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I guess tastes change as we get older. My lad, 20, listens to JJJ, is keen on seeing bands I feel are ho hum, but it floats his boat. Each generation wants to be different from those who came before. The kids are alright and deserve the chance to do whatever they want, like we did.
Anyways, some chill out Americana is floating my boat after a fun surf on a beautiful autumn day down here in the semi colon of Aus.
Grant Lee Buffalo was great, had a couple of good albums back in the day.
Throwing Muses took up a lot of airtime in my car in the early 90's.
Same same. From Kristen Hersh's first solo album.
Hard to go past Belly too...
Blackers - whatever the kids are into, that's just how it's going to be, fashion comes and goes. I find that there's a surprising amount of kids who have great taste in music, including jazz and big band (parental influence no doubt).
But it really does seem that JJJ are missing something, they must be if they're haemorrhaging their target audience the way they are.
Where do people find out about new music these days? Is there any other way, other than social media algorithms?
I really miss having a couple of street mag reviewers I trusted to point me in the right direction of worthy new releases. Or the guys at the local record store telling about some obscure band I needed to know about. Or the dingy pub who only ever booked the most interesting touring bands from interstate and overseas, so I was guaranteed to have a good night out.
I reckon the highest rotation on my CD player (and my CD-to-tape adapter in the car) around '92-'94 were this mob.
thermalben wrote:Where do people find out about new music these days? Is there any other way, other than social media algorithms?
I really miss having a couple of street mag reviewers I trusted to point me in the right direction of worthy new releases. Or the guys at the local record store telling about some obscure band I needed to know about. Or the dingy pub who only ever booked the most interesting touring bands from interstate and overseas, so I was guaranteed to have a good night out.
On one hand it feels like there's so much out there but on the other hand it feels like a massive void.
Totally. A billion songs available at my fingertips via Spotify and I keep rotating the same twenty albums from my yoof.
Songs of our youth have carved deep grooves in our souls and memory banks. New songs just don't fit the grooves.
But there is more to it than just that. It ain't just getting older. Rick Beato tells us why the good old days are really a thing - he knows his stuff.
Man, well that's it, full circle. A page a month for a dozen years.
Sorry we couldn't help @thermalben ; )
(street press is back in adelaide, citymag, the note... https://www.thenote.com.au/
- the note even dedicated half an issue to rip it up and rob dunstan last year,
how are other cities going with hard-copy street press reimaginings?)
Personally, I still listen to all the classics but I rarely listen to the favourites of my youth, they had their moment and I'd prefer to let them go, hence not listening to JJ.
I'm still exploring music and finding great stuff regularly on Spotify but apart from electronic stuff it's all old. But if I haven't heard it before it's all new anyway.
Like Fela Kuti.
Only discovered him about five or six years ago and with the size of his back catalogue that kept me going for quite a while.
So I keep digging for stuff like that, whatever it is.
Dig through genres or periods of time or whatever.
But when recent bands are "from a particular genre" I usually feel like it's all been done before, and better, with more authenticity and passion.
I don't over listen to my old favourites. A treat every now and then. Jump around between artists with no plan or habit of constant music being on. They are precious. I want them fresh, not stale from repetition.
No spotify for me. Makes it all too accessible.
Silence / no music can be good.
Every now and then a more current voice or song will cut through and strike that special groove my brain seems to want. So there is stuff to explore. Just not always the time or inclination.
There is also the thing on being the first time something has been done that gives authenticity and vibe. That opportunity ran out in the 1990's.
Interesting vids Frog.
Ive honestly given up on trying to get into new music and just accepted that ive gotten old, im so stuck in the mid 80s to mid 00' period mostly 90s, but im now digging through the stuff that i missed from this era, and im finding really good stuff i missed or maybe didn't give a fair go, my taste has also expanded so stuff i thoght I didnt like i now do like some of it, so sometimes you have to give things another go.
I like just mixing in half a dozen songs from bands i never got into or overlooked in a spotify mix with songs i already love and i then often find myself craving those new old songs and wanting more from that artist.
The past is nice but not all. You can use the algorithms to help find new stuff, follow some of the suggestions, type in random genres, fuck with it. A bit of internet radio, read reviews, Shazam always at the ready. Also just rock up to a venue and see whats happening. Lotsa stuff.
Must admit, I feel overwhelmed walking into a bookstore. Couldn't even think where to start these days.
I reckon don't be afraid to expand your horizons, go beyond what you grew up with.
Some big band stuff from the 30's rocks as hard as most things you can imagine while good jazz can take you to special places.
There's rockabilly, psychadelic rock, progressive house, latin jazz, afrobeat....
Heaps to explore.
I think I've posted this before...if you're stuck on a genre and want more of the same try music match.
https://www.music-map.com/freak+slug
I found these guys on there and had them on high rotation for a while. Might be a hard sell, but I like the kind of ethereal melody in this and some of their other songs. Good to listen to if feeling mellow. Feel a little like a creepy uncle posting the video though.
Didn't mind that at all, icd.
Have to admit that i have a thing for girl bands...from the 60s all the way through to now-ish.
Creepy uncle???
Yeah i get that, but hey, i really do like the music.
One of my favourites, Giant Drag/Annie Hardy. Some dark stuff/issues in there but...
Just enjoy the music.
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g'day basesix - no mate, no Guinea Fowl yet. Just been distracted keeping the place in order, with all the wet weather and abundant growth on everything just keeping up has been difficult without taking on an extra responsibility. Plus, the neighbour's flock of them has been wandering through my place quite a bit, so have been happy with that for now, And thankfully, no major tick bites lately... but that's for another thread
Tunes - nice description of the ZZZ market days AndyM - that sums it up pretty well. Yes, some darkness and danger in them back then, but that was also part of the excitement and adventure. On the 'horse charge' one, I see a zzz history researcher is doing some investigating into it, wanting first-hand accounts of peoples' experiences. I saw a link in one of their weekly email newsletters I get. Had thought about giving some feedback, but my experience was also very blurred by the acid... and bongs and cheap VBs. Just know it was total chaos and I felt lucky not to have been run over by a panicked horse. I do recall throwing a can at the cop on the horse and scoring a direct hit though, so felt I got some payback for the average punter, before fleeing
still loving this thread with all the cool tunes suggested - thanks everyone. Have enjoyed some of the mellower ones thrown up recently. My offering on that is Mess Esque - here's a cool tune off a great self-titled album. Good background sounds, shagging tunes perhaps...
something I've been enjoying over the last year is attending the local town's Acoustic Night - open stage, anyone can put their name up on the board, and we get 2 songs from each performer. Very family friendly, and random, some weirdness amongst it, but some very talented young musos testing themselves out, and sometimes very experienced ones, drifter types, that might be passing through the area and stun the crowd with some great tunes. Had an 80'something fella perform recently who had toured with Loius Armstrong back in the day, he had an OBE for his music efforts. Great stuff.
finally, for now, I've also had this on in the background of recent times - it's been a bumper mushie season!
I dont want to be all hipster like but i swear my ears just warm more to the analogue sound compared to digital produced music especially when they use things like autotune, it takes away a natural human element, even slight imperfection is sometimes a good thing.
Autotune is an abomination.
how funny was it when earthy ol' justin vernon played about with autotune and made something quite cool?
basesix wrote:Man, well that's it, full circle. A page a month for a dozen years.
Sorry we couldn't help @thermalben ;
I meant to credit you with this one basesix. Great work, you have summed up the internet.
R00ney wrote:Didn't mind that at all, icd.
Have to admit that i have a thing for girl bands...from the 60s all the way through to now-ish.
Creepy uncle???
Yeah i get that, but hey, i really do like the music.
One of my favourites, Giant Drag/Annie Hardy. Some dark stuff/issues in there but...
Just enjoy the music.
Cheers ROOney. Had a quick listen - I'll definitely dig a bit deeper.
indo-dreaming wrote:I dont want to be all hipster like but i swear my ears just warm more to the analogue sound compared to digital produced music especially when they use things like autotune, it takes away a natural human element, even slight imperfection is sometimes a good thing.
AndyM wrote:Autotune is an abomination.
basesix wrote:how funny was it when earthy ol' justin vernon played about with autotune and made something quite cool?
It's all just sound - no matter how it's made...if it makes you feel something -good, bad, happy or sad, it's fine.
That Bon Iver's tune reminded me of this one.
"It's all just sound"
I expect there's a lot more to it than just that.
"nice description of the ZZZ market days AndyM - that sums it up pretty well. Yes, some darkness and danger in them back then, but that was also part of the excitement and adventure. On the 'horse charge' one, I see a zzz history researcher is doing some investigating into it, wanting first-hand accounts of peoples' experiences. I saw a link in one of their weekly email newsletters I get. Had thought about giving some feedback, but my experience was also very blurred by the acid... and bongs and cheap VBs. Just know it was total chaos and I felt lucky not to have been run over by a panicked horse. I do recall throwing a can at the cop on the horse and scoring a direct hit though, so felt I got some payback for the average punter, before fleeing"
You should give some feedback Greenjam, they were very interesting times and Zed was right in the thick of it.
