UKRAINE the latest.
Russia long knew their Bomber Fleet/s were sitting ducks...
Around 1 year back Russia resumed Indo flights
By end of the year were bossing extra Terminals / Integrated ai Tranactions / Drug Security / Xrays
And of course extra Hanger Space for Commercial Aeroflot Fleets.
However the presumed threat was that NATO would bomb their Bombers.
Now! Crew probably know or see them mythical Golden Eagles littering Warmonger's Desk Sets
Russia : Orel (Eagle) + Indonesia (Garuda) = ORRUDA (Nov 2024 Joint Military Exercises)
The idea being to impress upon Indo for Aviation Allegiance.
(Pause) Likely Buddhist Defence Ministers are rewarded for Hot Wiring BRICS ( Get a temple as such )
tbb has been checking Buddhist over representation in BRICS HQ etc...
Seems as if Buddhists benefit most from Russian < > South Pacific < > Oz Dirty Laundry...
It's also how these Chinese Whispers travel so fast under the radar...just saying it's ever present.
Since Feb > Russia has been leaning on Indo to hide their Elephants in the Room.
In fact Ukraine shouted to the World...
https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.org/report-russia-is-seeking-an-airba...
Indo has been 2 timing Russia with France / India on (War Games Logistics)
But also surprisingly Oz / Asean Financing...
tbb recently reviewed Indo / Oz but there is a much bigger Future alliance on ASEAN Stage.
$1 Trillion Indo's Supa Religious Future Fund + $310 billion Oz Ai WMD Future Fund
Please do tell if any knew about Oz BIGGEST News being swept under the carpet...Huh!
https://www.thejakartapost.com/indonesia/2025/03/02/prabowos-plan-to-inc...
https://indonesiaatmelbourne.unimelb.edu.au/danantara-its-the-politics-s...
https://jakartaglobe.id/business/danantara-eyes-strategic-partnership-wi...
So we sit & wait as Indo referees Aukus / ASEAN / Russia / Ukraine's War Games
Back to this Spider Web...tbb was saying it unleashes more Civil Casualty than Hollywood Headline Grab.
Russia are right now also playing down wot tbb earlier hinted to...
tbb reported that Ukraine publicaly gloated about taking out Moving Trains ...bang on cue...BINGO!
That was an actual "Warning" Trigger Word...Pre Terrorist Claim.
Ukraine terrorists taking out Moving Trains over Bridges > Many innocents die in carnage...
Sure it all makes for a great Hollywood Action Flick...
But plain and simple ...World only sees terrorist acts upon innocents.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-01/bridge-collapses-in-russias-bryan...
No ceasefire but an even prisoner exchange and at least they talked for a bit .
No ceasefire but an even prisoner exchange and at least they talked for a bit .
Hug your loved ones.
Hegseth speaks at Shangri-La Singapore summit, and surprisingly for Trump admin, doesn't seem to be selling out allies at all...
https://news.usni.org/2025/05/31/shangri-la-u-s-will-not-be-pushed-out-o...
"The U.S. will neither be pushed out of the Indo-Pacific nor allow its allies to become subordinated by China, U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said in Singapore.
Speaking at the International Institute of Strategic Studies Shangri-La Dialogue, Hegseth struck a bullish tone, stating that America is proud to operate in the Indo-Pacific and is here to stay.
“We will continue to be an Indo-Pacific nation – with Indo-Pacific interests – for generations to come,” he said. “That starts with deterring aggression here in the Indo-Pacific, here in our priority theater, here with you, our allies and partners. The United States stands ready to work with any country that is willing to step up to preserve the peace we all hold dear.”...
"Hegseth said that the United States is not seeking conflict with China nor to instigate, subjugate or humiliate China, adding that Trump and the American people have immense respect for the Chinese people and their civilization.
“But we will not be pushed out of this critical region. And we will not let our allies and partners be subordinated and intimidated,” Hegseth said. “Through its massive military build-up and growing willingness to use military force to achieve its goals, including grey zone tactics and hybrid warfare, China has demonstrated that it wants to fundamentally alter the region’s status quo, we cannot look away and we cannot ignore it.” "
Also: since twitter/X made viewing threads member only (not going to sign up) I lost access to my favourite aviation geek girl - now found her excellent OSINT analysis on blue sky:
https://bsky.app/profile/vcdgf555.bsky.social/post/3lqmxlumuvc22
If you park it outside, you are very vulnerable, including Western air forces & bases:
https://www.twz.com/air/mass-drone-attack-on-exposed-russian-bombers-put...
Not familiar with this really, but it appears the USA via Ukraine by blowing up planes that due to treaty are to be in the open has broken the very treaty.
Pete Hegseth the Fox pundit neo nazi tattoo war monger giving assurances.
Fark he will get us into a needlesns war with China.
Interesting times.
Another guard rail for nuclear war broken.
As Sachs pointed out, these pricks in NATO, Europe. Ukraine and Russia are threatening all our lives.
China also recently released a white paper on security and their vision for the world, a summary of this here:
https://peterfrankopan.substack.com/p/chinas-new-vision-for-security-and
"The white paper does not speak softly. Nor does it hide behind platitudes. It begins by anchoring China’s national security to the very ‘leadership of the Communist Party of China’ and the ‘guidance of Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era.’ National security, in this framing, is not a discrete policy portfolio – it is a unifying principle across every domain of governance.
‘Security is the prerequisite for development, and development is the guarantee of security.’
This equation, repeated throughout the document, reveals a core theme: that China sees its continued rise not as a potential disruption to global order, but as essential to its preservation. However, the security in question is not defined narrowly. China’s approach is a ‘holistic view of national security’ (总体国家安全观). That means thinking about everything from cyber risks to grain supply chains, from ideology and culture to outer space.
Many in the west think China’s challenges for the future are about the transition of the economy, about tariffs and trade wars, or about demographics. To paraphrase a famous American catchphrase, for Beijing, the story is a simple one: it’s security, stupid."
velocityjohnno wrote:China also recently released a white paper on security and their vision for the world, a summary of this here:
https://peterfrankopan.substack.com/p/chinas-new-vision-for-security-and
"The white paper does not speak softly. Nor does it hide behind platitudes. It begins by anchoring China’s national security to the very ‘leadership of the Communist Party of China’ and the ‘guidance of Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era.’ National security, in this framing, is not a discrete policy portfolio – it is a unifying principle across every domain of governance.
‘Security is the prerequisite for development, and development is the guarantee of security.’
This equation, repeated throughout the document, reveals a core theme: that China sees its continued rise not as a potential disruption to global order, but as essential to its preservation. However, the security in question is not defined narrowly. China’s approach is a ‘holistic view of national security’ (总体国家安全观). That means thinking about everything from cyber risks to grain supply chains, from ideology and culture to outer space.
Many in the west think China’s challenges for the future are about the transition of the economy, about tariffs and trade wars, or about demographics. To paraphrase a famous American catchphrase, for Beijing, the story is a simple one: it’s security, stupid."
Sounds reasonable??
Think China’s main priority is trade and increasing its wealth, any war would hurt this goal.
Who has the most trade going through the South China Sea? China I would guess. Why does the USA and Australia need to conduct freedom of navigation exercises in this area?
Anyway this is Ukraine thread.
I have more fear of the USA atm with their present administration and global saber rattling and trade war tarrifs etc.
Empire in quick decline, and seems like they will go down swinging maybe taking the rest of the world with them.
Included as we are living through an important ideological tussle of grand proportions - will freedom, liberty, individual rights and democracy; or the state and it's dominance over the individual - be the global hegemonic form of human government in this century?
velocityjohnno wrote:Included as we are living through an important ideological tussle of grand proportions - will freedom, liberty, individual rights and democracy; or the state and it's dominance over the individual - be the global hegemonic form of human government in this century?
But does the USA really stand for freedom, liberty, individual rights and democracy?
Half to a million Indonesians killed in 65/66, from CIA listed death squads, Vietnamese killed in that war, Central / Latin Americans ( school of Americas)and Iraqis , Afghans, and some kids in Gaza being shot by snipers might not be in agreement.
And the list could be continued.
Think that myth has been busted.
@a-m:
If you’re talking about obligations under New START, there’s two issues:
1. New START allowed for an inspection regime to be conducted against designated nuclear capable platforms and assets. There’s nothing that says the aircraft need to be ‘in the open’ for counting by satellites.
2. Russia suspended its involvement in New START in February 2023 after failing to meet the access agreement for inspections. They have not withdrawn from the treaty formally.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/russia-suspends-new-start-and-increases-nu...
A couple of other things:
- Ukraine isn’t part of New START
- Ukraine doesn’t need US intelligence to target airbases. There are a range of commercial satellite imagery options that provide enough information for this type of strike. Most of the post-strike information that media is reporting is based on this - Synthetic Aperture Radar in particular.
- Russia reported concentration of these assets at some of the locations a couple of weeks ago, which they believed were outside of range of the Ukranians, to prepare for further cruise and ballistic missile strikes.
You might have missed that Russia conducted a cluster munition attack against civilians in Sumy today.
etarip wrote:@a-m:
If you’re talking about obligations under New START, there’s two issues:
1. New START allowed for an inspection regime to be conducted against designated nuclear capable platforms and assets. There’s nothing that says the aircraft need to be ‘in the open’ for counting by satellites.
2. Russia suspended its involvement in New START in February 2023 after failing to meet the access agreement for inspections. They have not withdrawn from the treaty formally.https://www.csis.org/analysis/russia-suspends-new-start-and-increases-nu...
A couple of other things:
- Ukraine isn’t part of New START
- Ukraine doesn’t need US intelligence to target airbases. There are a range of commercial satellite imagery options that provide enough information for this type of strike. Most of the post-strike information that media is reporting is based on this - Synthetic Aperture Radar in particular.
- Russia reported concentration of these assets at some of the locations a couple of weeks ago, which they believed were outside of range of the Ukranians, to prepare for further cruise and ballistic missile strikes.You might have missed that Russia conducted a cluster munition attack against civilians in Sumy today.
Hey etarip.
Thanks for info, was unsure where that stood with start.
Saying that, I reckon USA/Nato were involved in some shape or form.
Guess will never know full truth.
As for Russian attacks against Ukraine, don't misunderstand me, I'm not barracking in any way for Russia, just want it to stop, the war that is.
I don't believe Ukraine are innocent or should i say NATO/ USA are, they have been meddling since 2010 or so.
Russia not much better, but they will not stop this war until their stated war goals are achieved at least with my limited understanding.
More Ukrainians will die, and now if due to the further retaliation that will come, I just hope we can avoid a nuclear exchange.
If missiles supplied from Germany hit Moscow and the Moscow hit Germany, where does it lead or end???
Trump said he would stop this war, now he looks a fool and Putin won't believe a word he says. No more negos.
My guess is Russia will now strive for total military victory.
Will the USA get involved or walk away? Has Europe got the capacity to change the course of the war without the USA?
Fair enough - but saying that NATO and the US are worse than Russia is just as bad as barracking for Russia in my eyes.
More Russians will die than Ukrainians. On balance. That’s the way of things at the moment. More Ukrainian civilians will die in Russian attacks, but likewise, more Ukrainians will die under Russian occupation.
But Russia cannot achieve total victory. Full stop. So why won’t they negotiate?
Has Ukraine attacked Iran or North Korea? And if they did, would you consider that reasonable? Because both of those countries have openly provided weapons and personnel to Russia to invade Ukraine. Where’s the consistency?
Do you believe in Ukrainian sovereignty?
etarip wrote:Fair enough - but saying that NATO and the US are worse than Russia is just as bad as barracking for Russia in my eyes.
More Russians will die than Ukrainians. On balance. That’s the way of things at the moment. More Ukrainian civilians will die in Russian attacks, but likewise, more Ukrainians will die under Russian occupation.
But Russia cannot achieve total victory. Full stop. So why won’t they negotiate?Has Ukraine attacked Iran or North Korea? And if they did, would you consider that reasonable? Because both of those countries have openly provided weapons and personnel to Russia to invade Ukraine. Where’s the consistency?
Do you believe in Ukrainian sovereignty?
I wouldn't say they are any better or worse.
Covering old ground, but the deal at end of cold war was that NATO would not spread east, it did. Is this incorrect?
Russia from my understanding had said they would not tolerate Ukraine becoming a NATO member. Realpolitik, and they invaded in response.
2014 colour revolution... dunno?
You claiming the USA and cia have been innocent bystanders throughout this?
Ukraine sovereignty, well would the USA respect Cuba's sovereignty if it decided to host a Chinese base?
Of course not.
Goose n gander.
Don't want to get into supplying of weapons.
Where are the IDF getting this stuff from to carry out a genocide? That is whole next level evil shit.
My bad. I read your comment “Russia not much better” as making a value judgement - albeit marginal - in favour of Russia.
Ref NATO expansion - it’s reported that it was the subject of discussion at the end of the Cold War between USSR Gorbachev and then US SoS James Baker. A verbal assurance. But it wasn’t ever ratified in a treaty. But, also; it was in the context of German unification. And the USSR ceased to exist shortly afterwards. So, realpolitik - yes. But on the Russian side, they have violated the Budapest convention - an actual treaty regarding Ukraine. So, realpolitik.
Was the CIA the instigator of the Maiden revolution? Unlikely. Would they have been supportive of it? Almost certainly. It certainly captured a significant amount of public support in Ukraine and pro-Western sentiment has been on the rise since. Would Ukraine have continued to lean toward Europe and the West, like the rest of the Baltics? Almost certainly. Is there any interest in Ukraine - even in (largely) Russian-speaking Kharkiv - for a return to Russian control? Nope.
This is such a bullshit argument regarding evil NATO basing in Ukraine? Basing what exactly? Missiles? Planes? An invasion forces to storm…. Belgorad or some other rural Russian centre? Why?
When they have Finland, Poland, the Baltics. And fucking Belarus, which actually has Russian nukes based there, is closer to Berlin than Kyiv is to Moscow. It makes zero sense from a military perspective. It’s all political, sphere of influence, Russian Mir shite. Its colonialism. Pure and simples. Which you argue passionately against - and I admire - in almost every other context except this one.
Gaza - what has Ukraine got to do with that?
Cuba - if the US invaded Cuba because China had a base there I’d be surprised. China doesn’t need a base in Cuba to threaten the US with missiles. It’s not the 60s. There are ICBMs in subs and silos and it’s not that far from China over the North Pole to the US anyway. And Cuba has already signed onto the BRI.
Anyway, what’s Russia’s adjusted negotiating position since the start of the war?
couldn't agree more, but it is essential to have a crack at really understanding and empathising with any enemy.. like we do with the French, haha (how engaged is Macron?) - revolutionaries that they are... and understand their story before you enter into anything. Doesn't make them less mad, just makes us more informed.
one day we will be unafraid of the perceived 'weakness' this infers..
we will want to rein in the stormtrooper mentality for the good of the future generations,
getting a solid head of humans that laugh at snake-oil idiots and medieval warmongers.
the Ai INFO: Dmitri Shostakovich's Symphony No. 7, also known as the Leningrad Symphony, was performed by a half-starved orchestra during the siege of Leningrad in 1942. The symphony was written and premiered during a period of immense hardship for the city's residents, including the musicians who were part of the Leningrad Radio Orchestra.
etarip wrote:My bad. I read your comment “Russia not much better” as making a value judgement - albeit marginal - in favour of Russia.
Ref NATO expansion - it’s reported that it was the subject of discussion at the end of the Cold War between USSR Gorbachev and then US SoS James Baker. A verbal assurance. But it wasn’t ever ratified in a treaty. But, also; it was in the context of German unification. And the USSR ceased to exist shortly afterwards. So, realpolitik - yes. But on the Russian side, they have violated the Budapest convention - an actual treaty regarding Ukraine. So, realpolitik.
Was the CIA the instigator of the Maiden revolution? Unlikely. Would they have been supportive of it? Almost certainly. It certainly captured a significant amount of public support in Ukraine and pro-Western sentiment has been on the rise since. Would Ukraine have continued to lean toward Europe and the West, like the rest of the Baltics? Almost certainly. Is there any interest in Ukraine - even in (largely) Russian-speaking Kharkiv - for a return to Russian control? Nope.
This is such a bullshit argument regarding evil NATO basing in Ukraine? Basing what exactly? Missiles? Planes? An invasion forces to storm…. Belgorad or some other rural Russian centre? Why?
When they have Finland, Poland, the Baltics. And fucking Belarus, which actually has Russian nukes based there, is closer to Berlin than Kyiv is to Moscow. It makes zero sense from a military perspective. It’s all political, sphere of influence, Russian Mir shite. Its colonialism. Pure and simples. Which you argue passionately against - and I admire - in almost every other context except this one.Gaza - what has Ukraine got to do with that?
Cuba - if the US invaded Cuba because China had a base there I’d be surprised. China doesn’t need a base in Cuba to threaten the US with missiles. It’s not the 60s. There are ICBMs in subs and silos and it’s not that far from China over the North Pole to the US anyway. And Cuba has already signed onto the BRI.
Anyway, what’s Russia’s adjusted negotiating position since the start of the war?
OK fair points.
Why did they invade? Purely colonial aims?
Thought it was main sticking point in negotiations, Ukraine not to become member.
Gaza Ukraine was response to your Iran, north Korea statement, meaning the idf could not be doing what they are doing without US support, diplomatically and militarily.
Anyway I'm learning from your posts.
Cheers
Todays news, plenty of reasonably standard strikes by Russia that killed innocent civilians.Thats nothing new,its been happening from day 1.
The Ukes have attacked the Kerch bridge with missiles/drones by air and with underwater sea drones.Its an essential transport route to supply the Russian war effort and so is a legitimate military target.(shame because it is a great bit of engineering)...
OPERATION SPIDERWEB!....yes it's old news but will long be remembered.
18 months planning but pulled off in a very short time.
WHAT ELSE is in planning right now?...Just a guess, but plenty I would imagine.
Some are saying "retaliation" will come.Yes of course we have to expect that.
BUT, the Ukraine attacks ARE the retaliation for the 11 years of conflict that Russia has inflicted upon them.
Here's a outline of SpiderWeb.
SO, DonnyBhoi Twump had a 75 minute phn talk with WarKrim...Its retaliations!..PROMISED!
But wait a minute, 31st of May Russia launched its biggest drone/missile attack yet of the almost 40 month(3day) SillyMoronOperation...just 2 days prior to the 2nd round of Istanbul peace talks...dear oh dear.
Then June 1st(the following day)
Ukraine retaliated with some Russian trucks, driven by Russian SpiderMen who transported the TinyHome/Cabins( AKA SpiderDroneHouses).Doing a flyover of some airports that somehow exploded?
How could this happen Comrade? ....who needs an airforce when ya got SpiderMen?
Is this a bridge too far?..Not if that bridge is at Kerch.
So, now warKrim is saying no negotiations...dear oh dear,Dhonny,this is happening on your watch.
Trump , the greatest deal maker of all time , ending this war in 24 hours has been a bit much for him along with everything else.
Supafreak wrote:Trump , the greatest deal maker of all time , ending this war in 24 hours has been a bit much for him along with everything else.
Colour me shocked.
This conflict is over 1000 days and will continue for a good while yet.
Theres lots of BS floating around online( some paid for by the Ruski propagandists) so here's an opportunity to comment on whats going on if ya know?
Juzzie is a good source of info and he speaks "our" language.