Eddie Rothman: a $50,000 challenge to the World Surf League

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Stu Nettle (stunet)
Swellnet Dispatch

"I've got $50,000 that says, you put me on a lie detector, and you put Graham Stapelberg or Randy Rarick or Paul Speaker on a lie detector, and we'll see who's telling the truth."

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evosurfer Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 5:45pm

Fast Eddie you are a colorful character no doubt with a very shady pass and you maybe correct abut what you say I really don't know or care but what ive witnessed 1st hand with my 25odd trips there is that the Nth Shore life guards are a fucken pathetic joke as I told my kids last trip don't get into any trouble there because the so called water heroes wont rescue you until you make back to the beach usually by a decent local. Then in disbelief they witness it 1st hand. Give me aussie pro life guards any day.

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murphy-s-law Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 8:34pm

I lived and surfed Oahu for a few years in the 90's. We use to body surf Makapuu, and I can remember my friends getting high with the lifeguard as 2 tourist scuba divers were trying to get out of the beachbreak unsuccessfully . He sat and watched as the male was trying to pull the woman up the sandy slope over and over as she got knocked down. Unbelievable.

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holophage Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 8:53pm

Just had another look at this clip.
Yes the guy is a dick, but his theories are no more inflammatory than any burnout pro wrestler. He's just scratching for a bit of free publicity. I guess the money crew have his measure, so he's doing what any other shock-jock would do, mouthing off, issuing challenges. Rothman has a history of violence and intimidation and a reputation as a drug dealer. He should not receive any credibility or media oxygen -just let him fizzle out in a cloud of impotent anger....
Pity his kids...

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cbl Monday, 12 Jan 2015 at 1:37pm

your a fucking kook

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zenagain Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 6:00pm

I love the pidgin speak and how he complained that Vans doesn't sponsor one Hawaiian blooded surfer. John John is more island than Eddie and he's their number 1 rider.

And his son seems to be doing pretty well on the big wave tour.

I bet he just hates not being Polynesian.

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Rabbits68 Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 6:30pm

Zen, where was Rothman born & raised??

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udo Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 6:40pm

Mainland U.S. the man is Jewish.

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Rabbits68 Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 6:43pm

Cheers Udo

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bondisteve Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 6:08pm

Oh shit Eddie! Saying that about Mr. Rarrick will be honey to a bee.
But great work on developing the alternate North Shore contest thing.

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Kapps Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 6:58pm

What an idiot! Eddie, you started ripping on the ASP for surfing crap waves while pipe was pumping, then you want to fight them for "imposing their will in Hawaii". And its the WORLD championship tour that means traveling the world

And hell no there shouldn't be 12 locals in the Pipe contest, so what they only surf the one wave and they're good at it. (Well they all did f*#k all this year?, not that good maybe?). They can go surf 2 foot Rio and earn their spot.

And yes idiot, its always about money & publicity. Everything is about money including the NFL, NBA and Premier league. Stop being a hater and a bad image for Hawaii.

PS. Cheer the F*#k up.

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rothmanisatool Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 10:26am

haha yep well said

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murphy-s-law Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 7:41pm

I haven't signed in or commented in years, but feel I have to now.
Right or wrong, this guy is a tool.

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udo Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 7:54pm

Eddie said in Bustin down the Door he new nothing and had nothing to do with Rabbits North Shore beating...........answer that question under the lie detector test Eddie.

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goofyfoot Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 8:38pm

This cave man has to be one of the most entertaining people on the net. Not bad for a white Jewish bloke from Texas who built his rep in Hawaii by violence, intimidation and dealing drugs to the kids of Hawaii.

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inzider Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 8:54pm

Whats wrong with dealing to kids? He was just ensuring his own kid wouldnt have as many competitors growing up. Nothing quite like meth to obliterate the youth.
Sounds like he has a slight identity crisis and mild personality disorder perhaps.
Apart from contradicting himself he has some valid points (for sale).

