The United States(!) of A
One mans trash is another mans treasure.
It's a bit rich to put a billionaire far right extremist media mogul in charge of deciding what is waste and what is not. He can cut off funding for anything or anyone who goes against his far right views or threatens to expose his own corruption.
Everything they are doing is straight from Hitlers dictators handbook. Seig Heil.
adam12 wrote:@Burls, @Sypiie,
When Albo gives Clive Palmer the keys to the tax office, and every other government department, and he starts shutting them down, and a bunch of his blokes start going through your financials, and stopping centerlink payments, and sacking essential public servants and cancelling the PBS and sacking all the ASIO agents and cancelling federal education spending and grants to farmers and small businesses and appoints Kyle Sandilands to Defence Chief, and ...I could go on,
can't wait for your posts on that....
and Clive went to the upcoming election victory if Albo won and got up after Albo's speech and gave one of his own that ended with a Seig Heil, and another one in case you missed it, and everyone said "No, you're confused, Clive's actually got a heart", but the only one who didn't say it wasn't a fascist salute was Clive, and Clive was addicted to ketamine, and was unqualified, unvetted, unelected, unauthorised and Albo had no power to let him do it...You think this is a culture war?
A reality show?
Fkn life and death boys.
For millions, us here too.
I'll say it again, you are watching a 249 year old democracy, the world's "greatest" become a fascist basket case in record time, not just watching but cheering.
You will rue the day, one day.
Just my opinion.
Our grubs in charge deserve the same treatment. Covid showed how corrupt goverments on every level are.
I hope Clive does do that. I really fucking hope he does.
Hopefully Elon helps with funding for our upcoming election.
Waiting in the wings for the starters gun
https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/clive-palmer-moves-to-trademar...
old-dog wrote:One mans trash is another mans treasure.
It's a bit rich to put a billionaire far right extremist media mogul in charge of deciding what is waste and what is not. He can cut off funding for anything or anyone who goes against his far right views or threatens to expose his own corruption.
Everything they are doing is straight from Hitlers dictators handbook. Seig Heil.
Just like hiccup, everything you have stood for has been completely wrong. Whatever old-dog believes the opposite will happen.
@burls, now be a good little useful idiot and practice your goose step.
The krauts loved Adolf almost as much as you love Donald.
Like I said one mans trash is another mans treasure.
I can see the adds now with Clive & Gina promoting Make Australia Healthy Again , Poorlean could be in the fish shop cooking them up some dim sims .
Burls was Clives number 1 fan boy before the last election. Clueless.
After retaining the Senate, with the help of Crypto money,
The Senate Republicans are working on a bill that would transfer billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars, into the hands of a few big Crypto holders to return that favour .
Blatant corruption 101
basesix wrote:nope.
my point is, jeff's money fixing left thousands of people deinstitutionalised and without support, decades of ramifications. and the money's not there anyway. always back people - you'll win every time.
Ahhh....good old Jeff.
While he was busy defunding the health system my father became seriously ill. He was in and out of hospital over a few months but his health continued to decline. He was admitted to Monash in Clayton and as I worked only a few minutes up the road I would visit every lunch time and after work to make sure he was ok. The ward was barely staffed and the few who were there were literally run off their feet. I made sure he would eat and was clean etc, meanwhile his health continued to decline.
After a fortnight I was called in to a meeting with the Social Worker, who informed me that they did not have the resources to care for him any longer and I had five days to find him alternative accommodation. I pointed out he was desperately ill, and his time was limited. She agreed, but still I had to get him out within five days.
I went to a few nursing homes but was not impressed with their facilities and was becoming quite concerned about finding suitable accommodation and care.
On the third day of my desperate search, he passed away peacefully at Monash.
fucken hell @Salty, your old man's reward as an Australian citizen. Sorry, mate. Can only imagine the indignities and stresses and hardships that will be collateral to the already hurting US with the bling-bruz in the white house..
old-dog wrote:Burls was Clives number 1 fan boy before the last election. Clueless.
Well at least Trump knows to buy your way into power.
old-dog wrote:@burls, now be a good little useful idiot and practice your goose step.
The krauts loved Adolf almost as much as you love Donald.
Like I said one mans trash is another mans treasure.
You’re 0/10 you old boomer. The new generation is taking over. Your views are so far outdated it’s sad.
