UKRAINE the latest.


Plenty of articles today claiming Republican pollies realising Putin thinks Trump is a fool that he’s been playing.
Putin has escalated his attacks on Ukraine.
Trump states he doesn’t know what is wrong with Putin and he’s not happy with Putin’s actions.
Surely Trump realises Putin never had respect for him which privately would sting that huge ego.


Trump's making Neville Chamberlain look like a grand statesman.
It's like reality TV vs geopolitical grand strategy.
Sooner Trump wakes up from this the better.


I’m not sure on Chamberlain’s motivation to be a weak pissant was but Trump and his ego doesn’t have the capacity to realise what anyone outside the MAGA fishbowl really thinks of him.


Trump sure looks silly considering his claims about stopping the war on day one and his treatment of Zelensky when Zelensky told him you can’t trust Putin.


Putin seems to have lost his mind.
If anything was salvageable a few years ago by trump it seems gone now.
Even Donny can’t rein him in….their mateship we were all counting on ..gone.
Putin sees the future of more us / them democrat Cold War madness on the horizon so won’t abort his grand plan….
……whatever that is.
So is this a silly old man’s game of pride vs pride..???…probably…..thats how civilisations crash usually.
Or is this a diversion for something bigger happening behind the scenes…
Are we watching Putins left hand while the right does the real thing he’s got up his sleeve like some magician…
Because this war makes no sense at all…..they were all Russians 5 minutes ago.
Enter all of Europe now with nice new euro and U.S. guns etc.
And Albo generously signing us all up to a euro defence pact…..
Long way from straya……but not so much when he signs us into the new world order.
A communal society.
That has learnt nothing from the past.
Aussies are good fighters…..they will need to be….
Looking forward to Albos speech about how important it is to enter other peoples wars…..
Getting involved in global madness is the right thing to do……..
Because it makes me feel important……and I’ve always wanted to be important…...signed Albo.


I think it's bigger than pride for putin optimist
and I don't think he's lost his mind
bigger concepts in play, and he was never gonna back down, which is why 'the west' should've been a bit smarter, a bit more self reflective...
with a bit less hubris a lot less hubris
you're right, we're busy watching his left hand, whilst he's got his right hand...
man...
he's also got virulent determination, and self belief, in ways of doing stuff, the battle ideas
and thinks the west is a bit... well... weak as piss...
which is kinda true


bigger concepts, partners, and ways of doing stuff, ruling...
like shamelessly capitalising on the naivete of island life
taking over from within
'capturing elites'
(oz uni's any one?)
80% capture of tonga's mercantile capacity, bringing in a work force to build everything!
if nothing else they're fostering some serious 'learned helplessness'
dependence...
does mr. tonga really believe this shit he's sprouting?
naivete indeed...
meanwhile, oz is asleep at the wheel
as the defence academic chick I quoted pre election said...
whilst jim chalmers hints at some serious global threats... labor are not serious...
https://m.


Well said.
And Opti’s solution become more weak as piss by not backing allies.
Happy for our biggest allie to keep bombarding the shit out of Gaza though. What a Christian.
And you doofus there was never any admiration or friendship between Trump and Putin. It was all in Trump’s egotistical head. Did you ever hear Putin stating anything like that.


Might not like what he says, but he has been pretty accurate to date.
Alastair Crooke.
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ol' alistair crooke be right
deeper forces at play, too deep for the 'transactional peace makers' to overcome, to understand, or even appreciate...
biden had a miserable policy of bleeding em dry, with ukranian blood...
you really think xi (and others) are going to let this end like you envision quadman?
it's all in now, a fight to the bitter end, whatever that may be...
a battle of ideas, of dominance, for supremacy
crooke is right, trump missed the boat, the euros missed the boat...
biden avoided the boat
for miserable domestic political purposes...
and probably more than a touch of influence, about an incriminating crackheads laptop
putin's being playing the west for decades, probably his whole life... the 'reformer' the 'progressive' putin, ....is no such thing...
or maybe he just changed his mind
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/why-ending-war-ukraine-so-difficu...


sypkan wrote:ol' alistair crooke be right
deeper forces at play, too deep for the 'transactional peace makers' to overcome, to understand, or even appreciate...
biden had a miserable policy of bleeding em dry, with ukranian blood...
you really think xi (and others) are going to let this end like you envision quadman?
it's all in now, a fight to the bitter end, whatever that may be...
a battle of ideas, of dominance, for supremacy
crooke is right, trump missed the boat, the euros missed the boat...
biden avoided the boat
for miserable domestic political purposes...
and probably more than a touch of influence, about an incriminating crackheads laptop
putin's being playing the west for decades, probably his whole life... the 'reformer' the 'progressive' putin, ....is no such thing...
or maybe he just changed his mind
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/why-ending-war-ukraine-so-difficu...
Yep, that article seems pretty accurate and backs up Crooke, Wilkenson et al have been saying for months/ years.
Frightening now that Germany have now stopped putting limits on the range of missiles. Russia has basically said that if German missiles are used operated with the help of the German military, then that open up the potential for Russian missiles to be aimed at Germany. Not a real great scenario, WW3?
Russia do not want a cease fire as they see that as just giving Ukraine with aid of West time to re-arm and have stated they will not stop until their goals are reached. They want a bigger more encompassing plan for the future that guarantees their security, ie no NATO bases in Ukraine and neutrality.
Not arguing this is right or wrong, just what has been presented by Crooke, Sergey Lavrov etc and is the realpolitik of the situation. And this is exactly how it is playing out, Trump can rave all he likes, but he has an empty hand while Putin holds the Ace's.
The longer it continues the more people die, Europe with or without the US will eventually lose as Russia are not going anywhere, unless it turns nuclear, then bye bye Europe if not the world.
Russia will grind on as long as required.


