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When will humans actually stand up and call this crap out. Religion is a whole lot of money laundering brain washing shitfuckery, right in front of our eyes, but somehow we just subscribe and let it roll. Biggest disappointment in my lifetime of the human race. I lose all faith because of it.


Thank goodness for you @tearymasseuse.
Always.


;)


The Pope vs an Atheist
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haha shit eh brilliant @TS.
I'm so bummed at myself (again) for getting riled up about imaginary figureheads.
Happens everytime they're thust on my personal mental, spiritual and physical space...which i guess was my point.
Thou shalt not argue about thy boogie man!!
Peace.
Great vids lads.


The comments are a crack up , one said “ what a time to be alive, thank you Jesus “


southernraw wrote:Sorry Jeffrey. There's no good ones. Just lost souls.
Like all things religion.
And if this offends any religious types.
Goodo.
Your religions offend me a whole lot more. Dogma...cancer....
Note: Nothing at all against one's personal beliefs. Have my own. Hugely opposed to any need to form a group to defend, oppose or push ones beliefs. How have humans dropped the ball on this for the last..however many years.
Evolved species my arse. We're still celebrating Santa and rudolph and the like.
Is Santa left wing also Jeffrey??
So you can’t differentiate between a right wing pope preaching division and Trumpism
to 1.4 billion people worldwide
And a left wing pope preaching peace in Gaza and Ukraine , and compassion to the poor downtrodden of this world , to 1.4 billion people worldwide .
I didn’t think you would be so intoleranty
unsympathetic.
And b t w , I’m not religious, just open minded enough to see what’s better and what’s worse for the planet.


southernraw wrote:Sorry Jeffrey. There's no good ones. Just lost souls.
Like all things religion.
And if this offends any religious types.
Goodo.
Your religions offend me a whole lot more. Dogma...cancer....
Note: Nothing at all against one's personal beliefs. Have my own. Hugely opposed to any need to form a group to defend, oppose or push ones beliefs. How have humans dropped the ball on this for the last..however many years.
Evolved species my arse. We're still celebrating Santa and rudolph and the like.
Is Santa left wing also Jeffrey??
man, go somewhere like Isle of Iona, and you look at the church building ruins, walk inside the restorations, feel the close space, think on the hardship chosen and the faith in humanity.. the righteous dudes who thunk real hard and did their best with no real knowledge that wasn't basically ripped from common sense and earlier wisdoms and superstition..
you close your eyes and imagine people who lived through the plague, who went looking for answers.. and people that just wanted solidarity and a common purpose and safety.. and you look back to the crumbling stone walls and re-read the passage in your handbook about the viking raids..
and just when you think you understand a bit of that link in your past, what they went through..
A loud voice squawks into your ear, in a Californian accent
"Hiya! Feel free to explore.. we're a living community here, over there is the vegetables we grow, they're for sale if you like, and Janet.. Hiiiieeee! She's a doll.. Janet.. she's a wicked spinner.. her skeins are in the gift shop over there.. I make the shell mobiles.. they're not much, I like making them, please come and say hi when you've finished your tour. We're so proud that we are a living worship community here.."
Absolutely disgusting. Like someone taking a dump on top of the great pyramid.


As i've already said lads, the fact we're even in robust and argument about imaginary deities and the history of humans unflappable belief in them, is the saddest indictment on the intelligence of human beings.
I shouldn't be the one proving to you that religion is right and i should agree with you,..you should have a 100percent convincing argument, with scientific evidence, empirical evidence and first hand truth to prove why religion is the truth and it's why human suffering has been without doubt, mostly linked to religion from past to present.
How much better or worse off would we be as humans without religion.
Remove religion and whats left?
Yep, i thought so.
I'm not one to dump on any religion until it dumps on me. Isn't it interesting how much backlash the Australian population currently has against welcome to country at sporting events, a celebration of indigenous 'religous' beliefs, yet when the news cycle propaganda is pope pope pope, catholic catholic catholc, not a single white Aussie bats an eyelid. All G!




