Shutter Lag

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blindboy started the topic in Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 11:31am

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blindboy commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 11:34am

I am looking at buying a Canon camera to use with a telephoto for a few surf shots. What really concerned me was the shutter lag on most models. To get it under about 0.2s I would have to spend a bomb. I haven't really used a DSLR through a telephoto, so any comments would be appreciated.

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thermalben commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 11:42am

What's your budget?

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blindboy commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 11:54am

Ha ha, still negotiating that in house! Well the Canon 5D Mark 4 which has the least shutter lag (0.058s) is going online for$3700 but I don't know if it is necessary to spend that much. A lot of the other models the lag is around 0.2s. Previous experience suggests that could be a problem.

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thermalben commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 12:55pm

Not sure what you mean by shutter lag... I've never had a problem with any of my Canon DSLRs. Though I'm a pretty average photographer.

Craig and I both use one of the older model 7D's, and they're unreal (and about a third of the price). I'd highly recommend it.

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blindboy commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 1:04pm

Shutter lag is the time between pressing the button and the shutter opening. When using digital cameras in the past I have found you can easily miss the high point of the action. I'm thinking about 400mm so I can get reasonably tight. Thanks for that. I will just keep doing the research for a while.

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Fliplid commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 1:30pm

imaging-resource.com is a good site to check out the specs (and reviews). The shutter lags for each camera can be found under "Performance" heading of each review.

Plenty of options other than what you were considering for less cost.

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blindboy commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 2:00pm

Thanks Fliplid, I appreciate the help. I will check it out.

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blindboy commented Saturday, 2 Feb 2019 at 11:30am

Looks like the 7D mk2 is the go. Still thinking about lenses!

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Blowin commented Saturday, 2 Feb 2019 at 11:35am

My missus has the Canon 1300D with 400mm lens and she loves it. Bit cheaper but well adequate for amateur hour. I’ve taken the odd surf photo here and there with it and never found shutter lag to be an issue.

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blindboy commented Saturday, 2 Feb 2019 at 11:45am

Thanks Blowin, a lot of the data about shutter lag was misleading as it included time for the auto focus. Fliplid sent me to a good site that had the manual focus data. I will have a play with the body and a smaller lens to start off but 400mm is probably the go.

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Blowin commented Saturday, 2 Feb 2019 at 12:00pm

You preset the auto focus well in advance of taking a photo. Once you’ve picked your target just a semi tap on the shutter button and range is established. This remains set till you restablish it at another distance.

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blackers commented Saturday, 2 Feb 2019 at 10:31pm

@blindboy, 7D mk ii , with a smaller sensor, will give you better reach with a 400 mm zoom than a 5d mk Iv (saw them on special for under 3k last month so don't pay $3700 if you go 5d), similar to a 600 equivalent on the larger sensor. Shutter lag is unlikely to be an issue if you shoot with high speed burst rate of the 7d ( 10 fps?) or pre focus as per Blowin. Full frame sensor (5d) gives you more to play with when cropping images as well as improved dynamic range, colour depth and resolution. I run a 5d mk iii and older 7d and love both. You can't go wrong with either but buy the canon L lenses.

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blindboy commented Sunday, 3 Feb 2019 at 9:43am

Thanks blackers, all good info. There are some good prices online. I will probably get the body and a smaller lens to start with and go fo longer when I am familiar with the camera. Last time I shot surf photos it was through a Nikon F, so I have a bit if catching up to do on the technology.

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Feralkook commented Sunday, 3 Feb 2019 at 2:06pm

I have a 7D Mk1 which I have been using to shoot rodeo over the years and it has never failed to deliver. The 7D series are consider the "Sports" camera as they shoot more frames faster than a 5D. The smaller sensor camera's do generate quite a bit of noise at higher iso settings so once you go over 400 expect to have to do some work in processing to rectify that.
These were shot with a 7D Mk1 and a Canon 28-135 zoom IS lens @iso 400 so effective focal length was 1.6 times 58mm in sports mode with custom white balance and AI focusing enabled.
https://gabrielephotography.zenfolio.com/p228275230
I would think the mk2 7D had major improvements to the hardware to reduce the noise issues of the first version. What I do recommend is finding a camera and lens hire joint and hire one for a weekend with your lens of choice and go shoot some frames. Hire a Nikon as well and try that out. I have not been overly impressed with my canon glass as I am seeing much better results from Nikon and third party lenses of late. Don't discount paying much less for a tele by using a third party lens like a Tamron, some of their lenses really do deliver for the price.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask.
Cheers!

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blindboy commented Sunday, 3 Feb 2019 at 2:17pm

Good advice there Feralkook. Some great rodeo shots there to back it up as well. Your set up is probably what I will start with, the 7D mark 2 and the 28-135mm. If I master the technology I will step up to a longer telephoto. The 100-400mm zoom would give me roughly 600mm which is similar to what I used to work with (Century 650mm).

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shoredump commented Monday, 4 Feb 2019 at 3:54pm

I asked my brother for you about this BB. He’s been a professional magazine photographer for around 30 years, and they swear by Canon. He said that even with their really good cameras, in low light that auto focus thing can be an issue. Pre focus as mentioned, gets around it. He also said that there is one piece of advice he would offer; you know how I have my focus button on the "star button" on the back of my Canon? Most of us chose to use that custom function, so we don't have to half press the shutter button to focus. So much better control having focus control seperate from actually pushing the shutter button! And also from my brother; And i think he needs to get that 100-400mm telephoto lens! That's the one he really wants! He doesn't need to "master" the standard zoom lens first...

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blindboy commented Monday, 4 Feb 2019 at 4:10pm

Thanks shoredump. All good advice. The 100-400mm is definitely the go.