Exxotixjeff wrote:After retaining the Senate, with the help of Crypto money,
The Senate Republicans are working on a bill that would transfer billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars, into the hands of a few big Crypto holders to return that favour .
Blatant corruption 101
Hope you’re buying crypto then
burleigh wrote:old-dog wrote:@burls, now be a good little useful idiot and practice your goose step.
The krauts loved Adolf almost as much as you love Donald.
Like I said one mans trash is another mans treasure.You’re 0/10 you old boomer. The new generation is taking over. Your views are so far outdated it’s sad.
Yeah
Trump and Clive are obvious examples of the new generation taking over,
Another great MAGA confusion from @Berlin
Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:old-dog wrote:@burls, now be a good little useful idiot and practice your goose step.
The krauts loved Adolf almost as much as you love Donald.
Like I said one mans trash is another mans treasure.You’re 0/10 you old boomer. The new generation is taking over. Your views are so far outdated it’s sad.
Yeah
Trump and Clive are obvious examples of the new generation taking over,
Another great MAGA confusion from @Berlin
Of course Trump is. Clive unfortunately doesn’t stand a chance with all the softtards in Aus. But it will change.
hah! @jef. that's a rather effective burn.
extra special pekoe blend for you tonight !
Exxotixjeff wrote:After retaining the Senate, with the help of Crypto money,
The Senate Republicans are working on a bill that would transfer billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars, into the hands of a few big Crypto holders to return that favour .
Blatant corruption 101
Lmao…the Orange grifter wants to launch ETFs targeting BTC. So he and the other grifters will be buying BTC and the grifter in chief will then direct the Fed reserve to hold BTC in a strategic reserve…thus buying BTC to drive the price up and allowing the Trump grifters holding BTC to be enriched. Trump wins directly and indirectly.
Nothing to see here.
Someone throw the shouty clown a life ring…getting more out of his depth daily…treading water is becoming harder.
Roadkill wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:After retaining the Senate, with the help of Crypto money,
The Senate Republicans are working on a bill that would transfer billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars, into the hands of a few big Crypto holders to return that favour .
Blatant corruption 101Lmao…the Orange grifter wants to launch ETFs targeting BTC. So he and the other grifters will be buying BTC and the grifter in chief will then direct the Fed reserve to hold BTC in a strategic reserve…thus buying BTC to drive the price up and allowing the Trump grifters holding BTC to be enriched. Trump wins directly and indirectly.
Nothing to see here.
I’m still shocked trump hasn’t got you on his team Dill. You seem to know more than all of them.
burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:old-dog wrote:@burls, now be a good little useful idiot and practice your goose step.
The krauts loved Adolf almost as much as you love Donald.
Like I said one mans trash is another mans treasure.You’re 0/10 you old boomer. The new generation is taking over. Your views are so far outdated it’s sad.
Yeah
Trump and Clive are obvious examples of the new generation taking over,
Another great MAGA confusion from @BerlinOf course Trump is. Clive unfortunately doesn’t stand a chance with all the softtards in Aus. But it will change.
It’s your definition of Trump being the new generation that is the most obvious indication,
That you’re welded on to the Fox News
Comedic /Tradgedy .
A Salty Dog wrote:basesix wrote:nope.
my point is, jeff's money fixing left thousands of people deinstitutionalised and without support, decades of ramifications. and the money's not there anyway. always back people - you'll win every time.Ahhh....good old Jeff.
While he was busy defunding the health system my father became seriously ill. He was in and out of hospital over a few months but his health continued to decline. He was admitted to Monash in Clayton and as I worked only a few minutes up the road I would visit every lunch time and after work to make sure he was ok. The ward was barely staffed and the few who were there were literally run off their feet. I made sure he would eat and was clean etc, meanwhile his health continued to decline.
After a fortnight I was called in to a meeting with the Social Worker, who informed me that they did not have the resources to care for him any longer and I had five days to find him alternative accommodation. I pointed out he was desperately ill, and his time was limited. She agreed, but still I had to get him out within five days.
I went to a few nursing homes but was not impressed with their facilities and was becoming quite concerned about finding suitable accommodation and care.
On the third day of my desperate search, he passed away peacefully at Monash.
That’s a sad story
Sorry for your loss,
I should have read your post before posting other comments.
burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:After retaining the Senate, with the help of Crypto money,
The Senate Republicans are working on a bill that would transfer billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars, into the hands of a few big Crypto holders to return that favour .
