Watch: First waves ridden at the Tulla tub

Stu Nettle
Swellnet Dispatch

We saw the unadorned vision a few weeks back, but without riders it was hard to put a size on the waves. Now, the owners of URBNSURF have invited a small crew to ride the wave(s) and we've got a better idea of scale.

Size doesn't appear an issue with head high plus waves off the corner, and, at least on the 'Slab' setting, a wicked little double up section to follow. Reports out of Tulla is that they broke four boards on the first day using this setting.

There are 18 settings on the "wave menu". From the website:

"We’re still in testing mode...and the crowd favourites for intermediate to advanced surfers are our new pointbreak and Trestles-style turns waves (Giros III to IV) and our bigger, longer barrel settings (Tubos II to V). We’ve also developed three further Malibu waves, and two Waikiki-style peaks, that are loved by kids and adults who are just starting their surfing journey. We’re stoked that we’ll be able to cater to surfers of all ages and abilities, and we can’t wait to get everyone in the water and having a blast this Summer."

"We’re also experimenting with two expert waves, a slab (dubbed The Beast) and an air wave (The Ramp’s a working title). It’s still early days, but we’re stoked with how they’re developing, and we’ve enlisted some of Australia’s best surfers to help us refine them."

Click here to read the full story on the URBNSURF website.

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Robo commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 8:45am

Been showing live on today show weather crosses this morning, doesn't look like these photos, 4 turns 2 ft mid north coast beach break waves. No barrels.
Some good young surfers on show.

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johnson commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:00am

One of the articles I read had a breakdown of how many waves per set/hour on different settings; I'm guessing that to co-ordinate the timing with a live cross they chose whatever setting had the most waves over the longest duration.

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peabo commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:03am

Like the article says, 18 different wave settings. You saw one of the others.

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innatube commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 8:55am

Smaller than I was expecting. You can see the water pushing back into the wave to make it stand up a bit more.

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peabo commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:03am

Looks like it will be fun on the boog!

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Lottolonglong commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:08am

Agreed,I'm curious if there will be that as many as we're told is capable of producing with that slab setting,!!!

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philosurphizing... commented Tuesday, 10 Dec 2019 at 7:12pm

I heard only 3 waves per set on the slab setting.

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stunet commented Tuesday, 10 Dec 2019 at 7:21pm

Don't know if we had the top setting, they told us it was one of the Beast modes, but there were eight waves per set. The sets were around three minutes apart.

They can get more waves per set on other settings.

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sean.sullivan commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:06am

Wonder how they manipulate the wave to make it little slabby / barrel wave to a fat mal wave or beginner wave ? manipulate the bottom contours ?
Looks super fun though , looks like a nice little punchy beachy , steamers arrggh need to be in boardies .
I think i like it better then Slaters .

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shoredump commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:16am

KSWaveCo just went broke

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Trentslatterphoto commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 6:51pm

just sold the sport out for reality tv mate slater is a blessing and a curse

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Bungan33 commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:28am

Yea - pretty interesting how they produce the slab. Definitely looks like water pushing back against the break. I love the science of the wave energy angles. Very cool engineering - good on them.
Hows the take off zone vibe though! A whole bunch of frothing "gotta-get-my-moneys-worth" paying punters sitting like penned sheep in a swimming pool staring at concrete walls, waiting for a machine to growl out a human created lump of energy....while Boeings fly over head. Weird to think that on many a day there will be punters sitting there, while 60 min down the road others will be sitting staring out into the ocean, NW wind at their backs, waiting for razor edges lines to roll in with the smell of salt and eucalyptus engulfing them.....mmm...I'll stick with surfing 1.0

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greyhound commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:13pm

Loved that last paragraph Bunga. I’m totally of the same opinion. And I for one will never set foot in this place.

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nickdid commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 11:12am

Couldn't have said it better Bungan! Plus the latter doesn't cost $3500 per year! Still free to use the ocean.

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shoredump commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 11:21am

I’m going to do both

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Blowin commented Saturday, 16 Nov 2019 at 7:11pm

Nicely put.

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Garryh commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 10:15am

$3,100 for gold membership (incl 48 sessions)...works out to about $65 per sesh (plus a few other benefits). Hmmm will it be worth it? $3,500 for "foundation membership" with surf it first and a few other benefits included. These are 12 month contracts that automatically renew unless you give notice during a set period (a bit like a gym membership I suppose). Whadayreckon? worth a punt? reject immediately. wait until it's open to try it first. get in quick? bargain of the century? (personally I think it's not bad if the wave is any where near what we've seen on the 'net

Single Sessions $79!.

WinterSwells

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frog commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:51am

Looks fun. 18 different types of wave! The look and feel is like a real surf spot - sort of like next to a Jetty or breakwall.

wozzle and KS are freaking - their business model of a wave every three minute queueing pool .... oopps ...wave pool led profit centre just went further south.

Frogg

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regydogy commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:53am

so how much does it cost the normal jo to surf it ? or is it only for the pros and the rich .

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Doralives commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 9:54am

At this stage $79 for an hour (see down the bottom of the link) https://urbnsurf.com/memberships/foundation/

Dora Lives!

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ron commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 10:05am

They dont really show the take off. Makes me wonder how it all works with everyone in the session waiting in that corner.

Anyone know how it will work with all these settings? Do you book for a certain type of wave or is it up to the people in the time slot? Kind of makes it hard to mix abillities.

Just noticed the 4 surfs a month membership says subject to availability and use them or lose them. Meaning when this thing is booked out a year in advance you are fucked unless you pick all your session times in advance for the next 12 months.

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Dowdy commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 10:21am

Yeh I'm keen to see how it'll work with a fully booked session of surfers crowded into that little corner. There's a video on Stab website that shows the take-off area quite clearly, whack 15+ paying customers all trying to get their money's worth in an hour into that corner, differing abilities, and it could get a little testy in the line-up...I'm sure you'll get some that don't share it around as much as they should.
Good question on the wave settings. My guess would be you book for a certain type of wave for the hour but who knows.

Still pumped for it to open though and give it a crack!

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Moses commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 11:21am

I think you’ll find everyone is pretty calm out there, not like the ocean when you don’t know when the next sets coming. (Not to mention people snaking the queue will be pretty obvious and called out). Don’t know where I read it but apparently this thing just keeps throwing waves at you, did I see 6-8 wave sets every couple minutes? Got to be enough to keep most crowds happy
And $80 an hour, I think that’s almost reasonable, provided your getting your fill

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Dowdy commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 11:43am

Yeh that'll be key, the next wave is only a few seconds away by the looks of it, so wait your turn and everyone is happy. I'd read somewhere from Urbnsurf that with numbers per session you're looking at approx 10-12 waves per session per surfer, that's unreal if true.
This thing looks pretty epic, massive effort from the crew.

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willibutler commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 12:10pm

you'd be happy with only 10-12 waves in the hour?? wow! and also I've heard you get like a watch type thing which you program what kind of wave you want produced and then the pool senses your there and produces the wave you selected

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Moses commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 12:54pm

Not many of the average punters will be able to deal with more than a wave every 5 minutes. So no I don’t see a problem with 12 waves an hour. I reckon we are a fair way from the dial a wave on the fly concept, it’ll be more like 20 minutes one type, 20 another etc I’d imagine.

