All Things Religion Thread

Optimist wrote:

From St Pauls letter to the Ephesians....Chapter 1...verses 5-10...NLT
5 God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ.
This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.
6 So we praise God for the glorious grace he has poured out on us who belong to his dear Son.
7 He is so rich in kindness and grace that he purchased our freedom with the blood of his Son and forgave our sins.
8 He has showered his kindness on us, along with all wisdom and understanding.
9 God has now revealed to us his mysterious will regarding Christ—which is to fulfill his own good plan.
10 And this is the plan: ...
At the right time, he will bring everything together under the authority of Christ everything in heaven and on earth.

What a load of horse shit
If he so powerful and all knowing why doesn’t he just reveal himself to us all and let us know we’re well fucked if we don’t comply
Why does the creator of everything need to play games by hoping we’ll be interested in your whacko religion to get us in
Why doesn’t he reveal himself to the majority of the rest of the world that follow other gods and say listen here cunts
Why hasn’t he come back yet
Why why why?
You’re totally mental believing this nonsense.
I notice you never put up any of those abhorrent writings of both the books of bullshit
It’s just all glory of god, glorious grace, showering kindness and it’s his plan.
Come on Opti give us some of the abhorrent stuff your god said

Are you afraid?...from your responses It seems so,,,
,,,over the years mine and many others biggest attackers have been the ones with the most to fear,,
.Reverential fear is healthy,,,It means we know our place in the scheme of things.,,,
When you boil gold all the rubbish comes to the surface...
then you skim it off...
Whats left is pure,,
,,and I've seem many a man become boiled by God ,,, then He skims him,,,,
and is purified by the blood of Christ,

Afraid, hahaha. Of what? An imaginary hell?
The usual no answers to what is asked from Opti. Just more gobbledegook.

Test of Amish Faith comes with a warning...severe mental episode.
Please don't watch or read this if you believe in imaginary tales from an eerie lake or some shit!
Doubt if this is gonna remain on YouTube...break the internet or yer minds or God's Heart!
It's so fucked up...makes no sense that her family all gotta do this Amish Suicide test...OMG!
C'mon Kidz lets go Suiciding...gonna be a blast...
Ooopsie...Lake's not deep enough...bummer...Nevermind...try again we will...
Golf Cart Submarine...Sending Frogmen down to the bottom of the Lake...
Some fucked up family holiday camp that is...
Dad : " Just goin' off for a swim...Just Kidding kidz ...'meant suiciding...Right Mum!
Yer So funny Dad!
Cops Arrive...
Yer gonna need Frogmen...Not just any Frogmen but the best ones ya got...coz this is a miracle...Got it!
To seek out a Giant Ungodly Fish gobbling up Hubbie & Gromz...
GOD : "Please Amish Lady! Stop sacrificing yer Family...I'm not worthy of yer Giant Fish Tale!"
https://www.aol.com/articles/unhinged-amish-mom-chilling-confession-2044...

And there is a you tube for every search ….no matter how ridiculous.
You just have to be bored enough to hunt them down….
I prefer gardening and fishing when there’s no surf….
My fruit trees are all in flower….
And the native bees are doing their thing….
And as the world descends into chaos….
There is peace in the souls of those who love God.

Sad thing is TBB, she can repent and get to heaven anyway. Probably because God is one hell of sicko. Just read his words in his two books.

Optimist wrote:

And there is a you tube for every search ….no matter how ridiculous.
You just have to be bored enough to hunt them down….
I prefer gardening and fishing when there’s no surf….
My fruit trees are all in flower….
And the native bees are doing their thing….
And as the world descends into chaos….
There is peace in the souls of those who love God.

Don't bother Optimist the hate in this forum is not worth it.. Australians are just awful now.

I hear you brother. Good on you for trying though..

Proverbs 9:8-12

Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you;
Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.
9 Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser;
Teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.

10 “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
11 For by me your days will be multiplied,
And years of life will be added to you.
12 If you are wise, you are wise for yourself,
And if you scoff, you will bear it alone.”

Matthew 13:15

For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed..

Matthew 14:15

Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

2 Timothy 3

But understand this: In the last days terrible times will come. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good, traitorous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God..

I think Australians are great, we are just flawed like everyone else.

(It is cute that you guys who believe that of the 20+ gospels that were written between about 100CE and 600CE, the few that survive and have been bastardised and translated beyond all recognition hold the secrets to solving the problem of the human condition. That that solution is at least as bad as the disease seems lost on you. and you don't even seem to get a giggle out of the fact that 'God' left his word to deteriorate on bits of goatskin in clay pots..

or that Paul had a dogbody called Timothy that was allowed to have a scribble for time to time.. haha.. 'Timothy'.. love it.. he became a Bishop you know..)

anyway, I'm sorry we disappoint you lot so much. Enjoy your day, all : )

;);)

“ It’s with a heavy heart that we, the Turning Point USA leadership team, write to notify you that early this afternoon, Charlie went to his eternal reward with Jesus Christ in Heaven… “

^ wow, some kind of ‘reward’ that is …farkn hell !
- good ol modus operandi of make a bunch of shit up to suit yaself

&

“ Jesus defeated death so you could live “
^ a tweet by charlie bird on saturday

(proven wrong much)
- must’ve just been a disciple of dick cheese ;);)

“ But understand this: In the last days terrible times will come. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good, traitorous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.. “

^ hahaha perfect description of the mentality of zionists and israeli settlers

https://youtube.com/shorts/7uL555xWQeE?si=jGuYhGeaL4-ML1F9

- then, & now ;)

- ooooops ;)

…” lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive…”

https://youtube.com/shorts/9pB14c9c6t8?si=VOu2yYM_P7A4hPuX

- “ unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good, traitorous “

…..hmmmmm :

;);)

Don’t be confused by the worlds trash……it’s everywhere…

“Peace I leave with you,
My peace I give to you….
….not as the world gives do I give to you…..
Let not your heart be troubled…
Neither be afraid…”..…. Jesus Christ….John 14:27 NKJV.

I'm off to have a squiz at an awesome little church I drove past the other day near Palmer/Birdwood/Tungkilla .. anyone know any SA filmakers looking for an awesome period rural setting with a church/school/hall less than an hour from the cbd..?
https://www.facebook.com/KiteEyePics/videos/st-pauls-lutheran-church-of-...

;);)

& yep …it’s everywhere hahaha :
(take out the trash)

;)

- all things …hidden in plain sight ;)

Optimist wrote:

Don’t be confused by the worlds trash……it’s everywhere…

“Peace I leave with you,
My peace I give to you….
….not as the world gives do I give to you…..
Let not your heart be troubled…
Neither be afraid…”..…. Jesus Christ….John 14:27 NKJV.

Psalm 137:9
“happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."
Please put this into context as the word of God.
Sounds like just a human command to rid the world of an entire people. Similar to Duch’s commands in the Killing Fields, although the hard impacty bit were trees in that case.

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/tv-series/forbidden-history

Google it dummy……keep reading though….you may actually learn something if you give up hunting for what’s suits your narrative and actually enjoy the history lesson.

…hahaha
(narrative n history lessin)

- & a history lesson ;);)

;);)

“…we’ve investigated ourselves and found nothing”

- history lemons ;)

& all things pedo ;)

- you may actually learn something if you give up hunting for what’s suits your narrative and actually enjoy the history lesson hahaha

…ooooops ;);)

“what suits your narrative”
That’s exactly what you do. Preach the nice stuff, ignore all the heinous shit god commanded. Remember god commanded this in your history lesson. Not a flawed human, the loving god you salivate over.

All things pedo on Four Corners tonight
The Exclusive Brethren cult.
I’ve asked this before but got crickets
Opti, how does your church deal with rape and pedophilia amongst its members?

…le$$on is more haha
*(& don’t forget to accuse the other side of that which you are guilty)

- just a farked up fantasy armageddon human sacrifice narrative to suit ;)
(imaginary blood ritual covenants shhh)

- ooops shhh

(‘christians’)

…farkn hell ;)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-15/exclusive-brethren-plymouth-alleg...

… ‘enjoy the history lesson’ hahaha

;);)

your so-called holy lands are a god-forsaken shithole
of your own manifesting, you have lost your souls.

your ideology and doctrine lies failed and broken -
no-one wants what you're selling.

churches are empty. no-one is coming.

but don't worry. we'll work tirelessly to save you fucking idiots -
it's what people who believe in humanity do.
like the believers before you did. properly.
it's what i've taught my children,
and they're up to to it..
and their children..

it will all be okay
one day.

so is all the cool shit on the 'tunes' thread.

humanity has created wonderful things.
make today a day of watching some brill doco.
be proud, and try your best to make some good calls.

Fight our weaknesses:
waste, tribalism, aggression, belligerence, pride..

embrace our strengths:
creativity, resourcefulness, empathy, being able to peel a mandarin..

love to you all, you beautiful, flawed monkeys.
no-one loves you, but you and those you show love to.

xx

Below is one of the simple stories, that hopes to capture the simple of mind. Relayed to try to stop cunts from cunting. Failed attempt from our sandy clay-pot-wisdom brothers. Turns out, some fuckheads who claim to be 'Christian' have decided that this parable only relates to their peculiar club of 'believers' 'chosen' 'God's children'.. so, so, so, so sad.. no different to any sect, cult, club or cabal.

Those visionaries who wrote stories to TRY desperately to kill the xenophobia in the monkey; to bring those of difference together..

..well, it seems the modern monkey, believer and non-believer alike, has decided that they failed. I'm sure they'd be stoked that they captured the imagination so big, a Gideons in every hotel draw.. but, yeh, they failed. @Opti proves that. The other cheek, forgiveness and understanding. Nup. Just not a thing the Good Word can wring from the monkeys any better than anything else..

Happy Sunday, fellow sea-monkeys!
.

The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant:

21 Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”

22 Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.[a]

23 “Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants.

24 As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold[b] was brought to him.

25 Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.

26 “At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’

27 The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.

28 “But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins.[c] He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.

29 “His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’

30 “But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt.

31 When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.

32 “Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I cancelled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33 Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’

34 In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.

35 “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”

Tolerant debate was healthy back in the Greek days and should be today.
They would gather regularly in public places and present their cases, their thoughts, their philosophies , their spiritual views.
They even had amphitheatres to do such…..then everyone would go home and ponder.
These days there just seems like anger when someone presents an alternate view to yours. This should not be the case.
Angry protests every weekend from all different sources on all different topics seem commonplace now….
Division globally is being seeded by dark forces but there is hope if you can see through the mist.
“For we don’t wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers, rulers of darkness in this world..spiritual wickedness in high places”
Ephesians 6:12.
As Christian’s, we keep our eyes on the prize.
We see the root cause of global unrest and rather than get frantic, we keep our eyes on Christ…..He said it will all happen and so it is.
Churches now filling again and extending their buildings.
Happy children playing together in the church grounds with parents optimistic of their future with God is so nice to watch.
Christian schools overflowing as parents distance themselves from the “state view”…..freedom of choice should be valued in Australia.
Through all the chaos and division, Gods has an end game.
We are living an apprenticeship…..how is yours going?
Go Greek today and have a healthy respectful debate with someone and value their ideas…….so many of us change our minds on things.
The old saying “ everyone is everyone’s student and everyone is everyone’s teacher” is a good one.

Not a bad post, @Opti. A little prideful, judgemental, condescending and 'my-flock' centric, but you'll get there, I have faith in you. And at least it wasn't hateful and vicious toward your fellow human. I like the condemnation of Trump the perverted Pilate (Ephesians 6:12). Glad you are referencing our public pre-monotheistic debate history of Socratic dialogue and evidence-based discourse; objective pragmatism and subjective philosophy, maybe you'll start to embrace the difference between hypothesis and theory, the Greeks revelled in it. Have a great Sunday, and may you show such grace as you receive.

Optimist wrote:

Tolerant debate was healthy back in the Greek days and should be today.
They would gather regularly in public places and present their cases, their thoughts, their philosophies , their spiritual views.
They even had amphitheatres to do such…..then everyone would go home and ponder.
These days there just seems like anger when someone presents an alternate view to yours. This should not be the case.
Angry protests every weekend from all different sources on all different topics seem commonplace now….
Division globally is being seeded by dark forces but there is hope if you can see through the mist.

We are living an apprenticeship…..how is yours going?
Go Greek today and have a healthy respectful debate with someone and value their ideas…….so many of us change our minds on things.
The old saying “ everyone is everyone’s student and everyone is everyone’s teacher” is a good one.

^ actually, taking the baloney out of the sandwich, you used some quality artisanal bread old chum!

You should be banned for altering someone else’s post.
About as low as it gets.
I don’t know how Stu lets you get away with that.
My posts are what I believe and they are a complete comment not and edited one.
Write your own stuff mate…..get a life ….hopefully a decent one…
I thought you may be have been a seeker and maybe an interesting guy…
But apparently not.

nothing salacious intended, @Opti, I left a gap and explained it. I'd have separated it into 2 separate quotes had I thought it'd upset you. here it is in its full again.

Optimist wrote:

Tolerant debate was healthy back in the Greek days and should be today.
They would gather regularly in public places and present their cases, their thoughts, their philosophies , their spiritual views.
They even had amphitheatres to do such…..then everyone would go home and ponder.
These days there just seems like anger when someone presents an alternate view to yours. This should not be the case.
Angry protests every weekend from all different sources on all different topics seem commonplace now….
Division globally is being seeded by dark forces but there is hope if you can see through the mist.
“For we don’t wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers, rulers of darkness in this world..spiritual wickedness in high places”
Ephesians 6:12.
As Christian’s, we keep our eyes on the prize.
We see the root cause of global unrest and rather than get frantic, we keep our eyes on Christ…..He said it will all happen and so it is.
Churches now filling again and extending their buildings.
Happy children playing together in the church grounds with parents optimistic of their future with God is so nice to watch.
Christian schools overflowing as parents distance themselves from the “state view”…..freedom of choice should be valued in Australia.
Through all the chaos and division, Gods has an end game.
We are living an apprenticeship…..how is yours going?
Go Greek today and have a healthy respectful debate with someone and value their ideas…….so many of us change our minds on things.
The old saying “ everyone is everyone’s student and everyone is everyone’s teacher” is a good one.

I forgive you for getting upset.
..'seeker'.. pfft.

It’s illegal to tamper with it, Stu knows it’s illegal, calling people the names you do is illegal too so please don’t.

illegal?
what names have I called you? ah, the thin skin and indignation of the righteous.
at least you're engaging with me. second time ever in this thread.
(I'm the only person who responds somewhat charitably to you on here,
and offers thoughtful responses to your posts.. and you ain't up for it).
I will call you no names and will always engage in a positive tone,
as long as you don't insult, belittle and write-off huge swathes of my fellow humans,
or rationalise the suffering of huge swathes of my fellow humans
just because you don't consider them your fellow chosen-ones
because your witchcraft (which you have every right to cherish)
gives you the right to. That is not my Christian heritage,
it is not something my Christian forebears would condone
and it is not something I will stand by and condone either.

And, along with @VJ and others I have given you plenty of positive feedback on your board posts and your self-build shack on $100k block posts. I have encouraged you to find useful and practical outlets for your inquiring mind. That's about the best I can offer a feller on a surf site. I continue to wish you well.

basesix wrote:

I'm off to have a squiz at an awesome little church I drove past the other day near Palmer/Birdwood/Tungkilla .. anyone know any SA filmakers looking for an awesome period rural setting with a church/school/hall less than an hour from the cbd..?
https://www.facebook.com/KiteEyePics/videos/st-pauls-lutheran-church-of-...

this joint was stunning.. all locked up, building a little crumbly, but well kept. stain glass intact, you can see a huge bronze bell still in the tower.. the church proper built in 1904, the vestibule added in the 1920s, the deco-ish community hall built in the 1940s. That little cottage at the back of the quadrangle is a C19th schoolhouse (whose walls are still bird-egg blue, with a picture of a young QEII above the fireplace). I assume some committee of legends must maintain it - even the bushes were topiarised nicely. Loo rolls in the dunny out the back. Should be used for school excursions at least. Seems the Lutherans still own it but it is non-operational.

Baloney alright! Deluded baloney, that you should be banned for not quoting it? But making a good point by doing so.

yeh.. I might have been a tad gaslit today. We all post edited things all the time right..? the only difference is I took a bit out the middle.. (which I flagged). Which is totally normal behaviour. Nothing was added or misrepresented. Should I have added a '...' and '...' at the beginning and end because it's a sermon by someone a little touchy and precious?

(feels like I'm trying to get my head around scrabble rules as a 10 year old and my dad just told me you can't add things at the beginning and end of a word at the same time to make a new word. Like if the word 'descend' was on the board and you added letters at the beginning and end to make 'condescending'.. not allowed).

..so Big Daddy Optitron told me off for that, said Stu was coming, and reprimanded me for calling him names. what a clown. fool me once, @Opti.. fool me... well.. you can't fool me again..