Slow improvement in conditions with plenty of swell

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Victorian Surf Forecast by Craig Brokensha (issued Wednesday 29th September)

Best Days: Friday morning, Saturday morning on the Surf Coast, Sunday morning

Features of the Forecast (tl;dr)

  • Moderate sized, mid-period S/SW swell tomorrow with gusty E/SE winds pre-dawn, easing and tending light E/SE (then E/NE mid-late AM east of Melbourne) and back to the SE for the PM
  • Moderate SE windswell for tomorrow AM, easing through the day
  • New, moderate sized, mid-period S/SW swell for Fri PM with variable tending S-S/SW winds
  • Easing S/SW swell Sat with W/SW tending S/SW winds (W/NW early on the Surf Coast)
  • Easing S/SW swell Sun with varaible tending E/SE winds
  • Small-mod W windswell building Mon PM with strengthening NW tending W/SW winds

Recap

After a great afternoon of surf across the beaches Monday, Tuesday continued the trend with a touch less size but great conditions. A new, mid-period swell kicked in through the day offering a touch more size then expected, to 4ft+ on the Mornington Peninsula and to 3ft on the Surf Coast. The models seemed to nail this one against my expectations regarding size.

Conditions were great until mid-afternoon, when freshening sea breezes kicked in. Today we've similar amounts of size and winds were more onshore but workable early. Conditions have since deteriorated though owing to strengthening winds from the SE.

Great surf yesterday ahead of the sea breeze

This week and weekend (Sep 30 – Oct 3)

Firstly, winds for tomorrow, are they or aren't they going to be favourable? Well we're going to fall somewhere in between.

A broad mid-latitude low and inland surface trough running down the East Coast will squeeze a strong high to our south, bringing strong SE winds into this evening.

As the low moves slowly south-east, winds should more E/SE early tomorrow morning and only abate once the sun starts to rise. With this there'll be lots of lump/bump/chop across all locations for the dawny.

Hi-res modelling has winds easing and tending lighter E/SE across most locations, with the Mornington Peninsula and Phillip Island likely seeing winds even tending E/NE mid-late morning. This will create improving conditions which will be best just before afternoon SE sea breezes kick in.

Swell wise, we've got our new, medium sized S/SW swell due to fill in, generated by a great but not overly strong polar frontal progression under the country the past couple of days (right).

The swell should come in at a good 3-4ft on the Surf Coast tomorrow with 5-6ft sets to the east, while there'll also be some sizey SE windswell in the mix likely to 4ft on the sets across the Surf Coast, easing through the day.

Come Friday morning, a touch less size is due across all locations ahead of a secondary pulse of mid-period S/SW swell into the afternoon The source of this swell will be polar, strong to gale-force W/NW-W winds to the south-southwest of Western Australia yesterday evening and today (shown right). It should kick back to 3-4ft on the Surf Coast and 5-6ft through the mid-late afternoon, then easing from 3ft+ and 4-5ft+ respectively Saturday morning.

Winds look more variable on Friday morning, creating workable conditions across most locations, and indeed better than tomorrow morning, with winds shifting S-S/SW into the afternoon.

On Saturday we'll be on the backside of the south-east tracking low, resulting in moderate W/SW winds blowing through Bass Strait. The Surf Coast should see W/NW winds through the morning with S/SW breezes into the afternoon.

The easing trend in S/SW energy will be slowed slightly by a final frontal system firing up late in our swell window, south-west of Tasmania tomorrow, with Sunday providing easing 2ft+ waves on the Surf Coast, 3ft to possibly 4ft to the east.

Conditions will become favourable for all locations as the low clears further to the east, bringing variable tending locally offshore winds ahead of E/SE sea breezes.

Longer term, as touched on in the last couple of updates there's nothing major on the cards with a low point in swell due Monday morning ahead of some weak mid-latitude frontal systems. These may bring some weak W'ly swell into Monday afternoon/Tuesday but otherwise it looks a bit hit and miss as winds blow from the west, creating average conditions on the beaches which will be getting the most size.

Therefore make the most of windows of lighter winds and swell over the coming period.

Comments

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memlasurf Wednesday, 29 Sep 2021 at 5:43pm

Yes Craig is was pumping the last two days. So much fun, brilliant weather and you know everybody in the line up.

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Craig Wednesday, 29 Sep 2021 at 7:09pm

Haha, how good! Stoked to hear. Hopefully get down there for a surf over the coming six months.

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thermalben Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 5:59am

Overnight observations (to 5am) in the Otways:

Mt Cowley: 105mm
Benwerrin: 94mm
Mt Sabine: 83mm

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willibutler Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 8:17am

One of those nights your glad you have a roof over your head and can just relax to the noise of the elements outside

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Nick Bone Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 9:36am

Wowzers. Yesterday was dry, if not sunny on this side. That one person on-site (if we could work) who calls massive rain, - 20mm, 100% blah blah blah, glued to the radar would of had a pretty uneventful day.

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thermalben Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 9:44am

Orographic uplift in full effect.

Mount Gellibrand, on the other side of the ranges, picked up 0.4mm.

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Walk around G Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 9:51am

Does that basically mean moisture from the ocean, low pressure system and onshore wind gets forced skywards by the Otway's, which inturn condenses the air and moisture whilst it cools at higher elevation, then eventuates as rain?

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Craig Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 9:56am

Close.