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Dowdy commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 1:51pm

Yep, looking at the quality of this wave I'd happily take 10-12 of them an hour. You might, but I ain't getting 10-12 consistently quality waves down the coast with the chance of a little barrel on every one of them.

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bukz commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 4:04pm

People line up next to the pier, if you miss your turn go back to the end of the line, should be straightforward.

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andoman commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 3:30pm

It it's like the Bristol one, you get two shots at the takeoff .. if you blow it it's back to the end of the queue.

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beachparty commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 7:37pm

at the bottom of this page https://wavepoolmag.com/heckling-at-the-wave/
there's a video of "The Wave" Bristol wave pool and in it they show the take off zone and explain the rules on how it works.
I'm guessing that it would be much the same thing????

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offshoreozzie commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 11:05am

Impressive effort. Haters never going be happy but they've achieved something pretty incredible. Kudos to them

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memlasurf commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 11:25am

I wonder how many it takes to book the right hander out? Get enough mates and you have the pool, although the drop ins could be worse.

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Patrick0710 commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 11:38am

The final info they haven't dropped is how many in the water at one time, which then helps you work out how many waves you'd get in an hour: 4-8 waves works out at minimum $10 per wave, max $20 per wave.

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bukz commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 4:06pm

Reports from uk says a good surfer will get around 14 waves per session and get tired by the end.

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peabo commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 12:28pm

Any more than 20 people on each side of the pool at a time would seem like too many. Hopefully the number makes sense.

Surprised that they're leaving it to the surfers themselves to determine wave priority. Hopefully everyone is calm and respectful, but experience would suggest there are plenty of shit people out there. Thought maybe the life guards they're hiring would also help to coordinate that side of things a little

Wonder if there will be add-ons for your session? Like sticking a photographer in the water and offering people a portfolio of images for their Instagram for an extra $40?

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northeasterly commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 3:48pm

The Bristol pool that just opened that smaller than this pool shows someone in a red rash vest sitting on a board in the lineup making sure everyone takes their turn, like the person at the top of a waterslide. There seems to be about 6 or so people waiting for waves with few others on waves or paddling. It seems really manageable.

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johnson commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 8:01pm

Yep I thought I saw that happening in the Bristol vid. They might've even had a lap-pool rope setup to queue up behind from what I could see. With a lifeguard/operator there, it's no different to a waterslide or a cable ski lake.

I really doubt that they're going to let snaking or hassling fly in the pool - or else people will start demanding their money back.

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 9:23pm

Bristol said max 40 per side
Advanced 15
Intermediate 10
Beginners 16

URBNSURF said 44 per side?

Pov vid targets or potential collisions-(Blind or stranded)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y98emK6uYLo
8 individual blind targets (on left session)
4 blocks of 6 +2+ 2+2 (on right session)
Basically 12 (half) waves wasted per 18 lives saved (refund or Medal?)

All say 1 wave every 6mins & get worn out in 1/hr

Q&A @ [3:25] Plenty of answers by paying customers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIuwL4C1Au0

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Garryh commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 1:56pm

Hmmm...thanks for the link. they looked like 2 foot beach break waves. Fascinating to think about how successful this business might or might not be. Only time will tell.

WinterSwells

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bluediamond commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 12:45pm

That slabby section looks sick. More like a north coast breakwall wedge than Slat's running tube that doesn't really draw water up the face. Both would be fun though and i reckon i'd nosedive on both of them! Might be safer for my self esteem to stay in the salt.

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savanova commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 1:21pm

Imagine what a super rich oil tycoon could build with this tech and no budget

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Geereg commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 1:29pm

Been a long time since I got 10 waves that fun in one hour...

Gg

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velocityjohnno commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 2:01pm

Looks seriously fun! Wonder how the waves felt? A lot of variety
So $79 an hour and 12 waves - is that 12 an individual surfer gets? Pretty good value.

I noticed in the vid everyone went forehand apart from two crew. Do you get a discount if you man up and surf it backhand?

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tiger commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 2:27pm

Looks like the funnest little ripbowl bank ever! With the regularity of the waves being churned out I imagine it could easily handle a dozen punters each side. The takeoff looks right up in the corner, so just line up and tag back onto the end of the line as you paddle back out. In an hour long sesh with that many waves I'm sure crew would be taking a breather and sitting out a rotation. These guys really have got their shit together, the surf lakes mob would be having conniptions right about now.

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bukz commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 4:19pm

I'm not sure if the plunger can pump wave after wave with quality but even if it does, they have a huge single point of failure that if it breaks its all fukt for who knows how long. With wavegarden if a few independent modules break it will still be pumping with barely noticeable changes and technicians can repair it while full operational.

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freeride76 commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 2:29pm

how do you choose which of the 18 waves you will ride over the hour>?

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millsy351 commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 3:16pm

You don’t choose, the wavegarden guys do, but you can be sure they’ll Listen to requests and pair ability with wave selection.

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SurferSam commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 3:12pm

Much more footage here and not so heavily edited
https://stabmag.com/stabcinema/watch-is-urbn-surf-melbourne-the-best-wav...
Looks to have trumped all other technologies by a long shot I reckon

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pigdog commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 7:10pm

thats the first time i have seen the whole park....makes the surf zone look small and a short ride.

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Vic Local commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 3:40pm

Sorry, but anyone not impressed with that wave quality would boo Santa Claus.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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bukz commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 4:13pm

Remember this is the first batch ever of commercial wave pools.

Imagine in a few years what will be built in a place with cheap labour and cheap subsided electricity with a fined tuned version of this tech.

I can see a long sucking barrel section 1 or 2ft bigger than this wave reeling for like 10 seconds followed by all sorts of smackable sections and ramps with solid size. What a time to be alive.

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peabo commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 4:26pm

Not sure we'll see increases in size too quaickly given all the science being thrown around about how much extra energy is required to produce even just slightly larger waves. But also wouldn't put it past them down the track either.

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 3:11am

bukz ..Both Waco & now Bristol too, will soon run ramps.
Waco lowers water & wave height to suit comp billboards.
This creates a bigger Acid Drop (Win! Win!)

You should be able to record / play a wave tune.
Performance art by assigning notes to wave jets.
Orchestrate & surf your own Heavy Tune.

Easy to program in sync water lights
Surf your own Soundwave lightshow expression session
That should be possible now.
World Wavegardens 'Wipeout' SoundWave surf off.
[vote] Which team surfed Wipeout (wavetune) the best..

Similar to 2005 Zadar Sea Organ but programmable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H185J3qnHCc

Yes! 1970's were a blur > flying again...Way too fast for tbb!

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Ape Anonymous commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 4:47pm

It's really small.... Is there a smoking area out the back?

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Ape Anonymous commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 5:01pm

All these radical people so close to the airport, the Feds hotline will be going off!!!

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Walk around G commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 5:15pm

I want a go now, Daddy!

We need one in every bloody town. No need to swim laps in a pool or expensive gym memberships to keep our ageing bodies fit with this technology. Gone will be the days, where we'll need to partake in that boring form of excercise, all in an attempt to have some sort of surf- fitness next time we're trying to make the most of our sacred and unfortunately all too rarely epic ocean sessions.