Blatant corruption 101Hope you’re buying crypto then
100%. Don’t whinge, buy.
Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:sypkan wrote:"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."
just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...
weird
So fucking weird.
Very successful businessmen, are usually very successful, because they are ruthless selfish and cunning,
Why would they suddenly become community minded , champions of the people.
That is naive propaganda at best.
And why do you think the judges and crowds protesting in cities are beneficiaries of the corruption.
And only a gimp would think an
unqualified, unelected, billionaire with no security clearance, should be allowed to illegally access everyone’s private , confidential and classified data, at the whim of a wannabe dictator.
Disneyland constitutional law from indignant guesses.He is finding wasted money EVERYWHERE. Why is it a bad thing?
Oh yeah gotta believe the community minded , billionaire Nazi ,
Ho ho hoThey are literally posting the proof. You’re as cooked as hiccup. Pretty much everything you and him stand for has failed and it’s fucking hilarious
Who’s they ?
So you think Musk would contribute
$250 million to Trumps campaign, so he could help a bit with the economy
And expect nothing back on
this investment, ?
You’ve always been the one eyed fan boy .
Jeffy Bhoy/Ghurl/Fing/Whatever
THEY are playing your song!
A live version!
burleigh wrote:adam12 wrote:@Burls, @Sypiie,
When Albo gives Clive Palmer the keys to the tax office, and every other government department, and he starts shutting them down, and a bunch of his blokes start going through your financials, and stopping centerlink payments, and sacking essential public servants and cancelling the PBS and sacking all the ASIO agents and cancelling federal education spending and grants to farmers and small businesses and appoints Kyle Sandilands to Defence Chief, and ...I could go on,
can't wait for your posts on that....
and Clive went to the upcoming election victory if Albo won and got up after Albo's speech and gave one of his own that ended with a Seig Heil, and another one in case you missed it, and everyone said "No, you're confused, Clive's actually got a heart", but the only one who didn't say it wasn't a fascist salute was Clive, and Clive was addicted to ketamine, and was unqualified, unvetted, unelected, unauthorised and Albo had no power to let him do it...You think this is a culture war?
A reality show?
Fkn life and death boys.
For millions, us here too.
I'll say it again, you are watching a 249 year old democracy, the world's "greatest" become a fascist basket case in record time, not just watching but cheering.
You will rue the day, one day.
Just my opinion.Our grubs in charge deserve the same treatment. Covid showed how corrupt goverments on every level are.
I hope Clive does do that. I really fucking hope he does.
Hopefully Elon helps with funding for our upcoming election.
But Donald was in charge of the free world all through Covid wasn't he?
I actually don't think it's that jeff kennett was good
it's more that dan andrews is sooooo bad...
vic, more broke than ever
infrastructure lacking
place looks generally run down, dirty
waiting lists, roads, clogged, division
if we need a model for if the ' big australia' dream is a good thing...
vic is it
and the verdict is...
no way, get fucked, fuck off!
(maybe viccos still love it... rest of australia says... you can have it...)
clives a wanker
dutton's being pegged as oz's trump fix...
dutto's no trump
oz problems are different
though you wouldn't know it... the way anti-trumpers carry on...
which might just get dutton over the line...
sadly
quadzilla wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:sypkan wrote:"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."
just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...
weird
So fucking weird.
Very successful businessmen, are usually very successful, because they are ruthless selfish and cunning,
Why would they suddenly become community minded , champions of the people.
That is naive propaganda at best.
And why do you think the judges and crowds protesting in cities are beneficiaries of the corruption.
And only a gimp would think an
unqualified, unelected, billionaire with no security clearance, should be allowed to illegally access everyone’s private , confidential and classified data, at the whim of a wannabe dictator.
Disneyland constitutional law from indignant guesses.He is finding wasted money EVERYWHERE. Why is it a bad thing?
Oh yeah gotta believe the community minded , billionaire Nazi ,
Ho ho hoThey are literally posting the proof. You’re as cooked as hiccup. Pretty much everything you and him stand for has failed and it’s fucking hilarious
Who’s they ?
So you think Musk would contribute
$250 million to Trumps campaign, so he could help a bit with the economy
And expect nothing back on
this investment, ?
