Australia - you're standing in it
…most ppl don’t require foreign influence to march in protest against occupation, apartheid, starvation and mass slaughter of civilians
- it’s called having a conscience and a moral compass
…foreign interference ;)
https://youtube.com/shorts/xOwY-J3OlCc?si=GArxAychLRzEkFQK
- 2 sides of the same coin ;);)
?si=mNCxGE9pLw-ExxK3 Yep, 100%
All I'm saying is that it's naive to think that only one side of the argument is targeted when all Iran are trying to do is disrupt the country, need two sides to stir up shit so why not give both sides a helping hand.
Same goes for Israel and their lobbying efforts they've been using here for years, maybe not trying to disrupt but definitely trying to get their agenda front and centre
.......Balance ;)
Fliplid….did you know there was a large portrait of the Ayatollah at the front of the harbour bridge protest…..so yeh……
I wonder what the rest at the rear would think if they knew that.
Optimist wrote:Fliplid….did you know there was a large portrait of the Ayatollah at the front of the harbour bridge protest…..so yeh……
I wonder what the rest at the rear would think if they knew that.
My wife was at the front of the protest. She reported nothing of the kind.
wait.. have you ever seen your missus and the ayatollah in the same room at the same time.?
….hahaha
& ol flopti ;)
- relying on hearsay and nothing from direct experience (keep kissing that portrait of bibi the butcher)
… gonna need divine intervention to release your head being held hostage up ya rear ;);)
Optimist wrote:Fliplid….did you know there was a large portrait of the Ayatollah at the front of the harbour bridge protest…..so yeh……
I wonder what the rest at the rear would think if they knew that.
Thankfully the remaining estimated 89999 protestors were peaceful and behaved themselves.
basesix wrote:wait.. have you ever seen your missus and the ayatollah in the same room at the same time.?
Haha, classic B6.
And big kudos to your wife Stu.
Peace.
Optimist I did a quick google and yeah, one guy held up a 'small' poster, so what? one guy in a crowd of thousands.
One thing though, he seems to have picked a great spot in the crowd for maximum media exposure, well played...which ever side was behind it
True enough they did behave but the big photo was there near the front and it’s easy to see if you try……which made it weird.
Anyway , it’s a free country you can display whoever you want….just don’t try it in Iran or Gaza.
Meanwhile a sovereign citizen heavily armed nut is on the run in bush land after killing some innocent police.
WTF is happening to Australia.
We are better than this, well always thought that.
andy-mac wrote:Meanwhile a sovereign citizen heavily armed nut is on the run in bush land after killing some innocent police.
WTF is happening to Australia.
We are better than this, well always thought that.
And this is the issue, not some false flag story about a poster of Khamenei at a rally of people protesting for peace.
Optimist wrote:True enough they did behave but the big photo was there near the front and it’s easy to see if you try……which made it weird.
Anyway , it’s a free country you can display whoever you want….just don’t try it in Iran or Gaza.
So from casting aspersions across the entire crowd, that they were somehow complicit in the regime, you've backtracked it to "it's easy to see if you tried".
Well, I'll take it further and say it wasn't easy to see if you tried.
Perhaps it's easy to see if, at a later date, you saw a photo of it in a news outlet. But at the time, in a crowd numbering tens of thousands..?
Nup.
Optimist wrote:Fliplid….did you know there was a large portrait of the Ayatollah at the front of the harbour bridge protest…..so yeh……
I wonder what the rest at the rear would think if they knew that.
Let's see if you have the same energy after the "March for Australia" rally. You know, the one being organised by white supremacists and actual neo-Nazis.
Hiccups wrote:Optimist wrote:Fliplid….did you know there was a large portrait of the Ayatollah at the front of the harbour bridge protest…..so yeh……
I wonder what the rest at the rear would think if they knew that.Let's see if you have the same energy after the "March for Australia" rally. You know, the one being organised by white supremacists and actual neo-Nazis.
If they carry portraits of Hitler, I'd expect that Optimist would.
What a grifter
& thine flopti exclaimed :
“… the big photo was there near the front and it’s easy to see if you try……which made it weird.”
(even though he wasn’t actually there - yet seems to know ummm stuff …including what is apparently ‘weird’)
I reckon the true ‘weird’ thing is flopti’s compulsive lying ;)
….the unbridled capability to tell stories and invent accusations of imagined complicity about decent mums n dads and innocent civilians protesting the massacre of innocent civilians shows the pure level of internal hatred flopti possesses.
