All Things Religion Thread


“ I Just pray that the Lord would keep me safe”…..Erin Brooks.
Yep.


yeh, that's about all there is, now, for those who do that thing you do, @Optimist.
(I hope healths are Okay, please let us know if there is darkness there,
there are thoughtful and caring people here, and there is only goodwill,at the end of the day).
the abrahamic faiths have chosen to prove themselves a failed experiment.
just a human exploit, people have thrived and people have been tortured within it.
Like all the systems of herding humans into though that have been proffered.
it is human. we do our best. we do our worst. we just do, and carry on.
'good and evil' is our human invention, based on our nature.
we are always in the middle by definition; everything is based on man's perspective.
(battle as hard as you want. If you aren't in the middle, you aren't with the humans.)
we all find ways to head in the right direction, and feel pangs about our poor behaviors..
it is human. It is animalistic. We care. We love. We breed, we eat and play and pray.
Nothing needed from planet cloudland. Never has been. Never will be.
Peace, fellow hominid. Please, work towards NOT reducing our shared journey to pixie dust.


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Numbers 31
(and the rest of it)
Doesn’t sound real godly. Sounds like a bunch of humans doing what humans do.
Nice bit of storytelling mixed with the worst of the conquering armies atrocities.
In some ways it mirrors the rise of Zionism in the Levant in modern times.


THE BLOOD COVENANT….
Since the beginning of this civilisation, there has been one contract throughout humanity that was never to be broken. Everyone on earth understands it.
It was a blood covenant ….a contract between two people…a blood brotherhood.
Some cultures would make an incision in their skin and press the two together to mingle the blood.
Some would mingle a few drops of each others blood into a drink like wine etc and then drink it.
Usually an exchange of important gifts would also occur to make the occasion more memorable to the witnesses of the event.
After this covenant was cut between two peoples…..no one would dare break it.
It was in blood….it meant something special…
….it also meant that every asset from one party was available to the other and likewise from the other.
Peace and prosperity followed as no one would dare break the covenant.
How much more powerful is a blood covenant from God himself.
When He shed the blood of His own son for the wiping away of our sins.
If we accept this covenant gift something incredible happens.
We have a contract with God…..in blood….Jesus blood.
We are adopted into the family of God, our sins forgotten …a new life begins.
A shakey start at first and we will stumble a lot but through the covenant everything God has is for you and also everything we have is for Him.
When you finally digest what’s going on , it’s a truly beautiful thing.
This civilisation is passing away….lies taken as truth and truth as lies…
You can feel it in the air….
The world seems upside down ….but be comforted…
A new civilisation is planned.
A final civilisation born from the freedom of choice between good and evil..
And a life raft from God Himself.
Luke 22:20…..”..In the same way, after the supper, He ( Jesus) took the cup and said, this cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you”.


^ jesus fucking christ what a fuckn load of horseshit !!
- the chronicles of chronic colonic comedic flopti fantasy floweth on ;)
…a new final civilisation of spoon fed delusional blood inspired blood drinking blood covenant imaginary storytelling hogwash and hubris ;);)
It’s no wonder you’re part of the israeli genocide cheer squad… u cunt haha
The acid back in the day must’ve really fucked with your sanity flopti - still here spewing insane ‘you can feel it in the air’ imaginary diatribe ;)
Farkn hell it’s a good laugh
- all things religion (aka yeh sure some dude came to earth to get nailed so we could worship a zombie whose gonna return after being dead for thousands of years to save a bunch of nutter war mongering baby killers)
Hahaha spoon fed fuckn merchants of death and misery
Carry on ;)


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Optimist wrote:THE BLOOD COVENANT….
Since the beginning of this civilisation, there has been one contract throughout humanity that was never to be broken. Everyone on earth understands it.
It was a blood covenant ….a contract between two people…a blood brotherhood.
Some cultures would make an incision in their skin and press the two together to mingle the blood.
Some would mingle a few drops of each others blood into a drink like wine etc and then drink it.
Usually an exchange of important gifts would also occur to make the occasion more memorable to the witnesses of the event.
After this covenant was cut between two peoples…..no one would dare break it.
It was in blood….it meant something special…
….it also meant that every asset from one party was available to the other and likewise from the other.
Peace and prosperity followed as no one would dare break the covenant.
How much more powerful is a blood covenant from God himself.
When He shed the blood of His own son for the wiping away of our sins.
If we accept this covenant gift something incredible happens.
We have a contract with God…..in blood….Jesus blood.
We are adopted into the family of God, our sins forgotten …a new life begins.
A shakey start at first and we will stumble a lot but through the covenant everything God has is for you and also everything we have is for Him.
When you finally digest what’s going on , it’s a truly beautiful thing.
This civilisation is passing away….lies taken as truth and truth as lies…
You can feel it in the air….
The world seems upside down ….but be comforted…
A new civilisation is planned.
A final civilisation born from the freedom of choice between good and evil..
And a life raft from God Himself.
Luke 22:20…..”..In the same way, after the supper, He ( Jesus) took the cup and said, this cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you”.
This sounds like a real sermon that you might have given. Creative analogy.