This is a TOTAL game changer for surfing and surfings future.......WOW!

Sign me up.

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goofyfoot commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 5:25pm

“This is a TOTAL game changer for surfing and surfings future.......WOW!“

In what way WAG?

I don’t see it that way

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Walk around G commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 6:37pm

Well GF,
I see it kinda like this.....

Usually the best surfers in the water at any natural surfbreak in the world are, either local surfers or people that have spent an envieable amount of time pursuing our passion in an ocean or sizable sea. They usually display physical fitness, waver-riding skills and technique. They demonstrate an advanced understanding of how the ocean, sea/water move, they appear at times, to almost have a sixth sense of how to predict what will happen and act accordingly.

Some time ago now, I too, moved away from a capital city in an attempt to 'better' my odds in the water, figuring that I could try to resolve my surfing skill shortcomings by immersing myself into the ocean and in turn, hopefully I would become a better surfer.

It took a lot of sacrifices, financially, friendship groups and also up-rooting a young family but dedicating my time and effort, I did finally receive the reward of better surfing (even though I probably left it far too late too any good;) )

Now I feel much more at home in the water than I did, even as the most commited weekend warrior and the whole overall enjoyment has far increased.

Now, in the very near future, you'll be able to live in a city, make BIG $$$ in a corporate job but still keep your surfing dreams alive. Their fitness, skill progression and water reading/sense skills will continue to develop whilst being land locked in the big smoke.

This WILL change surfing and surfings future.

Availability increased.
Repetition increased.
Fitness increased.

There'll be a whole new demographic of future 'surfers', sure they won't be able to tackle ocean condtions at solid Cloudbreak, Pipe or a manic reef passes but I beleive they'll change the line-up at our more accessible surf locations around the planet.

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goofyfoot commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 7:44pm

Nice answer mate.

I just think that the Melbourne people who learn to surf in the pool and earn the big corporate bux will never be able to transfer those skills to the ocean.

Just think..
No paddling fitness, in the pool you sit there and wait fr a wave to break in exactly the same spot.
No ocean awareness, cant read a lineup, cant see rips etc, cant tell swell direction
and it goes on and on...

Don't get me wrong. i cant wait to have a go. I just think pool kooks will always remain pool kooks

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simba commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 7:58pm

Im seeing it a bit like WAGs seeing it,you can get cardio in other ways but you cant replicate the little muscle movements and feelings in legs and toes etc.......plus theres a bit of paddling involved.....apparentley the wave has a bit of power to it as well.....which helps...better than nothing .

simba

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thermalben commented Saturday, 16 Nov 2019 at 7:41am

To play devil's advocate, isn't this the case with most things in life these days?

Slightly tangential, but speaking from personal experience - there was a time when it took years of dedication and sacrifice to produce good music. You needed the ability to write songs, but more importantly, you needed the skills (and plenty of money) to create a recording of any quality. With some luck, you'd be able to make a career selling records and playing shows. And your chances were exponentially higher if you lived in Melbourne or Sydney (or better still, somewhere OS). I know dozens of Adelaide bands that relocated in the hope of getting somewhere.

These days, technological advances have meant anyone can produce high quality music with their iPhone. Don't need talent either.. there are fixes for everything (and a thousand online courses to teach you the short cuts, that took us years to work out). There's also no need to relocate to be successful either - and so the music landscape is now saturated with millions of artists. But, because no-one pays for music any more, there's no way to generate any meaningful income.

Of course, the ability to play live music well still requires raw talent - so most bedroom artists will never develop the skills to produce a good stage show. But, as it is a number of factors have changed the way people choose to watch bands anyway (inner city gentrification, abundance of all-you-can-eat music festivals), and so the small sweaty pub circuit is becoming but a distant memory. 

These tech changes have been great for some people - those who couldn't conveniently and cheaply create music - but it's been detrimental to others.

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Walk around G commented Saturday, 16 Nov 2019 at 6:30pm

Nice analogy Ben. Yeh I agree, our first world technology is currently advancing at such an expodential rate that the future will be an unusual place for us old school frother's. It's all good though, we'll still hold our own and I'm sure that every previous generation has already felt the same or similar anxiety moving forward. Atleast we'll probably have Mentawai type surf perfection, on tap in a bloody pool by the time we're done, hopefully in my old folks home anyway :)

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NDC commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 5:16pm

If I got one little drainer that thickened up like that at my local I would live off it for weeks ... I dunno if pools are good, bad, evil, doomed or the future but that looked SICK!

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Lottolonglong commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 6:15pm

How many would be keen to go down by bus leaving northern beaches in syd?
I got a quote in Feb for $6000 for a luxury 57 seater leaving 9pm Fri night, leaving Tullamarine at 11pm sun arriving back northern beaches at midnight sun night?

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indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 6:17pm

Looks super sick, cant wait to have a go.

Watching both this vimeo vid linked and the stab one though, gee's the wind changes things, heaps more than you would expect in a pool.

Looks so much more straight edged and crisp in vimeo vid while stab one looks heaps more wonky.

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innatube commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 6:49pm

Spot on Indo. The waves live on tv this morning were wonky 2ft dribblers with every 2nd rider falling off partly because of the wobble / chop i reckon. Not very inspiring live.

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steveh commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 6:49pm

I watched today from outside the fence between 9:30am and 10:30am. Each time the waves were produced there were about 5 waves on the left and 5 on the right. They looked great fun but there was a definite pecking order with the two hot guys taking the first two waves and the the young girl taking the third. The next two waves were unridden in the left side of the pool. All surfers were back in the take off area before the next set around 5 minutes later. My impression was that it might be a hassle to get a wave if there were more than 5 surfers out on the left and 5 on the right. Most of the little hotties pulled out or fell off before the wave completed its journey. It is strange where the pool is located directly opposite Ciloms accomodation near Tullamarine. It will be a winner at $80 per hour as long as only 5 to 6 surfers are sitting in the furthest corner catching the 5 set waves on each side. There is a lot of work to do on the surrounds but there were so many guys in high vis gear working away. It is too far away for me to visit as I live on the coast. It will be interesting to see how the uptake is by the surfers living up in town.

Hubba

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johnson commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 8:16pm

I'm guessing once they're actually open to the public, there'll be no such thing as a pecking order. Regardless of ability, you'll have to line-up and wait for the lifeguard to tell you it's your turn - just like a waterslide at a theme park. And queue jumpers might find themselves evicted.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 24 Nov 2019 at 12:14pm

You Guys do know it's 40 each side
Advanced -15 (re: next comment - Thanks Bukz)

Intermediate - 10 (from 18/nov - Zero)[*Clarification]
*Intermediates not happy & joined Advanced queue.
Videos show more than 15 were in the Advanced Zone
Nov 18 2019 [ Intermediate Wave was Cancelled ]
No news as to squeezing more into Advanced?
Beginners -16
Strictly 1 Advanced surfer per wave but Beginners party wave?
(Now you know why kooks drop in?) Industry Standard.

URBNSURF is 42 each side. (Works out a ride every 6-8mins)
You're right that 1st surfer/s gets an extra wave.
Every age group tires after 1 hour.
Just the cattle class / Convict Millstone vibe that depresses.