With his undying support of butcher bibi and the pedo king, it’s still no wonder thine plank in thy eye is bigger than a balsa mal ;)
But let’s reflect on flopti’s musings…
- it’s obvious he is one of those really annoying fish that shit in the tank
& that zionist israeli occupiers are just pathetic slimy little ‘fighting’ fish that bully others ;);)
Introducing …sermon time (nothing at all ‘weird’ but easy if you try ay)
(& beware of the ‘fervent heat’ …..oh wait …..that’s just flopti’s brain melting haha)
…more tall stories from z archives of the floptiverse of fabricated falsehood :
‘God is responsible for holding all atoms and molecules together so He is in everything. Original translations say "by Him all things consist"and the Greek word ( the language of the day back then ) used for consist is the same as in a cake mix holding everything together. If you've studied Physics, the nucleus of an atom is an odd thing, protons and neutrons together Positive and neutral and electrons whizzing around the outside. But the like charged particles which should repel each other stick together and the negative electrons don't crash into the protons. Just a nice little machine that makes no sense to us but we rave on like we have figured everything out. So God really is in everything and everything is in God. Forget nuclear bombs, if God decided NOT to hold everything together anymore the result would be a massive nuclear meltdown of everything with fervent heat. Fortunately He likes His fish tank and loves His fish...Our air is even full of water and has weight that keeps us grounded..There are also fighting fish that bully the others and those really annoying ones that continuously shit in their tank and pull out all the plants....No not really, we are much more important than fish to him, so important that He sent His only son to try and straighten us out and then substitute himself for our sin..He paid the price..the creator dies for the created and pays the bill...So every time you see a perfect lined up wall of water, all those atoms and molecules holding hands, give thanks to the one who makes it all happen..If your not interested in reading the bible, just read Colossians chapter 1. take a few minutes and answer a lot of questions. A great little book and just a couple of chapters....and to finish....
Matt 5:45..KJV
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.....Jesus’
- nothing weird now hahahaha
…carry on ;)
Island Bay wrote:Hiccups wrote:Optimist wrote:Fliplid….did you know there was a large portrait of the Ayatollah at the front of the harbour bridge protest…..so yeh……
I wonder what the rest at the rear would think if they knew that.Let's see if you have the same energy after the "March for Australia" rally. You know, the one being organised by white supremacists and actual neo-Nazis.
If they carry portraits of Hitler, I'd expect that Optimist would.
One picture held up amongst hundreds of thousands of people is not the same thing as a protest being organised by fascists, so let's try again. Does Flopti currently have the same energy regarding the so called "March for Australia", seeing as we all know it's being organised by white supremicsts and neo-Nazis?
I think that's the question I answered above - hypothetically, of course, as I can't see the future nor speak for Optimist.
And further, if I were to find myself in a protest rally with someone sporting a Hitler/Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot/pick your poison portrait, I'd bloody well give them both barrels. And maybe those "peaceful" people should have done the same with the Ayatollah lover.
Island Bay wrote:I think that's the question I answered above - hypothetically, of course, as I can't see the future nor speak for Optimist.
And further, if I were to find myself in a protest rally and someone was sporting a Hitler/Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot/pick your poison portrait, I'd bloody well give them both barrels. And maybe those "peaceful" people should have done the same with the Ayatollah lover.
No need for ironic quote marks.
Again, my wife was there exercising her democratic rights. Apparently, whenever a voice tried to chant a slogan, from the river to the sea or the like, the call always came back with no reply. And there were people remonstrating with the chantees. Peaceful people even.
Optimist might not like the appearance of said sign but I'll vouch to an enthusiastic degree that he'd stay silent in here. Only going on form, of course, but he's got an awfully long history of manipulation, self-censorship, and bad faith commentary - the projection of neutrality when everything he writes carries an angle.
Yeh nothing weird about a guy carrying a metre high photo of the ayatollah in the bridge march.
And the crew in the pic were up in the front of the march too with the picture facing the crowd behind.
Would have put me off a bit but I realise that many Australians have lost their minds and with all good intentions are being suckered.
The facts remain the same…..the people of Gaza started a war.
The people of Gaza lost the war and haven’t surrendered yet.
The people of Gaza have not returned the hostages
To stop the war you
1) surrender
2) return the hostages and the dead bodies
including the dead raped bodies of the young women from the music festival…
Gee I wonder why they don’t want to do that…..
3) the war stops…
4) elect a new government
Then have something to say about why Gazans chopped people up with machetes in their homes,…..shot hundreds at a music festival
burnt little babies alive in their cots and dragged young women and mothers away
Raping them in public in Gaza while expectant people lined the streets throwing stones and spitting on their dead bodies while they were paraded around town in the back of utes….
War is hell…..but if you start one don’t whine if it dosent go your way….
And if you allow the Jihad to grow……it will eventually take you too.
Truly glad to hear that, Stu. And they were not "ironic quote marks", simply quotation marks.
As for your other comments on Opti, I think the vast majority of commenters opposed to his view are just as guilty. And I would hate for SN to become an echo chamber.
@optimist , do you believe that the “
people of Gaza “ are in fact Hamas ?
Haha
- try quell your rage flopti ;)
The ‘war’ never started on Oct 7, that’s just a convenient cause to validate retribution.
- what Hamas did was horrific. No one supports them here.
…the ‘jihad’ is your interpretation of end of days doctrine ;)
- the ‘prophecy’ requires the blood covenant of the ‘final battle’ blah blah to usher in the second coming of the messiah blah blah fuckn blah
Get rid of bibi too
Usher in a new government not hell bent on massacring kids & women.
It’s not eye for an eye unless you are a savage ;)
…you keep forgetting the jebus ‘peace’ & ‘forgiveness and compassion’ bit
Continued occupation is illegal.
More settlements in the West Bank break international law.
Australia has no need to be involved in anything nor be coerced into being complicit in war crimes…
What bibi is doing now and continues to do is abhorrent
…supporting that is no different to being a jihadist ;)
- but you’re free to keep shitting in ya tank flopti ;);)
From the hatred they are taught in their school classrooms to the missile launchers in their homes and tunnels under , they are Hamas through and through.
The toxic culture has bred for 20 years and will be hard to stop now.
Like everywhere there are good people but like everywhere you see the result when the good people do nothing…..and allow evil to prosper.
…get a grip flopti
Eye for an eye makes the world blind ;);)
“… the hatred they are taught in their school classrooms”
- mutual hate doesn’t work, nor selective outrage.
Grow a fuckn spine u pathetic ‘christian’ charlatan
;)
?si=InP7YypzbWI0VGdw Optimist wrote:From the hatred they are taught in their school classrooms to the missile launchers in their homes and tunnels under , they are Hamas through and through.
The toxic culture has bred for 20 years and will be hard to stop now.
Like everywhere there are good people but like everywhere you see the result when the good people do nothing…..and allow evil to prosper.
And what are the people of Israel taught ?
^ yep
& this…
“ Like everywhere there are good people but like everywhere you see the result when the good people do nothing…..and allow evil to prosper. “
- hence the bridge protest ;)
Optimist last time this type of commentary started on these forums it went down the Indo Dreaming Rabbit Hole and didn't end well. Better off leaving this stuff off our forums and let the main stream media bring to our attention. Sharri Markson does some good stuff that will get your juices flowing!!
garyg1412 wrote:Optimist last time this type of commentary started on these forums it went down the Indo Dreaming Rabbit Hole and didn't end well. Better off leaving this stuff off our forums and let the main stream media bring to our attention. Sharri Markson does some good stuff that will get your juices flowing!!
Spot on.
…back to straya ;)
?si=8ZUiAp2BrcwfKVg9 Optimist, I was at the Sydney march for Gaza, didn't see anyone carrying any hamas or Ayatollah banners. Not saying they weren't there but the vast, vast, vast majority were just normal Aussies there to condemn the barbarism and cruelty of Israel's assault on the Palestinian people.
Understand that the acts of terrorists (Hamas) is of course going to be punished. Targets will be eliminated, and, while unacceptable, wouldn't be the first time some civilians are going to be collateral. However it has given Netanyahu license to starve people, bomb hospitals, and kill journalists on a scale we haven't seen for a long time, certainly not in my lifetime. There are people in his party who openly support ethnic cleansing. How can you support this?!
Your fundamentalist religious views have completely blinded you to this cruelty and that's a pity, mainly for the those that are facing the most widespread unimaginable suffering we've seen in recent history. Future generations will look back on this with horror and you will be on the wrong side of it mate.
.
Optimist wrote:Yeh nothing weird about a guy carrying a metre high photo of the ayatollah in the bridge march.
And the crew in the pic were up in the front of the march too with the picture facing the crowd behind.
Would have put me off a bit but I realise that many Australians have lost their minds and with all good intentions are being suckered.
The facts remain the same…..the people of Gaza started a war.
The people of Gaza lost the war and haven’t surrendered yet.
The people of Gaza have not returned the hostages
To stop the war you
1) surrender
2) return the hostages and the dead bodies
including the dead raped bodies of the young women from the music festival…
Gee I wonder why they don’t want to do that…..
3) the war stops…
4) elect a new government
Then have something to say about why Gazans chopped people up with machetes in their homes,…..shot hundreds at a music festival
burnt little babies alive in their cots and dragged young women and mothers away
Raping them in public in Gaza while expectant people lined the streets throwing stones and spitting on their dead bodies while they were paraded around town in the back of utes….
War is hell…..but if you start one don’t whine if it dosent go your way….
And if you allow the Jihad to grow……it will eventually take you too.
Your assertions have mostly been proven to be false, including by Israeli sources.
Hint there were no beheaded babies for a start.
And don't mention the Hannibal directive,
Hamas did some abhorrent stuff, but it no way justifies what we are witnessing in Gaza now.
But hey don't let your bigotry cloud your judgement.
When Rome conquered Israel around 70 AD they changed the country’s name from Israel to Palestine.
