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Craig started the topic in Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 3:27pm

How good has this season been.

Besides the ongoing battle and tension between Hamilton and Verstappen, the last two races have been great.

Firstly Ricardo's win and the performance of McLaren in Monza last race, then Lando Norris heartbreakingly making the wrong decision with three laps to go in last night's Sochi race, sliding out on the slicks instead of going to the intermediates.

He did everything right, expect right at the end.

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Craig Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 3:27pm

It's gonna be a great end to the year!

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Roadkill Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 3:33pm

Lando stuffed it up big time. He looked so dejected because he knew he blew it.

Good to see Mclaren getting up the front.

Hamilton for the title hopefully..VerStap is a spoilt entitled silver spoon kid.

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brutus Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 3:45pm

ha , now here's a real thread I can enjoy......best years since Nikki Lauder/Hunt...Senna/Prost....and now Hamilton/Verstappen...some of the best racing you will see , and now McLaren taking it past Ferrari......every race is full of excitement , and the competitive juices are boiling over.
Not sure if you watched Jack Doohan son of Mick , win the F3 race...with Dad watching....Jack also came snd in the Championship....and then there's Oscar Piastri from Melbourne ( coached by Mark Webber) who won the F2 race in looks like being the F2 champion.....and how about Remey Gardner son of wayne ...GP 2 bikes champ......

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Johknee Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 3:47pm
Roadkill wrote:

Lando stuffed it up big time. He looked so dejected because he knew he blew it.

Good to see Mclaren getting up the front.

Hamilton for the title hopefully..VerStap is a spoilt entitled silver spoon kid.

Silver spoons are an entry requirement for F1. Hamilton is as bad as Max when it comes to whining/whinging, maybe even worse.

Anyway, motogp is where it's at! F1 has sucked for years now. Bring back the old days with v12/v10s!

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Roadkill Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 4:06pm
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Roadkill wrote:

Lando stuffed it up big time. He looked so dejected because he knew he blew it.

Good to see Mclaren getting up the front.

Hamilton for the title hopefully..VerStap is a spoilt entitled silver spoon kid.

Silver spoons are an entry requirement for F1. Hamilton is as bad as Max when it comes to whining/whinging, maybe even worse.

Anyway, motogp is where it's at! F1 has sucked for years now. Bring back the old days with v12/v10s!

Motogp in the smaller bikes is pure racing...it's so good. The 250 class with Simoncelli racing was about as good as racing could ever be. 10 years since he died...I still remember that race.

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Craig Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 4:18pm

I used to watch the F1 back in high school and Uni days, recording it and watching it the next day. Too bad if the race was delayed for some reason as the tape would run out and you'd miss out on the end result.

I hadn't watched a race for over a decade I reckon until I got onto the Netflix series "Drive to Survive" lasy year and then it got me hooked again.

It seems the sport is built up much more around the characters these days and when you've got one of the best racers ever (Hamilton) and the up and coming super star (Max) at the head of it, they can't go wrong.

The behind the scenes access/footage and even the radio conversations make it so much better to watch and enjoy now, I'm enjoying it more than ever.

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zenagain Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 4:37pm

Hey Brutus, very few (I think only one) seat up for grabs for 2022. I think finishing first in F2 practically guaranteed an F1 slot which would be Oscar. I read somewhere though he might not get it and the seat will go to the Chinese driver, I can't recall his name, making him China's first F1 driver.

Been loving following Daniel Riccardo's transition from RB to Renault and McLaren this year. I hope he can keep up the momentum.

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Roadkill Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 4:52pm
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Hey Brutus, very few (I think only one) seat up for grabs for 2022. I think finishing first in F2 practically guaranteed an F1 slot which would be Oscar. I read somewhere though he might not get it and the seat will go to the Chinese driver, I can't recall his name, making him China's first F1 driver.

Been loving following Daniel Riccardo's transition from RB to Renault and McLaren this year. I hope he can keep up the momentum.

Guanyu Zhou. He has something like 50 million backing him and Oscar Piastri doesn’t. The AUS guy may loose out in getting the f1 seat he deserves sadly.

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zenagain Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 5:29pm

That's him Roady, and the seat will be with Alpha Romeo joining Bottas, who's leaving Benz.

Sadly money talks- you just have to look at Lance Stroll or that Mazepin chap.

"I liked it so much, I bought the company" as the old ad went.

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Craig Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 5:44pm

Yeah pity re Stroll and his Dad putting him in the team. Didn't really earn it eh.,

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zenagain Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 6:40pm

In fairness, Stroll can drive and has had three podium finishes, Mazepin has had none.

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Johknee Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 7:14pm
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Motogp in the smaller bikes is pure racing...it's so good. The 250 class with Simoncelli racing was about as good as racing could ever be. 10 years since he died...I still remember that race.

Agree. 125 and 250 were awesome. I remember the Simoncelli race well. So sad.

The moto3 championship is the most exciting racing you'll ever see. So many passes and, on average, a dozen riders all in with a chance to win the race. I know there has been a lot of talk about the moto3 riders being too risky, but shit it's fun to watch! Pure madness what they do at high speeds.

Sorry for hijacking the F1 talk!

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Johknee Monday, 27 Sep 2021 at 7:55pm

Back to F1 talk - Schumacher doco on Netflix is a good watch.

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Craig Tuesday, 28 Sep 2021 at 6:54am

Yeah I enjoyed it, great bit of history!

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brutus Tuesday, 28 Sep 2021 at 8:31am
zenagain wrote:

Hey Brutus, very few (I think only one) seat up for grabs for 2022. I think finishing first in F2 practically guaranteed an F1 slot which would be Oscar. I read somewhere though he might not get it and the seat will go to the Chinese driver, I can't recall his name, making him China's first F1 driver.

Been loving following Daniel Riccardo's transition from RB to Renault and McLaren this year. I hope he can keep up the momentum.

yeah Zen nice to have a change of subject...how and you and the missus travelling?

was coming to Japan this year , but cancelled the whole trip , waiting for the vax levels to rise and I'll be back ..come up your way this time, going to do a road trip up to Hakaido....so see ya next year.
Yeah Zhou will possibly get next years F1 drive , Oscar has been great , but will probably spend another year in F2...it's actually amazing to see all the Aussies getting starts as it's so expensive to get into the F1 club and very Eurocentric.......some of the best racing I have seen....best season yet...if ya get a chance watch the F3 , and doohans race ...unbelievable...

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zenagain Tuesday, 28 Sep 2021 at 8:35am

Will do.

We're all good and plenty of room for you and yours here. We're not going anywhere (sadly- ha ha!)

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Craig Tuesday, 5 Oct 2021 at 3:30pm

I watched that F3 race Brutus. What a finish!

How was Jack not giving into team orders at all. So good, good on him!

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evosurfer Wednesday, 6 Oct 2021 at 12:07am

When you pay to drive to make a career in motorsport at that level
you would commit racing suicide in the eyes of future team bosses to
let your team mate pass when theyre 1st and 2nd and both going for
outright champion for the year. Jacks aiming for formula one and those
guys dont like people to be happy with second only when theyre paying millions for them to be a wingman. My only fear about Jack is redbull will
pick him up and they only have Australians for wingman. Webber, Riccardo

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Roadkill Saturday, 9 Oct 2021 at 7:42am

Turkish F1 this weekend. Redbull new livery looks faaaantastic. Its ganna be a super weekend.

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zenagain Saturday, 9 Oct 2021 at 8:29am

https://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/formula-one/aussie-young-gun-os...

Would be great to see two Aussies with an F1 drive.

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Craig Saturday, 9 Oct 2021 at 11:12am
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Turkish F1 this weekend. Redbull new livery looks faaaantastic. Its ganna be a super weekend.

Yeah love the old school look! Brings back memories.

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brutus Saturday, 9 Oct 2021 at 12:06pm
evosurfer wrote:

When you pay to drive to make a career in motorsport at that level
you would commit racing suicide in the eyes of future team bosses to
let your team mate pass when theyre 1st and 2nd and both going for
outright champion for the year. Jacks aiming for formula one and those
guys dont like people to be happy with second only when theyre paying millions for them to be a wingman. My only fear about Jack is redbull will
pick him up and they only have Australians for wingman. Webber, Riccardo

F3 is bit different to F1 and F2....they normally don't have team orders . He did let his team member pass him , but repassed him again. lotta talent in those Doohan Genes, great to see his dad there supporting him and keep help building Jack's profile as a real racer!
For the Future , it's insanely hard for an Aussie to get a number 1# drive in a number 1# team and you are right in it looks like being a Top wingman is going to always be the norm!

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brutus Saturday, 9 Oct 2021 at 12:11pm
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/formula-one/aussie-young-gun-os...

Would be great to see two Aussies with an F1 drive.

yeah Zen....Oscar looks the good . I think he's a shade faster than Zhou( but racer from China should have incredible financial support!) , but Oscar definitely has way better race day craft.....which will stand him in good stead with a lowly F1team .....for the debut of his F1 career..more likely than not in2023......

Having Mark Webber helping Oscar , is a huge bonus as Mark know all the ins and outs of the business ....very interesting times....