Skin Cancer

Great idea for a thread Sheepdog. To be honest those couple of paragraphs and a few photos have had a bigger impact on me than a decade of slip, slop , slap propaganda . I actually am one of those idiots that still revels in the feeling of sun on my skin.

I smother zinc on my face but only cause that's where I burn. I'll surf without a shirt on for hours.

I think it was the bit about dreaming of backlit waves and the anxiety about pimples, nah it was all of it, that shit is full on. Your the only surfer I've talked to that's had melanoma strange as it may sound,
Seems a lot less abstract when someone that has the same innocent desire as yourself to play in the sea has to become a sun dodging vampire.

What's the story mate, will you ever get the all clear and be able to let the guard down a bit ?

SD, after that first photo, I had one reoccurring like, same position on the lip, for about 8months.
Went to the Doc got it cut out straight away. 26mm x 15mm wide, 'V shape'
Went to pathologist, no sign of cancer.

Why Aldara mate......? For warts....?

Fucken hell man, that's hard core...I've re-posted the link to your story on a couple of other sites, not surfing but radio control forums. I've seen too many blokes standing around all day under a red hot sun with no protection, faces getting fried to a crisp. They do this weekend after weekend without a thought to the possible damage being done. Hopefully this will give some of em a wake up call.

Good mate of mine was misdiagnosed 20 yrs ago, as a 20 yr old with melanoma. When they finally realised they'd got it wrong it was almost a death sentence, pulled through by the skin of his teeth. He ended up with a large payout cause of the fuckup, small consolation as he lives an existance of constant bodily disrepair.

Man, I gotta say how dissapointed I am with some humans. One site I posted on, first reply was along the lines of "sure it's not herpes". How the fuck could anyone read ya story, see your photos and think that ya playing us?

Far out sheepie....
I feel like a pack a day smoker looking at the pictures on a ciggie pack...
Hope things are on the up and up for you, and cheers for the timely reminder.

Sheepy, I'm kind of lost for words for a change.

I'm glad you're pulling through and wish you all the best. It must have been tough but thanks for putting this up.

I've enjoyed your posts and also how you've engaged the big fella. He's been a bit quiet lately;)

Hi s/d
i read your story and i for one will be taking way more care with applying sun screen and zinc in future before going surfing , thanks for the posts and i hope that you will be ok in the end .

cheers
mark

Who have you engaged Sheepio....?
What big fella....!

Good post Sheepy, I've learned more about skin cancer in the last 5 minutes than the last 5 years combined. You should be a spokesman for the Australian Cancer Council. Definitely got me thinking as I love to brown up on the rare occasions that I'm able. I try and do it sensibly but I guess now there's no sensible way.

Welly ya numb-nut, I was talking about that big boof head Uplift. I think he's a bit wary of Towman too;)

Thanks for your efforts Sheepdog. Same as Zen in that I've learnt more from this thread than all combined knowledge I had on the subject previously. It's a fucking worry.

Would you consider wearing the Valerie Taylor full body Lycra suit , resplendent with full face balaclava and gloves ? You'd still look more human than Zen in his mid winter survival suit.

At least you would be out there.

good to see that Mr C is getting some exposure...pardon the pun.....

If everybody would/could understand that all of us have cancer cells,and its what triggers them into action that is different from from most diseases........

we all carry cancer cells, so be careful with stress, bad diet,sun.........we all have different triggers.mine was stress and bad diet.....and guys if ya over 40 get a simple PSA test to see if you have prostate cancer...be proactive with any and all blemish's on the skin......

be pro-active not reactive,,,

'We all carry cancer cells'

Thats's not correct. We all have genes, and DNA that can cause cancer, by mutating cells.

And no one really knows why genes mutate. Bruce Lipton's work with genes/dna is interesting, but it flies in the face of contemporary science, with all the connotations that means.

Gidday zeno, having seen this, I can't believe I've wasted time listening to the dawg yappin' and callin' about diet, health, fitness, muscles, log chopping, mental states, you name it. Brutuseless is a health and fitness, and muscles expert too. It seems the less you have, the more you know. Hey, that's surfees for ya!

As for swelling, I will not engage with, or be seen as the bully picking on a poor wimp that was publically owned by this.

Not joking about cancer, I've surfed for close to fifty years, and anyone that knows me knows I don't like sun block. Sometimes I'd surf blacks from dawn to dusk. Bricky and I used to have contests who could stay out all day, regularly. One of my friends is a leading skin cancer specialist, always saying I'll get it, because he did, despite wearing every sun protector ever invented. But then, he was the doctor with the fucked back that my mate fixed also, and according to him, I was supposedly going to be crippled from lifting weights when I was forty. And the 2 dozen eggs a day was going to kill me too. The truth actually is dawg, no one does know why the gene/dna mutates, and causes cancer. You showed enough from the lips down in the photo's for my assessment re health and fitness. Maybe you should be much more interested in fitness, and muscles. Unless you use drugs, muscles only grow and repair optimally when you are thriving.