I suppose every city has its lo-fi public radio station but when you put it in the context of Bjelke-Peterson's Queensland, Zed was something else again.
Truly subversive and with some real effect.
As for the Musgrave Park market day, I wasn't too worried about the fires, it was pretty harmless.
But I wasn't too keen to wear a truncheon around the back of the head so when the cops showed up I sat up on the embankment up near Russel St and watched the show.
You should give some feedback
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AndyM wrote:"It's all just sound"
I expect there's a lot more to it than just that.
Maybe so. Depends. A magpie warbling can be musical. I listened to a guy drumming garbage cans at Southbank this week. A duo soothed my hungover brain at a country fete a couple of weekends ago - one on acoustic / the other on a resonator. How is autotune any more an abomination than electrifying any other instrument? My point is that many sounds can be construed as music - whether you like it or not is relative and subjective.
For the record, I like You AM I.....
I'm talking about cultural influence etc.
For example, people would have laughed themselves sick at autotune 30 years ago.
So what's changed?
Fashion, trends, advertising, convincing people what they like and what they want.
It certainly doesn't mean they don't like it, quite the contrary.
But to say that it's just "sound" misses a huge part of the equation.
thermalben wrote:Where do people find out about new music these days? Is there any other way, other than social media algorithms?
I really miss having a couple of street mag reviewers I trusted to point me in the right direction of worthy new releases. Or the guys at the local record store telling about some obscure band I needed to know about. Or the dingy pub who only ever booked the most interesting touring bands from interstate and overseas, so I was guaranteed to have a good night out.
I spend a significant amount of time on the quest for new music. This includes tunes being released in the present day but also looking for gold that I may have overlooked in the past.
I tend to follow quite a few blogs/sites and podcasts that cover the genres I'm interested in. I always look for name drops, references, etc. and then follow up online. If it grabs me I will pursue it further, if not I will move on. I run iTunes but I don't just randomly stream stuff...it's always listening with intent.
What blogs and podcast, you follow for music?
@indo - not wanting to sound dismissive but probably only relevant if you like music of the heavier kind (metal, punk/hc and the numerous sub genres contained within).
Having said that, I have found some great stuff on this blog: https://aftersabbath.blogspot.com/
"HARD ROCK, PROTO-METAL, PROTO-DOOM, STONER ROCK & HEAVY PROG/PSYCH OBSCURITIES OF THE '60S AND '70S."
The bloke who runs this blog does a great job of digging up obscurities from around the world. He has knocked together a couple of good Aussie compilations too:
https://aftersabbath.blogspot.com/2010/05/day-after-sabbath-21-uluru-roc...
https://aftersabbath.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-day-after-sabbath-80-goodb...
The 2%ers triumph at Bells. At the other end of the spectrum are the 10%ers
Oh yes, nice one
As I get older and reflect on this classic, I enjoy the simplicity of life and the era in which the best music was written
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Continuing the theme from before, exceptionally good use of a hovercraft in a music video:
^ aww, mixed memories @vj, my best mate's favourite song, but he ignored me for a week because when FB played at the Synagogue in Adelaide, I got passed onto the stage after a dive, and banged into the mic stand while FB was singing and he stopped the song and went to the next one : (
my fave LA song:
Let's keep it Frank.
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Supafreak. Hi mate. Some good songs there for sure, timeless.AW
@basesix I reckon I was at that FB gig. Can’t remember a great deal, though the internet says Custard opened.. so much have been a great night! (what a great venue the Synagogue was too!).
^ incredible venue, kinda picked up where the tivoli left off, amazing when there were gigs at the madlove and synagogue on the same night and you knew people on the door(s)!
(the mate in question was a certain bass player from career girls ; )
reckon it was the beginning of summer and this tape was stuck in my car
Just over 10 years since this masterpiece was released. Still a firm favourite!
Alright, time for some discussion on what yr all listening too. My iTunes inventory is getting a little stale so I'm up for some inspiration.
Currently loving The Drones' album "Havilah".. incredible songwriting and some of the best recorded guitars and drum I've heard in a long time. I'm a little late to the party with this album but it's on high rotation at the moment and will probably stay there a while. I've seen these guys live once (Fowlers, Adelaide) and fortunately they're incredible on stage too. Can't wait to see them again.