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jmsoulsurfer Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 9:12pm

lol

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Rabbits68 Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 11:26pm

Stu, If this Rothman fella is such a nasty price of work why does SN choose to continue to post his rants? Just curious as to your reasoning. Cheers.

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thermalben Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 11:32pm

When have we previously posted any of his rants?

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Rabbits68 Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 11:38pm

Thought you would know that better than me Ben? The previous one was in regards to the Pipe wild cards I think. Correct me if I'm wrong. It was a genuine question. Just curious. If it's simply because SN thinks it's funny, fair enough I suppose. It just seems to me to promote a person, if all is to be believed, that doesn't need any attention IMO.... Cheers

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thermalben Friday, 9 Jan 2015 at 11:48pm

We haven't, that was my point (someone started a forum thread on it, which is different from Stu "choosing to continue to post his rants").

In this case of this video, and in consideration of several alleged events on the North Shore over the last few years, this video poses some interesting questions for the WSL.

Perhaps the WSL will just choose to ignore him (as they seemingly did after Eddie's October video), but in any case this clip was deemed worthy of a mid-season discussion point for the website. Which it seems to be doing reasonably well!

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Rabbits68 Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 12:00am

Thanks for clarifying. Much appreciated. May the worthy discussion continue....

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t-diddy Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 12:29am

Eddie,
As a 1 time Hawaiian resident of many years, I know what the sun can do to your skin in the tropics. I have grave concerns about some of the lesions on your shoulders - please see a dermatologist - they may warrant removal. Also, I'm not sure what the lie detector would prove? The Australian water patrol in Hawai'i would be a joke - point taken - otherwise please have a mai tai or some poke.

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inzider Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 12:41am

Lots of gold calls on this topic over at STAB mags website
Some funny shit going down

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stunet Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 8:33am

With two comps to go - that may or may not be held due to size requirements being met - Makua Rothman, Fast Eddie's son, is leading the Big Wave World Tour by a considerable margin. He's odds on to win the WSL's big wave world title.

What I'd give to be there for that award ceremony.

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peterb Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 8:43am

What do I know, but I'm with Rothman, nothing wrong with a surfer giving a 'fuck you' to the organisations that think they own it. Nice little bit of the knife you slip in there Udo, being a Jewish born surfer makes a difference does it?

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the-spleen Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 8:49am
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Nice little bit of the knife you slip in there Udo, being a Jewish born surfer makes a difference does it?

When you proclaim Hawaiian heritage, yes it does make a difference. Not too many Jews wandering the Sandwich Islands back in the day.

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brutus Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 9:06am

he's actually from Pennsylvania.....there is a very strong lashback from the real Hawaiians over Eddies 1st rant.....and Eddie's threat to paddle out during the Pipe final..

there were some very pissed off hawaiians who made it very clear to him....NOT to talk on behalf of the Hawaiian's .....he can on behalf of the Hui....but as he is not Hawaiian and this was made pretty clear to him......

All my life I have had the pleasure of calling Hawaii my second home and have lived the "Aloha" spirit on every trip .........how much Aloha does Eddie have?

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peterb Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 9:08am

The difference, what is this 'difference' Is it based on religion, skin colour, place of birth, accent, appearance, surfing ability, education, money ... or is it just a little underhand bigotry?

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rothmanisatool Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 9:10am

this guy is a deadset moron and crybaby. its really pathetic to see a grown man act this way. a grandpa, washup never was who is about as local as a eucalypt in california. eddie rothman grow up and accept that hawaii just doesnt have the surfers to compete against the brazillians and americans and australians etc. that said JJF is probably the best surfer on the planet and you are still whinging. its really pathetic. you need to get a life and be a good representative for "your island" and "your hui" and learn to speak english properly if you are going to rant on the web like a tool. f*ck off you dipshit.

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stunet Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 9:21am

Might wanna buy a tub of sorbolene too. That skin of his ain't pretty.

