Australia - you're standing in it

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Sheepdog started the topic in Friday, 18 Sep 2020 at 11:51am

The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.

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andy-mac Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 7:06pm
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cheers, @a-m, all good people here, so I'm certainly not soap-boxing..

..immigration is not a pyramid scheme, as most know, or a golden goose, it has literally built our brilliant country, Australia. And should be discussed evenly and calmly.
[NB. those pissweak inbred c*&nts in their neatly pressed little black costumes are complete traitors to our country. They need to be put on a little island somewhere they can boof around on, bumrushing gannet rookeries]

one such conversation could be around migrants being further encouraged to come to inland regional centres.. closest big town to me is Mount Gambier (28,000, making is SA's second largest city after Adelaide!), and new-migrants to the area (Congolese. Fillipino, Vietnamese, Thai, Argentinian, Myanmarese/Burmese... even New Zealanders) have revitalised the town, surrounding region's industry and agriculture.. anecdotally I hear regional areas all over have found the same, as the youth go chasing big city paychecks.

..tax the fucking RawEarth (sic), invest in 100% renewable tech now, protect the eco for tourism, invest in food security, distribute wealth, and stop gearing up for WWIII, and we'd be the richest country per capita in the world, and there'd be milk, honey and @Opti's $100k blocks fer all!

Very simple ey, but not easy.... :)

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velocityjohnno Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 7:23pm

India in the running to build 1 million homes in Australia:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/india-in-talks-to-constr...

The logistics of how this will actually happen, how many labourers come over, how many then live in said homes - will fuel a lot more rallies.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 7:30pm

A quick segue to Japan: Japan to get multiculturalism, 4 African 'hometowns' to be made in Japanese cities

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2025/08/28/2003842797

Vicious racist protests ensue.

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basesix Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 7:37pm

OH! First Dog on the Moon back cartooning?
awesome.. Marlton still living in Tassie..?
hope he's sitting on top of the pile of life's various pillows!

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basesix Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 7:34pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

A quick segue to Japan: Japan to get multiculturalism, 4 African 'hometowns' to be made in Japanese cities

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2025/08/28/2003842797

Vicious racist protests ensue.

you read this article, I assume?

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AlfredWallace Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 7:35pm
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Me too
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ps Syp I can’t stand fictional books either
Maybe we’re not so different after all

Seeds. Hi pal. I’ve never read a fiction book either. Non- fiction all the way for me. I don’t know what it is about fiction books, well, I suppose, it’s because they are, fiction. AW

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velocityjohnno Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 7:39pm

Finally some good demographic news:

https://x.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1961388402449744241

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seeds Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 7:43pm

Hi AW.
Never much been into make believe.
I’ve read some fiction for sure now and then that were good reads but your predilection always wins.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 7:51pm
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I watched the posted footage of the various marches and it was all very civil.
Not much in the usual sanitised news.
People just blowing off steam.
All started by an 18 year old kid in SA on tik tok.
The crowds also booed the Nazis LOL
Can’t blame people for having a rant.
It’s tough out there for some.
As my previous post said,… I had my doubts…
But I think it was all OK.
People concerned about losing an Aussie culture the world loves and lines up to get here.
I’d be more worried about the other angry marches week in week out blocking up the streets about an issue we can’t fix a very long way away.
That to me is un Australian and radical.

That's how it looked to me as well Opti. Most people uncomfortable with Nazis getting up and trying to steal the mike, some pointing out that what they want is lessened immigration rather than what the Nazis were trying to sell. Some seeing their country as unrecognisable.

For everything all of us type here, it's best described as a giant anger just under the surface that will propel this movement forward. Ie, something with a lot of energy, not a lot of centralised direction, powered by a feeling of betrayal/loss. It's happening worldwide.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 7:52pm

And I also found the Dark Nats, for a dose of wtf:

https://x.com/mattjcan/status/1958332288078586291

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seeds Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 8:08pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

And I also found the Dark Nats, for a dose of wtf:

https://x.com/mattjcan/status/1958332288078586291

What the hell was that?
Cartoon Clermont looks much nicer than real Clermont.
A local artist…

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mattlock Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 8:55pm

Really @AW.
I find it dis-ingenious that someone of your percieved intelligence would dismiss a whole branch of literature in such an off hand manner.
A lot can be learnt from fictional narratives.
For a trivial example, it was a novel that alerted me to the singular nature of a frigate-birds sternum.
Let alone what can be learnt about inter-personal relationships from fictional characters.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 9:01pm

One further point: these were working class rallies.

