Chris Garrett asymmetrical

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Stu Nettle (stunet)
The Depth Test

1_48.jpg“Free your mind and your ass will follow.” 
George Clinton, P-Funk.

There are only two reactions when people lay eyes on my new board: attraction or repulsion. They either ask a question or screw their face. Indifference, it would seem, is impossible.

What sort of board would cause such a response? One that deviates from the norm of course. The board is a Chris Garrett asymmetrical 's-tail' quad. 5'8” on the heel side, 5'10” on the toe side.

The planshape is symmetrical from the nose to just before the tail where it pulls in two inches shorter on the heel side than on the toe. The fins are symmetrical across the stringer but, again, they're two inches forward on the heel side than the toe side.

A quick glance at the back end of the board and things appear skewif. The response I get is no surprise. “Our eyes are trained to search for symmetry,” says Chris. “Symmetry of the face, for instance. It's what defines beauty. And so boards that are symmetrical look good. We cant avoid that.”

While Chris can't alter people's reactions he can, and does, avoid being beholden to them. Working under his own label (Phantom surfboards) and also shaping for Deus ex Machina, Chris has made a name for himself with left field creations. He's the Johnathon Livingstone Seagull of the surfboard industry: avoiding the pack, following his own intuition, and challenging normative behaviour – such as symmetrical boards.

“We don't stand with our feet straight across the stringer,” says Chris bluntly, “they're at an angle.” And if you want another justification for asymmetry Chris says to simply look at your hoof, “One end has five little round things hanging off it, the other end a great round sole.” The pressure applied varies from one side of the board to the other.

And that is the key to asymmetrical thinking; a design that matches the physical peculiarities of the human body to those of the breaking wave. In this instance Chris shaped a board for a natural foot surfer to ride on a right hand point break.

2_23.jpgI'd considered buying an asymmetrical board for at least three years, however my curiosity was always beaten down by rationality. Why risk $700 on an experiment? So when I finally got one I was as fixated as any car park rubberneck. Hours were lost pondering the flow of water over fibreglass, or how fin positioning changes a board's performance.

Early surfs were spent with my antennae twitching, keenly feeling for the board's nature. However, it wasn't nearly as dramatic as three years of wondering had built it up to be. Everything I'd spoken to Chris about, the board subsequently did: it drove off the toe side, turned sharp off the heels. The initial feeling was similar to swapping a longboard for a shortboard; the first few waves feel particularly loose - that was how heel side turns felt in relation to toe side - until you instinctively adjust and it feels normal.

Similarly, there was no weirdness swapping from heel side to toe side. When pumping down the line, for instance. Although the fins on the heel side were two inches forward, they were the same distance from the rail as the fins on the toe side - each fin cluster related to the rail in the same way. And this aspect is crucial in respect to, say, the anything-goes asymmetry of Ryan Burch where Burch might whack one fin on this side and two fins on the other, or any combination that takes his fancy.

“Surfing is all fin and edge,” says Chris. “So if you get that formula right [as you can with asymmetry] you get an instant advantage.” It takes a particular kind of surfer though. Not necessarily one blessed with talent but with curiosity. “If you open your mind to it you remove the mental stumbling block and anything is possible,” says Chris.

Carl Ekstrom is considered the grandfather of asymmetrical boards yet many shapers I spoke to had their own epiphany independent of the forward thinking San Diegan. For Garrett it was a trip to Gnaraloo six years ago. “It's an intense wave,” says Chris, “so I wanted to get the best out of my boards and that meant driving off the bottom and more sensitivity and sharper turning off the top. When I rode it I got that instant advantage.”

In the weeks following that first surf I had many more sessions, some in small beach breaks. And that led to a surprise I hadn't considered: the board also worked in small lefts. The words of Terry Fitzgerald were never more astute: “Everything works. Just some things work better than others.” But of course! The design objective was still apparent, the board wanted to turn tightly off the bottom, but it was of little hindrance – a heel side turn is a heel side turn.

