DUMP on Trump

@burleigh , ignore TM then and tell us why Trump is “ a great man “ and CK was a good guy . You said you didn’t agree with all of CKs views so which ones did you agree with and how is Trump making America great again ?

^ nice try quadspinna ;)

…keep up the fantastical tall tales of loonkranian ‘success’ hahaha

You’re a fully qualified unconscious orange turd believer
- caught in the contradiction of moral debauchery ;)

…& don’t forget to espouse and display virtue signalling hypocrisy
- just warming the popcorn for the no ballz ‘discussion’ response haha

Carry on ;);)

tearymasseuse wrote:

^ nice try quadspinna ;)

…keep up the fantastical tall tales of loonkranian ‘success’ hahaha

You’re a fully qualified unconscious orange turd believer
- caught in the contradiction of moral debauchery ;)

…& don’t forget to espouse and display virtue signalling hypocrisy
- just warming the popcorn for the no ballz ‘discussion’ response haha

Carry on ;);)

youtube.com/watch?v=UcaDoq44Lag

Teary you're constantly mocking and not debating. using weird names. accusing and dismissing all in a fruitloop way. You have no substance to anything you write, it's just off salad. No discussions, just weird insults with a stupid smiley face.

…sure thing hector deflector mass debater spare bear haha
(careful you don’t slip on a fwoot loop now cereal hypocrite mocker try hard)

- do go on ;);)

Supafreak wrote:

@burleigh , ignore TM then and tell us why Trump is “ a great man “ and CK was a good guy . You said you didn’t agree with all of CKs views so which ones did you agree with and how is Trump making America great again ?

Very interested in any non dismissive ‘substance’ let alone counter argument / debate / discussion you can apply to CK and his racism and misogyny ;)

…not much solid evidence to work with tho haha
(& popcorn is getting cold)

Try not to scurry away like a good lil weasel now hector, you’re running outta deflections…

- carry on ;);)

Supafreak wrote:

When you have no counter argument the next move is to try to go after the poster if deflection isn’t working .

…nothing to see here
(but a mirror into the sad state of burlz bwain wot)

- but pls …do go on haha

;);)

Supafreak wrote:

@burleigh , ignore TM then and tell us why Trump is “ a great man “ and CK was a good guy . You said you didn’t agree with all of CKs views so which ones did you agree with and how is Trump making America great again ?

Very good question.
And spot on with the above @TM.

It may come as a shock to some but prior to his untimely demise, this ageing septuagenarian had never heard of Charlie Kirk. He was mourned by many as a fine example of humanity and the Christian ethic, so I spent some time reviewing what he had to say.

What I saw was largely in complete contrast: racist, misogynist, bigot and a demeaner of those he perceived as inferior, would be a more accurate assessment. What does surprise me is that it took this long for someone to send him to his god.

Many a devious individual has hidden behind the convenient veil of Christianity and all its virtues. His widow, a stout avowed Christian as well (apparently), spoke with an anger seldom seen in the bereaved. Speaking behind a lectern emblazoned with the words: “May Charlie be received into the merciful arms of Jesus our loving Saviour”, she stated: “You have no idea of the fire you have ignited…..the cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battlecry”. Looks like those fine Christian ethics of love thy neighbour and forgiveness have been well and truly abandoned in the quest for revenge and retribution.

In the grief following his passing, emotion came to fore, unashamedly. I saw several Sky News videos entitled:” Sky News host in tears over Charlie”: I didn’t watch. However, I did take the time to watch some of Erin Molan’s tribute: this was a performance worthy of an Academy Award, Golden Globe, BAFTA and you can throw in a Gold Logie as well. As the adage goes: “if you can fake sincerity, you’ve got it made”.

In the turmoil following, while Trump and Musk were winding everyone up and every RWNJ Youtuber was pictured with a gun, Bernie Sanders was one of the few who spoke in a calm, sensible manner: judging by the continued response, most of the CK Fanclub missed it.

