Couple 'o windows this week

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South East Queensland and Northern New South Wales Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Monday 13th October)

Best DaysTuesday: good, clean NE swell in the Lower Mid North (smaller on the North Coast and in SE Qld, with less favourable winds). Wednesday: building S'ly swell peaking late with generally good winds (best on the North Coast). Still very small in SE Qld away from the swell magnets. Thursday: good condtions early with an early peak in S'ly swell (again, very small in SE Qld away from the swell magnets). Friday: small clean residual swell at exposed beaches in Northern NSW.

Recap: Small surf over the weekend with persistent northerly winds. Building NE windswell today but mainly in the south (i.e. Lower Mid North Coast) due to the position and length of the associated fetch. Very little increase as yet north of about Yamba.

This week (Oct 14-17 onwards)

The surf outlook is very dynamic for the next few days. An East Coast Low is modelled to form in the far south-western Tasman Sea overnight, and will intensify through Tuesday, driving gale to storm force S/SE winds into much of the southern NSW coast. 

Somewhat unrelated to the ECL, a southerly change is moving northwards along the NSW right now and is due to reach the Lower Mid North Coast in the early hours of Tuesday morning, but probably won't progress much further north than there. This change won't penetrate very far out into the Tasman Sea and consequently won't generate much, if any new swell for the region. 

However it'll disrupt the existing coastal northerly airstream, creating moderate W'ly winds across the Lower Mid North Coast for most of Tuesday.  Winds will tend more NW across the North Coast but may remain more N'ly in direction from about Byron Bay up into the SE Qld region.

The upshot of this is that we're looking at a fun day of NE windswell in the Lower Mid North, with good winds and peaky 3-4ft surf at exposed NE swell magnets. Wave heights will become smaller with increasing northerly latitude, probably 2ft to maybe 3ft through to the border and probably a little smaller than that (1.5-2ft) at exposed beaches in SE Qld. However the N'ly airstream will probably make life very difficult at those beaches north of the border actually picking up the swell.

A gusty W'ly change is due across all regions late Tuesday afternoon - and once it arrives we'll see a rapid improvement on the surface - but I wouldn't hold your breath for it to push through before 5pm.

So, on to Wednesday. By this time the ECL will have delivered gale to storm force S/SE winds across southern NSW (and a very large short range swell) however this weather system is expected to concentrate most of its energy into the one area. And being positioned so close to the coast, we'll see a much smaller percentage of size push northwards.

This will begin with a straight southerly swell building throughout Wednesday that should reach 6ft+ at most south facing beaches south of Byron Bay, with possibly larger waves in the Lower Mid North Coast (due to its closer proximity to the core fetch). However much smaller surf is expected at beaches not open to the south. A peak in size is expected through the afternoon and winds will generally remain moderate W/SW north of Coffs Harbour, with strong to gale force SW winds expected south from Coffs to Seal Rocks (that'll probably make things tricky).

In SE Qld, we'll mainly see a tiny fraction of residual NE swell and building S'ly swell during Wednesday, due to the poor alignment of the low and fetch. An afternoon peak is also expected north of the border but most beaches will be lucky to see 1-2ft (however, the region's handful of south swell magnets should pick up occasional 3-4ft sets late in the day and winds should be generally good for these locations).

Wednesday's late peak should then hold into early Thursday morning before easing during the day. Conditions are looking really good for the early session with early light off shores ahead of an afternoon sea breeze. Size will ease from lunchtime onwards, if not earlier.

Smaller, steadily easing surf and similarly light/variable wind patterns are expected for Friday. By this time the south swell will be very small across SE Qld but we'll also start to see a small, inconsistent E'ly swell arrive throughout the day that should maintain occasional 1-2ft sets at exposed beaches. 

This weekend (Oct 18-19)

Nothing major on the cards for the weekend at this stage. A weak southerly change is due into the Northern NSW coast on Saturday morning (without any major strength, and probably little swell too) and a ridge may develop across the Qld coast, both of which will dictate local winds.  

In addition to general small residual swells, we'll also see a small E'ly swell perk up throughout the weekend, generated by a slowly developing E'ly fetch north of New Zealand during the second half of this week - however no great size is expected from it (maybe some inconsistent 2ft+ sets at exposed beaches, but very slow). 

So in general, it's just another weekend with small average waves about the region.

Long term (Oct 20 onwards)

No major patterns on the long term charts at this stage. We've got some trade activity that may contribute varying degrees of small+ east swell through next week but nothing to get excited about; generally quite standard for this time of year. Let's see how the numbers are stacking up on Wednesday.