On Swellnet the other day I was asked a question about the board: “Is it better or just different?” I'm still stuck for an answer. Like Phaedrus trying to define quality I can't make a clear distinction, though in the month since receiving it I'm yet to ride any other board. In an oblique way I think that answers the question.

If a more definite answer is required then Tom Carroll has it. While surfing Snapper recently he caught a few waves on one of Chris' 5'4”/5'9” asymmetricals. TC was surprised by the odd looking board but after a good workout gave it a positive assessment: “This board goes really, really good.”

“You've just got to open our mind to asymmetricals,” says Chris. “Tom did.”

Chris Garrett Shapes

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udo Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 5:54pm

Nice board, any reason it has the old style fin plugs.

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lostdoggy Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 6:09pm

{A quick glance at the back end of the board and things appear skewif. The response I get is no surprise. “Our eyes are trained to search for symmetry,” says Chris. “Symmetry of the face, for instance. It's what defines beauty. And so boards that are symmetrical look good. We cant avoid that.”}

Where did Chris get his idea that symmetry of the face defines beauty?
That's a load of crap.

Nice board; very keen to try one at some stage.

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pointy Sunday, 28 Jun 2015 at 8:34pm

"Where did Chris get his idea that symmetry of the face defines beauty?
That's a load of crap."

according to this faces are not even symmetrical

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2013/02/12/3687902.htm

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memlasurf Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 6:27pm

I wonder what he would shape if you were a natural footer (as you are) and wanted a board that went well in left-handers like the Bukit in Bali? Same board because the asymmetry is related to being natural or goofy not the way the wave breaks? No so keen on the old school looking glass job looks to backyard 70's for me (I was there they were crap).

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 10:45am

Rather than asking natural or goofy, Chris always shapes the longer edge to go into the wave face (i.e for bottom turns) and the shorter edge for off the tops and cutties.

I used the toe side/heel side distinction 'cause I wasn't sure how else to describe it. I guess I also brought my own ideas and expectations to the project.

The glass job? Ha ha...love resin tints, but then I wasn't there in the 70s.

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mibs-oner Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 7:14pm

I still don't understand these stu. I'm not trying to hang shit on you or the board I have just never seen high performance surfing on an asymmetrical.
Please excuse the ignorance, I'm stuck in my ways and have no interest in trying one but if you have a link to some footage of someone proper shredding on an asym I'm keen to see it

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 9:33am

You don't have to apologise Mibs, I know you're not having a go. I think the reason we don't see CT surfers on them is those guys want a neutral board under their feet. Also, Top 34 surfers have much better technique and body mechanics than regular punters could ever hope to have. They can readily overcome backside/frontside differences. There's also the issue of an unwillingness to experiment with boards too much. K Slater being the exception.

When Memla asked me if the board is 'better or just different' I was genuinely stumped. If he asked if it feels better my answer would've been unequivocal: Yes! It feels fucken great.

And I suppose that's what I'm chasing at the moment - a feeling. It feels very different, and the byproduct is that it's opened the door to an aspect of board design that I'd long wondered about. I'm gonna save my coin and get another one 2-4 inches longer as a step up up for bigger waves.

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carpetman Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 12:38pm

I remember hearing something about Ace or someone riding an Assym at chopes. Although I don't think it was quite as exaggerated as the board above. Anyone know anything about this?

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billie Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 2:43pm
carpetman wrote:

I remember hearing something about Ace or someone riding an Assym at chopes. Although I don't think it was quite as exaggerated as the board above. Anyone know anything about this?

Think it was Andy Irons at chopes. So slightly assymetrical.

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carpetman Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 2:52pm

Thanks, and apparently Josh Kerr at chopes in 2014 according to Donald Brink.

