Next Federal Election
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GuySmiley wrote:Vote 1 Ben Smith for Flinders
He’s certainly attracted a lot of attention from the LP. We have had a few flyers trying to paint him in a negative light and there is a war of words going on in the Local Paper between his supporters and the LP .
Strangely we’ve seen little from Labor’s Sarah Race.
Labor have little chance in Flinders but a Smith victory would make me happy.
McKenzie is next to useless.
We used to be in Dunkley and Peta Murphy was brilliant. Jodie Belyea seems to be carrying Peta’s work. I hope she holds her seat, Conroy is a dickhead.
zenagain wrote:"Or just happened to buy bank shares on the eve of the bank bail out announcement.
Insider trading is against the law, little bit more serious than a trip"
I cannot for the life of me understand why this has not gotten more traction? They hounded and pursued that husband of that Sydney PR chick into jail for minor insider trading and Dutton 'coincidentally' bought bank shares on the eve of the government announcing what amounted to a bank bailout netting old Dutts and nice little earn.
The only reason I can see that it's not being pursued is the fact the he more than likely wasn't the only pollie to benefit from that insider info.
The guys a fucking crook and could quite likely be our next PM.
I'm sorry, but I just cannot see how an ex-cop can amass a quarter of a billion dollar fortune by 'shrewd' investing.
My arse.
Would you accept Zen, Dutton wasn't the only person in oz to buy bank shares on the eve of the bank bailout? My neighbour, financial advisor, transferred almost 30% of his self-managed super fund into bank shares before Dutton did, even advised me to do so and I didn't, been rueing that ever since.
Would you accept there are people smarter than you and I with their money? Ray Dalio predicted it and made a motsa.
If, as you say, the reason this was not made a big deal of is because other politicians got on board, say a Labor politician, would you hold their feet to the flames? Throw them in front of a judge?
A cop making a lot of money doesn't sit well with you, he bought a house at the age of 19, what were you doing at that age? I was chasing girls and waves.
As a similar comparison, do you think a life-long pubic servant can buy a clifftop beach pad for 4 mill cash? no mortgage, no questions there?
I accept spud has run a poor campaign and will most likely lose and be replaced as the Lib leader but having a go because he, and a shitload of other smarter australians made a lot of money from the bailout is not fair. In hindsight, I asked my neighbour how the fuck he could take that kind of risk, his reply was simple, what the fuck else was every government affected by the GFC going to do? If our banking system collapses, civilised society as we know it is finished! we enter complete chaos and anarchy! Of course they were going to bail them out! In retrospect we were dumb as rocks for not seeing it!
A bet is a bet but his proximity to the decision makes it smell like a bucket of prawns in the sun.
Peter Reynolds][quote=zenagain wrote:" but having a go because he, and a shitload of other smarter australians made a lot of money from the bailout is not fair.
I think it's fair in the overall scheme of things Peter. The shitload of other smarter Australians weren't in the higher echelon of Australian politics (not that we know of) when the deals went down. Let's just assume it was insider training for a sec. If that is the case we're headed for Banana Republic status if crooks like Peter Dutton even get a sniff of being the leader of this country. It's that simple.
As for Albo's MacMansion did you ever consider that his fiancee might be cashed up enough to afford it. Unless you know otherwise??
Peter Reynolds wrote:zenagain wrote:"Or just happened to buy bank shares on the eve of the bank bail out announcement.
Insider trading is against the law, little bit more serious than a trip"
I cannot for the life of me understand why this has not gotten more traction? They hounded and pursued that husband of that Sydney PR chick into jail for minor insider trading and Dutton 'coincidentally' bought bank shares on the eve of the government announcing what amounted to a bank bailout netting old Dutts and nice little earn.
The only reason I can see that it's not being pursued is the fact the he more than likely wasn't the only pollie to benefit from that insider info.
The guys a fucking crook and could quite likely be our next PM.
I'm sorry, but I just cannot see how an ex-cop can amass a quarter of a billion dollar fortune by 'shrewd' investing.
My arse.
Would you accept Zen, Dutton wasn't the only person in oz to buy bank shares on the eve of the bank bailout? My neighbour, financial advisor, transferred almost 30% of his self-managed super fund into bank shares before Dutton did, even advised me to do so and I didn't, been rueing that ever since.
Would you accept there are people smarter than you and I with their money? Ray Dalio predicted it and made a motsa.
If, as you say, the reason this was not made a big deal of is because other politicians got on board, say a Labor politician, would you hold their feet to the flames? Throw them in front of a judge?
A cop making a lot of money doesn't sit well with you, he bought a house at the age of 19, what were you doing at that age? I was chasing girls and waves.
As a similar comparison, do you think a life-long pubic servant can buy a clifftop beach pad for 4 mill cash? no mortgage, no questions there?
I accept spud has run a poor campaign and will most likely lose and be replaced as the Lib leader but having a go because he, and a shitload of other smarter australians made a lot of money from the bailout is not fair. In hindsight, I asked my neighbour how the fuck he could take that kind of risk, his reply was simple, what the fuck else was every government affected by the GFC going to do? If our banking system collapses, civilised society as we know it is finished! we enter complete chaos and anarchy! Of course they were going to bail them out! In retrospect we were dumb as rocks for not seeing it!
A snivelling excuse for an unethical politician. The size of the windfall had everything to do with timing, and Dutton's move was 'too cute' to put down to luck. Months, weeks, or days out and the odds change but Dutton did it less than 24 hours before the announcement.
Politicians gaining personal advantages through political decisions white ants the whole structure. It shouldn't be allowed.
garyg1412][quote=Peter Reynolds wrote:zenagain wrote:" but having a go because he, and a shitload of other smarter australians made a lot of money from the bailout is not fair.
I think it's fair in the overall scheme of things Peter. The shitload of other smarter Australians weren't in the higher echelon of Australian politics (not that we know of) when the deals went down. Let's just assume it was insider training for a sec. If that is the case we're headed for Banana Republic status if crooks like Peter Dutton even get a sniff of being the leader of this country. It's that simple.
As for Albo's MacMansion did you ever consider that his fiancee might be cashed up enough to afford it. Unless you know otherwise??
I totally agree with you Gary, if this was insider trading we are fucked.
I don't know otherwise, for all I know his mrs is sitting on a massive inheritance, it was a poor comparison and puts my argument into the same vein as yours so your correct in calling me out on it.
garyg1412][quote=Peter Reynolds wrote:zenagain wrote:" but having a go because he, and a shitload of other smarter australians made a lot of money from the bailout is not fair.
I think it's fair in the overall scheme of things Peter. The shitload of other smarter Australians weren't in the higher echelon of Australian politics (not that we know of) when the deals went down. Let's just assume it was insider training for a sec. If that is the case we're headed for Banana Republic status if crooks like Peter Dutton even get a sniff of being the leader of this country. It's that simple.
As for Albo's MacMansion did you ever consider that his fiancee might be cashed up enough to afford it. Unless you know otherwise??
Albo has been a long serving Parliamentarian, entering in 1996.
He has been on good money and perks since then, so a 4 mil house especially if bought with a partner is not really that extravagant. Especially if he invested money in housing and or shares.
Back benchers start today on approx $230,000 pa now to give you some idea.
Mindora wrote:Peter Reynolds wrote:zenagain wrote:"Or just happened to buy bank shares on the eve of the bank bail out announcement.
Insider trading is against the law, little bit more serious than a trip"
I cannot for the life of me understand why this has not gotten more traction? They hounded and pursued that husband of that Sydney PR chick into jail for minor insider trading and Dutton 'coincidentally' bought bank shares on the eve of the government announcing what amounted to a bank bailout netting old Dutts and nice little earn.
The only reason I can see that it's not being pursued is the fact the he more than likely wasn't the only pollie to benefit from that insider info.
The guys a fucking crook and could quite likely be our next PM.
I'm sorry, but I just cannot see how an ex-cop can amass a quarter of a billion dollar fortune by 'shrewd' investing.
My arse.
Would you accept Zen, Dutton wasn't the only person in oz to buy bank shares on the eve of the bank bailout? My neighbour, financial advisor, transferred almost 30% of his self-managed super fund into bank shares before Dutton did, even advised me to do so and I didn't, been rueing that ever since.
Would you accept there are people smarter than you and I with their money? Ray Dalio predicted it and made a motsa.
If, as you say, the reason this was not made a big deal of is because other politicians got on board, say a Labor politician, would you hold their feet to the flames? Throw them in front of a judge?
A cop making a lot of money doesn't sit well with you, he bought a house at the age of 19, what were you doing at that age? I was chasing girls and waves.
As a similar comparison, do you think a life-long pubic servant can buy a clifftop beach pad for 4 mill cash? no mortgage, no questions there?
I accept spud has run a poor campaign and will most likely lose and be replaced as the Lib leader but having a go because he, and a shitload of other smarter australians made a lot of money from the bailout is not fair. In hindsight, I asked my neighbour how the fuck he could take that kind of risk, his reply was simple, what the fuck else was every government affected by the GFC going to do? If our banking system collapses, civilised society as we know it is finished! we enter complete chaos and anarchy! Of course they were going to bail them out! In retrospect we were dumb as rocks for not seeing it!A snivelling excuse for an unethical politician. The size of the windfall had everything to do with timing, and Dutton's move was 'too cute' to put down to luck. Months, weeks, or days out and the odds change but Dutton did it less than 24 hours before the announcement.
Politicians gaining personal advantages through political decisions white ants the whole structure. It shouldn't be allowed.
If it was a one off, it would be hard to believe he just timed it well.
How about Paladin, au pairs etc, Dutton has form, allegedly....
Mindora wrote:Peter Reynolds wrote:zenagain wrote:"Or just happened to buy bank shares on the eve of the bank bail out announcement.
Insider trading is against the law, little bit more serious than a trip"
I cannot for the life of me understand why this has not gotten more traction? They hounded and pursued that husband of that Sydney PR chick into jail for minor insider trading and Dutton 'coincidentally' bought bank shares on the eve of the government announcing what amounted to a bank bailout netting old Dutts and nice little earn.
The only reason I can see that it's not being pursued is the fact the he more than likely wasn't the only pollie to benefit from that insider info.
The guys a fucking crook and could quite likely be our next PM.
I'm sorry, but I just cannot see how an ex-cop can amass a quarter of a billion dollar fortune by 'shrewd' investing.
My arse.
Would you accept Zen, Dutton wasn't the only person in oz to buy bank shares on the eve of the bank bailout? My neighbour, financial advisor, transferred almost 30% of his self-managed super fund into bank shares before Dutton did, even advised me to do so and I didn't, been rueing that ever since.
Would you accept there are people smarter than you and I with their money? Ray Dalio predicted it and made a motsa.
If, as you say, the reason this was not made a big deal of is because other politicians got on board, say a Labor politician, would you hold their feet to the flames? Throw them in front of a judge?
A cop making a lot of money doesn't sit well with you, he bought a house at the age of 19, what were you doing at that age? I was chasing girls and waves.
As a similar comparison, do you think a life-long pubic servant can buy a clifftop beach pad for 4 mill cash? no mortgage, no questions there?
I accept spud has run a poor campaign and will most likely lose and be replaced as the Lib leader but having a go because he, and a shitload of other smarter australians made a lot of money from the bailout is not fair. In hindsight, I asked my neighbour how the fuck he could take that kind of risk, his reply was simple, what the fuck else was every government affected by the GFC going to do? If our banking system collapses, civilised society as we know it is finished! we enter complete chaos and anarchy! Of course they were going to bail them out! In retrospect we were dumb as rocks for not seeing it!A snivelling excuse for an unethical politician. The size of the windfall had everything to do with timing, and Dutton's move was 'too cute' to put down to luck. Months, weeks, or days out and the odds change but Dutton did it less than 24 hours before the announcement.
Politicians gaining personal advantages through political decisions white ants the whole structure. It shouldn't be allowed.
So every punt on the stockmarket is a guaranteed return Mindora? If he put money down 2 weeks before, 2 hours before or 2 minutes before, he's guaranteed a good return? Is it not a bet? He could of lost all that money, as could of my neighbour. I didn't do it because I thought, you want me to give money to an institution that operated in a way that caused it to go bankrupt? Just because they were bailed out didn't mean it was going to perform well. It was a risk, and people smarter than you and I took that risk and did very well out of it, I don't have a problem with that, I'm just disappointed I didn't get on board!
GuySmiley wrote:^^ it’s just more FRW tripe from @info, didn’t / doesn’t complain about secret funding from Advance Australia during the voice debate nor during this election nor is he here complaining about a obscure christian cult handing out how to vote cards up/down the east coast and Tassie.
"Yes campaign groups received more than five times as much in donations as no side in voice referendum"
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/apr/02/voice-referendum-...
And still lost.
Peter Reynolds wrote:Mindora wrote:Peter Reynolds wrote:zenagain wrote:"Or just happened to buy bank shares on the eve of the bank bail out announcement.
Insider trading is against the law, little bit more serious than a trip"
I cannot for the life of me understand why this has not gotten more traction? They hounded and pursued that husband of that Sydney PR chick into jail for minor insider trading and Dutton 'coincidentally' bought bank shares on the eve of the government announcing what amounted to a bank bailout netting old Dutts and nice little earn.
The only reason I can see that it's not being pursued is the fact the he more than likely wasn't the only pollie to benefit from that insider info.
The guys a fucking crook and could quite likely be our next PM.
I'm sorry, but I just cannot see how an ex-cop can amass a quarter of a billion dollar fortune by 'shrewd' investing.
My arse.
Would you accept Zen, Dutton wasn't the only person in oz to buy bank shares on the eve of the bank bailout? My neighbour, financial advisor, transferred almost 30% of his self-managed super fund into bank shares before Dutton did, even advised me to do so and I didn't, been rueing that ever since.
Would you accept there are people smarter than you and I with their money? Ray Dalio predicted it and made a motsa.
If, as you say, the reason this was not made a big deal of is because other politicians got on board, say a Labor politician, would you hold their feet to the flames? Throw them in front of a judge?
A cop making a lot of money doesn't sit well with you, he bought a house at the age of 19, what were you doing at that age? I was chasing girls and waves.
As a similar comparison, do you think a life-long pubic servant can buy a clifftop beach pad for 4 mill cash? no mortgage, no questions there?
I accept spud has run a poor campaign and will most likely lose and be replaced as the Lib leader but having a go because he, and a shitload of other smarter australians made a lot of money from the bailout is not fair. In hindsight, I asked my neighbour how the fuck he could take that kind of risk, his reply was simple, what the fuck else was every government affected by the GFC going to do? If our banking system collapses, civilised society as we know it is finished! we enter complete chaos and anarchy! Of course they were going to bail them out! In retrospect we were dumb as rocks for not seeing it!A snivelling excuse for an unethical politician. The size of the windfall had everything to do with timing, and Dutton's move was 'too cute' to put down to luck. Months, weeks, or days out and the odds change but Dutton did it less than 24 hours before the announcement.
Politicians gaining personal advantages through political decisions white ants the whole structure. It shouldn't be allowed.
So every punt on the stockmarket is a guaranteed return Mindora? If he put money down 2 weeks before, 2 hours before or 2 minutes before, he's guaranteed a good return? Is it not a bet? He could of lost all that money, as could of my neighbour. I didn't do it because I thought, you want me to give money to an institution that operated in a way that caused it to go bankrupt? Just because they were bailed out didn't mean it was going to perform well. It was a risk, and people smarter than you and I took that risk and did very well out of it, I don't have a problem with that, I'm just disappointed I didn't get on board!
Not sure you follow. The point was that it wasn't a bet. There was no risk. He was privy to information others weren't about timing and action. You may say he was clever, but I say the timing was too perfect for someone who rarely played the sharemarket and was briefed by Rudd.
You're a mug if you believe otherwise. Australia deserves better from our politicians.
indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:^^ it’s just more FRW tripe from @info, didn’t / doesn’t complain about secret funding from Advance Australia during the voice debate nor during this election nor is he here complaining about a obscure christian cult handing out how to vote cards up/down the east coast and Tassie.
"Yes campaign groups received more than five times as much in donations as no side in voice referendum"
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/apr/02/voice-referendum-...And still lost.
Really, x5 times as much, believe that and you would believe in the Zionist right to commit genocide, Musk is to be admired, Trump has a plan for the carnage he has caused, that Howard was a great economic leader, that George Pell was innocent, that Brittany Higgins had it coming to her ….. but wait you do believe in all that punching down shit, you lowlife piece of garbage
GuySmiley wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:^^ it’s just more FRW tripe from @info, didn’t / doesn’t complain about secret funding from Advance Australia during the voice debate nor during this election nor is he here complaining about a obscure christian cult handing out how to vote cards up/down the east coast and Tassie.
"Yes campaign groups received more than five times as much in donations as no side in voice referendum"
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/apr/02/voice-referendum-...And still lost.
Really, x5 times as much, believe that and you would believe in the Zionist right to commit genocide, Musk is to be admired, Trump has a plan for the carnage he has caused, that Howard was a great economic leader, that George Pell was innocent, that Brittany Higgins had it coming to her ….. but wait you do believe in all that punching down shit, you lowlife piece of garbage
Ha ha so now your beloved Guardian is lying.
Fuck off you Jew hating piece of shit.
BTW. Ive never had real opinion or interest in George Pell or Brittany Higgins, never cared about either or either issue.
indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:^^ it’s just more FRW tripe from @info, didn’t / doesn’t complain about secret funding from Advance Australia during the voice debate nor during this election nor is he here complaining about a obscure christian cult handing out how to vote cards up/down the east coast and Tassie.
"Yes campaign groups received more than five times as much in donations as no side in voice referendum"
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/apr/02/voice-referendum-...And still lost.
Really, x5 times as much, believe that and you would believe in the Zionist right to commit genocide, Musk is to be admired, Trump has a plan for the carnage he has caused, that Howard was a great economic leader, that George Pell was innocent, that Brittany Higgins had it coming to her ….. but wait you do believe in all that punching down shit, you lowlife piece of garbage
Ha ha so now your beloved Guardian is lying.
Fuck off you Jew hating piece of shit.
BTW. Ive never had real opinion or interest in George Pell or Brittany Higgins, never cared about either or either issue.
IDFdreaming strikes again! GET THAT GENOCIDE, HOMEBOY!
It’s got a sort of ring to it , the SNP . This might just be the direction the LP takes after having been humiliated yet again by their #bettereconomicmanagers leadership.
old-dog wrote:I can't turn on the telly or watch a surf clip without being bombarded with Trumpet of Patriots Suellen Wrightson whining about being welcomed to our own country, or making China pay off our debt. or net zero will destroy your family, etc. etc.
Clive must be outspending the majors bigtime.
Is anyone apart from burls gullible enough to buy what they're selling?
This is the most uninspiring beige election in my lifetime.
Dutton shot himself in the foot with his push for nuclear and Albo is just going through the motions half asleep at the wheel.
I'm in a very safe Labor seat so I may as well vote for the marijuana party.
Labor will romp it in. Cheers.
Thats interesting they have someone running in my electorate but i dont recall any signs anywhere or any other type of presence.
Ive seen the odd ad on TV, but no more than any other parties and i havent seen much online presence which is weird as with his last party i saw heaps of his ads everywhere online & TV etc
I guess they can target things where needed in all kinds of ways these days, i guess your area is a target area and mine isn't for his party.
BTW. Just for the record im not a fan of him or his party.
Water off a duck’s back @genocidedribbler
spud is a real ideas man #bettermoneymanagers
With only days to go it’s time to roll out little johnny #liberalsgrandplan .
Did I just read Angus’ budget plan puts us in the hole 17billion worse off (small change I know) in his first two years then it gets better.
Will it get better?
This is how their last announcement is going to win us over?
They haven’t offered us anything and the strong leader Dutton is a failure at his campaign.
Hardly inspiring stuff.
udo wrote:
Imagine seeing that go down at your voting box.
It's got mainstream media coverage https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/video-shows-trumpet-of...
I wonder where this will go, the guy obviously voted so they would have his name and address and plenty of evidence of his identity and actions, surely it now must be investigated by police and they possible lay charges of assault to show that this shit's not on.
indo-dreaming wrote:old-dog wrote:I can't turn on the telly or watch a surf clip without being bombarded with Trumpet of Patriots Suellen Wrightson whining about being welcomed to our own country, or making China pay off our debt. or net zero will destroy your family, etc. etc.
Clive must be outspending the majors bigtime.
Is anyone apart from burls gullible enough to buy what they're selling?
This is the most uninspiring beige election in my lifetime.
Dutton shot himself in the foot with his push for nuclear and Albo is just going through the motions half asleep at the wheel.
I'm in a very safe Labor seat so I may as well vote for the marijuana party.
Labor will romp it in. Cheers.Thats interesting they have someone running in my electorate but i dont recall any signs anywhere or any other type of presence.
Ive seen the odd ad on TV, but no more than any other parties and i havent seen much online presence which is weird as with his last party i saw heaps of his ads everywhere online & TV etc
I guess they can target things where needed in all kinds of ways these days, i guess your area is a target area and mine isn't for his party.
BTW. Just for the record im not a fan of him or his party.
Fuckers have been bombarding my texts @indo. At least 2 texts a day.
Tried everything to block them to no avail.
Nah
You’ve just exposed your algorithm that they’re targeting.
Southern for Big Clive in ‘25!!!
seeds wrote:Nah
You’ve just exposed your algorithm that they’re targeting.
Southern for Big Clive in ‘25!!!
haha the thought did cross my mind @seeds!!
Not bigclive25!! Just to be clear! haha
Funny, you’re mentioning it and it’s in the media but I haven’t got a single political text.
I reckon it’s because it’s as safe as houses here for LNP so they’re not wasting funds
Loved the authorised by at the end
seeds wrote:Funny, you’re mentioning it and it’s in the media but I haven’t got a single political text.
I reckon it’s because it’s as safe as houses here for LNP so they’re not wasting funds
The bigfellas onto me. He's seen an ally ever since covid!! hehe.
Ha that’s funny
And laughing at yourself
Take note Sexxy
A pig telling porkies . This grub has got very rich from other people’s sweat .
Put them second last..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-28/true-colours/105226608
Guess the days of a quiet sausage sizzle and a friendly cup cake are gone..
Sad really.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/02/nsw-reports-of-al...
Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.
This is how Dutton wins:
https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...