In modern times Israel regained its land of Palestine but gave up over half to create the Palestinian Arab state of Jordan.
More was given up as well under the UN but taken back again due to the Jihadi wars and element.
Israel is about 500 kilometres from north to south and about 100 kilometres wide.
Most of it is desert.
The Muslim world has all the Middle East including over half of Palestine.
So, which part of what’s left of a tiny nation should they give up for another Palestinian state…..
And how many more times should they give up land to people that hate them.
Albo and Penny seem to think there’s more to give.
As do many other misinformed people.
Gaza could be a paradise if they would behave and be good neighbours.
Combined with Jordan part of a great and prosperous Palestinian state.
Why can’t you understand that.
….hahaha
“… I realise that many Australians have lost their minds and with all good intentions are being suckered. “
^ no flopti …just you and your insane fundamentalist brethren.
(& you can’t understand that)
…carry on ;)
Wow, @opti is having some day out.
^ haha yep ;);)
“… other misinformed people. “
;)
SIGNS OF A COMPULSIVE LIAR
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They lie even when they are not under any form of pressure. Someone trying to hide an affair by lying about it isn’t necessarily a pathological liar since they are lying for a reason (to hide it). However, a college dropout who is always claiming to have a Ph.D. will qualify as one.
Their lies are mainly to make them look like good people or heroes. This is done mostly to gain acceptance, admiration, or sympathy.
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They might become delusional and begin to believe their lies because oftentimes, they tell stories that fall between conscious lying and delusional tales.
A pathological liar tells lies and stories that fall somewhere between conscious lying and delusion. They sometimes believe their lies.
^ geez, that psychotic "I hoped you pushed me back" grin at the end speaks volumes.
..any Australian news?
^ yep
- murder mindset
(& maybe no news is good news)
…but some gifts from the aussie motherland got the sentiment covered
;)
?si=D7TAcdMo_-84_url …all systems are a go!
- war is good for economic $tability ;)
“ Land Forces 2026 is a huge opportunity for Western Australian businesses to showcase their world-class expertise, connect with global defence leaders and break into international supply chains. It's about creating new jobs, attracting investment and showing that WA's defence industry can strengthen the nation's sovereign capability. “
…yayyyyyy ;)
https://www.miragenews.com/wa-to-host-australias-largest-land-defence-15...
Supafreak wrote:With the largest sovereign wealth fund in the world, it’s good to see a country that looks after its own people first and has a conscience in its international political decisions. Wake the fuck up Australia. https://www.instagram.com/p/DN1Ty9P5F4p/?igsh=MWN3MDNjemllb2Rmag==
Wake the fuck up indeed.
Al Jazeera were onto this over two weeks ago, as were the Canberra Times and SBS.
The Australian mentioned it yesterday, focusing on Caterpillar but only mentioning the banks in the third last paragraph.
The Guardian had a headline of "Norway MPs reject call to stop wealth fund investing in Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories" (i.e Norway were not divesting) on the 5th June but nothing since as far as I can find.
I can't find anything from our national broadcaster and I mean zip.
Nothing from the SMH or The Age.
What the fuck?
tearymasseuse wrote:garyg1412 wrote:Optimist last time this type of commentary started on these forums it went down the Indo Dreaming Rabbit Hole and didn't end well. Better off leaving this stuff off our forums and let the main stream media bring to our attention. Sharri Markson does some good stuff that will get your juices flowing!!
Spot on.
…back to straya ;)
?si=8ZUiAp2BrcwfKVg9
Irony ^^^^
“Better off leaving this stuff off our forums and let the main stream media bring to our attention.”
End of story.
Roadkill, you once couldn’t distinguish between Gazans and Hamas with silly questions like Do they know right from wrong?
You’ve gone completely silent since the genocidal death and destruction.
What’s your thoughts now?
Remember the last election in Gaza was in 2006 where Hamas won 44% of the vote. Fatah lost with 42%
Gazan’s as a whole didn’t want Hamas.
And I bet a lot afterwards regretted their vote.
seeds wrote:Roadkill, you once couldn’t distinguish between Gazans and Hamas with silly questions like Do they know right from wrong?
You’ve gone completely silent since the genocidal death and destruction.
What’s your thoughts now?
Remember the last election in Gaza was in 2006 where Hamas won 44% of the vote. Fatah lost with 42%
Gazan’s as a whole didn’t want Hamas.
And I bet a lot afterwards regretted their vote.
Even though you misquoted me and added your own bias to what you think I said, I will answer you.
Israeli has overstepped their ground. Israeli is in no position to now get sympathy or support. Now just killing for no real reason.
It wasn’t verbatim but it’s correct.
Thanks for your current opinion, which I respect.
I would add…does the far right wing Israeli coalition government know right from wrong?
Much Godliness going on?
The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.