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mibs-oner Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 3:00pm

Wow. I'm shocked, impressed and surprised all at once. You won't see KS on one out there though just in case he decides to go right ;)

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 10:23am

And also, I don't heap this board into the 'alternative' category. I wanted a HPS and it rides like one too.

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udo Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 7:43pm

The rush of the continuous rhythm Ryan Birch : vimeo
This vid is fucking good ...Gland and Desert pt.

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goofyfoot Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 8:04pm

Shit yeah that clip is so good

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udo Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 8:22pm

Would love to ask Ryan what sort of shape / length board and fin config he would ride at Ulu this Sat.

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goofyfoot Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 9:58pm

Ask him on Instagram?

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ACB__ Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 9:09am

Agreed.

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udo Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 7:45pm

Mibs ,what did you think ?

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mibs-oner Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 1:40pm

That dude shreds there's no doubt about it. I get the feeling watching him though as if he enjoys riding single fins. Besides a handful of big turns off the top that's the way it looks like he surfs. That's cool if you like that kind of thing. I can't get into it personally. In saying that it's a nice change to the 100 air revs in every other video part but i'd still rather watch a modern style over an old school influence

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brutus Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 10:18pm

Asymetrics..carl ekstrom patent...1963.......been riding asymmetric bds and Towbds for about 7 years......Ryan Burch really pushing the limits on his bds.....sponge for input and an amazing surfer..........amazing shaper....and he's just starting......its really interesting to try and get the bd design adapted to forehand and back hand.......a new frontier.... BEEN RIDING EM AT BELLS FOR ABOUT 7 YEARS......long bottom turns shot radius top turns.......asymmetric fin set ups......

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yogii Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 10:49pm

Interesting concept...

Can I ask Stu did you buy the board or was it given to you?

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morris Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 6:40am

Cash for comment??? :)))

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 9:21am

morris wrote:

Cash for comment??? :)))

Sorry to disappoint Shaun/Morris but your big gotcha moment is gonna have to wait.

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morris Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 9:38am

You misread my comment stu, it was yogii who alluded to the slur on your journalistic integrity and I was defending it, cash for comment, really, how laughable yogi . But see what you want to see.
The names Morris.;)

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yogii Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 10:56am

Not a slur - it was fair question.

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 9:20am

Given to me - was a birthday present. I asked Chris if it was OK to do a review as he had no idea beforehand and I get the feeling he's not the kind of fellow who puts his work out there that way.

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wellymon Wednesday, 24 Jun 2015 at 11:52pm

How wide, how thick Stu?
The nose has real asymmetrical shape, with the tail being symmetrically pointy for those big waves;)
Cool stuff.
Like.

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 10:41am

Hey Welly,

It's 5'8"/5'10" x 18 1/2 x 2 1/2 - 28.2 litres.

...and it's very cool.

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the-roller Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 8:56am

Is that craft as sic as or what?.. .

suggestion to the creator.... the only thing left for you to do is to get this cat to do a solid review/vid.

Yew!

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hovercraft Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 9:55am

double thumbs up on the ryan birch stuff...

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saltman Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 11:58am

Assymetrics make a lot of sense to me as a surfer
The fact they don't lend themselves easily to mass production and sales - (that is there is extra work involved and you would have a model for goofy and naturals ) provides another opportunity for the more involved shaper to differentiate himself

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ACB__ Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 1:29pm

What happens if you go left? Or a roundy when you're on that other, shorter rail?? Is it hard to draw it out or is it too snappy?

My view is while having different boards for different conditions is necessary, I think having different boards for different directions on different waves is getting very picky and becoming a very expensive hobby!!

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 2:10pm

It's fine. I haven't had it out in big lefts but have caught plenty of beachie lefts up to, say, 5 foot and haven't had a problem. It's got a proclivity toward vertical on backside bottom turns because it wants to turn sharp. In driving waves I imagine it might lack the necessary down the line muscle. 

For the last month it's been the only board I've had in my car when hunting waves. Taken it out in anything and really enjoying it.