Pete, I think Udo was emphasising just how non-Hawaiian Eddie is. Could've said Inuit, could've said Aboriginal, but as he's Jewish he said Jewish. Is it bigotry to point it out?

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zenagain Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 9:41am

Could have said he's Macadamian, but he still aint Hawaiian.

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peterb Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 9:45am

Stu: yes, it has no direct relevance to the view Rothmans is putting forward.

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Blowin Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 9:47am

Do you reckon Zosea will consider the wishes of locals when it comes to another attempt at an unpopular contest location such as the Lennox / Gnaraloo debacle ?

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wally Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 10:44am

Strange remarks from Mr. Rothman.
I thought there was enough reporting to shown that the ASP moved away from having more events in Hawaii because of Mr Rothman's community group.

Fred Hemmings comments in court are relevant.

"Giving evidence in July last year (1987) Mr Fred Hemmings, a member of Hawaii's State legislature and a former world champion surfer, called the Black Shorts"domestic terrorists".

Hemmings, who organisers surfing contests on the North Shore, claimed that the gang demanded that it be paid to provide "security" at the contests.

Life guards from other parts of the island ran competitions for much less, but they refused to work at North Shore events because they were afraid of Rothman and his group, Hemmings said.

"I don't want to hire a vigilante terrorist organisation on the North Shore," Hemmings told the court. "I hired them because I had no choice."

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zenagain Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 11:03am

Removed due to it's irrelevance to this discussion.

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udo Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 11:04am

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southey Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 10:54am

Blowin ,
It won't be just locals that would stop a comp in NWA .
Consider that its on Private property and access is through another property ...
But the old saying of money never lies , bit far fetched , but flying in and or boats ....
Although I still think local "resistance " would still win the day .
As for the BWWT , well even when they keep it in cold wind affected spots as opposed to Pristine tropics as a Television coverage issue is more important than good waves . Makua still shows them up even in rubber , I think there is a fair bit of feeling on the rock ATM , regardless of what Eddie says and true islanders reactions . As a whole they will be out to prove something . Not since the Kauai boys took over has there been someone to " carry the torch " so to speak . Could Makua turn out to be the saviour . Either way , I'm wit Stu you'd want to be there to hear the victory speech .

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islandman Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 11:42am

any one know where i can find this interesting fellows first rant?

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jasper99 Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 11:50am

i'm not even sure what he's trying to tell us....
he doesn't want contests in Hawaii? and he doesn't want contest run in other countries
coz the waves are shit?
surfing does exist outside of Hawaii yes?
i'm confused

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caml Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 12:09pm

good article . some entertainment on a average surf day . very funny , thanks to all

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islandman Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 12:11pm

i guess eddie is worried that the spirit of surfing will and is being lost through corporate involvement , is that what he is trying to say in a rough and abbrasive way? i have to agree with him on that front even though it is a bit rich coming from a man who has spent his life intimidating people and dealing drugs. and for god sake man buy some aloe vera and put your hat on the right way

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leckiep Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 2:31pm

Can anyone actually tell me what the challenge/bet is?
$50,000 to get on a lie detector and do what??? Answer a couple of Eddie's questions?
i.e. what would someone have to do to win or lose the money?

I can't for the life of me determine what it is that Eddie wants outside of gesticulating angrily at the camera.

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wally Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 4:27pm

The people at GrindTV have attempted to decode Mr Rothman's request.
They reckon Mr Rothman is proposing a $50,000 lie detector challenge to the WSL and its key personnel including Chief Executive Paul Speaker, Hawaii regional head Randy Rarick and Chief Marketing & Strategy Officer Graham Stapleberg to answer a range of allegations that include:

1) The ASP cut promised funds for the Da Hui Backdoor Shootout.

2) The ASP threatened the Hawaiian TV channel Oceanic Surf, telling them not to broadcast events involved with the Da Hui.

3) That Randy Rarick “worked feverishly to kill the Duke Kahanamoku Contest” and “stole a pure Hawaiian old lady’s house for a quarter of the market value.”

4) That Paul Speaker “bought the Big Wave World Tour just to bury it.”

Elsewhere, it has been suggested that those named should take up the lie detector challenge, in return for being able to ask Mr Rothman any questions they deemed of interest.

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Rabbits68 Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 4:41pm

Cheers Wally, that helps give the post some background/context. Lots of guessing/wondering from the rest of us not in the know otherwise....

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leckiep Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 4:57pm

Thanks Wally!

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Kapps Sunday, 11 Jan 2015 at 2:21pm

Well Eddie, he's the truth to your questions.

1) When you run your mouth on how much you hate the ASP and say they're doing a shit job, you want get the financial backing. And nor should you, Ripcurl etc always put up the money themselves, because its a valued investment and they get quality promotion of their brand for it. So Da Hui can do the same, promote the brand yourself don't expect the ASP to do it. The Da Hui shoot out is not apart of the ASP, its a local Hawaiian event, not for the pro circuit. So why should the WSL put up their money and Samsung's money for that event.

2) If the ASP and Oceanic Surf channel have a deal for the rights to broadcast the ASP's product then Oceanic surf shouldn't show/promote another surf contest that isn't apart of the ASP. That's business Eddie. No different then the deals the NFL and NBA do with ESPN and ABC etc.

3) Load of shit, just your ego and opinion. And I bet if you were looking to buy a new house you would take a bargain if you could get it, anyone would.

3) How is the BWWT going to get buried? Its getting more promotion and money then ever before. And Billabong use to own it, which are one of the big money hungry Corporation who you rant about that are ruining surfing.

P.S. If you're so against the WSL then why is your son competing, why doesn't he just do the free surf thing. Will he donate his winnings to local competitions and surf industries, I think not.

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wellymon Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 5:12pm

Thanks Wally

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peterb Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 4:58pm

What eddie didn't say was that his big fucken dawg was going to be sitting under the table when he was asking the questions.

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wellymon Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 5:11pm

Nah, he has a little white fluffy chiwawa and it will be in his man bag, slung around those burley shoulders of his.

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DINN Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 5:32pm

im too young to know... but could Eddie actually surf?? like who would the comparison today...

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wally Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 6:57pm

He is a good surfer. A goofyfoot. Back 30 or so years ago, he was one of the Pipeline crew. Back then, he was one of those no-name locals who ruled the break and surfed it well. Those days are gone, but he can still surf well for an old bloke.

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mikehunt207 Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 7:42pm

Very easy to talk a bunch of shit from the safety of your computer in Australia fellas. Imagine if your local beaches were swamped with everyone from world champs , every wanna be pro surfer on the planet right thru to absolute utter fuckwits ( and fuckwit world champs and pro surfers very often) who have been surfing all year elsewhere in the world while you suffer thru another flat Hawaiian summer and as soon as the surf finally arrives so do above mentioned and the contests taking up your surf spots on the best days of the season, i am sure you would be stoked? Sure Eddie may not be the smoothest ambassador or a "pure Hawaiian" as seems to be your issue (were you born on your"local" beach that you have lives at since you were 16?) but without him and others like him Hawaii would be way more fucked up than it is already. Fuck the ASP

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DINN Sunday, 11 Jan 2015 at 10:49am

to quote noa deane its actually "fuck the WSL" now

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braudulio Monday, 12 Jan 2015 at 12:07pm

Good call! Love to see a few of the SN 'hardmen' let him know their opinions to his face. Given the crying and hand wringing 'round here about crowds, photos and naming of spots etc. here in Aus you'd think there'd be some sympathy or even support. At least for the message.

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suckin-sand Wednesday, 14 Jan 2015 at 8:25pm

Well said 207. I'm with you. I'm sure they made Pipeline a safer place to surf by keeping the kooks out of the water. Heavy enough without crew that don't know what they are doing.