You’re the one debating with yourself about the scientific evidence , daeties
When the real issue is, is it better for the
1.4 billion believers , to have a good pope preaching tolerance and peace in Gaza
Or a bad divisive pope , bought by MAGA. ?
Can you differentiate there


southernraw wrote:Sorry Jeffrey. There's no good ones. Just lost souls.
Like all things religion.
And if this offends any religious types.
Goodo.
Your religions offend me a whole lot more. Dogma...cancer....
Note: Nothing at all against one's personal beliefs. Have my own. Hugely opposed to any need to form a group to defend, oppose or push ones beliefs. How have humans dropped the ball on this for the last..however many years.
Evolved species my arse. We're still celebrating Santa and rudolph and the like.
Is Santa left wing also Jeffrey??


tearymasseuse wrote:youtu.be/elBOBEfg2tU?si=0EKCl_Ora39f2bHJ
yep funny but pissweak agreed.
Always the way on SN.
Crew chip in but never commit.
PW JF.


Keep the lads club lads lads.
Fuck religion!
Gawd Bless yas.


I'm sure religion isn't the problem.
Continue on with your frivolous debates about all things world problems.


to be fair @sr, we're still in a new zone.. there's a bunch of cultures who are sociologically where the UK was in the Victorian era, we're yelling at them with bikinis, mcdonalds and tariffs rather that our supposably more substantial western pillars. and there's understandable resistance. They still have guff to shed too. Shed it too quick and you get right wing nationalism where once stood dude-on-cloud worship.
WE ARE in the predicted IBM 1984 era..
natural selection and evolution theory is not even 200 years old,
tectonic plate theory was developed in the 1960s..
'angels being real' is a thing for a long time yet.
babes in the woods, still, we are.


MmmmHmmm..... Homo Sapiens.... 200,000 years old (and pretty cute, too! jus look at gsco!)...... Sharks.... 418 million years old.


pfft. Get a reverse god up ya @base and anyone who even slightly defends this outrageous criminal institution.


And remember folks, nothing against personal spiritual beliefs. Just the institutions that prey on the weak and vulnerable and capitalize on it. Fuck em and big time fuck you if you support that shit. Scourge of humanity.


wax24 wrote:MmmmHmmm..... Homo Sapiens.... 200,000 years old (and pretty cute, too! jus look at gsco!)...... Sharks.... 418 million years old.
Maybe we should worship sharks.. no, not worship, but respect.. call it a totem.
And maybe not all of us should have sharks as a totem?
Lots of animals work in pure harmony with their surrounds..
Maybe different totem animals for different regions,
animals you share the seasons and life cycles with..?
Perhaps this can be a totem animal you share with your extended family..
and actually identify with as a human - the imagination and engagement!!?
sorry.. crazy talk. We'll never be that evolved.
(@sr, fuck off cunt, you haven't read a single word I've said properly,
maybe you're part of the problem ; )


Problem is it’s so easy to logically disprove
religion and Santa
That people go around informing everyone and thinking how intelligent they are,
While showing no respect for others belief system,
We should all turn up at Walmart next Christmas and start yelling abuse and harassment at Santa and the little beleivers
lining up for their gifts
With righteous indignation!


IBM 1984 all the way to the gates of hell and back to the future of heavenly planetary judeo christian muslim interconnected creationary evolutionary devotional subliminal and spiritual emotional land of freedommmmm yeah
& make sharks great again !
?si=di3eIH-S4ywi_nhO

basesix wrote:wax24 wrote:MmmmHmmm..... Homo Sapiens.... 200,000 years old (and pretty cute, too! jus look at gsco!)...... Sharks.... 418 million years old.
Maybe we should worship sharks.. no, not worship, but respect.. call it a totem.
And maybe not all of us should have sharks as a totem?
Lots of animals work in pure harmony with their surrounds..Maybe different totem animals for different regions,
animals you share the seasons and life cycles with..?Perhaps this can be a totem animal you share with your extended family..
and actually identify with as a human - the imagination and engagement!!?sorry.. crazy talk. We'll never be that evolved.
(@sr, fuck off cunt, you haven't read a single word I've said properly,
maybe you're part of the problem ; )
I'd need a decoder to read your posts properly @base.
Would be much simpler if you wrote it in English.
Then you'd get a reasoned reply.
Cryptic talk is avoidance and fence sitting.
Just fucken say what you wanna say .....cunt.


haha.. just posting here dude.. not trying to be part of any faction.
I have had an indulgent sunday on this thread.. soz.
busy week this week, catch you if the comps on,
but defs next weekend. Turning on again here.
Hope you get into it. Peace : )


I quite like base6 incomprehensible logic,
It shows individual creative independence
Or something?