You’ve always been the one eyed fan boy .Jeffy Bhoy/Ghurl/Fing/Whatever
THEY are playing your song!
A live version!
Oh no
Is Godzilla hurt again
Just stay on you Ukrainian war thread , if that’s your biggest inspiration.
flollo wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:After retaining the Senate, with the help of Crypto money,
The Senate Republicans are working on a bill that would transfer billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars, into the hands of a few big Crypto holders to return that favour .
Blatant corruption 101Hope you’re buying crypto then
100%. Don’t whinge, buy.
Well don’t whine about democratic small scale waste,
Compared to Trump and Musks plans for
huge industrial style, Mega corruption
Australian Greens leader Nick McKim and Barbera Pockok , featuring internationally on Meidas Touch ,
Kids in Timor now not getting breakfast because of US aids axing .
The stooges think that’s a good thing,
remember, Trump first ay
southernraw wrote:burleigh wrote:adam12 wrote:@Burls, @Sypiie,
When Albo gives Clive Palmer the keys to the tax office, and every other government department, and he starts shutting them down, and a bunch of his blokes start going through your financials, and stopping centerlink payments, and sacking essential public servants and cancelling the PBS and sacking all the ASIO agents and cancelling federal education spending and grants to farmers and small businesses and appoints Kyle Sandilands to Defence Chief, and ...I could go on,
can't wait for your posts on that....
and Clive went to the upcoming election victory if Albo won and got up after Albo's speech and gave one of his own that ended with a Seig Heil, and another one in case you missed it, and everyone said "No, you're confused, Clive's actually got a heart", but the only one who didn't say it wasn't a fascist salute was Clive, and Clive was addicted to ketamine, and was unqualified, unvetted, unelected, unauthorised and Albo had no power to let him do it...You think this is a culture war?
A reality show?
Fkn life and death boys.
For millions, us here too.
I'll say it again, you are watching a 249 year old democracy, the world's "greatest" become a fascist basket case in record time, not just watching but cheering.
You will rue the day, one day.
Just my opinion.Our grubs in charge deserve the same treatment. Covid showed how corrupt goverments on every level are.
I hope Clive does do that. I really fucking hope he does.
Hopefully Elon helps with funding for our upcoming election.
But Donald was in charge of the free world all through Covid wasn't he?
Half true he was in for the first year Jan 20 to Jan 21 but travel bans weren't lifted in USA until Nov 21 and their Covid cases peak was in 2022.
Fair to say he was in for half of the Covid time and the other half Biden was in, the first half was way harder though, nobody knew what we were dealing with and no vaccine etc
sypkan wrote:clives a wanker
dutton's being pegged as oz's trump fix...
dutto's no trump
oz problems are different
though you wouldn't know it... the way anti-trumpers carry on...
which might just get dutton over the line...
sadly
Yeah the comparisons to Trump are silly neither are anything like Trump and i think it would be a mistake for either to try to be.
Trump controls the show he is like a movie director and he gets away with things that no other politician in history could ever get away with.
Trump is a once in a life time politician unique in every way.
Exxotixjeff wrote:quadzilla wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:sypkan wrote:"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."
just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...
weird
So fucking weird.
Very successful businessmen, are usually very successful, because they are ruthless selfish and cunning,
Why would they suddenly become community minded , champions of the people.
That is naive propaganda at best.
And why do you think the judges and crowds protesting in cities are beneficiaries of the corruption.
And only a gimp would think an
unqualified, unelected, billionaire with no security clearance, should be allowed to illegally access everyone’s private , confidential and classified data, at the whim of a wannabe dictator.
Disneyland constitutional law from indignant guesses.He is finding wasted money EVERYWHERE. Why is it a bad thing?
Oh yeah gotta believe the community minded , billionaire Nazi ,
Ho ho hoThey are literally posting the proof. You’re as cooked as hiccup. Pretty much everything you and him stand for has failed and it’s fucking hilarious
Who’s they ?
So you think Musk would contribute
$250 million to Trumps campaign, so he could help a bit with the economy
And expect nothing back on
this investment, ?
You’ve always been the one eyed fan boy .Jeffy Bhoy/Ghurl/Fing/Whatever
THEY are playing your song!
A live version!
Oh no
Is Godzilla hurt again
Just stay on you Ukrainian war thread , if that’s your biggest inspiration.