Good work Sheepio, when you have so many doctors and specialist appointments, you end up taking their own info and corresponding it to your own body, ie YOU. which probably helps... eh !
Looking at the photos tho, fuck pretty intense champ, it looks like you might be in the realm of a dying bred of the Ranga's though.....! Is that correct.. Keep covered but not inside playing XBox :)

zenagain wrote:

Welly ya numb-nut, I was talking about that big boof head Uplift. I think he's a bit wary of Towman too;)

Derrrrrrr, I thought so... Was just checking :), Uppity has a good sense of humor, which I think is so sarcastic people don't realise....! I like it sometimes, its out there, which makes every one different.

uplift wrote:

As for swelling, I will not engage with, or be seen as the bully picking on a poor wimp that was publically owned by this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev1jnjaclrI

Classic Uppity, I like it.

50 X 365.25 X 12 eggs = 219,150 eggs

50 X 365.25 X 12 eggs = 219,150 eggs

So much for the accepted, 'scientific' cholesterol crap!

And for the record, I don't wish cancer on anyone, and karma is just another mind game. You buy it, you got it.

Lester Levenson's story is good dawg. Out of print though, but you can read it online.

Nah, you need more muscles. Muscles fixes everything.
http://www.imnotobsessed.com/wp-content/uploads/FFN_JohnsonDwayne_FilmSe...

Sheepdog wrote:

Uplift. Best you man up..... Your first post was an obvious tongue in cheek jibe about cancer, and the fact that I have had cancer..... Man up, mate..... And now we have you turning a serious conversation about cancer into the "uplift show"..... Not your finest work.....
Firstly, Queensland has the highest rate of skin cancer in the world.... Fact.....In Australia, South Australia and Victoria have the lowest rates.....Fact....... I'm not gonna waste my time explaining why this is.. You're a smart chap... I'm sure you know the answer.... If you don't, fuckn think about it during the next 6 cold months when you wear a wettie and face away from a sun that has retreated into the northern sky.....

Secondly, for you to make a sweeping assessment on photo's when someone is undergoing a cancer treatment is ridiculous.... In fact, it's an insult to your own intelligence.....In the previous months before the photos, I had undergone a battle with melanoma, with all it entailed... I was already weakened..... I then was diagnosed with Bcc on my lips and had to undergo aldara therapy.... You can see a marked change from photo 1 to photo 3 as my immune system struggled to deal with the poison/medicine. Note change in skin tone and swollen rashed lymph glands in neck photo 3, all known side effects of aldara.... .....
Next you will be off to the Adelaide hospital telling people on chemo, "gee, I assess that your not fit".... Ummm well derr!!!!!!!

ps - I will check Lester out..... And btw, yeah used to party a bit back in the 80/ early 90s.... But believe it or not, gave up drinking .... gee..... 14 years ago???. New millenium ......yeah... haven't smoked pot for hmmm.. 12 years.... Wasn't a big bong head, except maybe for a period in my early 20s.... Scaled back heaps as I got older, and when they brought in drug driving tests I just stopped.... Still smoke a few rollies.... And drink too much coffee......

Knew you'd go for the poor, attacked me, victim angle dawg. And like I said, no one knows what causes the gene/DNA to mutate.

oh, here we go. fucking expert on cancer now too. "only the weak get cancer im really tough and eat heaps of eggs and have competitions with people to see who can stay out in the sun the longest without putting on sunscreen, I won of course and I also won the competition to see could suck off toddy archer the best. he said I was way better than holmer and the other newies"
hey sheepdawg, pretty sure upsy daisy also made some pretty low comments about or towards Maurice a while ago when he was openly talking about cancer. deadest fuckwit.

^dead set fuckwit. bloody autospell

You either want to discuss cancer, or you don't. Despite all the theories and speculation, no one knows why genes/dna mutate and cause cancer. Some people get it doing everything supposedly 'right', some don't get it doing everything supposedly 'wrong'. In a way its like eggs, once blamed for sugar's issues. Turned out to be bullshit. Talk about eating eggs, fat and cholesterol, and people with issues in that area cause themselves to be upset. Even those that don't do. Vitamin D defiency has reached epidemic levels. Vitamin D plays a huge role in gene/dna function, and hormone regulation, and its deficiency has been identified with many cancers. The main source of vitamin d production is the sun. Again, no one knows why genes/dna mutate and cause cancer.

And you are right dawg, what you think of me means nothing, what I think of me is what counts.

Have another snort groges.

Stephen Hawking's might know in a couple of years...?