Well said ! +1

@saltydog if this was an episode of Sth Park i'd write it off as over the top as i'd think they'd have gone too far into fantasy land...but it's actually happening and worse before the eyes of all. I have no comprehension of how deranged, misguided and just purely pig head ignorant people must be to go along with all this, but one common almighty savior denominator seems to be a key factor in their lack of cognition.

And it's not just in the States. There's a big part of the people i know that have succumbed to this brain rot MAGA mushbrain syndrome religous fervour.

Which got me thinking on a more macro scale. How much has religion, religous extremism more accurately, dumbed down the American population, particularly the bible belt and red states? When God is the answer to everything, has it replaced learning and critical thinking, when you can just answer everything away with 'Jesus said'. Is this the chicken coming home to roost from allowing a population to bathe in their holy bathwater??

^ well said @Salty

The most peculiar question I ponder is how anyone can really be captured by such fundamental salesmanship…
- what is it that CK and the lyin king are protecting exactly ?
…& what is the actual ‘threat’ other than a misconceived idea of not being able to control others according to some absolutist fixed world view ?

The rhetoric is full of blame and idealist fantasy, steeped in illusionary concepts of salvation and deranged empowerment…
It can only appeal to scared and fragile ppl with an inability to actually want to understand - let alone explore - the ever changing moral code of ‘treating others as you would like to be treated’.

Cornerstone teachings of compassion, forgiveness and ‘love thy neighbour’ have been hijacked by true unqualified pilots, they’re just self appointed fanatical mouthpieces of mayhem …spreading nothing but divisive & narcissistic doctrine under the cover of jebus ;)

Attempting to bulldoze others into submission with entitled, racist and bigoted opinions (masked as divinely delivered delicacies) is pure political theatre.

It is in no way freedom of speech, but simply freedom of manipulation in order to generate power and inspire a collective ‘ego’ manufactured through fear. The followers are elite pretenders who truly believe they aren’t responsible for their own inability to appease their personally produced suffering and require an ideology to buffer that insanity …

Anyone promoting CK as a good guy, as a spokesperson for traditional ‘values’ or as a representative of christian teachings are as deluded as anyone still bound to donnies minuscule maga nutsack ;);)

…otherwise, feel free to point out how great america is going atm and how exactly things are improving
(& add in how exactly the ‘teachings’ of CK and the continued musings of the orange turd will create a better world - and a safer, more cohesive world - for all)

;)

And how the fk do they tie their shoelaces in the morning??

tearymasseuse wrote:

^ well said @Salty

The most peculiar question I ponder is how anyone can really be captured by such fundamental salesmanship…
- what is it that CK and the lyin king are protecting exactly ?
…& what is the actual ‘threat’ other than a misconceived idea of not being able to control others according to some absolutist fixed world view ?

The rhetoric is full of blame and idealist fantasy, steeped in illusionary concepts of salvation and deranged empowerment…
It can only appeal to scared and fragile ppl with an inability to actually want to understand - let alone explore - the ever changing moral code of ‘treating others as you would like to be treated’.

Cornerstone teachings of compassion, forgiveness and ‘love thy neighbour’ have been hijacked by true unqualified pilots, they’re just self appointed fanatical mouthpieces of mayhem …spreading nothing but divisive & narcissistic doctrine under the cover of jebus ;)

Attempting to bulldoze others into submission with entitled, racist and bigoted opinions (masked as divinely delivered delicacies) is pure political theatre.

It is in no way freedom of speech, but simply freedom of manipulation in order to generate power and inspire a collective ‘ego’ manufactured through fear. The followers are elite pretenders who truly believe they aren’t responsible for their own inability to appease their personally produced suffering and require an ideology to buffer that insanity …

Anyone promoting CK as a good guy, as a spokesperson for traditional ‘values’ or as a representative of christian teachings are as deluded as anyone still bound to donnies minuscule maga nutsack ;);)

…otherwise, feel free to point out how great america is going atm and how exactly things are improving
(& add in how exactly the ‘teachings’ of CK and the continued musings of the orange turd will create a better world - and a safer, more cohesive world - for all)

;)

Great post tearyM

Very good posts by salty & TM . I fully understand why burleigh hasn’t come up with an answer to my questions. It’s simple enough, there isn’t one.

Trump thought CK was a good guy, you can tell by his compassionate response. The very next day Trump was filmed at a baseball game dancing to YMCA .

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…partners in crime ?
- or just misunderstood minions of apparent virtue ;)

…empathy …transparency

& seppo superficiality ;);)

- sing along now ;)

It's wild to me that the line being pushed is that make gun go bang guy had been 'radicalised' by the left, when those engravings on the bullets show that he was a dyed in the wool, right as all get out, groyper. Oh, he lived with a trans person? May have been romantic with them? Well, that would make him another in a long line of bigots who's sexual proclivities were out of line with what they publicly admitted.

Also wild, and more so, hilarious, is that the investigators let slip what the engravings on the bullets were, thinking that it was proof that a leftist was responsible.

edit: Good post btw, TM. I'm sure we'll find that boreleigh has nothing, as per. I really don't know why he continues to leave his arse hanging out like this, simping for an undeniable white supremacist/misogynist/etc

tearymasseuse wrote:

^ well said @Salty

The most peculiar question I ponder is how anyone can really be captured by such fundamental salesmanship…
- what is it that CK and the lyin king are protecting exactly ?
…& what is the actual ‘threat’ other than a misconceived idea of not being able to control others according to some absolutist fixed world view ?

The rhetoric is full of blame and idealist fantasy, steeped in illusionary concepts of salvation and deranged empowerment…
It can only appeal to scared and fragile ppl with an inability to actually want to understand - let alone explore - the ever changing moral code of ‘treating others as you would like to be treated’.

Cornerstone teachings of compassion, forgiveness and ‘love thy neighbour’ have been hijacked by true unqualified pilots, they’re just self appointed fanatical mouthpieces of mayhem …spreading nothing but divisive & narcissistic doctrine under the cover of jebus ;)

Attempting to bulldoze others into submission with entitled, racist and bigoted opinions (masked as divinely delivered delicacies) is pure political theatre.

It is in no way freedom of speech, but simply freedom of manipulation in order to generate power and inspire a collective ‘ego’ manufactured through fear. The followers are elite pretenders who truly believe they aren’t responsible for their own inability to appease their personally produced suffering and require an ideology to buffer that insanity …

Anyone promoting CK as a good guy, as a spokesperson for traditional ‘values’ or as a representative of christian teachings are as deluded as anyone still bound to donnies minuscule maga nutsack ;);)

…otherwise, feel free to point out how great america is going atm and how exactly things are improving
(& add in how exactly the ‘teachings’ of CK and the continued musings of the orange turd will create a better world - and a safer, more cohesive world - for all)

;)

Have you watched anything from CK other than short snippets fed to you by your algorithm? As i've said before i don't agree with everything he said or believed in, but geez he made some very solid arguments or certain topics.

Farg off.! What topics Burliegh?
Algorithm, I think that’s your problem.
All evidence I provided came from published news articles. The clips provide the evidence.
What topics Burliegh?
You do realise Christian Nationalist is the modern term for white supremacist. They’re more subtle these days leaving their hoods and burning crosses at home.

… hahaha
- yes, do go on burlie kirk ;)

Any answers to the questions or just more vague generalisations and deflection…

…how u say it ummm
- ‘prove me wrong’ ;);)

Hope u been praying ay noballz hahaha

& I’ve heard and watched the CK shit for years
…those clips provided are just for you tho

- coz only someone in such a state of pathetic denial with zero self awareness or empathy for other human beings could regard CK as anything other than a fuckn loudmouth fraud ;)

Carry on ;);)

Also those crime rebuttals I gave came from published news articles that quoted actual statistics from the FBI, not what came out of Trump’s mouth.

tearymasseuse wrote:

^ well said @Salty

The most peculiar question I ponder is how anyone can really be captured by such fundamental salesmanship…
- what is it that CK and the lyin king are protecting exactly ?
…& what is the actual ‘threat’ other than a misconceived idea of not being able to control others according to some absolutist fixed world view ?

The rhetoric is full of blame and idealist fantasy, steeped in illusionary concepts of salvation and deranged empowerment…
It can only appeal to scared and fragile ppl with an inability to actually want to understand - let alone explore - the ever changing moral code of ‘treating others as you would like to be treated’.

Cornerstone teachings of compassion, forgiveness and ‘love thy neighbour’ have been hijacked by true unqualified pilots, they’re just self appointed fanatical mouthpieces of mayhem …spreading nothing but divisive & narcissistic doctrine under the cover of jebus ;)

Attempting to bulldoze others into submission with entitled, racist and bigoted opinions (masked as divinely delivered delicacies) is pure political theatre.

It is in no way freedom of speech, but simply freedom of manipulation in order to generate power and inspire a collective ‘ego’ manufactured through fear. The followers are elite pretenders who truly believe they aren’t responsible for their own inability to appease their personally produced suffering and require an ideology to buffer that insanity …

Anyone promoting CK as a good guy, as a spokesperson for traditional ‘values’ or as a representative of christian teachings are as deluded as anyone still bound to donnies minuscule maga nutsack ;);)

…otherwise, feel free to point out how great america is going atm and how exactly things are improving
(& add in how exactly the ‘teachings’ of CK and the continued musings of the orange turd will create a better world - and a safer, more cohesive world - for all)

;)

Well said....

What's the bet that boreleigh hasn't even watched Cheer Up Charlie Kirk outside of snippets on his own algo

Hiccups wrote:

What's the bet that boreleigh hasn't even watched Cheer Up Charlie Kirk outside of snippets on his own algo

Wrong again 2girlsonehiccup. It's a solid pattern with you champ.

Burliegh, you’re worse than Opti on the religious thread at not answering questions. Actually zero and zero answers is equal. At least you two are into equity and non division in that regard.

seeds wrote:

Burliegh, you’re worse than Opti on the religious thread at not answering questions. Actually zero and zero answers is equal. At least you two are into equity and non division in that regard.

What was your question?

You’re too much!

burleigh wrote:

tearymasseuse wrote:

^ well said @Salty

The most peculiar question I ponder is how anyone can really be captured by such fundamental salesmanship…
- what is it that CK and the lyin king are protecting exactly ?
…& what is the actual ‘threat’ other than a misconceived idea of not being able to control others according to some absolutist fixed world view ?

The rhetoric is full of blame and idealist fantasy, steeped in illusionary concepts of salvation and deranged empowerment…
It can only appeal to scared and fragile ppl with an inability to actually want to understand - let alone explore - the ever changing moral code of ‘treating others as you would like to be treated’.

Cornerstone teachings of compassion, forgiveness and ‘love thy neighbour’ have been hijacked by true unqualified pilots, they’re just self appointed fanatical mouthpieces of mayhem …spreading nothing but divisive & narcissistic doctrine under the cover of jebus ;)

Attempting to bulldoze others into submission with entitled, racist and bigoted opinions (masked as divinely delivered delicacies) is pure political theatre.

It is in no way freedom of speech, but simply freedom of manipulation in order to generate power and inspire a collective ‘ego’ manufactured through fear. The followers are elite pretenders who truly believe they aren’t responsible for their own inability to appease their personally produced suffering and require an ideology to buffer that insanity …

Anyone promoting CK as a good guy, as a spokesperson for traditional ‘values’ or as a representative of christian teachings are as deluded as anyone still bound to donnies minuscule maga nutsack ;);)

…otherwise, feel free to point out how great america is going atm and how exactly things are improving
(& add in how exactly the ‘teachings’ of CK and the continued musings of the orange turd will create a better world - and a safer, more cohesive world - for all)

;)

Have you watched anything from CK other than short snippets fed to you by your algorithm? As i've said before i don't agree with everything he said or believed in, but geez he made some very solid arguments or certain topics.

@burleigh , I’ve only watched my instagram algorithms so could you please put up the ones where you agree with him, thank you for your attention to this matter .

seeds wrote:

Farg off.! What topics Burliegh?
Algorithm, I think that’s your problem.
All evidence I provided came from published news articles. The clips provide the evidence.
What topics Burliegh?
You do realise Christian Nationalist is the modern term for white supremacist. They’re more subtle these days leaving their hoods and burning crosses at home.

Covid, Opposing gender-affirming care for minors, Home schooling, immigration, Biology of a woman.

Have fun gents, i'll come back soon and see the aftermath of your circle jerk.

Lesson for all of us: if you agree with a fre of someone's right wing talking points, you can easily overlook misogyny and racism.

https://youtube.com/shorts/VEpag2nRaMA?si=SlKkma25IG0FEBpk

Covid, it’s over mate. Plenty of decent people have opinions on that episode.
Gender affirming, fair enough. People should make their choices once adults.
Home schooling? Who gives a shit?
Immigration? Too much or the wrong kind? Scapegoating.
Biology of a woman? Really? Once again who gives a shit. Pretty sure biology sorts that but the minor issues with sports and toilets is minuscule. It’s not the end of the world. You don’t have a problem with women wanting to be blokes though.
So you’ll overlook all his more heinous beliefs just because of those above? I can understand your opinions above but you don’t have to hitch your wagon to a bloke like that. Maybe a bit more due diligence.

seeds wrote:

Covid, it’s over mate. Plenty of decent people have opinions on that episode.
Gender affirming, fair enough. People should make their choices once adults.
Home schooling? Who gives a shit?
Immigration? Too much or the wrong kind? Scapegoating.
Biology of a woman? Really? Once again who gives a shit. Pretty sure biology sorts that but the minor issues with sports and toilets is minuscule. It’s not the end of the world. You don’t have a problem with women wanting to be blokes though.
So you’ll overlook all his more heinous beliefs just because of those above? I can understand your opinions above but you don’t have to hitch your wagon to a bloke like that. Maybe a bit more due diligence.

I haven’t hitched a wagon, I’ve always said I don’t agree with everything he stood for. You lot have carried on with the rest and it’s been pretty funny to be honest.

Here’s a more controversial one: his argument about anti abortion is strong and convincing however it hasn’t changed my mind about abortions.

He said if his 10 year old daughter (question posed by interviewer) was raped and became pregnant he would make her have the baby.
Sicko

Agent orange believes Zelenski started the war . “ The great man “ is getting more delusional by the day . His new book title should be …. The art of making shit up .

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Life tip, Boreleigh: One can agree with someone's sentiments about certain things, but if that someone also has other egregious opinions, you don't have to defend them as though someone's besmirched your mother? Fuck, there's no doubt a bunch of gronks woth podcasts that share all those acceptable, to you, opinions, but aren't racist cunts to boot.

Hiccups wrote:

Life tip, Boreleigh: One can agree with someone's sentiments about certain things, but if they also have other egregious opinions, you don't have to defend them as though someone's besmirched your mother? Fuck, there's no doubt a bunch of gronks woth podcasts that share all those acceptable, to you, opinions, but aren't racist cunts to boot.

Never defended him….. EVER

burleigh wrote:

Hiccups wrote:

Life tip, Boreleigh: One can agree with someone's sentiments about certain things, but if they also have other egregious opinions, you don't have to defend them as though someone's besmirched your mother? Fuck, there's no doubt a bunch of gronks woth podcasts that share all those acceptable, to you, opinions, but aren't racist cunts to boot.

Never defended him….. EVER

LOL

You basically asked the other day what evidence we had that he was a racist and misogynistic flog.
I implore you to look into his Turning Point bollocks. He was, and his followers are nasty.

From the other thread Burliegh. This is Charlie Kirk.

From link in ABC article is below
Occupy Democrats
@OccupyDemocrats
BREAKING: Journalist and college professor Stacey Patton goes viral by penning a stunningly powerful statement about how she was on Charlie Kirk’s “digital hit list” and recounting the horror that he inflicted on her.

We cannot allow this tragic assassination to whitewash Kirk’s legacy…

“I am on Charlie Kirk’s hit list,” Patton wrote to her 215,000 followers on Facebook. “His so-called ‘Professor Watchlist,’ run under the umbrella of Turning Point USA, is nothing more than a digital hit list for academics who dare to speak truth to power. I landed there in 2024 after writing commentary that inflamed the MAGA faithful. And once my name went up, the harassment machine roared to life.”

“For weeks my inbox and voicemail were deluged. Mostly white men spat venom through the phone: ‘bitch,’ ‘c*nt,’ ‘n****r.’ They threatened all manner of violence,” she continued.

“They overwhelmed the university’s PR lines and the president’s office with calls demanding that I be fired,” Patton wrote. “The flood was so relentless that the head of campus security reached out to offer me an escort, because they feared one of these keyboard soldiers might step out of his basement and come do me harm.”

“And I am not unique,” she added.

“Kirk’s Watchlist has terrorized legions of professors across this country. Women, Black faculty, queer scholars, basically anyone who challenged white supremacy, gun culture, or Christian nationalism suddenly found themselves targets of coordinated abuse,” Patton wrote.

“Some received death threats. Some had their jobs threatened. Some left academia entirely. Kirk sent the loud message to us: speak the truth and we will unleash the mob!” she continued.

“That is the culture of violence Charlie Kirk built. He normalized violence. He curated it, monetized it, and sicced it on anyone who dared to puncture his movement’s lies,” she wrote.

“And now, in the wake of his shooting, there’s all this national outpouring of mourning, moments of silence, yellow prayer hands, and tributes painting him as a civil debater,” Patton continued. “But the truth is that Kirk and his foot soldiers spent years terrorizing educators, trying to silence us with harassment and fear!”

“And now the same violence he unleashed on others has come full circle.”

“But what i find especially jarring is the dissonance in public mourning for a smug white man whose life work was actively hostile to certain groups,” she continued. “Kirk spent years demonizing LGBTQ people, mocking gun survivors, spewing racism about Black folks, and pushing policies that literally shorten lives.”

“It is so revolting to watch a bipartisan wave of grief sweep over this hateful racist as if he was a neutral community servant,” she concluded.

This is pure unvarnished truth from Patton. Charlie Kirk did not deserve what happened to him, but nor did his victims deserve the hell that he unleashed on them. If Americans are going to build a more peaceful future for ourselves we must condemn political violence while also condemning the hateful, bigoted rhetoric that made Kirk a multimillionaire.

Didn't he say something about rape was mostly made up by women and that consent was irrelevant if you wanted to have your way with a woman? Maybe i misheard that but pretty sure that was the gist of one of his many rants.
Would hate to be black and in his line of fire.
And what the fuck is wrong with Trans crew? They're just living their life, so let them!
Never heard of this douchebag til this week and tried to avoid knowing anything about him, but so much of his vitriol is being put out there, it's impossible to not see it.
Good friends of mine are worshipping him like the prophet and absolutely shattered and heartbroken, making facebook posts and scolding anyone that dares speak about what sort of person he was. Fucken hell.

He said if a woman first gave consent but later in the act said no, it was a grey area.
From my understanding.
edit. different topic sort of

seeds wrote:

He said if a woman first gave consent but later in the act said no, it was a grey area.
From my understanding.
edit. different topic sort of

Grey area. hahaha.
Seems about the only grey area that seems to exist on the Right funnily enough.

seeds wrote:

He said if a woman first gave consent but later in the act said no, it was a grey area.
From my understanding.
edit. different topic sort of

After this point, he claimed that women lie about being raped and sexually assaulted “all the time” and that this was the only explanation for the 1 in 5 stat.
https://medium.com/fourth-wave/charlie-kirk-is-why-we-need-feminism-6e52...

Bloody hell hey. That is putrid.
Thanks for the clarification @seeds.
Turns out it was worse than i first assumed.