Might not be your personal 'working classness', but they were about the first vestige I've seen of working class people protesting in a while, perhaps since the Vic construction boys protested in Covid and the govt caved and let them work.

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basesix Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 9:19pm

2.4% unemployment in Mt Gambier.
In the bumfuck serial killer state of SA.
Working class is multicultural here as it should be.
We wouldn't survive here without immigration.
Industry, forestry, transport, agriculture, manufacturing,
viticulture, fishing.. Less than we'd like, but there you are..
(every week there's a couple houses under $350k, 6 units for less.
.. dozens of decent blocks in and around for $100k-$150k)

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basesix Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 9:26pm

thread cleanse.. we got more than enough viccos moving over the border to Gambier, Penola, Naracoorte, Millicent after they got traumatised by Andrews bad times. Nothing to see here.

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seeds Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 9:34pm

50,000 workers needed in Queensland to meet infrastructure expectations by the Olympics.
As long as their not qualified Indians bring them in.

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Supafreak Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 9:44pm
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thread cleanse.. we got more than enough viccos moving over the border to Gambier, Penola, Naracoorte, Millicent after they got traumatised by Andrews bad times. Nothing to see here.

have you thought about opening a surf school ? I could point a few thousand euro’s your way .

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basesix Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 9:46pm

..I've said too much..

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sypkan Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 10:08pm

"That's how it looked to me as well Opti. Most people uncomfortable with Nazis getting up and trying to steal the mike, some pointing out that what they want is lessened immigration rather than what the Nazis were trying to sell. Some seeing their country as unrecognisable."

not just that, I'd say 80% of the commenters on vids I've seen make a point of they are not blaming immigrants...

they are blaming GOVERNMENT!

a purposeful point made

seems a point lost on those that want to blame all australia's woes on... 'bogans blaming 'migrants'

most people know very well immigration is required and has served australia well

It's the rate that is the problem

it's outa control

and it's government that is to blame!

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sypkan Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 10:21pm

"(every week there's a couple houses under $350k, 6 units for less."

I was looking at property in mount gambler not much more than 2 years ago, on my poor man budget of less than $250k there would be about 20 properties available, with many decent, if not run down, houses in the mix... even houses around $170k (yes run down)

just had a quick look... $250k and under... 2 properties available... a 1 bedroom unit and a 2 bedroom unit... $210 - $250k

shoulda bought two of them 2 years ago!

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AndyM Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 10:32pm
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50,000 workers needed in Queensland to meet infrastructure expectations by the Olympics.
As long as their not qualified Indians bring them in.

SE Qld - a prime example of both how over-population can stuff a place and how infrastructure and services have no hope of keeping up.
The M1 motorway on the Gold Coast is at a standstill twice a day and now they're duplicating it so there can be a second motorway that's also a horror show.
Meanwhile, people keep jamming in to SE Qld, many of them getting away from Sydney and Melbourne where the population of each is now around 6 million, and growing at around 100,000 people per year in each city.
Sounds totes sustainable.
But as long as we're being inclusive, that's all that matters, right?

But it's all good because to ensure the new M1 Motorway/Coomera Connector is designed and delivered in an environmentally sensitive manner, the department has been working with a range of subject matter experts and stakeholders.

Extensive surveys have been conducted along the Stage 1 corridor since 2020, including:

-wildlife surveys to determine habitat values for native fauna, including koalas
-flora surveys to determine the presence of protected plants
-aquatic ecological surveys and water quality monitoring, including a 12-month survey within and adjacent to Coombabah Lake.

Sweet, it's all environmentally sensitive then eh?

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basesix Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 10:28pm

try mount burr, tantanoola, kalangadoo, glencoe, kongorong, donovans, tarpeena or nangwarry..
..all nigh Da Gambier.. which has an airport to adelaide and melbourne.

and geez, @syp. the 'deplorables' victimhood again..

I assure you, we are all bogans in regional towns,
in my one, we happily support a boutique meth community
and a lot of lovely youth who can't get out their gaming chairs.
we love our 2.4%. But migrants (and some blowin viccos) pick up the slack..

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basesix Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 10:45pm

(Heywood and the towns around Portland, Vic, are still a thing:
$170k, $260k, $299k, $360k choices atm in a cute town with an IGA, takeaways,
a pub, a primary school, high school and gov't services and council offices.
25km down the road from Portland, pop. 10,000 which has everything..
including some of the best surf, fishing, beaches, bush and wildlife in Vic.)

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seeds Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 10:38pm

Reading last week about the Tantanoola Tiger.
Never knew driving through there couple of months ago. Explains the pubs name. It was too early to be open.
Caves were shut by the time I swung back in the arvo. Missed a couple of local sights there.

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seeds Monday, 1 Sep 2025 at 10:40pm

Andy M
SE QLD is stuffed

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 12:44am

Close to it...
Ruby Princess Mick used to take out scomo's bins > that's how he sniffed out the Qld Forensic Labradoodle job..
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/morrison-port...
Top Cop cross contaminated Scomo's Upside Down Mask with his Ruby Princess Hillsong Pandemic Raid...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqebUV390GIgaByvO0...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-09/nsw-police-seize-black-box-in-rub...

Qld Premier : "Hillsong televangelists are expert at mixing & masking DNA Rape Kits!"
"Clive is the new Qld Health CHO > Has the power to certify himself & that punk tbb...
(Ok! Pretty well stuffed now...bugger!)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-14/chief-health-officer-appointment-...

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andy-mac Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 6:21am
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Andy M
SE QLD is stuffed

Yep my area is getting re zoned higher density living by looks of it.

Would rather a nice Indian family in neighbourhood than some bogan eshay petty crims that we have unfortunately had in the past.

Yep SE Qld is done....

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Supafreak Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 9:50am

Did Albo get an invite ?

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A Salty Dog Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 11:27am
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India in the running to build 1 million homes in Australia:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/india-in-talks-to-constr...

The logistics of how this will actually happen, how many labourers come over, how many then live in said homes - will fuel a lot more rallies.

Hi VJ!!

Quite a few have become agitated to say the least, about the proposal but there is no indication that there is any truth in the claims: at this stage!

Van Onselen continues to complain about immigration particularly Indian immigration, and seems to take delight in winding everyone up. Take a look at the comments on his YT videos.
Indian immigration between 2013 and 2023 more than doubled: if they overwhelmingly voted ALP in 2019 and 2022 then there is an obvious reason for it given the state of the LNP. Figures quoted for the 2022 election are not far off the TPP result but he did combine Labor and the Greens to get his 58%. The 85% vote Labor claim sounds absurd but if true, is completely understandable given the state of the Coalition. And don’t forget anyone who moved here post Covid cannot vote until at least 2026: you have to reside here for four years before you are eligible for citizenship. I tend to put Samaras’s claim in the BS category.

I pointed out to LVO many weeks ago, the AIECTA was negotiated under LNP government by Dan Tehan. This would have to be one of their few positive achievements over the last 25 years. It gave Australian exporters access to a market of 1.3 billion with tariff reductions etc, and is worth billions to us. But the other side of that deal was immigration. And Albo has further extended on that. I asked LVO if he wants to eliminate Indian immigration, he should come up with another market of 1.3 billion we can service. I’ve not received a response.

His claims of Gerrymander by immigration are nonsense. Urban planning and construction can take 10 years or more, the AEC redistribute boundaries and State Governments change. Shovelling people into specific locations on the basis they will vote for you is absurd.

Cheers!!

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sypkan Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 11:42am
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Andy M
SE QLD is stuffed

Yep my area is getting re zoned higher density living by looks of it.

Would rather a nice Indian family in neighbourhood than some bogan eshay petty crims that we have unfortunately had in the past.

Yep SE Qld is done....

so would I...

doesn't mean I want albo to import whole suburbs and transform them into little india

dude rubbing his hands together as he

'...think about the costs of australian construction, and the costs of australian real estate...'

and

'...100s of thousands of indian builders in australia...'

is not a good look...

mr. burns vibes

did albo tell us this before the last election?

did anyone vote for this?

....unions?

https://x.com/MickamiousG/status/1962618139453096245

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sypkan Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 11:47am

"His claims of Gerrymander by immigration are nonsense. Urban planning and construction can take 10 years or more, the AEC redistribute boundaries and State Governments change. Shovelling people into specific locations on the basis they will vote for you is absurd."

I read there's been more Indians migrate to australia in the last 5 or ten years than Italians in all the history of time...

something like 80% vote labor

can't blame em, why wouldn't ya?

but...

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tearymasseuse Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 11:52am

Wonder how the Indians felt when all those brits came and invaded and stole all their resources and fucked them over a few hundred years back…

Nothin like whinging white supremacists with no legs to stand on ;)

The Indian immigrants here today aren’t stealing shit, just doin everything within their legal rights as human beings to create a better life for themselves and their families.

…karma is a bitch

but ;);)

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tearymasseuse Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 11:53am
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Geezus, Syp. Malcontent does not come from external forces. It comes from internal forces. The solutions are found there and cannot be approached whilst shouting in single space. The world isn't gonna bend to your liking....ever. And it isn't "wrong" because of that.

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tearymasseuse Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 12:09pm

I read there’s been more europeans migrate to australia in the last 200 odd years than in the last 50 to 60 odd thousand years ;)

(correction: “in all the history of time... “ hahaha)

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A Salty Dog Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 12:23pm
sypkan wrote:

"His claims of Gerrymander by immigration are nonsense. Urban planning and construction can take 10 years or more, the AEC redistribute boundaries and State Governments change. Shovelling people into specific locations on the basis they will vote for you is absurd."

I read there's been more Indians migrate to australia in the last 5 or ten years than Italians in all the history of time...

something like 80% vote labor

can't blame em, why wouldn't ya?

but...

Read my post again, but engage your brain before doing so.

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sypkan Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 12:24pm

"The Indian immigrants here today aren’t stealing shit, just doin everything within their legal rights as human beings to create a better life for themselves and their families."

yep

and that's why I don't blame them!

I blame our totally inept lying government

I actually like em... (the indians) and have defended them as a block on here in the past... as every good white supremacist should...

It's the numbers jellyboy! ...the numbers of bodies... not the brown bodies...

and the desperation of our totally incompetent political class that has created this situation

can any of that possibly penetrate your skull?

which seems rather thick and impenetrable...

for jelly

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sypkan Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 12:28pm

"Read my post again, but engage your brain before doing so."

I did

it's the same old shit

yeh yeh, it's not as simple as it seems

but it also is what it is...

and I don't for a minute think you're so ideologically challenged you cannot see what it is

propaganda is what you do...

It's a convenient fringe benefit in a crisis at a minimum

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tearymasseuse Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 12:29pm
tearymasseuse wrote:
wax24 wrote:

Geezus, Syp. Malcontent does not come from external forces. It comes from internal forces. The solutions are found there and cannot be approached whilst shouting in single space. The world isn't gonna bend to your liking....ever. And it isn't "wrong" because of that.

Enjoy ya crack ;)

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tearymasseuse Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 12:32pm

& remember that time ummm

…when there has ever not been a totally inept lying government ;)

- but yeh engage ya bwain hahaha

“ yeh yeh, it's not as simple as it seems
but it also is what it is... “

^ Same old shit is all you ever got ;)

…carry on tho hissy fit syp ;);)

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tearymasseuse Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 12:47pm

‘Geezus, Syp. Malcontent does not come from external forces. It comes from internal forces. The solutions are found there and cannot be approached whilst shouting in single space. The world isn't gonna bend to your liking....ever. And it isn't "wrong" because of that.’

^ it also is what it is… ;);)

& remember you can’t yet provide any solutions nor explain concisely how these supposed outrageous immigration numbers affect you personally so just dummy spit away yay ;)

(If you’re that arrogant not to employ some introspection and just wanna live in denial & ignore advice - then don’t bother trying to give any ay mista imaginary councilla yaaah)

…it’s quite a “situation” that you’ve created ;);)

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sypkan Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 2:07pm

"& remember you can’t yet provide any solutions nor explain concisely how these supposed outrageous immigration numbers affect you personally so just dummy spit away yay ;)"

well they affect the price of my property...

so I appreciate you guys gimping for labor's absolute incompetence for that... :)

up 50% in just 2 years!

thanks jellysaltymonster

but I also appreciate that such growth is totally unsustainable and bordering on the ridiculous...

and, I'm willing to take a hit because I know it is just trashing the country for our kids

hospital waiting lists, traffic congestion, 18 months waiting just for initial consultation to see a specialist, the shitty gp office down the road that's been there forever... 'sorry we're not taking any new 'patients' ...general overdevelopment at expense of the environment, andymac's road duplication example above, trashed once local quiet places... it's all insane... the rate... the level of 'we'll sort that out later' thinking...

as the steam roller ploughs through

and these are just the beginning

the fact it's all largely on tick is the real insanity

they're simply not getting on top of anything

and simply cannot do so... their own fudged numbers even display that...

the solutions are simple, we've all talked about them before, and they largely revolve around b6's list

but no.1 is stopping the destruction

allowing a form of balance to sort itself

nature hates imbalance, it cannot go on forever...

but what puzzles me is... solution to what?

you all carry on like there's nothing wrong

dismiss, deflect, and blame...

and now you're asking me for a solution!

you guys are weird

flat out denial, accusations, and blame

really is quite odd...