Good you don’t know where? maps to Nowhere
?si=UzcWX3oktNgx03E- indo-dreaming wrote:southernraw wrote:burleigh wrote:adam12 wrote:@Burls, @Sypiie,
When Albo gives Clive Palmer the keys to the tax office, and every other government department, and he starts shutting them down, and a bunch of his blokes start going through your financials, and stopping centerlink payments, and sacking essential public servants and cancelling the PBS and sacking all the ASIO agents and cancelling federal education spending and grants to farmers and small businesses and appoints Kyle Sandilands to Defence Chief, and ...I could go on,
can't wait for your posts on that....
and Clive went to the upcoming election victory if Albo won and got up after Albo's speech and gave one of his own that ended with a Seig Heil, and another one in case you missed it, and everyone said "No, you're confused, Clive's actually got a heart", but the only one who didn't say it wasn't a fascist salute was Clive, and Clive was addicted to ketamine, and was unqualified, unvetted, unelected, unauthorised and Albo had no power to let him do it...You think this is a culture war?
A reality show?
Fkn life and death boys.
For millions, us here too.
I'll say it again, you are watching a 249 year old democracy, the world's "greatest" become a fascist basket case in record time, not just watching but cheering.
You will rue the day, one day.
Just my opinion.Our grubs in charge deserve the same treatment. Covid showed how corrupt goverments on every level are.
I hope Clive does do that. I really fucking hope he does.
Hopefully Elon helps with funding for our upcoming election.
But Donald was in charge of the free world all through Covid wasn't he?
Half true he was in for the first year Jan 20 to Jan 21 but travel bans weren't lifted in USA until Nov 21 and their Covid cases peak was in 2022.
Fair to say he was in for half of the Covid time and the other half Biden was in, the first half was way harder though, nobody knew what we were dealing with and no vaccine etc
I'd say he was in for the half that mattered @indo.
Especially being the bullish leader that he is and is revered for by his loyalist supporters. Loyalist sounds like a word straight out of Star Wars and the Imperials.
Weren't vaccines developed and endorsed under his watchful beady eye? Were Americans locked down under him? Masked?? I guess i need to refresh my memory, but would be interested in how Burleigh marries the timeline of Trump and Covid being basically bedpartners. A whole half of his term in fact!
But i'm sure his hands were tied right?? HA!
Since we're talking about Clive aka Fatty McF%$khead....
https://m.
&pp=ygUmZnJpZW5kbHlqb3JkaWVzIGF1c3RyYWxpYSBjbGl2ZSBwYWxtZXI%3D andy-mac wrote:Since we're talking about Clive aka Fatty McF%$khead....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJ7CSRRCDM&pp=ygUmZnJpZW5kbHlqb3JkaWVzIGF...
Compared to Donald , Clive is a Koala ,
I guess you could say “ most” Aussies aren’t as dumb as Americans.
How did we get back to Clive? What’s he got to do with anything US related? Didn’t we spend enough time on him over the years? Let’s get back to the topic. There’s plenty to discuss in the upcoming week:
- Modi travelling to France, followed by a meeting with Trump in the US
- BYD showcasing its self driving capabilities. Claims the technology will be available to everyone. A big nail in Tesla’s coffin
- US and South Korea doing more military drills
- TSCM is having their first ever board meeting in the US. They will visit their upcoming plant in Arizona, their first ever overseas cutting edge facility
- Nissan/Honda merger is a hot topic. It’s dragging on, there are some expectations of further developments this week
- Japanese PM expects no tariffs after meeting with Trump, commits on keeping US Steel in US hands. He will push for further Japanese investments in the US.
- More stock exchange earnings. Last week was a roller coaster. Investors were punishing anything other than perfection and over-delivery. Strange times.
There’s a lot more, thinking about fat Clive is a waste of time.
southernraw wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:southernraw wrote:burleigh wrote:adam12 wrote:@Burls, @Sypiie,
When Albo gives Clive Palmer the keys to the tax office, and every other government department, and he starts shutting them down, and a bunch of his blokes start going through your financials, and stopping centerlink payments, and sacking essential public servants and cancelling the PBS and sacking all the ASIO agents and cancelling federal education spending and grants to farmers and small businesses and appoints Kyle Sandilands to Defence Chief, and ...I could go on,
can't wait for your posts on that....
and Clive went to the upcoming election victory if Albo won and got up after Albo's speech and gave one of his own that ended with a Seig Heil, and another one in case you missed it, and everyone said "No, you're confused, Clive's actually got a heart", but the only one who didn't say it wasn't a fascist salute was Clive, and Clive was addicted to ketamine, and was unqualified, unvetted, unelected, unauthorised and Albo had no power to let him do it...You think this is a culture war?
