I dont know if any of you remember but since im on a strong medication anti psychotic ive continually had trouble losing weight.
Ive tried fasting to zero effect, walking, riding bikes and a home gym in my spare room.
Ive tried eating only Lebanese bread with salad and turkey meat. little effect.
I have a bike but i got ripped off and need to get it fixed, ive tried walking 5 kms a day but i lose interest in it and it hurts my ankles.
Anyone have any advice? i dont drink beer or spirits or wine, the odd doobie once a week or less.
I feel like the meds im on really helped my mental health but make me gain weight which the doctors refuse to get me off of.
Anyone have any advice?
Try not to look at the weight as an end goal but a bonus if it happens.
Strength, functional ability and mobility are better goals. If you get too focused on the weight aspect and aren’t seeing results you can lose motivation when it’s a side effect of your meds and may be a little outside your control.
You’ll need some form of resistance training in your weekly program.
Diet wise - whole foods, high quality proteins, avoid added sugars, breads, processed foods and meats.
Do that and you should feel good, healthy, strong and if you lose weight that’s a bonus.
Thanks for that lost doggy
Have a look at a keto diet , 70% fat 25 % protein 5% carbs , and the simple fact that you must consume less calories than you burn , you can get apps that help with all this , Cronometer is a good free app . Diet is 80% of how to lose weight, try to cut out all white foods like flour , milk , rice . Eggs and cauliflower are fine , above ground vegetables are best with plenty of leafy greens , don’t count vegetables in your carbs total they are needed when you have. High fat diet . Good fats are things like virgin olive oil , salmon , sardines , avocado , macadamia nuts , pecans, walnuts. If you can get organic products all the better and grass fed beef . I lost 25 kg when I blew out doing the fifo thing for too long and operating plant and driving 12 hours a day I didn’t get much exercise besides bending the elbow after work . I think the previous comments from lostdoggy are very important and I’m just sharing what I did to lose weight. Intermittent fasting was also very good for me , I did 16/8 bot found 22/2 was best and once a month I fasted for 48 hours . Again if you burn more calories than you consume you will lose weight . 3kg a month is easily done if you stick to it and don’t beat yourself up if you have a pig out day . I understand the meds your on contribute to your weight gain so speaking to your doctor about a keto diet would be advised . The brain loves healthy fats .
Will look into that supafreak thanks.
Lose weight approach that has worked for me who does exercise but also for my partner who does not and is on anti psychotic medications.
Eat a small but normal breakfast. Eat a small but satisfying lunch. Eat a small but satisfying dinner. If you starve yourself or miss meals you will end up doing a binge.
No bread. Few potatoes Very limited pasta or rice. More salad. Cut green beans used a lot in stir fries and to bulk up meals.
No treating yourself to something like chocolate or a bun etc. No sugar.
Treat is to have berries and yoghurt.
Reduced portion size is a huge change for me. I now eat half to a third of what i used to. I cook so had to trim things back at the point of preparation a lot.
The discipline to say "no" to yourself at the point of temptation over and over is important. Also when shopping you have to just walk past certain aisles. Buying a pack of 3 bread rolls means a roll for lunch and one left over which you don't want to waste so you eat it too. Much easier to stop at the point of purchase and never buy any rolls.
You are on the balance point of a seasaw. Slight shifts either way through sticking to being disciplined and getting slack shift you from loss to gain quickly. A bunch of good days pay off. Eating more can shift you into no loss or gain very easily.
Took a while to show results but it has led to steady weight drop with minimal fuss.
I could have sped it up if after a few big surf sessions I had not "rewarded" myself with an extra helping of cereal type of thing.
For me chasing surf really helps. Burns up energy but it feels good to be lighter and more agile. Surfing fast breaking waves adds incentive. Surfing a shorter board also stops you being lazy. Mini-mal made me lazy and have a "a few kilos do not matter" attitude
The above approach is not complicated. No calorie counting. It requires not much thought to menu planning or buying fancy stuff. Eat much the same in many ways as before just less at meal times.
Snacks are fruit or celery or berries.
On a big rippy day i cant even paddle my mal against the current at Jakes but my mal is heavy.
Ive been riding to the point and back (which is 6km)after i got my bike fixed, seem to be losing around 0.3 kg a day.
Paging Clive Rodell
Theres a heap of great posts on Fitness over on Bali waves - great stuff Clive..
Thanks Udo that seems useful for me.
Good link udo , was great to see him talking about long covid, something the young and indestructible need to take notice of , covid probably won’t kill you but who wants messed up lungs and fatigue when you really need good physical and mental health in order to surf .
Groundswell. The meds effect on weight gain is very real. It can create a a high level of appetite. Sometimes over time the doctors can tweak them to differing options to help. But if you have something that is working for your mental health be very wary of changing drugs as other options may not work and you might end up having months of chaos.
The right mix of meds for any individual is part experiment - not a certain cause and effect. Be thankful if it is working.
A mate with bi polar has found solid exercise is very good addition to his medication. He swims multiple times a week - lots of laps. He surfs a bit too but that is more fickle. The exercise routine has the double benefit of keeping weight off for him and calming his mind.