Check out the Q&A from Bristol lads (Excellent insight!)
Q&A kicks in @[3:25]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIuwL4C1Au0

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bukz commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 2:03pm

15 each side

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Denyer commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 7:30pm

Positioning it next door to an airport is a master stroke. If you were suffering from the effects of a flat spell and had a little cash to burn, it's $150-$250 for return flights from Adelaide/Brisbane/Gold Coast/Sydney. Pair that with 3-4 hours worth of sessions and you are looking at $500 for a day trip from major cities. I think it will take on a 'strike mission' feel. Sign me up.

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freeride76 commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 7:43pm

I guess that will depend on availability.

it might not be available when you want too take your strike mission.

but yeah, that would be how I would want to use it.

balls deep in a flat spell and looking for instant relief.

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AndyM commented Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 at 8:24pm

I'm guessing that the average punter will not be allowed anywhere near waves like the second and fourth ones.

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 10:45am

Kelly dumped Olympians for Ken & Barbie's Ultimate Dream Wave Pool House.
Team Oz said so long, thanx for all the fish.

If Waco is Freak Peak-Airs
The Ranch was a Barrel-fest
Then why do (Yeppoon,Bristol,Melbourne) surfers look so crabby.
The wave is saying...'how much easier can I make this'...still waiting!
Along comes rows of fidgety teens of all ages all on a first date...(It's so heavy man!)

So what's the real story & will this pool move cost Aussies a Gold Medal.

Being a basher gives us a free pass into shallow pits. More slabs, more waves for us!
Sure basherz suffer more spinal injuries due to free for all.

Boardriders hold back on shallow banks...as they fear falling from a greater height.
tbb believes this is exactly what is holding these surfers back.

They fear fin damage & by own board if they get slammed in shallow Barrel.
So none are riding deep in the pits. (1 sec / in-out slow mo head dip)
The take off seems deep enough but the power pocket is testing them.
Should they go high & fail they risk a painful reminder.
So everyone is surfing similar jerky safe lines...ain't no medal haul here.

So how can this be a good training pool if Surfers are reserved & fearful?
Won't the Olympic Team get injured pushing progressive surfing?
Will advanced training wave settings be off limits due to shallow depth.

Should the surfers be wearing helmets?
Taj Burrow wore a Helmet surfing in shallow WA Surf House.
https://www.communitynews.com.au/joondalup-times/sport/joondalup-taj-bur...
All kidz under 18 must wear Helmets in The Wave Bristol.

These surfers look frightened or reserved & their surfing is regressive.
Parko's worst 10 waves are every wave he's ever surfed in a wave pool. All say Aye!
When do we see anyone's surfing match their wavepool stoke?
How many wavepool vids have we seen over the last month & each vid disappoints!
Imagine if that was an Olympic Event...surfing just regressed 5 years & counting.

You can't help notice Team USA are already surfing out of the Waco ball park.
See latest New Jersey Mall baby Wave Pool...They're smashing that too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6KK58v3sm8

Team Oz rock up at URBNSURF pedalling backwards! (tbb swears it's True!)
Nice Waves...shame about the lame surfing.

tbb is gonna ask experts to pack up yer pool toys & give us intermediates a bash...
"One extra chunky XXXX Slab mate & throw in half a dozen jellies & a Xmas Beetle!"

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bluediamond commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 2:24pm

'These surfers look frightened or reserved & their surfing is regressive.
Parko's worst 10 waves are every wave he's ever surfed in a wave pool. All say Aye!
When do we see anyone's surfing match their wavepool stoke?'
Damn good call TBB. The turns don't compare to the dynamic power and speed the ocean gives them.

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 15 Nov 2019 at 7:37pm

cheers bluediamond...tbb has only half unravelled this.
Hint! The unnatural swell train period is rushing the surfing.
The surfers are robbed of time to perform a 10 point move.

Love to see Ben & Craig combo a pool swell train feature.

tbb will get it going...it's a deal breaker alright.
Just as surfers left Kelly's slow Pool...now rushed with too many lines.

tbb believes he may have written off Kelly's Ranch a bit too soon.
One shit hot free faced wave is 100 x better than 1000 shit hot restricted waves.
Ranch counter affords do overs vs Basket checkout! Next!..Sorry!..Next!...Sorry!...Next!
Thanx again bluediamond, tbb will try not to upset anyone as the waves are great.

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Cjaffa commented Saturday, 16 Nov 2019 at 7:13am

$80 an hour! shit makes snow skiing look cheap !!!

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Greenfrog commented Saturday, 16 Nov 2019 at 2:10pm

Wouldn’t mind one in the Singapore airport transit lounge to kill an hour

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braudulio commented Saturday, 16 Nov 2019 at 3:44pm

When's the Swellnet cam being installed?

‘IF YOU UNDERSTAND, things are just as they are;
if you do not understand, THINGS ARE JUST AS THEY ARE.’

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truebluebasher commented Saturday, 16 Nov 2019 at 5:16pm

Q: What is the max number of waves per hour before Wave Pool standards slip?
A: Congratulations if you said 4 waves a minute or 240 waves per hr.

So why that number & what happens when you exceed that amount?
This amount strictly applies to dangerous surf craft not soft-boards/swimmers
It takes around 15 secs to clear an inshore line after a 'standard dunking' wipeout.

A typical 3ft Point barrelling swell may run at 13-15 secs (Please help Ben!)
Ad in some sweep & generally the coast is clear, apart from snakes & set pack ratz.
Yes! We all encounter the bear trap anchored to a blind man.(Brings us to next point!)

*Wave Intervals

URBNSURF (Wave interval of 8 secs)
(Above feature Vid) pause:[1:32] (Approx 5 pros are sharing each line-up!)
Surely they'd be attacking the head & chewing it to bits! (Quite the opposite is true!)
3 blind mice all caught disarmed on the inside like a learners group...What gives?
Note these are the best Surf Industry Pros & Surf Movie Moguls in-house editing.

Try the Stab URBNSURF full length feature: (Again we see a triple bear trap?)
8 pro surfers 13 bear traps +17 wipeouts...Worst Pool Promo ever...it's pathetic!
So what's turning our Pros into stuck in the Mud crabs ruining everyone's fun.
And why can't we see more shit hot Swan surfing Clips?

tbb undertook a review & sure enough it's a Wave Pool disease in plague proportion.

The Wave Bristol (Wave interval of 7 secs)
Aerial Vid shows triple Bear trap & all sorts of mayhem.

The Wave Pov Vid (1 Left session + 1 Right session)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y98emK6uYLo
[Score card] 1-Double -Triple trap (yep!) + 4-double traps + 6 single traps.
Total lives saved-18 (Waves lost-12) That's in one Left/Right session. (Recreation?)

Waco Vid Session (12 Right waves >11 Left waves)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdPFyMYvA84
[score card] Right = 6 traps + Left =7 traps
Also a reverse learner wave on each showing 2 more loose boards (Out of Frame)

*10 Things to know about The Waco Wave Pool (by Super branded)
https://www.superbranded.com/blogs/news/10-things-to-know-about-the-waco...
No.2 ..."Bring a little ding repair kit too -
-Your boards are gonna be bonkin into bodies and concrete."
Yes! tbb verified a collision in Waco Vid as with most wavepool vids (Not Safe!)