A reality show?
Fkn life and death boys.
For millions, us here too.
I'll say it again, you are watching a 249 year old democracy, the world's "greatest" become a fascist basket case in record time, not just watching but cheering.
You will rue the day, one day.
Just my opinion.Our grubs in charge deserve the same treatment. Covid showed how corrupt goverments on every level are.
I hope Clive does do that. I really fucking hope he does.
Hopefully Elon helps with funding for our upcoming election.
But Donald was in charge of the free world all through Covid wasn't he?
Half true he was in for the first year Jan 20 to Jan 21 but travel bans weren't lifted in USA until Nov 21 and their Covid cases peak was in 2022.
Fair to say he was in for half of the Covid time and the other half Biden was in, the first half was way harder though, nobody knew what we were dealing with and no vaccine etc
I'd say he was in for the half that mattered @indo.
Especially being the bullish leader that he is and is revered for by his loyalist supporters. Loyalist sounds like a word straight out of Star Wars and the Imperials.
Weren't vaccines developed and endorsed under his watchful beady eye? Were Americans locked down under him? Masked?? I guess i need to refresh my memory, but would be interested in how Burleigh marries the timeline of Trump and Covid being basically bedpartners. A whole half of his term in fact!
But i'm sure his hands were tied right?? HA!
Hmmm knowing your views on things, i do think Trumps views were more inline with yours, he was really pushed to do things like lockdowns and he was critical of the effectiveness of Mask and risk to children and more open to alternatives like Ivermectin (I think Supa mentioned that drug once :P ) and remember when he got Covid and he was like yeah no big deal, i just had the flue, the Chinese flue (although he did look like shit after it, but the dude is old and over weight) he also suggested it could have come from the Wuhan lab and didn't just follow the narrative that wasn't possible, we now know that, that is the most likely starting point, he was also very critical of the WHO for not shutting down flights from China quick enough, and was heavily criticised even called racist for stoping flight's from China into USA.
Example Aug 2020
"Trump says nationwide lockdown would ‘ultimately inflict more harm than it would prevent"
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/trump-says-nationwide-lockdown-would-ult...
"He has questioned the use of face masks, and given inconsistent messages about their use, even after CDC guidelines recommended them. It was only in July that he began to wear one in public at times and talk about their importance.
In pushing schools to re-open in person, he has said that children are “almost immune” and “don’t have a problem,” despite evidence to the contrary."
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/comparing-trump-and...
(I think we can agree their claim of evidence to the contrary was false, children really were at a low risk, that was an area we went over the top, kids in class wearing mask all day, really felt for my daughter, and just vaxing kids when it wasnt really needed)
But yeah he also did champion for Covid vaccines, i personally dont have a problem with that but i do think with the beauty of hindsight things went to far and you guys had some good points that at the time i didn't agree with, cause i just wanted it to be over.
Biden was definitely more over the top in his views and how he pushed things, peak Covid ridiculous was double masking .
"For Joe Biden, two face masks are better than one in the era of COVID-19
WASHINGTON – As President Donald Trump questioned the efficacy of mask wearing during a town hall Thursday night, Democratic challenger Joe Biden was doubling down.
Literally, as Biden likes to say.
The former vice president said he arrived at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia for his separate town hall with an N95 mask under the blue surgical mask that he wore onto the stage.
"I walked in here with this mask, but I have one of the N95 masks underneath it. And I left it in the dressing room, the room I was in before I got here," Biden said when talking about the importance of masks to stop the spread of COVID-19 – and the importance of modeling good behavior."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/16/joe-bi...
Thanks for all that Indo.
I hear ya. Not arguing at all with those points.
Nothing in there suggests Donald was actively negating vaccines, lockdowns and masks, and if anything, he was the leader of the world that was endorsing and allowing it. Doesn't seem to fit the antivax MAGA narrative now does it?
Apologies if this has been shared before, but it's hard to keep up with so much going on.