"Russia has basically said that if German missiles are used operated with the help of the German military, then that open up the potential for Russian missiles to be aimed at Germany. Not a real great scenario, WW3?"
I wish I still had the video, that showed US UK troops essentially doing exactly this
everyone knows what's happening, both sides are doing shit with the aid of 'allies' already, just a matter of time before the reality seeps from under the cloak
seems germany is going public anyway... I hope they've got their little bomb factories on full production, because there's clearly no turning back from either side at this point...
the nato push move was / is super dumb
a suicide move
reckless hubris


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US finally realises that the communists have been scamming them royally through US universities, and actually acts on it:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/china/us-will-start-revoking-visas-of-chin...
'“The U.S. will begin revoking visas of Chinese students, including those with connections to the Chinese Communist Party or studying in critical fields,” Rubio wrote on X.
The State Department confirmed the action in a short press release, stating that it will work with the Department of Homeland Security to “aggressively revoke” the visas. It will also revise the visa criteria and “enhance scrutiny of all future visa applications” from China and Hong Kong.'
'“China is the world’s principal infringer of intellectual property. The annual cost to the U.S. economy of counterfeit goods, pirated software, and theft of trade secrets is between $225 billion and $600 billion,” the FBI states.
Rubio’s announcement comes two months after House Republicans raised the issue of Chinese student visas on March 14.
Introduced, in part, by Rep. Riley Moore (R-W. Va.), the “Stop Chinese Communist Prying by Vindicating Intellectual Safeguards in Academia Act of 2025,” or “Stop CCP VISAs Act of 2025,” would ban Chinese citizens from obtaining student visas, citing CCP-related national security concerns.
“Every year we allow nearly 300,000 Chinese nationals to come to the U.S. on student visas. We’ve literally invited the CCP to spy on our military, steal our intellectual property, and threaten national security,” Moore said in a statement to The Epoch Times.'
What is coming is the Cold War, again. Two separate economic systems, two educational systems, military rivalry. Trump has tried the olive branch while kicking allies in the teeth, and the response has been exactly as you'd imagine a Soviet bloc would respond.


@VJ , no doubt there is some truth in what they say but given it’s the epoch times and their affiliation with Falun Gong , it’s always going to be a extremely bias article . Does China steal all the intellectual property ? Or does greed from individuals selling out for short term gain play a role ?


Russia is far more brittle than people realise. Threatening to nuke your neighbours if they don’t give you what you want, but can’t actually get under your own steam, is a sign of weakness not strength.
There is a reason for their colonialist desire to control (Slavic / Orthodox) Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia and other neighbours. Because without them, Russia’s not viable as a major world player the way that the USSR was and is on a timeline to internal conflict and eventual dissolution as a Federation.
Just like the Spanish, Dutch, French and British Empires. The only difference is that the Russian empire (“Federation”) is (largely) contiguous to Russia’s borders. But no less “Imperial” or “Colonial” in design or reality.
So, the question is, what to do about that?


https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/28/rubio-revoke-chinese-students-v...
Same news from different source with different biases here Supa. Plays a bit on loss of competitiveness, and goes into CCP affiliations of prospective students/universities.
In regards to your questions, people have infinitely different motivations; if there is incentive some will sell out. Others will feel compelled to act due to nationalism, or threat. It's hard to quantify, but does go on.
Some stuff the US pioneered, and open sourced the results, and China has picked up on and run with much to their credit, like the thorium molten salt reactors, are freely given and in hindsight pretty stupid on the US's behalf.
https://www.livescience.com/china-creates-new-thorium-reactor.html


@VJ , I was looking at various sites talking about automated ports that China now has .
. https://www.lmitac.com/news/automated-ports-china-leads-the-way Wrong thread , apologies quadzilla


quadzilla wrote:andy-mac wrote:Might not like what he says, but he has been pretty accurate to date.
Alastair Crooke.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MeeE1qavSg0&pp=ygUQanVkZ2UgbmFwb2xpdGFubw%...
Just gross BS, nothing like reality.
Care to point out where?


“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.”
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quadzilla wrote:andy-mac wrote:quadzilla wrote:andy-mac wrote:Might not like what he says, but he has been pretty accurate to date.
Alastair Crooke.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MeeE1qavSg0&pp=ygUQanVkZ2UgbmFwb2xpdGFubw%...
Just gross BS, nothing like reality.
Care to point out where?
Everywhere
OK thanks for being specific...


Drones packed into roofing of portable houses, launched from there & trucks...
So this is the long-range drone Taranto. Taranto, if you recall, was when HMS Illustrious launched 21 obsolete biplanes and took out the Italian line of battle in a surprise night raid in November 1940. There are implications for this, and I'm sure you see them.
Of note was a Japanese naval aviator, Genda Minoru, putting Taranto and movie footage he saw of many American carriers together, and creating the First Air Fleet, or Kido Butai. When Japan did their 'Taranto' on Pearl Harbour, they had scale, 6 fleet carriers and about 350 aircraft.
Some very big implications in this strike.


Agree that none support Mosad style secreting of Bombs thru Civilian Neighbourhoods.
Either hiding explosives in CBD traffic or ATMs...
Ukraine now boast sabotaging moving trains the same way...
Not gonna win fans by hot wiring covert WMD theatre thru towns...
Just guessing people prefer warning of hot wiring Ammo Stores thru every Civilian Village.
Same here in Oz ...Locals don't want Israel War Machine Lego Factory soiling Aukus STEM Kindy.
Or Troops of Ex Commandos on MDMA mowing down Parades...Outta my way Marshmallows!
Like to give them a chance to evacuate in case it goes off with a bang...Oopsie...
Innocent bystanders not seeing it coming...that always hits a raw nerve.
Might work fine for Israel's Genocide...not very Euro chic!
Reckon Euro still favour borders & base camps [Us] (vs) [Them] or His & Hers War Cabinets!
Maybe not fearing ticking Time Bomb Terrorist Tradies overheating every red light
Here's the current published Russian War Timeline
Crew may well know of more predictions...these are the known high level published Warnings.
You'll note Ukraine wish Europe be Attacked Sooner than what EU may like...
Suck it Up...Themz the Breaks...
Ok guys...just be careful poking the bear...knocks 6 months of our lives!
Why! Is your posh crew scared of dying or something!
Year... EU Nation / Diplomat
2025 Danish Intelligence + US ( Pollies Drooling!) Do It! Do It!
2027 Ukraine (SZRU) + UK Defence Expert
2028 Ukraine Prez starts to wear Cammo ensembles twice + Estonia PM / EU / Dutch PM
2029 German Defence Chief / UK PM
2030 NATO / Poland Foreign Minister / Danish Defence
Ai is the only Peacenik negotiator holding out for Post 2030 Russian War / Invasion
[Factcheck] NATO can't afford to hire one lousy peace negotiator ( Not kidding! )
NATO : "If ya must know...we spend a small fortune Training & Arming Peace Keeping Troops! So F.U.!"
Google : "Ai is a better peace negotiator than all EU / NATO combined...Robots prefer peace!"
Once pissweak Eurotrash kill each other and the Dust Settles.
2033 Russian Failed State begins breaking apart (As Large Panel of 100's EU Experts predicted)
2035 NATO inches toward a weakened Russia (Russian Defence prepares for Nazi's Final Solution!)
Don't shoot the messenger...just what is shared in Media...


Reckon this attack could be the equivalent to Pearl Harbour to the Japanese.
Let's see how Russia reacts, especially after assassination attempt on Putin.
Reckon he may take the gloves off.
Frightening....


quadzilla wrote:andy-mac wrote:Reckon this attack could be the equivalent to Pearl Harbour to the Japanese.
Let's see how Russia reacts, especially after assassination attempt on Putin.
Reckon he may take the gloves off.
Frightening....BHA ha ha, nothing like pearl harbour...you read too many click bait headlines AND believe them.
Russian gloves are on their Donkeys they are bringing in the supplies to the front with.Thats when theirs no e scooters and golf carts!
Maybe you are correct? Don't know, but I guess we will find out before too long.


Reckon you could cut the air with a knife .


It’s interesting that not many people are discussing Russia’s largest ever drone / missile strike on Ukrainian cities the day before the Ukrainian Op Spider Web.
We’ve been so desensitised to Russian war crimes that they’re barely even a blip on the radar. But a well executed strike against legitimate military targets is grounds for further escalation by Putin in the eyes of his apologists? Bizarre.


No apologists here, just trying to watch what is going on.
NATO seem to be pushing for further war, if other countries were doing to the USA what the West is doing to Russia, I reckon the USA would have nuked them by now.
Russian history in WW2 with Germany, and now Germany are talking sending long range missiles to Moscow. What could possibly go wrong??
Also read that the bombers that were hit are part of a nuclear deal with the USA that they are kept in open (as in the USA) so countries can monitor their whereabouts for transparency. Could the Ukraine have done this without NATO/ US help? Guessing no.
That, and attempted assassination on Putin (what would happen to Iran if they clearly tried to kill Trump?) surely will escalate things. Quad seems to argue they are not capable, I would argue they are but just biding time with their grinding war machine. Maybe this may now change.
Oreshnik??
This conflict is over 1000 days and will continue for a good while yet.
Theres lots of BS floating around online( some paid for by the Ruski propagandists) so here's an opportunity to comment on whats going on if ya know?
Juzzie is a good source of info and he speaks "our" language.