Moist, onshore winds, being forced upwards, cooling and condensing into rain, drying out on the other side as the air descends and warms.

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Walk around G Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 10:10am

The best example of that weather phenomenon I've ever experienced was when a spent many months in Salt Lake City. During winter, low pressure systems would drift across the vast lake picking up additional moisture before slamming into the Wasatch mountain range. The result was some of the deepest dry powder snow I've ever skied. Almost like a natural snow machine effect with perfect advanced to expert ski terrain in little Cottonwood Canyon to make the most of the abundant snow. One of my favourite places on earth forsure:)

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Craig Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 10:13am

Ah yes that's called 'Lake Effect' snow and is a little different as you need at least 13deg temperature difference from the cold air at (850hPa) to the warmer water surface for it to pick up that extra moisture.

You're right though, they are some of the best snow bearers as they just give constant steady dumps. This is where Japan's and especially Hokkaido's snow comes from.

Cold Siberian air flowing across the relatively warm Sea of Japan and then onto the mountains.

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Finnbob the terror Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 6:08am

Almost looks like we might get some novelty A-frame action on the MP today if the wind behaves.

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Nick Bone Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 9:33am

Maybe a few short and sharps at Boneyards

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Craig Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 9:57am

Heads up, looks like winds this evening are due to go variable across all locations, might be on dark but keep an eye on things.

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Dx3 Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 10:00am

Looking at the surf this morning, wondering how ordinary it needs to be to get a 1/10 rating….today’s Torquay rating is a 2.

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Craig Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 10:04am

Here are the ratings.. so technically not a 1 ;p

1. Unsurfable - flat and/or unrideable conditions
2. Very poor - low quality surf with poor conditions
3. Below average surf - some surfable waves but generally low quality
4. Average surf - a mix of surfable waves with variable quality
5. Above average surf - reasonable percentage of surfable waves, but with variable conditions at times
6. Good surf - plenty of surfable waves with reasonable conditions
7. Very good surf - plenty of surfable waves with good conditions
8. Great surf - high percentage of quality waves with great conditions
9. Excellent surf - high percentage of quality waves with excellent conditions
10. Epic surf - as good as it gets

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anthony.olsen Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 10:11am

Thanks Craig.

Whats the relationship to the size of the swell?
My random observation is that to get a 7 or maybe 8+ it needs to be over 5 foot?

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Craig Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 10:18am

There's no real correlation, though a clean 3ft day isn't going to get an 8 generally. It's up to the reporter's discretion.

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Weatherman Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 10:39pm

Very interesting Craig. I didn't realize there was an actual guide to the ratings. I would prefer to see the rating not be influenced by the size. I have no problems with a 2-3 ft day given an 8 or 9 if it is very good quality. The size is the size and the rating is the quality. I get that people will have different opinion on this. Just out of interest, what would people rate the right hand sand point in the latest Lost Track Atlantic episode? A 4 or 5 because it is only 3ft or 8 or 9 because of the amazing quality?

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thermalben Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 11:27am

It's also relative to the region too.

Clean 3ft surf on SA's Mid Coast is a 9/10.

Clean 3ft surf on the Gold Coast points can be 6/10.

Clean 3ft surf in Torquay is usually a 5/10.

Clean 3ft surf in Margaret River may be either side of 3/10.

Clean 3ft surf for a WSL event at Teahupoo is a 1/10.

Etc.

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thermalben Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 11:32am

And of course, every local surfer is gonna have their own opinions to the broad brushstrokes above.

Some Adelaide charger who's just returned from a month on the west coast ain't gonna rate 3ft Seaford anywhere near a 9/10.

Clean 3ft surf on the Gold Coast points can be a 8/10 if the sand's in fine form, and we've just come off six weeks of northerly windswell. But, mid-autumn, after months of trade swells? Maybe 4/10.

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Dx3 Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 10:58am

Nice one, thanks Craigos

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 3:27pm

Rain settled in now and soaking the ground. That's why the ants were so frantic yesterday, moving their eggs. They must subscribe to Swellnet.

Monday surf was bliss btw

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willibutler Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 11:48pm

Hahaha the ants were going crazy I still would love to know how they sense the rain

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Nick Bone Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 6:13pm

Whadya reckon Craigoss. Wind is up but in this situation I think it’s pretty volatile!?

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Craig Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 8:09pm

Offies tomorrow.

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Craig Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 8:09pm

Should be swinging very soon..

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Craig Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 8:11pm

Low's centre is around Frankston but due to drift south-west. S/SE winds on the south-west flank and N/NE-NE on the north-eastern.

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geek Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 8:24pm

*nod*

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Craig Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 8:29pm

Haha, here ya go. Also looks like those winds are dropping by the minute.

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Craig Friday, 1 Oct 2021 at 5:40am

And here is where the low is this morning..

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Turkey Friday, 1 Oct 2021 at 7:20am

Craigos, these big rains and Easterlies. Are we finally making that second dip back toward the dreaded La Nina?

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The poo man Friday, 1 Oct 2021 at 7:33am

This weather system has nothing to do with la nina. This is normal spring weather pattern. It's fucking great seeing the weather do the normal for a change

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Craig Friday, 1 Oct 2021 at 7:34am

Ha, yeah a good spring soaking helped along by the negative Indian Ocean Dipole. All good to ask questions but.

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Turkey Friday, 1 Oct 2021 at 8:20am

Thanks Poo Man / Craigos. Good base knowledge for my budding meteorological career!