DUMP on Trump

Sensible centre is where it needs to be.
Imagine being the sensible centre in the USA right now? Despair would prevail, most probably, with the radical fires encroaching from both sides. (bit hotter from the right at the moment)

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

Hiccups wrote:

Kimmel isn't very funny, but this is a joke.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-18/jimmy-kimmel-live-cancelled-indef...

The US is stuffed completely.

That place is going down the gurgler

Dill & Hiccup, you cheered on censorship during covid but now you're both crying about it. You reap what you sow you basic chumps.

Burlz I'm gonna cop some flak because it's covid related, and my views have remained unchanged on that, and i hate diving back into that quagmire....but...you and i have always agreed to some extent on how Covid was handled at the time,
But, who was the president of the United States in the most critical period of Covid when the vaccines were pushed by mostly American super drug companies that already had a history huge criminal cases and record payouts gone against them. The president that didn't choose a different path, that both you and i thought was a better way?
The specifics of Covid and whether it was manufactured, or not., seems like we'll never know, even though there is some pretty damning evidence out there. Regardless, i always thought the initial response by world leaders and health organisations was as you'd expect in a once in a lifetime pandemic, scramble, try to do the best you can do, protect the vulnerable, limit the spread.
I always thought the Covid vaccine rollouts and mandates was an opportunitic move by big companies to gain huge financial benefits..especially... when they saw the opportunity to leverage SOME in government to profit from it either politically or monetarily. Not a government and world systematic take over. Just opportunistic billionaires looking to line their profits even more. I mean it's what they do right?
But that's not the point. That's done for now. The point is, who was in charge of the 'free world' at that critical moment in time when it all unfolded at it's absolute worst but did absolutely nothing to go after that contingent?? Your Great Man??
Anyway, apologies for going down the rabbit hole, not trying to spark the covid debate again, it's just my lame little opinion, but you can't deny that there was just one man in charge at the most critical period and although he might have said some things that sounded good to you in opposing it, his actions were very clearly different.

seeds wrote:

Sensible centre is where it needs to be.
Imagine being the sensible centre in the USA right now? Despair would prevail, most probably, with the radical fires encroaching from both sides. (bit hotter from the right at the moment)

I saw an article on the USA's sensible centre.. it was interesting.
The sensible centre is a guy called Clem from Gettysburg, PA, apparently - a graduate of Harrisburg Area Community College who now runs a small finance consultancy firm.
..they're thinking of having him stuffed.

If Clem was stuffed, he'd never be clemmed again.

Ooops. Off topic again.

Clem deserves a glass cabinet in the white house after it all goes back to boring old centrist politics. Legend!

mattlock wrote:

If Clem was stuffed, he'd never be clemmed again.

Hahaha
I looked that up.
(btw, funny how we both thought Clem should be stuffed)

I did't have to look it up.
It presented it self from the recesses of my drug addled mind.
Just alcohol, THC, nicotine and caffiene these days.
Haha.

Ooops . Off topic again.

I didn’t think it was a word but happy to have learnt that I’m not the only one
Oops I meant to have learnt something today

Alcohol is the worst

For anyone wondering what Kimmel actually said. Could this be any softer? Kimmel is a centreist liberal who won't even discuss Gaza on his "topical" program, yet he gets canned for this?

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@southernraw, I dunno about roadkill, but I sure wasn't cheering on censorship during covid, here or anywhere. Boreleigh's playbook of lying about others, strawman arguments and non-sequitirs is amusing, yet painfully Trumpian and moronic.

No waves this morning. Today the early is a lovely doomscroll.

Control the media, control the narrative. https://apnews.com/article/trump-kimmel-abc-suspension-media-pressure-ki... Skydance is run by its founder, David Ellison. He's the producer (along with Paramount Pictures) of Tom Cruise's Mission: Impossible movie franchise, among other properties. He is also the son of Oracle founder Larry Ellison, one of the richest people in the world and a vocal backer of President Trump.
https://www.npr.org/2025/09/12/nx-s1-5537152/cbs-news-ellison-steps-appe...

Ok quiz time, what is everyone's definition of fascism?

(I generally go along with Mussolini's 'combination of the state, the unions and the corporations'. That doesn't go as far as explaining the SA or the jack boots. Interested in what everyone else thinks it is.)

Be interesting to see CBS bias ratings in 6-12 months time under their new ownership .

velocityjohnno wrote:

Ok quiz time, what is everyone's definition of fascism?

(I generally go along with Mussolini's 'combination of the state, the unions and the corporations'. That doesn't go as far as explaining the SA or the jack boots. Interested in what everyone else thinks it is.)

Yep, corporations become the govt.
Fascism comes in many different colours but see attached.

Trump n co are ticking most of the boxes.

Edit: all boxes really.

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When Washington gets renamed Trump Town .

"Fascism is when one person—or a small group—takes all the power and doesn’t listen to anyone else. They make rules that only help themselves or people just like them. They don’t let others share ideas or help make decisions, and they might even punish people who speak up." https://brightlittles.com/blogs/news/how-to-talk-to-kids-about-fascism-i...

when a despot builds himself a $200 million ballroom with bunkers and tunnels in preparation for the the civil war and makes the taxpayers pay for research and reconnaissance trips to a friendly country's palaces for ideas..
"so, Charles, the pointy bits on top are finials..? I like those. And the cornice work in the corners and those beautiful big ceiling roses around the chandeliers.. do you have a guy.. ?"

Hiccups wrote:

@southernraw, I dunno about roadkill, but I sure wasn't cheering on censorship during covid, here or anywhere. Boreleigh's playbook of lying about others, strawman arguments and non-sequitirs is amusing, yet painfully Trumpian and moronic.

Fairpoint Hiccup, I apologise if you were against censorship during Covid. The Dill was 100% all for it and cheered it on.

Hmmmmmm some in the audience clearly weren’t buying it .

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burleigh wrote:

Hiccups wrote:

@southernraw, I dunno about roadkill, but I sure wasn't cheering on censorship during covid, here or anywhere. Boreleigh's playbook of lying about others, strawman arguments and non-sequitirs is amusing, yet painfully Trumpian and moronic.

Fairpoint Hiccup, I apologise if you were against censorship during Covid. The Dill was 100% all for it and cheered it on.

Lol. Flip flop Burl’s can’t remember what his opinion was a week ago let alone what happened years ago.

Burl’s, you really ain’t got much substance have you…everything comes back to Covid because you have about zero knowledge on everything else.

Just incoherent shouting like a teenager maga indoctrinated clown.

It is funny!

Will Trump change his clothes ?https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-will-recognise-palestinian-stat...

Roadkill wrote:

Burl’s, you really ain’t got much substance have you…everything comes back to Covid because you have about zero knowledge on everything else.

Just incoherent shouting like a teenager maga indoctrinated clown.

It is funny!

People showed who they REALLY WERE during Covid.