Surf Lakes (Wave interval of 5 seconds) Note only ever 2 wave sets shown?
Recent D Day vid shows a collision + front surfers waving to (next & only wave).

tbb asserts that 5 sec' interval would increase collisions to shut down the wave pool.
Note: Waco 'Demo' pushed out 3 waves in 12 seconds...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjZ96dfuCzM

ALL say their pet wave pools can ramp up waves & height in given time.(Safety!)

The commercial Wave Pools are showing over half the waves carry danger.
Crowded, Hard & Shallow without helmets but here's the main reason why...

Down the Line (Deep wipeout) costs 16 secs & wears 3 waves back to queue
Forcing mid wipeout costing 11 secs now a double foul on next wave
1st joins 2nd to wipe out 3rd nearing mid bank...(A triple bear trap)- re: Above.
The next surfer boycotts to join them, allowing process to repeat verbatim.
Each wave is powerful enough to dislodge but not drift so all clump in line-up!
No rules as to standing abandoned blind to line-up & dart either way at random.

Rejoin hunting pack of buddy surfers using charm offensive.(So,So... Sorry dudes!)
Each solemnly do swear never ever to do anything to foul their partners next wave.
The surfers politely self regulate surfing standard & tone it down to clear the line.
Ask yourself! How many Airs can you fail, before your pool buddy loses it!
Thereby Wave Pool Surfing dumbs down per wave intervals under 15 seconds.

tbb recalls the '70's Leggies + Wetties + Short Board conquest of the 7 seas.

Recalls the Grubby Skate Bowls giving our sister Skater Chix the flick.
Even recall the Skate Parks & Oceanways re-paving the way for Skater Chix
Surfers claim wave Pools are Skate Bowls and we see Surf Chix run outta town.
Mums & daughters lived in wave pools.(Only pro Chix dare venture the pit now)
Surfers Pools promote Wetties or G-Strings neither appeal to 99% of women.
Note G-Strings are banned from all Oz pools...(Only Pro Chix afford decent Wetties)
Ask! Would your sister hire a grubby wave pool wettie?
Would Dad throw his little angel into the crash up derby pit.

[ WARNING ] tbb's research confirms you're more likely to collide in rapid wave pools.
More importantly-be ready for it & more times than not...see real vidz for yourselves.

We could delay Pool waves up to 15 seconds to improve all aspects of Surfing.
In fact tbb recommends a review before someone gets hurt & Surfing suffers.
This can't continue as a piss-up & no, the Grog Licence won't sort it either.

[disclaimer] tbb bodybash'd original Oz wave pool & thinks wave pools are fun.
Swans, basherz, Rainbow Unicorns all gonna crash the Pro's Wave pool Party...

[0:28] Once Pro bullies used pool boys as ramps we knew the Pool Party was over!
https://vimeo.com/366469818

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tango commented Saturday, 16 Nov 2019 at 6:28pm

If Kai has to compress like that to fit inside one, there's no hope for 80% of the punters.

It's also quite interesting that a lot of people are going to value a wave at around $8-10. It puts the value of the surfing experience into an easily packaged monetary value which could be extrapolated/transferred with some work behind it (as surely natural waves and the natural environment are more highly valued than artificial ones) to justify protecting natural surf breaks and treating recreational surfing interests more seriously in coastal management. Which would be a good thing.

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stunet commented Saturday, 16 Nov 2019 at 6:30pm

That's a realy good point, Tango.

I can see that being woven into future coastal management debates.

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Blowin commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 2:40pm

Agree .

Just puts it into perspective the absolute riches that we , as the second and third generation of modern surfing , have been fortunate enough to have had the opportunity of experiencing.

I’ve got a mate , a really nice fella , who was at the cutting edge of the early nineties Dolesploitation movement. Of course he was much more than a slack jawed welfare recipient. He was , first and foremost, an entrepreneur of the scrub . He made shit happen. Hard work , risk and reward.

And each winter he’d disappear to Indo for a few months.

Setting up camp in town , he’d relocate to the peninsula and pick the eyes out of the swells and the sessions.

He had it dialled , running on a seperate program to the boys . Wake late . Avoid the morning sickness. Relax into the day with a goodbye romp in the hay with the princess from the night before. Take his time to get out there. Work the tides . Then slay the afternoon as the backlit goodness revealed itself. The vast majority of crew having retreated into town and an early beer . That’s when he worked his magic. Seems like common knowledge now , but it wasn’t then .

Different days then. The Bukit was virtually uninhabited at night and the scooter crew bailed early. The arvo and the late was ripe for a set- predator.

Then he’d drive back into town late and sober. Dark and pissy in Kuta. He’d arrive late to the party and wreak havoc amongst the girls who’d flown all the way to Bali just to get themselves busted up by the surfers.

Wake late .....repeat.

Then he’d watch the old isobars ....when there was an onion off SW WA the waves were due 2-3 days later. Jump on a cockroach boat to tengareah and go harder than the bloke next to you.

I love his stories.

Literally priceless experiences .

Even the Waterman of the year with his billions of covetous dollars can’t buy that shit.

A life well lived.

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gunther commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 12:28pm

Keep the stories coming please blowin!

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tango commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 12:42pm

Yep, keep em coming, but I'm not sure how I'll inject them into coastal management discussions....

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Blowin commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 2:50pm

Yeah , sorry about that digression, Tango .

You just got me with your description of the future ability to monetarily account for the recreational experience of surfing. It’ll be a shame that such economic reductionism is required to defend/ legitimise the joyful act of waveriding or the inherent spiritual comfort derived from a pristine environment, but it’ll obviously be the ammunition for future battles to preserve - or even enhance- our way of life as surfers.

My point was that when the time arrives and our day at the beach ,getting shacked and sharing stoke , is all quantifiable and a dollar value attached , will only verify that which most surfers already know .....That paddling back out after a good wave ,well surfed is better than money in the bank.

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Craig commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 3:33pm

Lord.

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Blowin commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 4:08pm

Too much , you think ?

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 17 Nov 2019 at 11:24am

England Coastline Celebs lock out Ramblers.
France is actually free to roam thru any private beach.
Asia locks up best beaches by on charging for Headland -Pier to island..
(Oz example would be a fee on Victor Harbour Causeway to Granite Island).

Doctrine of Accretion..
Australia has 3 Land Owners that argue a private beach as to receding low tide line.
Tangalooma Resort (Moreton Island)...Security calls Cops to evict beachcombers!
Lyndsay Fox- Point King Beach ...Runs a Helicopter & Jetty across "his" beach.
Old Bar NSW North Coast...Residents want seawall with Private Beach Partitions.
tbb knows of pre council contracts-now bridge to tide line, thus prohibiting thru fare.

Beach prices...
Recently tbb priced 'Surf Comp' Entry Prices...[2018 AUD] ( Beach vs Wave pool )

ASP Stubbies $6 / Tokyo Olympics $40 / WSL Huntington $220 - $3,600(vip)

WSL Ranch Wave Pool: ($150-$13,850)

Non Comp Beach Access Fees...
#1 WSR / WH - Kgari (Vehicle) $52.75 fee + $200 min/rtn (Ferry)= $252.75 surf/day.
Walk on -$60 return (Poorly hidden WH beach Tax - possibly #1 beach access price?)

Non Comp Wave Pool Fees...
Darwin - $0.01 cent/hr -(re: pass) or URBNSURF-$ 80.00/hr (Approx) or Ranch $8,400/hr
https://www.saltwatersuites.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/IYX534835_...
https://previews.123rf.com/images/fritzifoto/fritzifoto1503/fritzifoto15...
https://inspiringtravellers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/IMG_1194-750-...

tango...here's a reward for such thoughtful insight.
In the year 2000 -University of Qld economist asked a very similar Question.
What is a surfing beach worth or more to the point how much would beachgoers pay.
This may have been the only study before & since.(some here may recall this study)
https://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s148312.htm

tbb adds "WSR" as same iconic surfing beaches were studied.
Gold Coast + Sunshine Coast + Cottesloe all crowded free spirited surf beaches.
Premise was to pay more for better extended [ Patrolled Surfing (Bathing)Reserves ]
All agree a clever Question, as results can double for Surfers WSR Patrol...(Right!)
Note: SLSWA instantly dismissed charging beachgoers money for volunteer Patrols.

Drumroll ////// * { $1.50 } in year 2000 or ($2.50 > 2018 aud)

Visitors Levy Tin rattle tips $10m approx into those three beaches alone.
Also note how Aussies relate to fair ASP ticket price & not WSL Cub Med tips jar.
Surfing Value also underpins most Tourism Reports sadly with rubbery figures.

Surf 20 waves for 1 cent in Darwin / $80 URBNSURF / $625 for one wave in Kelly's pool.
We do see smallest abundant waves as cheapest > largest rare species as premium (Hunting)
tango could be right! But the price extremes are wildly alarming & don't wash with the natives.
Note cheapest running wave pools push out more waves vs (Premium Storm Rider Licences?)
Current plan: Govt irons out beach breaks for Tombstones & locks up WSR for the wealthy.

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tango commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 12:49pm

Nice work TBB.
I reckon there are more than 3 landowners - the ones you've listed are high profile to be sure. There are over 50,000 ambulatory land title boundaries around Sydney alone which migrate according to the shoreline - a lot of them have contested their titles by claiming land via doctrine of accretion, though most have been contested informally through illegal protection works as I understand it, rather than through the courts. Belongil being a case study in point.
Re surfing economics, value of rec surfing, value of the beach - there's a whole body of literature now around valuing coastal things traditionally not considered economic value, including surfing. Google Neil Lazarow, Dan Ware, Dave Anning and others. Very interesting stuff, and very relevant to preserving access to surf breaks as climate impacts and coastal recession kick in properly.

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wurtulla commented Sunday, 17 Nov 2019 at 4:36pm

must say the water looks nice and green. I imagine this wave pool will consume a ton of power per day to run at high capacity. 貪欲

keepSurfin

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spuddyjack commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 11:58am

Might be fun for some but it sure as shit ain't soul surfing. Whole new cohort of pool only "surfers" who'll be aspiring to the Olympic synthetic gig. Digital snappers, please confirm if your tight shots are poolside or otherwise - oh and heaven forbid - if it's a pool don't reveal the location!!!

Stay salty

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gunther commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 3:29pm

No doubt that wave pools are starting to look like legit quality surfing waves, but i have absolutely no interest in setting foot in one. I guess i've learned that for me, 'surfing' is about a lot more than just waves.

Also, no doubt that wave pools will take performance surfing to new heights (quite literally, given the airs we've seen), but i'm curious to see how the pool skills will transfer to the chaos of the ocean.

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ojackojacko commented Monday, 18 Nov 2019 at 3:20pm
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john.lipscomb commented Tuesday, 19 Nov 2019 at 10:23pm

I know this looks like surfing, but, really, it’s just not. This is like sex with a prostitute. No soul, no love, no joy. Just a quick bit of wet with no real gratification.

Surfing is spending two hours in the queue at customs. Surfing is the boat ride out past the reef. Surfing is reading the synoptic charts and tides and . Surfing is landing in the middle of the jungle airstrip at the Ments, or the boat ride back from the Ments to the mainland on a stormy night crying with your mates because you think the boat is going to disintegrate and your body will wash up on the mainland a few days later like a bloated pig carcass. Surfing is the sweat washing over you as you walk back up the steps at Nang Nang, wrecked and wasted with nothing to show but a snapped board. Surfing is the itch in your soul you can’t scratch and the feeling of restlessness you can’t escape till you run and jump and yell and fight as a hundred tonnes of water crush you deep. Surfing is when your leggy hooks on a head of coral at five foot Middles and you only survive because know the drill: Fight! against the current, leg, ankle, leg rope, loop, pull, and the ocean sets you free. Surfing is sending your mate an email to let him know you snapped his board in black water in south west Victoria (sorry Steve). Surfing is a burst eardrum when you didn’t even make the wave. Surfing is watching as young hotties take the waves you kicked ass on 25 years ago. Surfing is fumbling with your keys and shivering and shaking on a grey August morning because your hands are too number to hold the keys, let alone open the door and start the fucking engine!! Surfing is dropping into cold dark water, double overhead, hoping like fuck your board stays in contact with the water and you can find a bottom turn. Surfing is walking lonely up the beach, not sure if the four am start and the bleary eyed drive to the coast was worth it, but knowing you’ll do the same thing again and again and again whether you catch the wave of your life or two foot on shore drivel or nothing at all.

No. It sort of looks like surfing. But it’s not.

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Stok commented Tuesday, 19 Nov 2019 at 10:32pm

I'd say this is closer to surfing than spending 2 hours in the queue at customs.

Fair point though.

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simba commented Wednesday, 20 Nov 2019 at 6:04am

yeah but its better than nothing

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Jnrjep commented Wednesday, 20 Nov 2019 at 7:58am

Happened in skateboarding 30yrs ago.
That terrains not skating its a gutter not a pool blah blah blah. To the future ,new generation dont care its all skating.And it is . Different experiences of one past time

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amb commented Wednesday, 20 Nov 2019 at 11:01am

Please dont build one in Adelaide, me and my mates would go broke.

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 20 Nov 2019 at 9:35pm

URBNSURF
Free Parking + Charter Bus for Groups (URBNSURF > Bus info?)
Train/Tram/Skybus to end stop > Buses [478/479] Vic Buses >[No Surfboards] link-
https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/more/travelling-on-the-network/luggage-allowa...
URBNSURF Airport Walk...tbb advises to check Google Earth -Paths/Shade/Water?

Park Hours (Summer) 6am - 10pm < > (Winter) 9am - 6pm
No Commercial cams - (Phones & Go Pro OK)
No Glass / Grog / Meals -( Snacks & drink bottle OK)

Surf fee- $79
Video > How to wipeout in shallow pool + Pool entry - Only via Life Guard direction.
Surf one side only per session - choose [L] or [R] Wristband (Policing)
No partnering or party waves (Strictly 1 surfer per wave)

Water Temp. Summer 20-25* / Autumn+Spring 13-17* / Winter Single digit - 13*
Booties are recommended for winter + Keep gloves & hoodie handy.

Community Events / Surf Festivals / Surf Flix / Product Demos
2020 Urbnsurf Boardriders Club (Autumn) + Am' Surf League

Wave settings...(18 +)
Malibu > Waikiki/s > Giros (4) Pointbreak -Trestles >Tubos (5) > Beast >(Ramp soon)

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The MIDdleman. commented Thursday, 21 Nov 2019 at 7:10am

Looks dangerous to me.
The 2 foot slider with all the crew (in nature) can be more dangerous than the 5 foot crowd thinner.

Etiquette and competency to A: not run someone over and B: get outta the way ain't going to be a thing in the pool.

I can see some serious slices in the making.

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truebluebasher commented Thursday, 21 Nov 2019 at 5:41pm

The MIDdleman is right that the closer the wave interval the more debris.
15 secs 1 surfer > 12 secs 2 surfers > 10 secs 3 surfers > 8 secs 4 Surfers.
As pools don't have line-up sweep...each surfer clumps in line-up (Nowhere to go?)
More waves the Machine pushes out the more Debris in the lineup= More Collisions.
As said above- Waco locals say to bring a ding repair kit.

Surfers could argue for Half price as 2 or more surfers interfere on every 2nd wave!

tbb believes a safety review will set minimum Wave intervals.
12-15 secs for low powered learner slush.(Time to 'detour' around slip'n'slide learner)
15-20 secs for beastly slabs (Gives a realistic all clear after heavy Wipeout recovery)
4 waves/min = 240/hr or (15 surfers 16 waves/hr max -$80) Minus wave charge time!

Running 8 second Slabs with 4-6 bodies is more of a blood bath than wave pool.

Every second lost on a wave costs another [10] point manoeuvre!
Whereas rushed repetitive pool waves will string pocket moves quicker & better...
[10] (Pro's) > [8]< (Kooks) [6] -Every surfer will score min [6] max [8] forever!
Measured or manually timed Wave intervals clears the way to surf more >[10]s

WSL beefcakes crash out as Nanogromz cloudburst & gently kiss the lily pad.
Future is 8-12 y/old Rip Curl Bath time Bratz.
Vid blogz of A List Surfer Moms fighting over G String leotards for next wavepool meet.

Pool Clock big hand says: 'Soap on a Rope' [8.7654321] vs 'No more Tears' [8.7654320]
One misplaced microdot of spray robbed the town of it's pre teen milch calf...(So Sad!)
Famous Surf Movie Line: "Love the smell of Chlorine in the morning!"

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truebluebasher commented Thursday, 21 Nov 2019 at 9:44pm

[NEWS] The Wave Bristol.

[ Intermediate wave has been Cancelled ]

Swellnet crew all told them it was shitty from day one!

Owner: 'Doesn't look like it will be ready anytime soon!'
The Wave Bristol is losing $75,000 / wk with middle break off line.
Unsure if they bundle Middle Earth Reffos into Business Class?

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/surf-sessions-wave-...

URBNSURF el pronto espano Rescue Manual.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 24 Nov 2019 at 12:47am

Look away from the waves...and a quick gaze around is most telling & alarming
(Above Vid)
[0:53] re: Wall cut outs allowing Life Guard easy access into Corner Take off Zone
Notice right hand path is drenched, Life Guards wouldn't work in a Slip'n'slide zone
Pumped up for [Pro-slow-mo] Pool Regulation will whittle these waves down to size.

[1:07] Paints 1,000 words...Mid Left Wall is the heartbeat of the Wave Pool.
Nearest to Facilities
Sun = Chix + Board'n'bagToss + Park Bench + Group Camp / Sit & hang on pool wall.

Notice alarmingly low wall affords easy pool entry from busy surrounding path!
Videos show paddlers cross from this left side, maybe a rogue (blind) entry point.

The owner mentioned that Airport over rides Council Bylaws (Highlighted here!)
(Knee height wall?) Universal Pool surround height is 1.2m & no foothold to 900mm
This prevents toddlers & kidz from scaling the wall of Australia's most turbulent pool.
Can dob them in to build a higher wall & score higher waves! Win! Win!

(Pause) YouTube Bans Booger vidz sliding into still water Dams (because it's idiotic!)
[1:31] Pool operator films & shares a kid on a bar stool leaning into the maelstrom.
Also shows Mum on the camera & frames Pool owner not metres away during shoot.

Further along the wave splashes over said lower knee height wall- cutting walkway.

Lifeguard goes to rescue stool kid- avoids line-up-runs trips on boards/bags & slips?
Surfers & pool owners can see danger lurking...this is no pool safety video.
tbb reminds that for the most wildest pool in Oz...Safety is paramount.

We never did see Life Guards after Day one Promo...
https://i.imgur.com/7HTpRyj.jpg
Free Tip! Misleading public about SLSA Patrols does not go down well in Oz.

20th Nov 2019 (Part 2) of above Featured Video (Surfing for Everyone)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6htk8LtotLw

[0:19] tbb is calling 1st Jump Off -Surfer Camps with board on wall above wave pit
Oddly resembles the Owner (That would be impossible!) Richie Rich Party Trick!

[1:32]All those kidz wading about & Lifeguard Tower sure looks lonely with No Patrol.
[1:51 +2:13] Fully clothed boots'n'all in the central slip'n'slide.(No pool attire-No Rails)

tbb had no idea the pool was not Patrolled until Pool Owner's blooper reels.
URBNSURF keep insisting their wave pool is patrolled. (SLSA deserve an apology)
Again on behalf of surfers...don't even think about blaming SLSA for pool safety FAIL.

This pool operator should wise up & have more sense before someone drowns.
If no pool fencing or Life Guards then double supervision not pool stools & luggage.

4 minutes of heavily edited in house footage to see such danger is alarming!
Hate to think of the out-takes..summer is here, let's all take pool safety more seriously.
tbb is fair! This is a wake up call with time to sort it before opening day...Good Luck!

PS..You might wanna review increased wave count is also increasing collisions.

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dawnperiscope commented Sunday, 24 Nov 2019 at 7:44am

I agree that the line up will be littered with bodies and boards if average punters attempt a 10 wave set of the beast. So collisions are likely and injury is also probable from contact with all that concrete close by. I'd suggest they need some kind of skill assessment / certificate before people can have a crack at it to minimise this risk.

Of course any serious incidents will be bad for business, they are smart guys so I'm sure they will have systems in place to manage the risks. But at the end of the day surfers sign a waiver and enter at own risk, it's not a public swimming pool.

Ride on

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 24 Nov 2019 at 7:32pm

dawnperiscope knows basherz could barrel lei Team Australia in those slabs.
Yet we're not even allowed in cattle class queue for a Cornflakes token.
2005 Hard Plastic boards injuries resulted in ban from all Oz Water Parks
These Boardriders Pool certificates be OK for rad old school racier models
https://www.parkz.com.au/forums/topic/4161-the-off-topic-topic/?page=127

Sure if pool was to please a few skegz...enter at own risk (Perhaps)
Every Boardriders wavepool going back 50 years ended up as froot loop soup.
A few hours a day is all you'll get once the ink is dry the waves dry up.
URBNSURF has government funded exclusive clientele to hook..so hop to it!

URBNSURF by default do promise the safest pool of all & it has to be for many reasons.
Airport Pool voids civic compliance but entertains State run bodies that must comply.

