Content Creators and Surf Travel

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overthefalls started the topic in Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 6:26am

I’m interested in reading other surfers’ perspectives on content creators who expose lesser-known surf spots around the world. I’m not referring to the likes of YouTubers like Dan Harmon who mostly covers the well-known places. I’m referring to the likes of John Callahan of SurfEXPLORE and more recently a YouTuber whose channel is called Buffer Travels.

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overthefalls Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 6:28am

Bump

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basesix Tuesday, 2 Sep 2025 at 7:26am

@dandandan?

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overthefalls Wednesday, 3 Sep 2025 at 6:35am

I’ve been reading the comments in the Buffer Travels YouTube videos and the attitude he displays in his responses is strikingly similar to Callahan’s. Are these guys sociopaths?

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seeds Wednesday, 3 Sep 2025 at 6:58am

I’ve been watching those but haven’t read the comments. I’ll have to have a look.

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blackers Wednesday, 3 Sep 2025 at 7:04am

Are these guys sociopaths?Possibly, more likely just onanists seeking attention.

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benskii Wednesday, 3 Sep 2025 at 7:08am

The worst part of surfing. Neo colonialism. They'll dress it up to justify their profit but they're just extracting local resources without paying for them to exploit a foreign market for their own gain.

No doubt they'll say that tourism is a great opportunity for these low income parts of the world but as far as I know, very few surf operations in places like Indo etc are ever locally owned. Foreign surfers pay thousands to foreigners and the profit doesn't stay there beyond the locals wages. Locals don't truly benefit because their land gets walled up and they're excluded.

These guys are the first brick in that neo colonial wall.

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Lachlan Mckenzie Wednesday, 3 Sep 2025 at 7:09am

It seems to take next level unawareness not to realise the impact between exposure and crowds. This bloke is a classic, constantly reiterating that increased crowds are because of every other factor, many of which are impacting crowds, but without realising his own impact by making pointless videos. I think it has to do with the loss of regulators at many breaks. The old fellas who would control the lineup and create hierarchy. https://m.

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overthefalls Wednesday, 3 Sep 2025 at 7:35am
blackers wrote:

Are these guys sociopaths?Possibly, more likely just onanists seeking attention.

Hahaha! Onanist! I had to look that up!

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mikehunt207 Wednesday, 3 Sep 2025 at 9:48am

A few weeks ago unlikely conditions for mid winter allowed for a day at what once was a secret spot but either way a lesser known very good beach break. There were more people there than I've seen before but still fairly small crowd.
Couple of local young "semi pro" blokes set-up on the bestbank . Camera set up (we surfed there for years without even talking about it much less photos or filming) .
A couple of weeks later another day with almost same conditions occurs
150 people ..... well done jerome and Benny
Way to shit in your own bed, oneday soon when you dont become pro surfers and grow up you will be the old guys tryingto surf arpund work pissed off it's so crowded everywhere , Instagram hero's...

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zenagain Wednesday, 3 Sep 2025 at 12:56pm

I don't mind people exploring and finding new places etc., that's human nature. But these people who think they are singlehandedly bringing wealth, prosperity, healthcare and improved infrastructure to these poor, pathetic villagers are deluding themselves. They contribute absolutely NOTHING to the betterment of these people. Even worse when they use it as some sort of defence or justification to support their thirst for clicks and likes.

Not surf related but there's a cockhead here who thinks he's the saviour of Japan by blowing up all the little ski hills and is solely responsible for saving the little villages from de-population. Fucking idiot is completely tone deaf. I swear, I hope I don't meet the twat. I don't know how I'd react tbh.

Ps- what Benskii said above.

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juegasiempre Wednesday, 3 Sep 2025 at 1:18pm

I think we're past saturation honestly and as for surf travel benefitting the locales, I can't think of any places (maybe one?) and I've been in my share of surf ghettos. I think Nathan Florence is doing it right FWIW. All the rest suck but what's an up and comer to do? There's no real pathway to a profession other than selling out surfing to try and make a buck.

I've had semi pros filming around where I live and don't think much of it. Crowds are worse than ever, whatever the reasons. I'll only seek out point surf when I think it won't be crowded . It's not even that I can't get waves, it's just the vibe goes to shit. What can you do?

I read something that resonated with me about ex AFL footy players copping it when they go back to 'the mass of men' and made me think about many, MANY surfers of this demographic. Including myself on occasion although I don't take it out on others, just myself.

“Unfortunately that 35 to 45 age group is still ultra-competitive … [and] they haven’t quite accepted that they’re not as good as they were in their 20s,” he said.

“Until you accept that it’s not fun, because you’re just really angry because you want to do better but your body simply will not let you do that.”

Surfing should be fun. Always.