'Stephen Hawking's might know in a couple of years...?'

God help him.

uplift wrote:

And the 2 dozen eggs a day was going to kill me too

uplift wrote:

50 X 365.25 X 12 eggs = 219,150 eggs

So much for the accepted, 'scientific' cholesterol crap!

And for the record, I don't wish cancer on anyone, and karma is just another mind game. You buy it, you got it.

hang on .... Uplift said ' 2 ' dozen eggs a day ...... 438,300 ...... ?

Sheepio ,
you wanna be careful with the " the suns at a lower azimath in higher lattitudes " description . due to the Ozone hole , Tassie in Winter is one of the worst places for singular burns . thats when it shows it self in between slow flurries ;-) .
For me , pure warmth of climate makes the hours spent in a year with exposed skin higher in places like Qld ....

also its very rare for any surf break in Oz to have a surfer facing the incoming swell and facing direct south ..... Most swells are born out of a little east or west of south , at the most extreme . Not too mention that the sun sets lower ( further south on the horizon in summer ) at higher lattitudes ...

Uplift , clearly you are coming back in the next life as a mere mortal . and most likely , still someones' bitch .

uplift,you don't have a clue on this one ,but ramble on anyway.......and if you think I don't have a little knowledge on cancer...its probably because of SIARGO......so...................

you wrote......that no-one carries cancer cells,and we all have genes and DNA that carry cancer........its actually the opposite....cancer lies dormant in all of us.....as our body makes defective cells all the time,and that's how tumors are born....

as for causes of cancer.....no-one knows claims uplift,when the facts tell a different story....that environment,diet,stress all contribute significantly to cancer becoming one of the fastest growing diseases on the planet ...........

be careful uplift with makin shit up on cancer as its pretty serious life shit...

So,.not sure you are in "our" club...and the knowledge that goes with treating and beating Mr C.....sheepdog seems to have some very good stats....and would be interesting to see how the Southern states rate of cancer must be increasing because of the hole in the Ozone that gets from Oct > April.........

if you want to debate your claims on cancer bring em on...but be prepared for a dose of humble pie..

yeah sheepdog,burning your body with UV rays so you can be.....ah not white,sure is good way to get cancer and that young lady who died from over exposure.....well ya reckon we'd learn.....ahhh

Brutuseless, so you are saying cells control genes and DNA? I didn't say anything like your ludicrous babble. Read fool. DNA/genes mutate causing cells to mutate. No one knows why. Your statement that we all carry cancer cells is made up rubbish. I have always taken life, which means cells, which includes health and fitness seriously, unlike you. I don't like that you were sick, but it doesn't make you an expert in health.

As long as I don't have to comeback as you soufle', surely God would not be so cruel, its too much to even think of for a second.

you wish uplift ... truth be known , they broke the mould when i was built . so no chance another .

besides , you'll be too busy scripting excuses on why you can't paddle out too surf earth shattering wash throughs at blax for the next few days . throw in next weekend for good measure too .

forecast is lookin better here by the minute , so I've got two days to fit 365 days worth of training into and still do more at my worst than you at your best ... ;-0

Apart from the slip slap slop message there's not much in the way of warning about the dangers of too much sun in Australia. Coming from the UK it's noticeable how many people have bits cut out of them or know someone who has had a scare but all summer people are surfing in just boardies, seems mental to me. Same at work, blokes working in the sun all day shirts off and going that scarlet/purple shade. Obviously making a big deal out of Australia having the highest rate of melanoma in the world doesn't look good in a brochure but by not hammering the message home i think there's a ticking timebomb in the making. Pretty sure Oz banned tanning shops a few months ago, wish UK would do the same, they get hammered there.

365.25 southey.... Leap year....!

Anyways, what is this GOD shit Uppity....? Spell it backwards please, then my little 'NINJAGIRL'(Jack Russell) that I keep in the glove box when venturing into national parks would be way happier. She can read you know.

"what I think of me is what counts" - narcissistic wanker.

"Have another snort groges." Oh no, you got the better of me again upsy daisy. No way I could ever compete against your level of intelligence.

A little reoccurring sore on my lip for 8 months, that would go away but come back after being in the sun surfing.....?
Saw a skin specialist from my good doctor who is a professor as well, cut out straight away, 11 stitches, sample straight to pathologist... clear. Get it early get good doctors :)

Oh yeah and had a prostrate examination, physical :) (lucky it was a lady doctor).
Get it done fellas. Simple as.

Bumchin Sheepio, Bumchin... Classic :)

Yep they got it all, It was such a little looking sore thingy, probably about 2-3mm in Dia, was pretty shocked when the skin specialist starting hacking a 26mm long by 15mm wide V shape piece out of my lip....?
He should of kept going down and stitched that butthole surfers chin together eh..?