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surfmanphantom Saturday, 10 Jan 2015 at 7:51pm

eddie rothman seems like a very nasty piece of work
I cant see him being a good role model for anything

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southey Sunday, 11 Jan 2015 at 12:11am

Gee , what is it with everyone believing that Surfings past is one of clean living and morally strong figures . What's wrong with having a little bit on an edge , atleast that way we can't be bailed up by tossers at party's trying to raise convo's of how they mastered surfing on their brand new mini mal , why pretend it's some sort of mainstream activity . Eddie amongst countless others have maintained a uniqueness that has made this past time enjoyable ... What next , are we going to start kissing ass with clubbies !? ;-)

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shaun Sunday, 11 Jan 2015 at 6:01am

So true southey, all the stories worth telling are about intimidation, drugs and general skulduggery/larricanism . If they did drug tests before the year 2000 3/4 of the world champions would lose there crowns and to find a drug-free winner they'd end up giving it to the Japanese kid ranked at 113. I don't like eddie or the hui, but I think he made some pretty good points and I could understand everything he said, maybe it was not worded that well but you could see he was frustrated, I thought he did alright, those that are hanging it on him are just" haters":-))

A mate had a run in with eddie in bali in the 70's and ed ordered him to get out of the water, mate pointed out to him that for $10 he could quite easily get a javanese to knife him, eddie backed off.

Yeah Southey, a lot of these blokes are liking a bit of clubbie ass, if I read correctly in another article on here, don't worry I think it's a sydney thing clubbies will always be scum in vicco.

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The Bar Sunday, 11 Jan 2015 at 8:01am

This fella makes some good points

Don't shoot the messenger, the message is good

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sypkan Sunday, 11 Jan 2015 at 11:33am

Good comments above, I thought he raised some good points and he was totally understandable. Not everyone talks with a posh palm beach slsc accent you know, some of u guys need o get out more , or at least open your minds a little.

It was good to finally see someone in the surf media with some personality, or at least have the balls to show some personality, I'm sure the rest of the surf media and asp clones aren't as borng as they seem.

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sypkan Sunday, 11 Jan 2015 at 12:03pm

Not having a go at swellnet there, moreso the clones who are polished enough to make it onto the tv.

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adam12 Sunday, 11 Jan 2015 at 3:23pm

Chicks dig carbunkels!

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silver-surfer Monday, 12 Jan 2015 at 9:45pm

If not Eddie - then who is keeping the ASP/WSL to account? Who is standing up to these dollar driven parasites that blow into our surf spots and fence us out? Who is prepared to call them to account - for stealing the soul of surfing - to drive the sale of overpriced boardshorts stitched up by underpaid koolies. Wake Up Fools! Until real surfers start standing up to the WSL and saying - fuck off, back off - and spread your WSL coin - build your own surf spots and stop stealing ours. Go Eddie - go harder!

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inzider Tuesday, 13 Jan 2015 at 12:03am

I second that silver surfer, the WSL can [email protected]#K right off. They can build a stadium wavepool and have their ego fest in that bathtub. Stand up or be stood on and fucked over.

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Rabbits68 Sunday, 18 Jan 2015 at 2:16pm

Far out Sheepy, that's bad news. Sounds like he was "lucky" he wasn't injured worse or even killed...

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Sheepdog Sunday, 18 Jan 2015 at 2:20pm

Yeah, pretty full on , rabbit.... met Robert whilst spectating at the old Schweppes Coolum classic... Top bloke.... took the time to have a chat with not only me, but heaps of people.... Hope they catch the pricks....

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zenagain Sunday, 18 Jan 2015 at 3:20pm

Goodness me! Agreed sheepy, met him at a function about 10 years ago, really nice bloke.

Thieves, rapists and child molesters, they should drown the fuckers, I make no distinctions.