Bernie Sanders speech a few days ago. Probably one of the most powerful political speeches i've heard. Highly recommend the Quadzillas and Burleighs of the world give it a proper listen.
When you have a politician of such esteem and learnedness as Bernie, standing up in public and political sphere, and making, what sound like such outlandish claims.....and think....when in history has a highly regarded American politician ever made such statements.....well never....then you start to understand the scale of whats really going on right now. To all the Trump supporters that are riding this thing til the death.
Please, seriously take some time to look around and listen. This is not a game.
And @exottixjeffy, good on ya for keeping on beating the good drum. You've copped alot of flak here, but so far you're pretty much spot on with everything as far as i can see.
Here's Bernie. In Bernie we trust.
See you all in a little while, I wonder what the world will look like then.
My 2 cents.
Trump opposed lockdowns because the economy was about the only selling point he had leading up to an election, and not because he gave a shit about peoples rights.
Anyway, it was up to the individual states to decide those rules, like it was here.
A timeline of Donnies statements during covid, there's some clangers in there.
https://doggett.house.gov/media/blog-post/timeline-trumps-coronavirus-re...
Unreal. Thanks for that link TS and agree with alot of what you say.
Hope lifes treating you well.
Geez, this one stood out for it's sheer callousness. (Donalds administration)
"May 6, 2020
The Brookings Institution reports that children were “experiencing food insecurity to an extent unprecedented in modern times” and “40.9 percent of mothers with children ages 12 and under reported household food insecurity since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic.” Republicans block proposals to expand food stamps"
And one just for Burleigh..
Trump said..."“The deep state, or whoever, over at the FDA is making it very difficult for drug companies to get people in order to test the vaccines and therapeutics. Obviously, they are hoping to delay the answer until after November 3rd. Must focus on speed, and saving lives!”
Dayummm!
"Nov. 9, 2020
“If Joe Biden were President, you wouldn’t have the Vaccine for another four years, nor would the @US_FDA have ever approved it so quickly. The bureaucracy would have destroyed millions of lives”
southernraw wrote:Unreal. Thanks for that link TS and agree with alot of what you say.
Hope lifes treating you well.
cheers SR, back at ya.
The latest US employment numbers were released and they are showing resilience. Unemployment is back down to 4% with some wage growth attached to it. This is the last report that we can attribute to Biden’s presidency and it sets the benchmark for Trump. Honestly, these are strong numbers and I’m suspicious about Trump beating them. Biden handed over a very strong economy. Yes, inflation was an issue but the economy was and still is strong.
My gut feel tells me that 2025 will be a tough year. And the next few years will be even tougher, especially for white collar jobs.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/january-jobs-report-unemployment-rate-fal...
velocityjohnno wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJIN888QGvQ
See you all in a little while, I wonder what the world will look like then.
So now Luke Farritor has gone and potentially fucked up his life , by following a notorious Nazi billionaire scammer and exposing himself taking part in the biggest illegal hacking operation in US history .
Not that intelligent.
southernraw wrote:Apologies if this has been shared before, but it's hard to keep up with so much going on.
Bernie Sanders speech a few days ago. Probably one of the most powerful political speeches i've heard. Highly recommend the Quadzillas and Burleighs of the world give it a proper listen.
When you have a politician of such esteem and learnedness as Bernie, standing up in public and political sphere, and making, what sound like such outlandish claims.....and think....when in history has a highly regarded American politician ever made such statements.....well never....then you start to understand the scale of whats really going on right now. To all the Trump supporters that are riding this thing til the death.
Please, seriously take some time to look around and listen. This is not a game.
And @exottixjeffy, good on ya for keeping on beating the good drum. You've copped alot of flak here, but so far you're pretty much spot on with everything as far as i can see.
Here's Bernie. In Bernie we trust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go5xuokhnQY
Yes thanks. S R
It’s been obvious for a
while now,
and I still get a lot of my information from
Meidas Touch and other pro democracy sources, despite the criticism from the
Supa , Indos who never actually view any of them.
Steve Bannon , far right wing,
White Supremacist quote
“ The media is our enemy “
One of the first steps to authoritarianism, is to intimidate and eliminate the free , independent
media, and replace it with a state run media,
Which is basically what Fox News is now, which is why it’s so low in credibility.
That’s why it’s good to have independent, and international , pro democracy , news outlets.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank