The Israel Palestine problem solving thread

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stunet started the topic in Tuesday, 17 Oct 2023 at 10:45am

Because the world would be a better place if leaders only listened to Swellnet commenters, we've created a forum that makes it easy for them to gather our thoughts.

Today's shit talk is tomorrow's policy.

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andy-mac Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 9:24am
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Yo, soggydog, guysmiley, seeds, southernraw...the usual suspects...hitting new lows of toxicity over the weekend I see, and still trying to front for Hamas and rationalise its moves and spin the blame. Same old song, on repeat. Seriously, give it up, dudes.

And speaking of reruns. Hitchens always dropping wisdom bombs. He's on about the real deal behind Islamic terrorism. The Islamic terrorist playbook on repeat over hundreds of years. It's that simple:

https://twitter.com/buttonslives/status/1728504282477994124

Yo duuuude,
Being against the mass bombing and killing of Palestinian civilians doesn't make you a Hamas terrorist supporter.
Come on, that has been pointed out numerous times and you better check to see if you have the mind virus not to understand this simple point.

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green room Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 9:33am

Yo, andy-mac, chief Hamas supporter, there ain't no massive bombing and killing of civilians going down. It's all about wiping out Islamic terrorism in Gaza for good, you feel me? These terrorists are using innocent folks as pawns and human shields, the usual information war playbook.

If you're saying anything else, you're straight up justifying and backing up Hamas and Islamic terrorism, likely getting brainwashed by that Marxist vibe, like you've been doing in here. That's messed up, man.

Dude, give it up, idiot.

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andy-mac Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 9:34am
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Yo, andy-mac, chief Hamas supporter, there ain't no massive bombing and killing of civilians going down. It's all about wiping out Islamic terrorism in Gaza for good, you feel me? These terrorists are using innocent folks as pawns and human shields, the usual information war playbook.

If you're saying anything else, you're straight up justifying and backing up Hamas and Islamic terrorism, likely getting brainwashed by that Marxist vibe, like you've been doing in here. That's messed up, man.

Dude, give it up, idiot.

Yeah whatever dude.....

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Supafreak Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 10:22am

A very heated discussion , @greenroom , what’s your take on Miko Peled ? I don’t know much about him , just what googling his name shows . He’s got a very interesting background .

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indo-dreaming Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 12:15pm
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God how naive are some people here?

And sorry its not something ive just come up with its been talked about as a real possibility by people who actually know about this shit, it was mentioned in a recent Joe Rogan podcast with a guy involved in International security, hostage negotiations etc and been mentioned in other podcast

Its well documented that sex slavery is not unusual in the middle east and especially with Jihadist type groups and they get the girls of any age, any which way they can including kidnapping.

And According to the United Nations, there is an estimated 2.4 million people around the globe who are victims of human trafficking at any one time, 80% of whom are being exploited as sexual slaves.

And fuck me dead Soggy Dog, you are dead set wanker, you call me a troll, ive been contributing to this thread sharing updates and interesting info with no conflict with others, and then you come in here adding nothing to the conversation just stirring up shit, because you don't like people talking shit about your beloved Hamas because you are a terrorist loving piece of shit.

Anyway just a few examples from a basic google search of how realistic it is, in the middle east in particular with Jihadist groups like ISIS or Hamas etc and this is just the tip of the iceberg there is literally pages upon pages of this shit

"Reports say that many of the men taken hostage have been killed, while the women are being used as sex slaves. "
https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/10/israel-dispatch-war-is-officially-de...

"How Islamic State systematically turns girls into sex slaves"
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/islamic-state-systematically-turns-gir...

"Inside the Race to Rescue 2,000 Sex Slaves Still Held by ISIS"https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-02-09/ty-article-magazine/insid...

"Footage has emerged which appears to show the Islamic State group's horrific use of sex slaves as girls are separated from family members in another sickening act of cruelty."
https://www.newarab.com/news/harrowing-video-brings-light-sickening-sex-...

"How I escaped from Islamic State's sexual slavery"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-07/how-i-escaped-the-islamic-state-t...

"Why has the World Forgotten Islamic State's Female Sex Slaves?"
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/04/14/why-has-world-forgotten-islamic-stat...

"2023 Trafficking in Persons Report: Israel, West Bank and Gaza"
https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-trafficking-in-persons-report/israel/

Why would Hamas take hostages. What are they currently doing with the hostages? What is currently being negotiated and carried out. Women and children even. You guys where adamant that 40 babies had been decapitated, in the end it was bullshit. And here we are again. I’m not denying there have been rapes.
But first Sypkan and then your self and the tone of your comments further sexualising and objectifying of the victims is fucking seedy. Your extrapolation of the possibilities further revealed your a bit of a seedy cunt.
I know you need a little bit of guidance which you never ever take. But they’re exchanging the hostages you dolt. The first ones where women and the children. 100%

You are clearly not even reading the comments properly, read them again, I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE HOSTAGES HAMAS HAS TAKEN I was talking about those not accounted for, that they have not found bodies of in Israel so are assumed kidnapped.

There is roughly 240 kidnapped but Hamas claims not to have that many, i cant remember the figure but its a fair bit less like 200 or so.

They suspect either other terrorist groups in Gaza like Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), and ISIS-Sinai Province or individuals have them.

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There is about 240 hostages but Hamas claim to not have that many, it wasn't just Hamas who breached the border it was other similar groups and just individuals, its completely realistic that some of these hot chicks are now private sex slaves or taken back raped and killed.

Relevant aspects of reply to seeds

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Those that Hamas kidnapped hold value for trade as we are seeing now, while they hold value they should be treated half decent and keep alive and healthy, they hold no value dead.

Hamas claims not to have the others and i cant see why they would be lying because every person kidnapped holds value.

So either those still missing were taken by Hamas and were badly injured and now dead.

But they also suspect other group's or individuals kidnapped people, and if they did and they aren't trying to trade them, then they have them for other reason's.

They kidnapped them for a reason, if it was just to kill quickly they would have just killed them in Israel instead of going to the effort of kidnapping them.

So if they are men, then they were most likely brought back to be killed a painful slow death.

If they were women its very realistic they were brought back to be raped before being killed, and its also 100% realistic they have been kept as sex slaves or sold to a pimp or whatever.

If you aren't mature enough to talk about these aspects then cool, pass over the convesation, but just because we are mature enough to discuss these aspects doesn't mean we are sexualising or objectifying them.

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Roadkill Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 1:56pm

Opportunistic Palestinian citizens hey. But, but, but they are all innocent people?

https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/third-hostage-prisoner-exchange...

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southernraw Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 2:16pm

Roadkill aka Cartman

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Roadkill Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 2:43pm

you would think if you knew your neighbour was holding a hostage...you would speak up.

everyday Palestinians are holding hostages.

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Roadkill Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 2:50pm

SR, straight to the race card . Lmao.

Homophobia card yesterday, race card today. SR you better be careful or you will run out of cards.

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soggydog Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 2:51pm

Inflammatory speculative statements that are not based on facts distort the conversation not add to it. Like the 40 decapitated babies.
If you’re not mature enough to realise that them maybe it’s you who is not mature enough to engage in sensible fact based conversation. Referring to incidents as far back as 2015 and 2016 by a different group is not helping the plight of anybody who is directly affected by this horrible mess.

Facts are facts and fictions fiction. .

Look how 40 dead babies whipped you guys up with no firm evidence just some Israeli propaganda. They love blokes like you Indo.

Any way. I wish I’d never engaged yesterday so I’ll move on and Indo, you can keep on creep in’ on.

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Roadkill Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 3:07pm
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Inflammatory speculative statements that are not based on facts distort the conversation not add to it. Like the 40 decapitated babies.
If you’re not mature enough to realise that them maybe it’s you who is not mature enough to engage in sensible fact based conversation. Referring to incidents as far back as 2015 and 2016 by a different group is not helping the plight of anybody who is directly affected by this horrible mess.

Facts are facts and fictions fiction. .

Look how 40 dead babies whipped you guys up with no firm evidence just some Israeli propaganda. They love blokes like you Indo.

Any way. I wish I’d never engaged yesterday so I’ll move on and Indo, you can keep on creep in’ on.

who here said 40 decapitated babies? I never saw anyone quote 40 babies until you said it yesterday.

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southernraw Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 2:57pm
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SR, straight to the race card . Lmao.

Homophobia card yesterday, race card today. SR you better be careful or you will run out of cards.

Wait i'm confused.
Are you saying someone on here said that ALL Palestinians are innocent?
Or are you implying that you don't like/trust any Palestinians at all?
And homophopia?? That's how you interpret what most normal people can distinguish as banter? Because i reckon you go giddy over a morning show host? Could have been a woman. They're just the two most prominent morning show host's i could think of it.
Funny where your grubby mind goes though isn't it.

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soggydog Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 3:22pm

Initial reports from the media had stated that the IDF had found decapitated babies at one of the kibutz. It was repeated in the media and repeated on here. It was later reported untrue with no evidence. The IDF said they knew it wasn’t true but the message was in their best interest. iE. Whipping retards into condoning the wholesale slaughter of civilians.

That’s actually based in facts.

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Roadkill Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 3:33pm
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Initial reports from the media had stated that the IDF had found decapitated babies at one of the kibutz. It was repeated in the media and repeated on here. It was later reported untrue with no evidence. The IDF said they knew it wasn’t true but the message was in their best interest. iE. Whipping retards into condoning the wholesale slaughter of civilians.

That’s actually based in facts.

where is the 40 babies decapitated posted?

You seem to be the only one getting whipped into a frenzy and using 40 as a number. This is about the 4th/5th time you have posted in the last few day...forget it, no one cares except you.

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soggydog Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 4:08pm

LMB RK.

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indo-dreaming Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 6:09pm
Roadkill wrote:
soggydog wrote:

Initial reports from the media had stated that the IDF had found decapitated babies at one of the kibutz. It was repeated in the media and repeated on here. It was later reported untrue with no evidence. The IDF said they knew it wasn’t true but the message was in their best interest. iE. Whipping retards into condoning the wholesale slaughter of civilians.

That’s actually based in facts.

where is the 40 babies decapitated posted?

You seem to be the only one getting whipped into a frenzy and using 40 as a number. This is about the 4th/5th time you have posted in the last few day...forget it, no one cares except you.

It was barely talked about here maybe a few post, all i remember is some were very keen to quickly jump in and claim there is no evidence for it.

There is a very clear pattern here with some, always quick to defend Hamas and always quick to write off Israel.

We sure didn't see the same people jumping in claiming there was no evidence the strike on the Hospital was Israel, and that the Gaza health department run by Hamas claims of 500 dead had any substance.

But we soon learnt that the blast site was a foot or so ditch in the paving of the carpark and clearly not an IDF missle blast strike and the damage from blast would be lucky to take out a dozen people, even nearby car windows stayed intake

There has also been all kinds of claims here made with no substance basically just Hamas propaganda, some quite ridiculous stuff especially the Hamas propaganda Jelly brain was posting , but will Soggy dog call those out?...no of course not.

BTW. The baby thing was 40 babies murdered some reportedly had heads cut off, but as media and people do it became 40 babies beheaded, and it hasn't been proven or disproven to be true if any babies have been beheaded and i wouldn't be surprised either way.

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soggydog Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 7:17pm

The reason some of us don’t jump in with unsubstantiated claims of what may or may not be happening is because we don’t know.

You’ve only been called out when you’ve extrapolated on the not so factual reporting.

See the difference. Don’t know shut the fuck up till you do.

As opposed to “I don’t know, fuck it, I’ll let my imagination run wild and present my sick musings as what is probably happening “. Even though you have no fucking idea.

Jelly doesn’t post unsubstantiated horse shit like you Indo.

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Jelly Flater Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 7:45pm

Pls feel free to provide any examples of anyone defending hamas @lowinfo…
- pretty sure your imagination is running wild there too ;)

But go on… show the proof of anyone here who has defended hamas, coz apparently there is a clear pattern ;);)
- sure it’s not just you makin shit up, going on assumptions and then crying 100% certainty ?

But… yeah… carry on with your expert analysis / opinion… haha
- notice the dumbest cunts are the most outraged… just projecting their own infantile obsessions and fears… thinking they’re sticking up for fweedumb but just a bunch of nobodies who can’t come to terms with their own powerlessness in relation to a shitfight on the other side of z world.

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indo-dreaming Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 9:16pm
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The reason some of us don’t jump in with unsubstantiated claims of what may or may not be happening is because we don’t know.

You’ve only been called out when you’ve extrapolated on the not so factual reporting.

See the difference. Don’t know shut the fuck up till you do.

As opposed to “I don’t know, fuck it, I’ll let my imagination run wild and present my sick musings as what is probably happening “. Even though you have no fucking idea.

Jelly doesn’t post unsubstantiated horse shit like you Indo.

A lot of things shared here are personal thoughts or ideas, views, opinions of either the poster or from others learnt from listening to podcast or You tube videos or through all different types of media, Its a forum thats what forums are about talking about ideas, news, issues etc

Theres all kinds of shit posted here i dont agree with or think is complete BS, lots of it i ignore as i just cant be bothered calling it out or just cant be bothered dealing with some posters, some of it i might question and point out why i dont think its true, like i did with Southern Raw the other day with suggestions Israel knew the 7th Oct attack was going to happen, but hey end of the day everyone is free to follow or believe what they want.

In regard to Jelly brain ha ha you are smoking crack old man, pretty much everything that clown post is unsubstantiated horse shit, the only reason you dont have an issues with it is because you are exactly like Jelly brain, you are anti Israel anti Jew and pro hamas.

BTW. You better get on the phone an tell Biden to shut the fuck up, not even two weeks ago..

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Jelly Flater Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 9:28pm

Um… and off u go… singing ya song…

;);)

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soggydog Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 9:36pm

Speaking’ truth to power with that Biden quote. You go girl………… look out,
here comes the egg.

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soggydog Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 10:00pm

https://www.bing.com/fd/ls/GLinkPing.aspx?IG=77D8AAA082784957AA3878FA271... This is from 5 months ago just incase you don’t think the IDF kills kids. Actual reporting and evidence as opposed to suggestion and innuendo.

Check it out Indo. You only have to read the headline.

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seeds Tuesday, 28 Nov 2023 at 12:48am

This has some more of the speech before what Supa put up a link to.

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 28 Nov 2023 at 8:14am
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https://www.bing.com/fd/ls/GLinkPing.aspx?IG=77D8AAA082784957AA3878FA271... This is from 5 months ago just incase you don’t think the IDF kills kids. Actual reporting and evidence as opposed to suggestion and innuendo.

Check it out Indo. You only have to read the headline.

Link doesn't work, Israel and IDF aren't perfect and nobody is trying to claim they are but there is absolutely No comparison to Hamas, Israel do their best to abide by rules of war where possible and even have legal advisors who advise on what they can and cant do and even legality of targets and soldiers caught doing things like shooting a kid can be held accountable even in a court of law similar to how most developed countries systems work, its the total opposite with Hamas (who are also the government) where civilians are true target's and rules of war are not there to be abided by but there to be exploited to create a disadvantage to their enemy, making it virtually impossible for Israel to fight a war without a high civilian death count.

If the military force between the two countries was switched and Israel used civilians as human shield's, it would be a complete waste of time, those targets would be the first hit.

The thing many tend to forget is even outside of so called times of war Israel are constantly trying to deal with neighbours that want to kill them and Hamas even has had a charter that says they want to kill all Jews, if it wasn't for the Iron dome Israel would be screwed, 99% of the time all Israel do is sit there defending themselves with the Iron dome and other system's, until they finally go, sorry the line is crossed we need to do something about this, and then when they do, people like you lose their shit and cant understand the basic principle that the only way to break the cycle is to destroy Hamas or at the very least get them out of government and severally weaken them as a group.

If you were going to put things on a scale of 1 to 10 with one being best and ten being the worst in the world, despite no army being perfect and having issue's the USA and its allies would still be ahead of everyone else and set the scale at 1, Israel at say a 3, and groups like ISIS & Hamas at 9 to 10.

In regard to the differences in government/society while Israel and its government aren't without flaws, sure its not a perfect democracy its still a democracy a very rare thing in the middle east, with standards and goals similar to other democratic developed countries, its population is a mix of different ethnicities and religions that despite clear issue's actually still works, its a country where group's like Gays can live openly, same sex marriage while not legal to conduct is still recognised if married elsewhere, simple things like cohabitation between any sexes is accepted another very rare thing in the region.

Its the same deal with women's rights and equality while not perfect like anywhere in the world women in Israel are generally seen as equals as an example 34% of soldiers in the IDF are women, 23% of all officers are women, there is only the odd position that women cant serve in, due to strength but even that policy is said to be changing and i expect assessed on merit.

So the question is why do you and others waste all your time dissing and opposing those with values and goals similar to ours (even with our political/social differences) while trying to make excuses and being protective even seemingly supporting of those that hold the complete opposite ideals/values?

BTW. I found the figure for those suspected kidnapped but not claimed by Hamas but by other group's or individual's, Times radio has reported its 40, but they dont know how many bodies were taken back to Gaza to be paraded around as trophies.

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 28 Nov 2023 at 8:50am

Haha… the number ‘40’ again ;);)
- wtf ? The only actual truth is in the quote “but they don’t know…”

They don’t know… we don’t know… and most importantly - you don’t know.

And do you realise you quoted Biden last night ? (as though it was some kind of validation of facts and a representation of functioning cognitive reasoning)…

- you really don’t get it lowinfo… trying to explain your version of things doesn’t actually make it true… you do get that yeah ;);)

You also understand ppl can call out things like israel’s continued illegal settlements (which are illegal under international law) and that doesn’t mean they support hamas or are anti semitic ?

- u also wanna try defend Israel’s supposed legal way of ‘doing war’ … and yet pretend a biden fear mongering quote about hamas ‘burning women and children alive’ holds credibility…
- whilst the idf carpet drops ‘precision’ bombs and white phosphorus munitions (illegal under international rules of war) which… ummm… actually are burning women and children alive.

So. Yeah. Great stuff lowinfo.
Your gumboot false equivalence and hypocrisy continues ;)

No sides.
No winners.
No war.

- but apparently there is a ‘clear pattern’ of support for hamas here ;)

… still waiting for you to back up your bullshit
- as you go all rogue investigative gumboot theory ;);)

- show us the evidence of anyone here, at any point, expressing actual support for hamas…

Coz they’re just baseless accusations you are alluding to - and a pure mirror of how farkn dumb and ignorant you really are ;)

You and brandon make a good team tho ;);)

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soggydog Tuesday, 28 Nov 2023 at 9:53am

Your fist paragraph was bull shit. The article is about a 3 year old kid who was shot in the head in the West Bank by the IDF while his father was putting his seatbelt on. They shot dad too. No one will be prosecuted. So Indo’s first unsubstantiated claim again turns to bullshit. Thi s happened 5 months prior to the current escalation.
The rest is just complete waffle. Your one to ten horse shit. Look at the body count Indo. Just in this recent conflict a large amount of the Israeli civilian deaths on October 7th Israeli witnesses attribute to the IDF.
Then they Mow the Lawn. With US bombs payed for by the US taxpayers to fulfil a Zionist fantasy. Now the Zionists are doxing students who protest trying to ruin their future prospects of employment. Students in the US that is. This large powerful lobby group is not satisfied with blanket bombing civilians at home. Now they’re trying to ruin the lives of people who are calling out their bullshit in other countries.

You seem to forget the US and the UK’s foreign policy disasters world wide pretty easily.

$100 billion to the Ukraine, Ukrainian civilians used as cannon fodder for some unsuccessful NATO sabre rattling.

Iraq, Libya, Vietnam shall we go on.

If you hurry I think they’ve got a large fuzzy star of David suit with a smiley face…….and a bazooka. You can be a mascot! Dance on a hill while they use US bombs supplied by US tax payers to maim and kill indiscriminately. Good times!
Because like you said they’re number 1

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soggydog Tuesday, 28 Nov 2023 at 10:09am

Yeah the quote from Biden was gold.

A quote from 81 year old confirmed serial liar across his whole career, from his academic achievements to his son’s laptop, in serious cognitive decline, plucked from a speech to a pro Israeli lobby group is Indo’s gotcha moment. Again with no evidence that any of what he said happened.

Oh the hilarity.

Shooting kids, blanket bombing civilians and doxing students and calling for people to lose their jobs because they think what you’re doing is bad is not having the same values as me. And quite a few others.
And if they’re the values you’d seek to uphold then go for it. Just don’t expect praise from anyone with half a brain

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amb Tuesday, 28 Nov 2023 at 10:26am

What a shit show, there like two arguing siblings, "he hit me", "yeah but he hit me first", "no i didnt" , "yes you did".

Wheres the adult in the room to sort this out?

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seeds Tuesday, 28 Nov 2023 at 1:31pm

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seeds Tuesday, 28 Nov 2023 at 1:56pm

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About religion or statehood? What lengths will you go for statehood? What religious doctrines will you ignore for statehood. Why the only religion on Earth that supposedly has a state?

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southernraw Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 1:58pm

Trigger alert for msm slurpers.
Alleged total conspiracies discussed im detail with swellnets favourite female political activist, Lucy Small.
Good on ya Lucy. Legend!
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2Q...

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 7:14pm

sounds juicy, can you tldr for us?

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 7:55pm

One thing this war has really has exposed is how much antisemitism for Jews there is out there, Its pretty crazy i always thought it was a far right thing but it seems the far left are just as bad, i guess its the Horseshoe effect in action.

Does my head in that there are people like Jelly brain and Soggy Dog that dont even try to hide their hate of Jews and openly support jihadist, this world(and forum) is really getting weirder all the time.

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soggydog Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 8:07pm

Wrong Indo, anti Zionism is not anti Jew.

In fact if you listen to Halocaust survivor former Zionist and academic Dr Gabor Mate he is also not fond of Zionism. Many other noted Jewish scholars agree.

You’re just a sick fuck numpty who doesn’t know Jackshit.

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Jelly Flater Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 8:14pm

Spot on soggydog ;)

- and …@lowinfo
That’s just u doin your own head in ;);)

- be nice to try blame others for your inability to understand things and attribute outside influences as the catalyst for having such an unstable emotional state…

Try just be accountable for your own idiocy, no one else is doin it but u ;)
- at least u can admit u keep getting weirder all the time.

Facts ;);)

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Jelly Flater Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 8:19pm

Freedom and censorship…
- and the democratic occupation of free speech ;)

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goofyfoot Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 8:20pm
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Trigger alert for msm slurpers.
Alleged total conspiracies discussed im detail with swellnets favourite female political activist, Lucy Small.
Good on ya Lucy. Legend!
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2Q...

Legend?!
Ughh whenever I see her head pop up on the net it makes me want to throw my phone away. I can’t scroll past her quick enough.

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basesix Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 8:36pm
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tt-o56oGKo

"if you criticize Israel, some people will say... you're an anti-semite...
and if that's your definition of anti-semitism.. it's taken an IMPORTANT TERM and stretched it to the point where it's meaningless..." (8:00-ish)

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Jelly Flater Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 8:50pm

Thanks for pointing that bit out @basesix…
- pretty obvious to most but obviously not to all ;)

- and sacha baron cohen must be a self hating antisemitic jew ;);)

… some can’t seem to (or just don’t want to / are too dumb to) make distinctions between facts, fiction, satire and historical truths.

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basesix Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 9:05pm

best I could extract @Jelly, it is hard to find moderate quotes from increasingly bewildered people, hey? as terms are decided and sides are taken and grey is black-and-whitened, and a multi-faceted issue is squashed to a two-sided coin, people start to get irate, and all you have to do these days to feel chuffed with yourself is be a calm, detached bozo and wait for the shitstink of frustration to emerge and raise a simian index finger at the thing you didn't like in the first place and grunt: "see?"

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southernraw Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 9:13pm
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Trigger alert for msm slurpers.
Alleged total conspiracies discussed im detail with swellnets favourite female political activist, Lucy Small.
Good on ya Lucy. Legend!
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2Q...

Legend?!
Ughh whenever I see her head pop up on the net it makes me want to throw my phone away. I can’t scroll past her quick enough.

I like that she triggers crew. It's a bit like the indigenous people who stand up and voice their opinion and get shot down by the public.
Seems like alot of blokes don't like their women speaking their voice.
Just stay in your lane woman!!
I reckon it takes guts to put herself(especially as a young woman) out on a public pedestal and speak up for others.
Definitely alot easier to just write shit anonymously on the internet that's for sure.

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goofyfoot Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 9:33pm

“ Seems like alot of blokes don't like their women speaking their voice.
Just stay in your lane woman!!”

Hahaha I knew you’d throw something like that in there, couldn’t help yourself.
Plenty of inspirational women out there sr, she isn’t one.
Only my opinion though of course sr, as a humble anonymous internet commentator

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southernraw Wednesday, 29 Nov 2023 at 10:17pm

You know me too well Goofy!
Don't worry, you're in a safe space on Swellnet.
We all know SN commenter's general thoughts on young Lucy.
Luckily for you it probably won't betoo much Lucy on this website that makes you throw your phone away.
Funny though, it's about perspective. Where you see annoying, i see a delightful and energised young lady with gall. Reminds me of some of my friends! haha
edit: Something to add, this threads been going for a while now, thousands have people have died, but i don't remember much commenting from you, but mention Lucy, an advocate for a right and just world, and boom!! Might wanna check your trigger points Goofy ;-P

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seeds Thursday, 30 Nov 2023 at 12:13am

You once had an itchy trigger finger Southern.
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goofyfoot Thursday, 30 Nov 2023 at 5:33am
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You know me too well Goofy!
Don't worry, you're in a safe space on Swellnet.
We all know SN commenter's general thoughts on young Lucy.
Luckily for you it probably won't betoo much Lucy on this website that makes you throw your phone away.
Funny though, it's about perspective. Where you see annoying, i see a delightful and energised young lady with gall. Reminds me of some of my friends! haha
edit: Something to add, this threads been going for a while now, thousands have people have died, but i don't remember much commenting from you, but mention Lucy, an advocate for a right and just world, and boom!! Might wanna check your trigger points Goofy ;-P

Life’s not all about commenting on swellnet sr, you of all people should know that. 5 user names, 100 dummy spits, threats of leaving, etc etc. probably not me or my “trigger points” you should be worried about
I’ve said a few things about the topic on this thread but hard to get a word in between you info and the dill going beserk on it everyday. Sometimes it’s better to sit back and watch mate. After all what has this thread achieved?
Apart from it turning into the usual suspects arguing, name calling, abusing etc etc. which I’ve definitely been guilty of :-/
Hasn’t helped a single person actually involved in the war has it.??

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goofyfoot Thursday, 30 Nov 2023 at 5:48am

One more thing before the threads all yours again..
This is your hero Lucy, the advocate for a right and just world, celebrating Hamas terrorists just before they started slaying people at that festival is it not??
Enjoy ya day
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southernraw Thursday, 30 Nov 2023 at 7:34am

I think you should listen to the whole podcast, for context Goofy.
You sound like all the other fuckwits above who think supporting Palestine is supporting Hamas.
One big difference between 'my hero' Lucy and you Goofy, is she's been to parts of Palestine, and i'm guessing you have not.
All i said was she's a legend. You're the one that decided to turn it into a bitch.
I simply stood up for her, as it seems most on swellnet are too weak to break the normal conformity of piling on an outspoken female.
That is the general rule of thumb on swellnet though.
Have a lovely day too.

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southernraw Thursday, 30 Nov 2023 at 7:36am
goofyfoot wrote:
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You know me too well Goofy!
Don't worry, you're in a safe space on Swellnet.
We all know SN commenter's general thoughts on young Lucy.
Luckily for you it probably won't betoo much Lucy on this website that makes you throw your phone away.
Funny though, it's about perspective. Where you see annoying, i see a delightful and energised young lady with gall. Reminds me of some of my friends! haha
edit: Something to add, this threads been going for a while now, thousands have people have died, but i don't remember much commenting from you, but mention Lucy, an advocate for a right and just world, and boom!! Might wanna check your trigger points Goofy ;-P

Life’s not all about commenting on swellnet sr, you of all people should know that. 5 user names, 100 dummy spits, threats of leaving, etc etc. probably not me or my “trigger points” you should be worried about
I’ve said a few things about the topic on this thread but hard to get a word in between you info and the dill going beserk on it everyday. Sometimes it’s better to sit back and watch mate. After all what has this thread achieved?
Apart from it turning into the usual suspects arguing, name calling, abusing etc etc. which I’ve definitely been guilty of :-/
Hasn’t helped a single person actually involved in the war has it.??

Huh? 5 user names?
Fark mate, i'm not on here that much either. I pop in, i pop out.
But you're talking shit about a real person while using an anonymous name.
That shit is rank and you probably should be old enough to know better.

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green room Thursday, 30 Nov 2023 at 9:29am

All those Aussie dudes like southernraw, seeds, basesix and Jelly Flater insisting on hating on Israel, you're just straight-up antisemitic, or you're backing Hamas and the terrorism game, or you're into that Marxist decolonization and anti-West vibe.

Why? Because, bros, showing love for the Palestinian peeps means being against Hamas and all that Islamic terrorism stuff. It's them Islamic terrorists and their jihad death game forcing both the Palestinian crew and the Israelis to live in this open-air prison and jail sentence. Straight up facts, man.

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basesix Thursday, 30 Nov 2023 at 9:31am

fark off troll, yr played.
(isn't simpsons amazing in its predictions? trump as president... the inside of your head when designing 'green room'... uncanny...)