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 2:11pm
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udo Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 2:22pm

Time to play around with some Cdrive fins Stu.....youll get that drive but still be able to go vert.

Noticed Birch uses Lokbox system on some boards for a bit of fin adjustment.

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 2:22pm

You kidding me? I was just thinking about them this morning. Mind reader!

Fella lives at Manly I think, or at least he used to. I might buy a set.

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udo Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 2:25pm

Freshwater ...Troy.

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 2:27pm

Cool. Cheers Udo.

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banana Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 3:27pm

Asyms are great for something different. I've only had 2 surfs on mine so far; but love it already. Not High performance but super fun!
https://instagram.com/p/4HCUQ_TTi_/

Cop a bit of grief on the outline, just don't overthink it!!!

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stunet Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 3:29pm

Woah! Looks like it melted in the sun.

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Craig Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 3:45pm

Haha, how that's a bit more extreme :o

 

5'5 1/2" Wonky Donkey asym with a side cut by @hiltonfletcher #hiltonfletcher #asymmetrical #surfboard

A photo posted by boardporn (@boardporn) on

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Craig Thursday, 25 Jun 2015 at 3:47pm

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cory Friday, 26 Jun 2015 at 8:23pm

Chris Garrett is possibly Australia's most underrated shaper/designer... I love what he was doing with his finless boards a couple of years ago. Your a lucky man Stu!

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stunet Friday, 3 Jul 2015 at 12:30pm

Hydroflex currently have a very cool little vid on Carl Ekstrom gracing their FB page. Worth a watch for those curious:

 
Carl Ekstrom: Surfboard Designer

We are very fortunate to call Carl a friend and be able to work closely with him on Boards. Our First Signature Series board is with his Iconic Asymmetrical designFind out a bit more about Carl here.

Posted by Hydroflex Surfboards on Thursday, July 2, 2015
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stunet Monday, 6 Jul 2015 at 12:37pm

Vintage Surfboard Collector page on FB has a couple of cool photos of an AB asymm (Photos Kieran McKinnon):

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udo Monday, 6 Jul 2015 at 7:47pm

Swaylocks , general discussion pg 2 has a bit on assym fins and placement.

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udo Thursday, 16 Jul 2015 at 7:05pm

Stu ,Brutus has been using C-drives in his assym Quad..
MC surfboards instagram
ride report Brutus ?

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stunet Thursday, 16 Jul 2015 at 7:09pm

Yeah I contacted Troy but he doesn't have any quad sets at the moment, says he'll have some later in the year. I'll buy and test a set then.

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udo Thursday, 16 Jul 2015 at 7:15pm

October I think.............made offshore ?.....surely not...I hope not.

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caml Thursday, 16 Jul 2015 at 11:50pm

Hes looking 4 em 4

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caml Thursday, 16 Jul 2015 at 11:51pm

Get a thruster set then

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caml Friday, 17 Jul 2015 at 12:03am

And use some 3.75 quad rear fins & hey presto it frips

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udo Tuesday, 6 Oct 2015 at 4:12pm

Not a asymm but a wild looking little 5'5 Chris Garrett 'Phantom' on ebay .

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stunet Tuesday, 6 Oct 2015 at 4:24pm

Wicked looking board! If I had some spare coin I'd snappy that puppy up pronto...

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ACB__ Tuesday, 6 Oct 2015 at 5:02pm

That'd be the best summer board ever. nice and wide and thick. I love my swallow tails.

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stunet Tuesday, 6 Oct 2015 at 4:37pm

Dale Wilson keeping the Byrning Spears assym tradition alive:

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udo Monday, 26 Oct 2015 at 6:47pm

@donaldbrink insta for some more assyms and Very different bottom contours.

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udo Friday, 29 Jan 2016 at 4:18pm

Shape shifter surfboards - pintail to squash to swallow to assymetrical