URBNSURF Wave pool Lifeguard needs RLS (Pool Bronze)+ ALSV (Surf Bronze)
URBNSURF hires ALSV Lifeguards that are encouraged to rotate operations
"LSV applauds the development of an iconic aquatic centre that will contribute to addressing the safety of Victorians in, on & around water. LSV looks forward to exploring the mutually beneficial opportunities for collaboration arising from the development of URBNSURF Melbourne!"
URBNSURF SLSC plans Ironmen, Nippers, Paddleboards, Lap Swimmers for this pool.
URBNSURF wish to partner State Education Department for school sports via RLS + SA.
Also the ALSV + SA Holiday Camps (Anything kidz is #1 Govt handout future proof)
Wavegarden Surf Academy is an in-house global hybrid Surfing / Lifesaving Career Program.
Surf Academy then jettisons SA / SLSA into it's own World League.

Wave Pool Sporting users include Oz biggest : NRL + AFL + AIS + Olympics
Vic Health + Paralympics will tip in for Adaptive Surfing
Every Govt funded partner insists on #1 regulated fully compliant wave pool.
Safety is paramount to hooking every known OZ wide Govt handout.
Note: URBNSURF is wavegarden's global Govt funding model.
Think Wavegarden Jock Surf College graduating onto WSL Uni degrees.

tbb has not touched on Sups/Canoes or Kidz & Bucks/Hens parties.
Surfboard riding will slowly but surely fade from view unless Govt pays.

URBNSURF promo vids show No Leggies, Twin set Boards, twin rider waves..
This type of Surfing is strictly prohibited in sister Bristol pool.
Note Oz differences...if SLSA pays then Nippers ain't wearing no spazz legropes.

As said if waves are pounding at 8 secs...chuck the fuckin board. (Bear Traps Kill).
All sub 10 second wave pools hot wire 3 bare traps.(Basherz BYO cheese grater)
Just get used to slotting the 12 blade blender & the pool boy says no more leggies!

tbb is convinced that owner is teaching jump offs from left corner.
We see owner alone in his spy corner also sitting on wall with Board as said?
Now another Surfer sits on exact same mount > waiting to jump a Wave @ (End of Vid)
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5FHm3wnSmy/
tbb is sure this 'jump seat' edit was left in as one could easily edit the ending out?
All part of street cred pool beat up ...'The slabz are so heavy man...got any acid Drops!'

Now add all the Kidz camped on the wall + kid on chair & crap everywhere.
Maybe try a bigger ramp, smaller waves & a longer Vans Billboard Wall.

URBNSURF Front Page "Safe Controlled Environment" / Promo Vidz
This is where tbb & all Govt bodies are being fed these bloopers...
Can only see money slipping thru fingers & going down the drain..
tbb reports obvious truths...perhaps owner is oblivious to Surfing's Rep?

Team Australia at Tulla Tub
https://urbnsurf.com/stories/teamaustraliatraining/

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udo commented Sunday, 24 Nov 2019 at 11:35am

Adam Robbo been hacking the left like a Grom...throwing buckets...

kaki bibaita

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 2 Dec 2019 at 2:37am

Latest Urbnsurf Site Upgrade has plenty of info & prices...that wins praise!
tbb recommends the crew comb thru the detail as the goal posts have shifted.

Astro! I have a feeling we're not in Bristol Anymore.
A lot more Rub a Dub Dub in the Tulla Tub...

2019 Urbnsurf 42 /side = 84 total vs Bristol total 41 / side = 82 (- 20 Intermediates )
19/Nov Bristol Intermediate Wave failed & was closed down...losing $75,000/wk

2020 (URBNSURF Pool Numbers have ramped up quite a lot)
Beginners 24 / Side) vs ( Bristol Beginners + [L] 16 / side)
Learners 8 / Side) vs (Bristol [L] don't read additional to beginners)
Intermediate 18 / Side) vs ( Bristol 10 / side)
Advanced 18 / Side) vs ( Bristol 15 / side)

Urbnsurf > 68 (Each Side)Total =136 surfers vs Bristol 31/ side = Total 62 (Current)

Crew might argue that 3 more a side in Advanced ain't gonna blow the deal! (As if!)

urbnsurf (Products)-Intermediate Surf Sessions ($59- $79) [re: Wording is very clear]
: Score 1hr of perfect waves at 'the Point' > Advanced Wave!
https://urbnsurf.com/products/

Urbnsurf know Wavegarden Intermediate wave fail closure loses $75,000 /Week
Urbnsurf are pushing extra Intermediates into extra Advanced point to max it out!
36 surfers on left point & 36 surfers on right point...(For how long?) See Bristol..
Technically the strict Point amount is half of URBNSURF push quota..(Not safe!)
Note: URBNSURF took a real long time fiddling these numbers & prices (No mistake!)

Currently over half of Bristol Waves are littered with debris, Tulla doubles that count.
Advise operator to Dial 000 State Emergency Service before they fire up the Beast.
Greed over safety...(Crowds are ramping way over long stated wave pool maximum)
A disaster waiting to happen and a blatant rip off at best...

re: Rules state one surfer per wave, demand clear face solo wave run or money back!
tbb is happy to be proved wrong on Pool numbers...as they only spell danger.

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 9 Dec 2019 at 10:40pm

URBNSURF (Fine Print) It's the little things that matter!

Pool is open to waders,swimmers,bodysurfers,body/short/longboards,Sups

Surfer is billed for Hire repairs- eg: (theft / dings / fin blow outs / gouges / scratches)

Compulsory Wristbands may foul bodysurfer's lead arm or hook Oar wrist.

No mention of Helmets for any age group? (Bristol helmets are compulsory for U18)

As with current Bristol Pool...No intermediate Wave Zone is allotted or available.
Bristol cancelled Intermediate Surfing..Melbourne promote Intermediate to Advanced.
Melbourne Intermediate Surfers (must) > > surf in the "Advanced Point Zone!"
18/hr Intermediate + 18/hr Advanced per side = (Max- 18/hr 'Point' berths per side?)

Win a prize to work that one out...Sure smells like a double up / cover up!
Either surfers wait twice as long & Halve Wave Count or waves are running @ 4 secs

Clever Hot Shots might book Intermediate Packs & save quite a bit in 'Point' zone!

Surfer's Code
(More than half of Bristol wavegarden waves have road blocks) re: POV vid!

Bristol allows 2 takes / Melbourne one take off miss then go to back of queue.
Melbourne has more in pool & on waves, resulting in more surfers & debris in line-up.

Wipe out
Avoid paddling green face, stay in whitewater & paddle around to channel, hug pier!
If you break this rule then apologize & go to the back of queue (Sounds tough!)
Any surfer held up by kook cannot jump ahead of end of line Kook! (Auto Repeat!)
Kook is model surfer's nemesis..."Just keep clear dude,'cause I'm working on my airs!"

URBNSURF vs The Wave Bristol (Similar pools but very different capacity & rules)
Melbourne is more crowded with surfboards & less precaution (Expect collisions!)

Buy shares in URBNSURF Sun Cure Ding Repair Kits + Waterproof Band Aids.

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gcuts commented Tuesday, 10 Dec 2019 at 6:54pm

Is it true that Swellnet's founder n CEO is getting a taste of the tulla tub this week?

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thermalben commented Tuesday, 10 Dec 2019 at 7:01pm

Dunno who the CEO is, but Stu and I were there yesterday. Will have a story up tomorrow.

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truebluebasher commented Tuesday, 10 Dec 2019 at 9:09pm