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Sheepdog Tuesday, 14 Oct 2014 at 5:45pm

This time of year north of byron, you gotta thank huey for anything over 2 foot......

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donweather Tuesday, 14 Oct 2014 at 6:10pm

Well then everyone should be out there north of Byron this arvo as there’s some fun little clean peaky beachies around this arvo!!!

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davetherave Tuesday, 14 Oct 2014 at 11:04pm

guys this year seems that not much has crept in north of byron and even sunny coast looked better than here-including d-bah- have not surfed tweed coast but friends say same.
same with these ecls, they seem to be lining up newy, sydney and gong, continually, i know this has a trend but have any of you seen anything out of ordinary in these events, like sydney copping it again tonight- storms usual yes, but these are bigger events- any theories or are they just getting more exposure?

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thermalben Wednesday, 15 Oct 2014 at 3:48pm

I don't think there's any reasoning behind it. Just one of those things.

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davetherave Wednesday, 15 Oct 2014 at 4:02pm

Don't think so Ben, did u watch show on Hurricane Sandy and how the elements all combined, never previously recorded, for that storm to turn and hit new jersey. Myself and the Global Coherence Initiative and Institute of Noetic Science have been discussing/debating and even experimenting with this and there does seem to be a trend, these storms and other earth related incidents seem to be impacting the bigger population areas more. I have witnessed it here when a storm cell has actually done an amazing change of direction and hit northern gold coast/logan/brisbane and especially Glass house mountain area. I also spoke to someone who witnessed the Lennox Head Waterspout and as silly as it sounds, they said it looked like it was looking for something.
The damage trail was bizarre, just like bushfires take some houses but not others. I think there is a DEFINITE MEANING behind these things, the reasoning i have my theories, but they shall be compiled and then put in bookform.

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thermalben Wednesday, 15 Oct 2014 at 4:15pm

You gotta remember that we now have a lot more data collecting tools than we did before.

Everyone's got an HD video recorder in their pocket, with the ability to upload video to the internet within minutes of something happening, which can then be broadcast to a large audience via social media in a very short space of time. So there's sometimes a false perception about the 'increase' in various weather phenomena (tornadoes being the main culprit), when in fact they all previously occured before but were never recorded.

And of course we have a lot more scientific instrumentation in the field collecting data too. All of which is helping us understand weather patterns in more detail.

Of course storm cells have the ability to change direction and do all kinds of weird things. But I personally don't think that there's been a "trend" in recent years towards a particular trait of storm activity (ie "storms and other earth related incidents impacting the bigger population areas more").

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Sheepdog Wednesday, 15 Oct 2014 at 4:22pm

Just cycles, davo...... And fodder for 24/7.com news...... Just as many storms and "events" when you and I were trailblazing around NQ... I remember one sesh north of ratshit with an impending cyclone... We nearly got blown out to sea... Massive water spouts out the back Remember that? The Rayboulds were waving frantically on the beach....... Hardly made the news back then..... But there was only the 6.00pm news, not wall to wall space to fill......
Interesting ride home in the P/van, dodging trees getting blown across the road....

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thermalben Wednesday, 15 Oct 2014 at 3:46pm

Hmmm. Crowdy Head buoy is picking up the new south swell nicely but Coffs doesn't have much size (although it has shown a decent increase in period, and our surfcam is showing 3-4ft sets at south facing beaches). Still quite a lot under what was expected though. 'Tis really big in southern NSW too! Gotta be 10ft to maybe 12ft in Newcastle.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 15 Oct 2014 at 3:50pm

Standard issue when these lows are close to the coast and in the lee of the Hunter Curve.
Nothing here as yet and judging by the speed at which the fetch re-orients and races away I wouldn't expect too much

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freeride76 Wednesday, 15 Oct 2014 at 4:06pm

The Lennox tornado meandered like all tornados Dave.
People with a theory tend to look for evidence that supports that theory. Research confirmation bias.

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mitchvg Wednesday, 15 Oct 2014 at 6:07pm

Whatever the winds end up doing, it'll get pretty cool tonight hey? Clear skies up here.

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davetherave Thursday, 16 Oct 2014 at 2:24am

yeah all good points and accepted - u right freeride studies show a belief has the ability to pull out info to support it that may not be factual/correct. Remember those rain squalls sheepy, we had to jump off board and hide under water and it sounded like rocks being thrown at boards. BUT, I will reserve my assessment until May 2015. I take a keen interest in observing flora and fauna, and me seen some very unusual things taking place. Jellyfish in river started, but three new species i have never seen here before.