I quite like base6 incomprehensible logic,
It shows individual creative independence
Or something?


& to honour the religiously inspired musings of southernbase and the collective aspirations of westernmost values regarding mutual and beneficial application of love to thy neighbour and thine enemy in equal ;)


Yeah fair enough, but prove to me religion has a rightful place in our society.
It's a scourge on society.
I raised a valid point about the Aboriginal welcome to country being met with hostility by a large majority of white Australians, yet, the mainstream media flexes pope and catholic talk all over its bulletins 24/7, without backlash from white Australians, yet no one has even dared address that point of my posts.
You wanna debate? Start with that.
Why the fuck is religion thrust (especially in the catholic version of the word) down my throat in my everyday what i'm expected to consume as an Aussie existence.
Get farked if thats acceptable in this or any other lifetime.
Question this shit @base. You know i respect your mind big time.
Even if i can't understand it half the time. That's part of the beauty.
But fark this b.s. Religion as an institution that controls so much of our society needs to be held to account but no one's talking about it. Meanwhile....don't dare blow a didgie D at the G! Fark me. Am i living in some kind of parallel universe here? Seems a set up. How can crew not see the obvious and not call it out. I thought we were evolved species, especially the surfing community.
Full respect to each and everyones spiritual beliefs and their need to share it.
Just not the institutions that prey on that.


Fwiw @base, i reckon we'd have great chats one on one, probably get the shits with each other, call each other c#nts, and then play darts and agree to disagree on certain points. Certainly nothing personal my friend.


U may even smoke a few darts and hopefully not release any sharts
Oh… and worship sharks
(Remember… they was saved on an ark faaaaaaaark)
;)


Martin Potter, circa late 80s...."i see a lip and i just want to hit it".
Always been my favourite line in surfing, along with Simon Andersons, "No image, that's my image".


Nah, Base...... we'd end up at war over our Regional Tokens


tearymasseuse wrote:U may even smoke a few darts and hopefully not release any sharts
Oh… and worship sharks
(Remember… they was saved on an ark faaaaaaaark);)
youtube.com/watch?v=eOi9ipB5yo0
ha geez JF ya always provide the best laughs....even when they're at me.
Cheers.


course we would mate.
and i'll rein in the blather.
fair cop.. didn't know it was so incomprehensible,
kind of pointless even talking if that's the case, no?
catch you on the flipside, biyatch : )


Just don't be pussies.
If ya got something to say, say it.
That's all.


no worries mate.. love ya mate..
you gotta ride..? Jonno's heading your way I reckon..
(I think I'll decide what I say and how I say it till I die, so help me dog)


haha there ya go, Love your work and your epic mind
It's a highlight of my swellnet browsing. Wasn't so much aimed at you, just the general over rationalization that goes on in these space without grabbing the bull by the horns and really letting it rip. Thats how i see society. Too much at stake for most crew to really step into that dangerous and vulnerable place where you risk isolation and being rejected by your herd. But fuck it i say. Humans are just a tiny part of what makes up my experience on this planet. And most of the planet doesn't give a fuck about humans...although they should...sadly.
Not sure i'll got to Margs still. Will wait til the 11th hour. Lots of moving parts,....for example life here...
Its' gonna b big. Problem is its' arrival is through the night.
Guessing big big , hectic step ladder sets mid to late Wednesday, and still pretty big, Thurs. But can't see it lasting too long so the arse might drop out of it after its peak, whenever that is, most likely Wednesday night.
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Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank