That’s weird, that’s queer, that’s crazy, that deserves a long hard look.


Sounds like you're getting a slight chubby Burls.


This was plain & simple, a Left Wing terrorist attack by assassination. Incredible that the usual suspects here won't look inwardly & continue to spew their vocal minority rhetoric with glee.
This has all the hallmarks of Antifa & the truth will come out in the ensuing days.


nah.. sad, repressed bastard shot a sad, engaging arsehole.
sad for America that this shit is going on daily.
sadder still the usual suspects politicising it.




The files may be released in about 20 years , some, not all .


southernraw wrote:burleigh wrote:Trump is not going to let this slide. His good friend being killed. Look out for whatever comes next.
erm...
Nice try. Not one assumption on who it was


This is what Kirk’s Turning Point USA was all about
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-12/assassinated-right-wing-influence...
From link in ABC article is below
Occupy Democrats
@OccupyDemocrats
BREAKING: Journalist and college professor Stacey Patton goes viral by penning a stunningly powerful statement about how she was on Charlie Kirk’s “digital hit list” and recounting the horror that he inflicted on her.
We cannot allow this tragic assassination to whitewash Kirk’s legacy…
“I am on Charlie Kirk’s hit list,” Patton wrote to her 215,000 followers on Facebook. “His so-called ‘Professor Watchlist,’ run under the umbrella of Turning Point USA, is nothing more than a digital hit list for academics who dare to speak truth to power. I landed there in 2024 after writing commentary that inflamed the MAGA faithful. And once my name went up, the harassment machine roared to life.”
“For weeks my inbox and voicemail were deluged. Mostly white men spat venom through the phone: ‘bitch,’ ‘c*nt,’ ‘n****r.’ They threatened all manner of violence,” she continued.
“They overwhelmed the university’s PR lines and the president’s office with calls demanding that I be fired,” Patton wrote. “The flood was so relentless that the head of campus security reached out to offer me an escort, because they feared one of these keyboard soldiers might step out of his basement and come do me harm.”
“And I am not unique,” she added.
“Kirk’s Watchlist has terrorized legions of professors across this country. Women, Black faculty, queer scholars, basically anyone who challenged white supremacy, gun culture, or Christian nationalism suddenly found themselves targets of coordinated abuse,” Patton wrote.
“Some received death threats. Some had their jobs threatened. Some left academia entirely. Kirk sent the loud message to us: speak the truth and we will unleash the mob!” she continued.
“That is the culture of violence Charlie Kirk built. He normalized violence. He curated it, monetized it, and sicced it on anyone who dared to puncture his movement’s lies,” she wrote.
“And now, in the wake of his shooting, there’s all this national outpouring of mourning, moments of silence, yellow prayer hands, and tributes painting him as a civil debater,” Patton continued. “But the truth is that Kirk and his foot soldiers spent years terrorizing educators, trying to silence us with harassment and fear!”
“And now the same violence he unleashed on others has come full circle.”
“But what i find especially jarring is the dissonance in public mourning for a smug white man whose life work was actively hostile to certain groups,” she continued. “Kirk spent years demonizing LGBTQ people, mocking gun survivors, spewing racism about Black folks, and pushing policies that literally shorten lives.”
“It is so revolting to watch a bipartisan wave of grief sweep over this hateful racist as if he was a neutral community servant,” she concluded.
This is pure unvarnished truth from Patton. Charlie Kirk did not deserve what happened to him, but nor did his victims deserve the hell that he unleashed on them. If Americans are going to build a more peaceful future for ourselves we must condemn political violence while also condemning the hateful, bigoted rhetoric that made Kirk a multimillionaire.


Mal Caithness wrote:This was plain & simple, a Left Wing terrorist attack by assassination. Incredible that the usual suspects here won't look inwardly & continue to spew their vocal minority rhetoric with glee.
This has all the hallmarks of Antifa & the truth will come out in the ensuing days.
Quite the opposite it would appear.
Maybe info will change, but looks as if aligned with these guys.


AndyM wrote:Sounds like you're getting a slight chubby Burls.
You all good with this whataboutism Andy?


Not really engaging mate, especially with anything that includes "speaking truth to power".
Also the frenzied dissection of something we know barely anything about feels like a waste of time.
I'm going to do the vacuuming and then put another coat of killrust on the car chassis.


you got a bigpoo


you got a big bee poo in ya bonnet etarip?
aside from one line my posts were largely about social media's reaction to the killing, which was below basement level grubby to say the least
when you said it is too early to call (the killer's persuasions) I agreed, and was going to state as such
however my main point was about people's reactions to the killing, and the media's reaction to the killing
and the (lacking) reaction to the killing of the ukranian girl... which is just plain weird...
https://x.com/TheFP/status/1965459182976655733
jury's out on the current killer...
but a closet tranny, latent internal homophobic, accomplished shot (MAGA) 'liberal' is looking the best bet...
atm


and, I wasn't blaming biden
but to state you've never seen a president operate on so much on division is just plain delusional
even biden's cheersquad criticised his 'dark brandon' speech...
and biden went after his political opponents at an alarming (authoritarian) level, never really seen before
be they MAGAs, journalists, school mums, or social media and censorship
trump has done nothing of the sort
yet...


burleigh wrote:Supafreak wrote:Come on burleigh , you avoid answering other people’s simple questions yet here you are demanding what you want. It’s a sad case of one RWNJ taken out by another nut job that apparently was a republican supporter. This is how sick the society has become in the land of the free . Lucky for many the shooter is a republican , if he was a LWNJ all hell was going to break loose in revenge crimes , probably still will, Biden brainwashed him or something.
Ummmmmm ok Supa:
Based on what is publicly known, the evidence points more toward the shooter having adopted anti-fascist / anti-right-wing views, or at least believing Charlie Kirk represented the kind of “fascism” he was against. This suggests that the shooter’s ideology aligned more with what many would call left-wing activist sentiment, rather than traditional right-wing political ideology. But again, that’s based on current evidence — the full motive might be more complex.
Ahahahaha. After accusing me the other day, incorrectly, of using ChatGPT, boreleigh drops in with this, not at all reminiscent of his usual posts. Methinks lil burls doth protest too much/every burls accusation is a confession etc.


sypkan wrote:and, I wasn't blaming biden
but to state you've never seen a president operate on so much on division is just plain delusional
Who's delusional? hahahahahaha. sypkosis, you are the living end!


this little chicky - with head piercing that the MAGA's ironically often jump on...
is dead right
https://x.com/GenFlynn/status/1966667000471515452
shit's a mess, it ain't by accident
it's a development of events enacted...


predictable (non) response
from the hopelessly biased delusional hiccup
foul taste in mouth type hiccup


sypkan wrote:this little chicky - with head piercing that the MAGA's ironically often jump on...
is dead right
https://x.com/GenFlynn/status/1966667000471515452
shit's a mess, it ain't by accident
it's a development of events enacted...
She referring to Murdoch Fox etc? Or just the media she doesn't agree with?
Who tried to silence Assange?
Snowden?
How about the record number of journalists killed in Gaza.


Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Supafreak wrote:Come on burleigh , you avoid answering other people’s simple questions yet here you are demanding what you want. It’s a sad case of one RWNJ taken out by another nut job that apparently was a republican supporter. This is how sick the society has become in the land of the free . Lucky for many the shooter is a republican , if he was a LWNJ all hell was going to break loose in revenge crimes , probably still will, Biden brainwashed him or something.
Ummmmmm ok Supa:
Based on what is publicly known, the evidence points more toward the shooter having adopted anti-fascist / anti-right-wing views, or at least believing Charlie Kirk represented the kind of “fascism” he was against. This suggests that the shooter’s ideology aligned more with what many would call left-wing activist sentiment, rather than traditional right-wing political ideology. But again, that’s based on current evidence — the full motive might be more complex.Ahahahaha. After accusing me the other day, incorrectly, of using ChatGPT, boreleigh drops in with this, not at all reminiscent of his usual posts. Methinks lil burls doth protest too much/every burls accusation is a confession etc.
I thought it was very clear that i didn't write this. I'm not pretending to be someone i'm not buddy.


Mal Caithness wrote:This was plain & simple, a Left Wing terrorist attack by assassination. Incredible that the usual suspects here won't look inwardly & continue to spew their vocal minority rhetoric with glee.
This has all the hallmarks of Antifa & the truth will come out in the ensuing days.
Based on what evidence mate? Can you please justify this comment with some actual evidence, otherwise, it seems like, um, rhetoric?


I'll wait....




Truth @seeds.


southernraw wrote:Mal Caithness wrote:This was plain & simple, a Left Wing terrorist attack by assassination. Incredible that the usual suspects here won't look inwardly & continue to spew their vocal minority rhetoric with glee.
This has all the hallmarks of Antifa & the truth will come out in the ensuing days.Based on what evidence mate? Can you please justify this comment with some actual evidence, otherwise, it seems like, um, rhetoric?
Very rich Southern seeming you wrote this earlier today "Looks like another fruit loop MAGA kid with a gun that played too many video games.
Definitely Bidens fault."


burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:Mal Caithness wrote:This was plain & simple, a Left Wing terrorist attack by assassination. Incredible that the usual suspects here won't look inwardly & continue to spew their vocal minority rhetoric with glee.
This has all the hallmarks of Antifa & the truth will come out in the ensuing days.Based on what evidence mate? Can you please justify this comment with some actual evidence, otherwise, it seems like, um, rhetoric?
Very rich Southern seeming you wrote this earlier today "Looks like another fruit loop MAGA kid with a gun that played too many video games.
Definitely Bidens fault."
Yep!! It does look like that doesn't it based on the evidence. Ya know, evidence??
Btw, is your name Mal Caithness, if not, why are you replying for him?


The child to two extremely loyal MAGA parents, devout Mormons, and the bullets were enscripted with computer game references. 1 + 1 @burlz


Not that it fucken matters. Only nutjobs regardless of their beliefs shoot another person dead.
That's the point.


The fvck I need to "justify" anything to a pseudonym on a social media site @ SR.
Could be a Patsy in custody & the shooter is in another country by now. RK calls we'll all know in a week. Bwahahaa. Ongoing investigation is ... ongoing.Spitballing here mate, Trump now a shoe in for the Mid Terms. Go figure.


Mal Caithness wrote:The fvck I need to "justify" anything to a pseudonym on a social media site @ SR.
Could be a Patsy in custody & the shooter is in another country by now. RK calls we'll all know in a week. Bwahahaa. Ongoing investigation is ... ongoing.Spitballing here mate, Trump now a shoe in for the Mid Terms. Go figure.
You claimed it as left inciting hateful rhetoric with zero evidence.
That is inciting hateful rhetoric in essence. How can you not comprehend that?


Jumps on a forum in which most commenters are anonymous, and belittles them, and then asks why he has to justify his claims to anonymous pseudonyms.
Then calls insulting people spitballing.
Fark me!


Probably a more accurate description of radical lefties


Whatever. I'll cede the floor. Life's not a popularity contest. Plead guilty.


It's like trying to reason with a toddler.


Mal Caithness wrote:Whatever. I'll cede the floor. Life's not a popularity contest. Plead guilty.
I respect that.


southernraw wrote:burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:Mal Caithness wrote:This was plain & simple, a Left Wing terrorist attack by assassination. Incredible that the usual suspects here won't look inwardly & continue to spew their vocal minority rhetoric with glee.
This has all the hallmarks of Antifa & the truth will come out in the ensuing days.Based on what evidence mate? Can you please justify this comment with some actual evidence, otherwise, it seems like, um, rhetoric?
Very rich Southern seeming you wrote this earlier today "Looks like another fruit loop MAGA kid with a gun that played too many video games.
Definitely Bidens fault."Yep!! It does look like that doesn't it based on the evidence. Ya know, evidence??
Btw, is your name Mal Caithness, if not, why are you replying for him?
No official indication of political stance Southern. You're basing your opinion on his parents/grandparents MAGA circle jerk.
His bullet engravings lean more left than right. former classmate saying he's pretty left on everything. That's it.
You've made an assumption on his stance earlier today but want to call someone on their assumption and demand evidence while providing none of your own.


Roadkill wrote:Mal Caithness wrote:The fvck I need to "justify" anything to a pseudonym on a social media site @ SR.
Could be a Patsy in custody & the shooter is in another country by now. RK calls we'll all know in a week. Bwahahaa. Ongoing investigation is ... ongoing.Spitballing here mate, Trump now a shoe in for the Mid Terms. Go figure.I think you will find Trump is losing voters by the day. Hardcore maga morons will stay loyal but he is losing huge support from those who voted him in.
And the dill has never been wrong........... EVER


Random rumours - plane takes off from nearby airport about an hour after, turns transponder off, reappears and lands in same airport. Inscriptions on bullets like 0w0 and something about bulges, linked to furry culture? Who knows that is another realm. Shot was aimed at chest, missed and hit in throat (very interesting that one, throat chakra is where we express ourselves from - including typing stuff online! - and Charlie had enormous influence from this chakra. Of course that last bit is not Christian and is just my take. Kash Patel says 'see you in Valhalla' or words to that effect which also kind of misses the mark on who he was.
There's footage of someone running on the roof and jumping off by now as well. Hard to form any sort of conclusion just yet. Utah has the death penalty too.


It's all good Burl's. You reckon any of em get the use of the double entendre?
Guilty again! Enjoy the banter.


@VJ the mystery plane has been explained and ruled out. Google will reveal where I got that from but read it elsewhere as well.
“Flight tracking experts explained this as routine behavior when flying over mountainous regions like Utah and Arizona, where radar signal reception is spotty. The plane was on a pre-scheduled flight from Provo to Page, Arizona—an airport with limited radar coverage—resulting in a temporary loss of publicly available tracking data. The jet landed at Page Airport normally and then returned to Provo as scheduled. The plane’s owner, Derek Maxfield, confirmed the flight complied with FAA regulations. There is no credible evidence linking the private jet to the crime or suspect.”
Etarip pointed out to me it was a chest shot that hit its mark and ricocheted up through neck and probably brain going on how instantly dead he was. When viewing the footage you can see the initial entry point bleed but it’s overshadowed by the gush above. Guns hey? Go humans.


burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:Mal Caithness wrote:This was plain & simple, a Left Wing terrorist attack by assassination. Incredible that the usual suspects here won't look inwardly & continue to spew their vocal minority rhetoric with glee.
This has all the hallmarks of Antifa & the truth will come out in the ensuing days.Based on what evidence mate? Can you please justify this comment with some actual evidence, otherwise, it seems like, um, rhetoric?
Very rich Southern seeming you wrote this earlier today "Looks like another fruit loop MAGA kid with a gun that played too many video games.
Definitely Bidens fault."Yep!! It does look like that doesn't it based on the evidence. Ya know, evidence??
Btw, is your name Mal Caithness, if not, why are you replying for him?No official indication of political stance Southern. You're basing your opinion on his parents/grandparents MAGA circle jerk.
His bullet engravings lean more left than right. former classmate saying he's pretty left on everything. That's it.
You've made an assumption on his stance earlier today but want to call someone on their assumption and demand evidence while providing none of your own.
1 + 1 @burlz.
In law it's classified as an assumption of facts based in existing and mounting evidence.
Its quite strange to me that after 24 hours, with access to family and all his personal details and history, they haven't yet concluded which way this c#nt leaned politically. I guess it's the typical MAGA way,...when it can be used against you, best to say nothing eh??
Bit like those Epstein files huh??
Either way, it's irrelevant. It doesn't matter at all which way this person leaned politically.
They were motivated by hatred and used a bullet to kill someone.
That should be the issue, not which side he batted for. That's the point you and others here keep sorely missing and avoiding addressing.
And it was your beloved president 'the GREAT MAN' in your words that was the first to make the assertion that this was another attack by left leaning radicals and it's a war against all that's good. Strong words no? You're having a go at me, but not him?? Care to argue that case??


Mal Caithness wrote:It's all good Burl's. You reckon any of em get the use of the double entendre?
Guilty again! Enjoy the banter.
Two guiltys don't make a not guilty @mal!! :-P


Fwiw, my guess is he was just another dumb fk MAGA kid who got offended by something that this fella said that went slightly against his particular religion. As simpleton as that.


OK Cheers seeds, that one is a non-happenstance.
It's so hard to get an overall view from here as depending on the media or influencers you see, there are two different narratives of what just happened. It seems there is the possibility of a clamping down on political opponents after this assassination, hence my comparison to the Spanish civil war before. If anyone is interested, the old Granada series is especially valuable as it was done long enough ago to be able to interview some of the people closely involved:
José Calvo Sotelo's assassination is about 42:00 in and is the point of no return for two political bodies that cannot stand each other to go into open conflict. It's important to point out that there are no real winners from what followed, and the bitterness lasted 50 years+ afterward, maybe even until today.


The MAGA moronman doesn't fall far from the tree....or something...


Since some crew here want to make it about left v right....


Exactly SR
See my posted clip earlier at 3:25pm
This sod’s death is being politically weaponised and he’s not even in the ground yet.


southernraw wrote:Since some crew here want to make it about left v right....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmlAOkMIOI8
1: You're the one fuelling the left or right debate
2: Is that guy in the video using a face filter?


burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:Since some crew here want to make it about left v right....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmlAOkMIOI81: You're the one fuelling the left or right debate
2: Is that guy in the video using a face filter?
1. Just responding to comments as fair debate when there's fingerpointing.
2. If he is, i'd like it for myself
3. You didn't answer the question about Trump making this political and demonising the Left?
Your thoughts on this would be valued.
Go.
Influencer being an influencer.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/influencer-roasted...