- blood covenants


^^mordern way of extracting your blood brother’s palm cut, erm, blood of Christ?
Simples.
Shame consent for that brotherhood is non existent these days.
BTW, did Mary consent to being impregnated by God? Not even any foreplay? Oh no, God you selfish bastard! (and let’s not mention that maybe the cops should’ve been called)




- logic trumps the simples superstition & sick superiority complex(ity)
…can’t argue facts over fantasy (unless you’re a brainwashed ‘believer’)
;)


^ hard to argue against that.


…all things haha
;)
;);)


There are lots of little men in this world screaming out against things that are just too big for them to understand simply to try and elevate their tiny selves.


^ hahaha exactly, summed yourself up perfectly ;);)
…keep banging that drum ya lil bunny boiler ;)
&pp=0gcJCRsBo7VqN5tD& here I was just thinking you were a cool guy - having a chill day ;)
…carry on haha


… go flopti rocketman ;)
- all aboard!
Next destination… planet heaven hahaha
&pp=0gcJCRsBo7VqN5tD- the best bit about you flopti is that you’re a genocide cheering racist piece of shit ;)
… so lovely for you to open up about it and admit it freely
Don’t forget to bang those grannies ay ;);)


Provision can come in many strange forms when God hears you.
Never rule anything out …..so ask.
Many years ago, I was running an outreach ministry by the sea.
It was a great time but I was battling financially being busy with all kinds of programs and no outside support.
There was a kid in our church who really wanted to be and surf like his dad.
His dad was quite well off but hadn’t ever bought him a surfboard. He was a bit tight that way.
I got my hands on an old kid size board and stripped it back,
….put a new tinted filler coat on it and bought a new fin it needed.
It looked really good and I rang the guy and said that I had a board for his son.
Now I’ve always had a bad habit of spending every last dollar on something to finish it because I just can’t stand something that’s unfinished.
No matter what it is.
I was praying that maybe the dad would offer me a few bucks for what I’d done just to cover the repairs and $20 would be perfect…..I was broke.
They came over and wandered up the lawn to my little workshop in the centre of the complex.
The kid was stoked and dad was impressed with the new shooter.
I was not worried at all but thinking “ I hope he offers me a few bucks even $20 would do.”
While looking at the board sitting on the outside stands, a gust of wind came out of nowhere and this piece of paper danced and spun up the hill toward us..
We were all looking at it until it stuck to my leg.
It was a $20 note…….
I asked if it was theirs and they said no they hadn’t dropped it.
God is a funny guy sometimes and works in mysterious ways.
Had my $20 and got some groceries…
Over the last 40 years I’ve got so many stories of provision from little to big.
Supernatural provision, unexplainable except from a loving God who is interested in you and what your doing.


I’ve over the years found a hungy, a twenty and so much shrapnel it’s not funny. I never saw gawd once. Just dumb luck dumb arse.


^ hahaha yesssss
- the answer is ummmm blowing in z wind ;)
Just like flopti blowing bibi the way a priest goes for kiddy love
…the floptiverse, ruled by deceit, fantasy, hypocrisy and delusion ;);)
Carry on…
SIGNS OF A COMPULSIVE LIAR
People are occasionally dishonest. However, pathological liars lie a lot more even when the context does not demand dishonesty. The following are the traits that are often found in pathological liars:
Their lies are usually believable with a bit of truth in them. A person who fell and got a scratch might lie to their boss that they broke a bone.
They lie even when they are not under any form of pressure. Someone trying to hide an affair by lying about it isn’t necessarily a pathological liar since they are lying for a reason (to hide it). However, a college dropout who is always claiming to have a Ph.D. will qualify as one.
Their lies are mainly to make them look like good people or heroes. This is done mostly to gain acceptance, admiration, or sympathy.
Internal motivations drive these lies. For instance, a child who lies compulsively to get out of trouble and has strict and abusive parents cannot be classified as a pathological or compulsive liar because their lying is triggered by an outside factor (their parents).
While some people lie to get out of trouble or avoid uncomfortable situations, a pathological liar just tells lies and lies and stories with no clear benefit. This is because other people’s lies serve a clear purpose, whereas their lies have no such purpose.
Because the person lying has nothing to gain from their lies, friends and family members may find this to be especially frustrating.
Their lies are usually dramatic, exaggerated, and complicated but very detailed. Pathological/compulsive liars are good at telling stories so they can tell detailed, colorful, believable, and convincing lies.
They might become delusional and begin to believe their lies because oftentimes, they tell stories that fall between conscious lying and delusional tales.
A pathological liar tells lies and stories that fall somewhere between conscious lying and delusion. They sometimes believe their lies.


Bullshit alright!
Rich surfer dad won’t buy son a surfboard. Haha, sounds legit.


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It's a sweet story, @Opti. we are a wonderfully creative animal. You have within you the same wonder that led us towards new horizons, create art and build amzing things and to ride waves for no reason. The same wonder leads people to look for sasquatch, and believe in aliens. confirmation bias, mass hysteria, formative experiences all add to how we express our imagination. If it gives you comfort, bully for you! I'm a fan of that. But sympathising with a people and not another people. Or suggesting some people are less deserving of basic human rights cos you don't like their culture or the extremes of their ideology (I don't like the extreme of theirs or yours), nup. fail dot com forward slash Opti's face.
..but I have no problem with what you're doing : )


Well said!
I have a problem with ignoring questions, when you call Jesus your friend and claim that you know him.
Opti comes up with with Primary School level creative writing and wants to be taken seriously.
Numbers 31 Opti?
On another matter, did the mother of your friend, Lord and Saviour consent?
And why does Leviticus sound like a rank list of laws written by a bunch of patriarchal toss pots from the dark ages instead of some devine guidance?


…wait up!
Z final bwattle is upon usssssss & it’s dem jihad dudes only, not usssssss haha
- armaggedon some guns yeeehah (the pwince of peace condoneth)
;);)




Hahaha
- sick saviours of insanity & psychopath ideologies
;);)


… I believe I can fly haha
;););)
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- be afwaid, be very afwaid ;)
& the weturn of the wabbid wabbi ;);)




…special dawg tucker box delivery


- you’re gonna have an exciting life now ;)
& spiritually enhanced choir ;);)


;)


Be packed and ready to go.....Spiritually.
When we are anticipating a new swell and have a destination in mind, we get our act together and have our bags and boards ready, car fuelled up or tickets booked...we are like organised machines.
How much more so should we be ready for "The Day Of The Lord".
Phil Collins famous song "I can feel it coming in the air tonight" used to send shivers down my spine.
Thessalonians 5... The Day of the Lord
" Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labour pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape."
Paul reminds us to be spiritually ready....to spend time with God and allow His light to penetrate your soul. This forms a father son father daughter relationship that is eternal and when that day comes that will catch everyone off guard....you will be safe.
It's what our destiny was designed to be for...
....There is a hole in our souls that only God can fill and its the reason people chase all kinds of stuff to try and fill the hole.
life is to be enjoyed and for you to prosper and be happy....within Gods standards....within His light.
His light shines on you and you will feel warmth or the need for just change...which is usually a constant.
Both are good things....He will help you always.
So include the love Christ has for you in that life....
...then, night or day, good or bad your son and daughtership with God will have you packed and ready for anything....
Its a nice day for church...
......."sunday mornin and an hour at church then I think I'll have a beer with the boys at lunch"....Ganggajang.


…..thank you paul ;)
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- It's ummmmm what our destiny was designed to be for...
;);)
& ....you will be ummmmm safe.
;)


I’m now officially a believer. How could I deny it after this.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zuRdzl9E6UM?si=ItcJQrCNuc46xI7s


…..hahahaha


Ha
I wish I could dance like that


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- “ God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance. “
…non fiction facts ;);)


Ive tried to discuss science with you teary jelly……how it relates…
But it’s like discussing something with a chimpanzee …..
All you get in return is……aaaarrrrkkkk……aaaarrrrkkk….aaarrrkkkk….and then you throw your own excrement at me……..and others.
The arse end diarrhoea of you tube….
Because your an idiot.


^ hahaha
- wrong, you just have what you believe ;)
…which is in no way based in reality, or based on logic or fact.
An ‘idiot’ like yourself will continue to deny, deflect and falsely accuse ;);)
- otherwise you could offer something to debunk or disprove things
… with evidence hahaha
But keep ‘trying’ ya fuckn eternal bullshit artist ;);)
- or disprove whatever you can only criticise (out of ignorance)
… yet not actually prove as being false in any capacity whatsoever
(‘Because your an idiot’ - notice how you can’t even spell properly haha)
- because you’re an idiot (fixed it for you ya dumb cunt)
Carry on ;)
…keep eating shit tho grandma flopti hahaha
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…ummmmm
- ‘science’ & ‘how it relates’ hahahahahaha
;);)
“… I'd lived through and survived the 70's and saw many friends die from heroin etc. Some were my older surf heroes from Norah Head, Toukley, Budgewoi and Sydney. When I watch my favorite movie Forrest Gump, just before the scene where Jenny is about to jump, and I see those guys hitting up, it sends a shiver down my spine as I was there and saw it all. I was a bit too young to join in then but I felt the pain. I stuck to weed.
At 19, I picked up a book called "the miracle of fasting" By Paul C Bragg. It looked good to me ,so detox here we come. After 3 days on just distilled water all this shit started coming out of me. Two weeks later I did 4 days the same and felt amazing afterward. so much so that I started running everywhere instead of driving just to burn it up. The strange thing was I would swear God was talking to me at night in these amazing dreams etc. I blew it off and forgot it and stayed super fit for a few years until I moved up the north coast and built a log cabin on a rented 5 acres for $5 per week and had a family in 1978. Nice cabin $2000 all up, hand adzed and chain sawed, vegies and weed growing side by side in my patch. Handyman business to farmers, livin the dream, surfing quiet places like Angourie among many others. Anyway all my mates from south came to visit and loved what I was doing and wanted to do likewise. So they did, all up 50 of em including girlfriends etc. Turned into quite a community but then the greed came too. Big crops, big money, agro, accusations against each other, guns you name it. I started to hate them and what they had brought to my rural community. I was feeling so shit guilty that I went squatting in an old miners hut with my family just to get away from the parties etc and my friends.
It was there Mr Balance that I poured my heart out to a big open sky, I knew there was a God there somewhere, I can do the maths and physics, I'm not an idiot.
Anyway, I prayed for forgiveness and He answered me. So powerful it was it transformed me and I was never the same again. I was 24 years old.
So I left my cabin, my friends etc and traveled studying the original King James 1611 Version Bible. Preached and taught in many places all over the east coast about the love of God and His son Jesus.Was invited to schools by principles to teach on love and community etc. For years though, I couldn't figure out how, if God was God how could Jesus be God too? He showed me one day, while fasting again and it was so simple I missed it. Every man and "Womb" man or woman, have their own spirit or "ghost" if you like. Your flesh and your spirit make you a living soul. When you die your spirit goes back to the Father who gave it. Jesus on the other hand is different. How many times have you heard "that boy is just like his dad". well Jesus is so much like His dad that He is His dad. Jesus and the Father have and share the same ghost or spirit so they are totally interconnected. Two bodies, one person. One too big to see, the other visible and connected to creation.
God is not a pussy though I must say, and not to be messed with, he has His ways and He is a serious but very loving dad. Just like all good dads should be. He is patient and sends rain on the evil and the good until His day of reckoning which is not far away if you've been paying attention to world events. I'm quite sure he is about to hit the reset button but a new Anti Christ who will make Hitler look soft is to come yet. Jesus came from His throne to earth to be just like us, grow up like us among us, to teach us then substitute for us ..Blood for Blood..Life for Life...sin requires death..Penalty paid in full for us on that cross. Would I go about things that way...probably not but who thinks like God? He definitely has His own way of doing things. This can be clearly seen in His created things which must have taken a billion years to dream up. Have there been civilizations before ours, probably but what kind I don't know, as He doesn't talk about such things, He merely wipes them away. My thoughts or guess are another race of what we call fallen angelic beings before us. Lucifer being one of them. He got chucked out of his world long ago with many others. God changed his name from Lucifer "illuminated one" to Satan "destroyer"....Anyway its all in the bible, easy to read versions around these days too. I have experienced things you would not believe if I told you. I have been so grateful to God for having an interest in me all these years simply because I had an open mind while here flying around the sun at 100,000 Klm per hour.
I think there are two types of people, the ones who find out there is a bomb in the building and run for it, and the others who run around telling everyone there is a bomb while being called delusional and an idiot. ...you can decide which one I am. “
…carry on ;)
- & notice it’s your own excrement coming back at you hahaha
(nice try with the feigning accountability tho)


Hahahaha (science and how it relates) :
“If your stuck at home and not going anywhere don't worry, just sit in your favorite chair, close your eyes and picture yourself in your exact spot on the earth. Then really see yourself in your chair travelling through space around the sun at 107,000klm per hour. That's a rush right there.
Now I have been around Lakeside raceway at over 200kph and that was fast but this is something else. An even more amazing thing is, that the area you cover during any given period is exactly the same formula for all orbiting bodies. Yes, God has made one simple maths formula for all orbiting things. Even comets obey the same laws and cover the same amount of area per time period regardless of where they are on the ellipse of an orbit. (See Keplers Law of Harmonies). 4000 years ago when the book of Job was written, God speaks to Job about Arcturus and "its bodies" or "Sons" that no one could even see until the invention of the modern telescope. He also mentions "the treasures of the snow" (Job 38) which was nonsense until the modern microscope was invented thousands of years later. Life is full of mystery and hidden treasure including Gods love for His free thinking and free choosing people that He created.“
& (scientific storytelling) :
“ I was completely healed without any surgery or radiation. After having my scans etc, I went to my GP who started crying when he saw me. I thought "this is not good". After getting the news and a big cry session with my wife, I was booked in to St Vincent's private hospital in Lismore for 2 weeks later even though I was a public patient. It was during these 2 weeks that I sorted myself with God ( as per last post) and was healed. Went to oncology in Lismore and scanned again. The guys compared the two scans and couldn't believe their eyes. All I had was some minor 5mm wide scarring where the massive growth was. They wanted to test that anyway so into the machine I went and an x-ray guided needle went in through my back. They got their sample but punctured my lung. Cheers for that fellas. Laid on a bed for a while coughing up blood until it sealed up then off home.”
& ‘scientific’ storytelling and ‘how it relates’ to insane delusions ;);)
…the pinnacle of human deception and confirmation bias fantasy :
“ Standard medical care and process is always the best way. But divine intervention is always welcome. My CT with that creepy dye showed the solid mass clearly and I'm sure I still have the X-rays somewhere around the place. The point is that my GP said definitely a growth. Booked into oncology for type of growth and treatment. Got to oncology and growth gone. Took sample of lung scar tissue and nothing to report but a harmless grey goo...all good. Take it how you like Jelly but that's what happened and you’re very welcome to not believe it. I'm just sharing personal experiences here and not trying to prove anything. I've got a heap of stories over my Christian walk of 40 years that make that one look lame. I don't know how God works, but it certainly is in mysterious ways. “
- keep trying lame lawd fraud hahahaha


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Your a strange one teary Jelly, obsessed or possessed I’m not sure….
Digging out old posts of mine from years ago and adding commentary to them is really quite flattering.
People can read what I posted years ago all over again.
Except for jelly’s additions, I stand by all of them as the experiences are true and have been a part of my very interesting life….unlike some peoples lives…
I encourage for everyone who is interested to go back over the 5 years of my posts and have a read.
There are some deep thoughts, interesting experiences , some miracles , some science and physics and some angry rants about evil global powers.
But above all, as a man who loves people, the sea and has personal experience with Christ our saviour, I’ve enjoyed sharing it all….no matter how strange it seems sometimes.
Life is amazing, because God is amazing…..and the nearer you draw near to Him and His son….the better it gets…….and the more you change and transform into someone new…..
Because that’s Gods ultimate goal…..not to be conformed to the pattern of this world…..but to be transformed by the renewing of your mind…
Even base people like teary jelly can make it ……if they would only open their hearts……and allow God to move.


^ hahaha
…fuckn hell you’re a funny cunt flopti ;)
(or should I say John Daker mystical fantasy story maker haha)
- float on u fanatical not at all strange fuckn follower of figments ;);)


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Here you go optimist
Not sure my motivation...my instinctive need to stick up for the underdog...my secret desire to be one day honoured rightfully with the role of Forum moderator (expecting a call any day)...
But anyway I couldn't help but read your troubles on another thread...unfortunately I found myself siding with everyone's posts...other than your own...except for the part where you were told you can't post here!
So I put my low IQ mind to coming up with a solution that suits all...and here it is...a safe place if you like
You can post anything you like about your beliefs...and no one has to read it unless they want! Easy peasy...
maybe you could even get Jesus, fat Buddha, Mohammed, and friends to converse in adult conversation here
Solving the world problems, one at a time...call it taking a shovel as a way of moving that mountain
All the best...brother
PS...I actually was born again once, but I grew up, and grew a brain of my own...and realised it was all a load of shit!