My personal experience with weight though has always been that what you eat is the big lever. I have put on weight on a Mentawai trip even though I surfed 7+ hours a day due to great food and beer.
Getting used to being a bit hungry is a mental shift. Seeing that as a positive - not something to fix with food.
You need a motivator. For my partner it was health issues from the weight just got too much. Took her years to get properly motivated though. I was part of the problem with portion size though and tended to downplay that for years.
For me surfing has always been the source of motivation - to surf well and not get flogged paddling out.
But I also have never wanted to head down the classic middle age weight gain path as a point of pride and to put off "getting old" as long as I can.
Have any Docs mentioned low dose Metformin to you re the Weight ?
My wife went to a dietician and the advice was really simple.
- Not to do special diets.
Typically they are not sustainable long term. Many are quite unbalanced.
- eat 3 meals a day that satisfy
- don't binge
- focus on portion size
- trim carbs back a fair bit
My wife does pretty much no exercise (complex reasons) and she has still lost 8kg. Now she feels better she might start walking a bit.
Proof that what you eat is hugely important.
Udo no they haven't but my younger brother is on duramine and lost a lot of weight, ill ask my doc about both.hes pepped up on goofballs with that stuff and lost about 12 kilos in two months excersizing and low carb diet
Metformin can be used with along your other meds i think.
Your bro must be zinging does he get much sleep ..
Groundswell daughter is a dietician and many of her patients are in your position, as Udo says diets tend to fail its more about heathy eating the right foods which often means you can actually eat more.
Cut back on carbs (bread, sugar, pastries, cakes, chocs etc) eat more veggies low fat meats / fish.
Next time I see her I will ask about the meds if there is anything different.
Thanks i focus and Udo.
Udo my brother has been a busy bee for two months on duramine. he has built heaps of skate rails etc at the old netball courts here as its a smooth surface and always busy doing something around the house like vacuuming or whatever. our place is spotless.
He doesnt get much sleep but is slowly getting more as time goes on.
Since giving up the booze and ciggies im now saving $300 extra a week which im buying a desert storm step up 6'6 with and hopefully a trip to the mentawais or somewhere when we're allowed to.
I reckon a desert storm would suit me at jakes even if its only 3ft.
Richie Lovetts new brand
Thanks Udo those boards look good, but ive already put down a deposit on a desert storm.
Looking forward to paddling against the rip now. I only went for 6,4 oz on deck 6 oz bottom. But i like my boards relatively light.
That’s what my 6’10 is glassed, groundy.
Still in super good nick after three years.
Cool how does it go? how often do you use it?
edit, i just read the entire ds thread and saw what you said about it....
What do you lot think of sit ups? 7 years ago i did 400-500 a day and was surfing up to my peak.
Now i cant even do one. Do you think situps get rid of a beer belly? my gut just wont dissapear.
Been doing a lot of the tips mentioned here thanks guys. my weight is idling down too 85kilos then back up to 87 all the time but im sure it will eventually drop. My fitness and stamina sure is improving.
I’m sure they will help groundswell.
Just stick to it and the results will come.
Just have to look at it as a long term thing, not a short term solution. This time next year you’ll be feeling a million times better.
Your gut is from your Medication
Get your Cortisol and Testosterone levels checked.
Udo do you think i would be ok with taking duramine? do you know anything about this drug?
its a bit of a stimulant and lack of sleep for me causes hallucinations and psychosis but i sleep well on one of my meds so it might be ok. i just dont know.
My brother is on duramine when he started he was 97kg and now he weighs 84 but seems to be plateauing out around that weight despite heavy excersize every day.
ps all my diet now is super foods from coles, bout 50 packets so ill see how that goes. tastes alright but not huge servings.
Thats for your Doctor to answer but i bet he says no .
Have you had a look into your Gut Microbiome ?
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Udo, no i havent i will look into that and ask my doctor to help me out with it.
Hey Groundswell finally asked the daughter about your weight gain while being on meds and the answer was (as you likely already know) yes its really common.
Got an in depth answer (lots of long medical type names of bits that come into play etc) but the only bit that stuck was the change in Bío Chemistry (I think) as we got side-tracked in why people highly stressed (usually men) cannot lose weight but can when going away and drinking beer, the drinking beer part caught my attention.
Yeah I know really helpful eh.
The short answer was avoid any diets health foods, super foods etc don't fu(k around its your health just see a dietician who can explain the whys and let you know the foods that will work specifically for you.
Surprisingly how there can be major differences between what works for individuals.
ok thank i focus i guess a dietician will help but i'll have to find a good one in Gero i think...i will look into it thanks
There’ll be heaps of dieticians all over the country that do Telehealth appoints too.
You’ll be eligible for a chronic disease mgmt plan (CDM)from your GP as well if you haven’t used it already that provide a contribution ($54.60 I think) to up to 5 sessions with an allied health provider, such as a dietician, per calendar year.
Hey GS the daughter did one of her pracs in Gero said the ladies there (I think there is 4) were very good pretty sure they were based out of the hospital, they did a wide range of work as well as a lot of clinical stuff.
Give the them a shot nothing to lose everything to gain.
Also what Lostdoggy says.