and you turn around and go please its your turn...have a crack ol boy....
everybody is equal,everybody has the same rights so....you get in line and wait your turn??
Is this what you are trying to explain?
Specifically out the superbank I agree with premise that if 500 hundred people are on it & ol mate is not going to make a section (which is sometimes going to be debatable given some of the long deep tube rides I've seen on vid) then that's fine & makes complete sense. But don't try to tell me that's your stance on the issue. Yours seems to be that because drop ins happen that it's just the way of surfing. I've been surfing for 35yrs & learnt from a very young age that dropping in was the cardinal sin of surfing. Have I missed something or was I told a lie all those years ago??
yeah rabs...it was like that......and when ya did drop in ya got bashed or run out of the water ...or just dropped in on.
Today there is so little respect , because of the ever increasing numbers and old blokes are still surfing so there is anarchy.....not much we can do about it........as no more Biff.......ya get charged by the police ,so we now live in era of little respect.....little etiquette....unless ya don't surf in crowds.....
So yeah its just part of surfing now.......you should see lower trestles...that could be the worst ever...as even beginners call you off waves there...!!
It hasn't got to the state of affairs as you see it where I mainly surf in WA. So I disagree with your generalization that it's everehere. Well agree to disagree. Thanks for your points of view....
how about North point...mainbreak,3 bears.....crowded surf........think yourself lucky if you still have old school rules....
bit like when we tow...wait for a 30-40knts crossshore,rain,hail 5 degrees 20' swell...not many people!!
Actually your right Brutus, it does depend on how many surfers with "global respect" are in the area at the time of these good swell events...
Well if a wave comes straight to him and he's on the inside of you its his wave isn't it? I reckon until you see him fall or pull out, the wave is still his. Shouldn't matter if you happen to be a local or not.
Nope that is one of the things i love about surfing, it isn't a yacht club. There are very few rules not real hard to try and abide by them and it would be nice if the guys at the top took a smidgen of responsibility not to be an arsehole.
Parko's a leader. He drops in on the Portuguese in Portugal doesn't he?
You said it not me, maybe not that extreme but if it happens it is what it is (except paraplegic)
Freeride made the comment early / above re: "... biting the hand that feeds them ..."
Surely the WSL can see this? Plenty of video evidence to use to penalise the offending surfers? $ fine, or WCT points? Either way, IF the WSL wants to make their product more 'professional' it's time they took the lead with this issue ...
Surely the 'brands' and 'companies' that sponsor these surfers can see this behaviour is damaging to their brands? Isn't it time, these companies withdrew their sponsorship for the offending professional surfers? Or, again, issued fines, significant fines and perhaps made their sponsored surfers do some community service
In the meantime, we, the average surfer / weekend warrior can simply stop buying products from companies who sponsor the offending professional surfers.
NOTE: Yes, Brutus agreed, drop in's have always been a part of the 'sport'. However, with increasing crowds and thus increased risks, having the professional ranks so blatantly doing the wrong thing only makes it seem like it is OK for the average punter. This fuels the drop in culture and increases the risks further ... surely it's time for a change?
As for jet ski in the lineup ... where the fuck are the Police / Maritime? The maritime laws and rules exist for a reason. Again, isn't it time they used them and issued some fines? It will be too late when someone is run over and killed!
fine them WCT points?
you're havin a larf.
Agreed Wingy. Made a similar point earlier about people involved in pro surfing making money but not giving a shit about the end result. Daft....
have an easy solution.....1 week before a Comp......Pros have all the rights to train and surf at the competition site...and all the rest of the surfers have 2nd priority!
As far as damaging the brands....ah Global brands sell globally and one would think that any local surf spot would represent less than .0001% of sales .....
Its only social media and videos that are firing up the moronic masses....with knee jerk reactions and emotional wiffle waffle!!
https://www.facebook.com/mySURF.tv/posts/508129239327630
The poor bloke he dropped in on commented on this one
He's a brazzo so nobody cares. ;)
Must've snaked those jet skis one too many times. Bastard.
A comment from Ian Cairns on there .
didn't see Kangas comment udo .
although i did see Hards baiting in classic troll fashion . so amazingly this will be the first time that he and Koby have seen eye to eye . so there's one bonus for the twitterverse .
Great waves but what a clusterfcuk that place is. Whatever happened too a bit of courtesy and good vibes not happening on any populated stretch of coast.
It's understandable that people who live there, work there and don't get to travel much get frustrated by overcrowding when they probably miss plenty of good days due to work commitments.
But those who travel the world surfing for a living playing the local card is so fcuking hypocritical especially the ones who have surfed the best days of waiting periods at likes of Pipe.
Don't want to surf with fcukwits live in remote areas away from easy travelling distance of overpopulated cesspools like the Goldy, Sydney, Melbourne or Perth also don't surf on weekends when carloads of fcukwits show up because of a good forecast and throw etiquette out the window.
Dingo is copping an absolute roasting on that mysurf clip!!
Better jump on there and defend him Brutus!
ahhh don't ya love that great Australian sport..tall poppy syndrome!!!
We have now surpassed the whinging pommies...with the whining Aussie tall poppy syndrome club.......be proud guys!!
Isn't tall poppy syndrome giving someone shit when they do something good??
Tell me what part of that dog act was good!
The barrel he got.
ah the barrel he got..he gets paid to go surfing, has a lot of mates that are at the top of the surfing heap., surfs so many different big waves all around the planet...
Dingo is actually a very good ambassador for Australian surfing.........
At least you've finally made me laugh. Thanks Brutus. It was getting a bit heavy there for a while....
Such as yourself in the 70's;-))
ah rabs and M.....yeah it all was getting a bit heavy...haha.....
Dingo actually can go surfing anywhere in Hawaii and has the respect of the locals....and most other countries I know of......but if you only just live in your own backyard ,you might not understand what it is to have Global respect...of course unless you are an Aussie in Australia........
I can't even remember the 70's!
Quick poll here and it seems to be the guys who don't surf it, looking in, that are more upset about the drop in situation. Extrapolating from my sample size of 1 (me) those that surf it accept that it is what it is. Some days good, some days bad but some magic waves in amongst the mayhem that keeps you going back. Drop-ins happen out there and no one is immune and no one who surfs it regularly can honestly say that they haven't dropped in on someone at some point either.
In summary - chill, its OK.
Accidentally dropping in and then apologising to the person you dropped in on (both in the water and on social media) versus "feck you I'm a local feck off I am owed this wave" are two very different things.
I think you'll find it's the attitude of the offending drop in people that the masses are objecting to here, not so much the physical drop in itself!!!
Fair point mk1 but I agree with Dons summary....
Don, with all respect every snapper-kirra video has a metric tonne of comments about how "things shouldn't be like that and thank god I don't have to surf it"
I've been faded by some of the best out there, as well as some of the worst. And truth be told I've done it from time to time on a bad day myself. The one rule that is usually followed is - if the guy is in a makeable tube, no drop ins, just sit back and watch. The week proceeding the quikky pro though - hell anything is possible. As for dingo, I am not going to delve into it but it sounds like one of the worserer drop ins, but that happens at this time of year, hopefully the other guy still managed to get some good ones.
Let me ask you this.....if one of these so called pros rocked up at Indo would they let every Indo local get every set wave and let the local drop in on them?
Or even more to the point, if one of these so called pros rocked up at PNG (or some other very remote location with very few experienced local surfers in the water) would they let every PNG local get every set wave and let the local drop in on them?
I think not!!!
I recently returned from a reasonably remote surfari last year where there was only a handful of boats operating. 99% of the surfers in the water (including locals) abided by the rule, if you've just got a wave, then you're at the end of the queue, irrespective of your seated position in the line up. This worked amazing well and was well respected by all people in the water (locals included). The countries of origin of people in the water ranged from Aussies, Saffas, Frenchies and Indo locals who live and work on location. This rule all fell to pieces the day a boat load of Japanese Hawaiians rocked up. One guy in particular caught each set wave and continued to paddle straight back up the point and sit the deepest on the inside every time and get the next wave. That was until he did it to me too many times and I yelled at him "feck off cvnt". I think he got the message after that.
It's not hard to respect every one in the water and share the waves. No one owns anything in the water, and no one is certainly "owed" any wave based on their heritage/status in the line up.
Treat everyone in the line up like they're your brother/sister/mates etc and the ocean/surf will become a much much more pleasant place.
It's very simple. If someone is actually on a wave, don't get on it. If they fall off, and you're in the right spot... knock yourself out. You cannot pre-emptively take a wave as there will always be a chance they could have made it if you just stayed the fuck away, no matter how kooky they seem.
Thats my son in the vid from 16 sec to 26 sec, (its all the same wave, put the last edit first and you've got the right sequence). He surfed for 5 hrs that day and certainly got some good ones without ski help. He's a born local and doesn't drop in, snake or even hassle.
But he was fuming after that late Kirra session with the blatant burning going on by more that a few 'pro's' even some who he knows... drop ins and ski snaking....
A Dingo stole my wavey.
Shit was just about to write that for the classic surfers quotes on behalf of Delman Ferreira the poor fucker who got burnt.
Hah ha ha ha!! Gold!
Haha, classic!
Awesome Shauno;)
Is Delman Ferreira an Aussie ?
Does it matter?
I don't know about this Dean Morrison business, Kirra has always been this way, it's not a new thing, it's not just him, I think his comment justifying it was in poor judgement though, would have been better off with a "couldn't let that go to waste" or something along those lines.
I have lived here for nearly 10 years, mind my own business, occasionally get burnt, never had a dispute and get plenty of waves. I am by no means a local but certainly don't get as savaged as when I was fresh off the boat. I respect the locals, I understand that I am probably not going to get the wave of the year if the likes of Dingo etc are around, I have no problem with this.
I have watched this clip a couple of times and I think that guy was no chance to make it, he didn't have the drive to get through those following sections.
I guess what I am trying to say is Coolangatta would probably benefit from some sort of local enforcement, if you do your time, wait your turn, show a bit of respect then it might be a happier experience for all. Unless you surf there a lot you wouldn't understand it.
A lot of areas could do with this. Sometimes it doesn't need to be a matter of the locals get all the waves but more a case of a dickhead drop's in, snake and hassle pretty much chooses to behave badly they receive a bit of pressure from the locals to pull their head in. It will only work if the locals self regulate though and don't be bloody hypocrite's. Highly unlikely and sometimes poor local attitudes has encouraged shit behaviour in the surf.
Yeah i'm with you Seaman, if he had just been a bit more humble/apologetic about it i could handle it but now i just think he's a dick. When i was i Bali last year my son wanted to see the Mad Huey contest at Keramas, i saw that Dingo was in it and said yeah be good to watch. Dingo was great to the kids photos autographs ect and i thought what a nice guy. If this had happened before hand i wouldn't of bothered going, thus the 20 odd people i dragged along wouldn't of gone and spent money at the Kommune Resort ect,ect.
Has the groyne extension made any difference? Good solution to the overcrowding problem.
Plenty of long stretches of beach in se qld that could benefit from a little man made intervention.
This is just Calhouns rats in a cage writ large.
Too many rats not enough cheese and we see the behavioural sink. Aggression in Gotham City.
Pros aren't Einstein, they should probably stay away from social media. Better to keep your mouth shut and have everyone think you are a dickhead than open it and prove it beyond doubt.
I think there may finally be a solution to the problem of too many surfers-not enough waves and the hand of friendship is extended to SUPs as a bonus.....win-win-win!
Stab Mag has a nice interview up on their website with Dingo