Fake propaganda on the internet

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thermalben started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 10:57am

For all of the good things Facebook's done, it's also become a vehicle for fake propaganda. Latest example came through my feed last night as such:

Now don't get me wrong. The GBR dredging is a massive issue and I don't agree with it at all. But, the image is fake.

First clue? Highrise buildings. I can't recall any central or northern Qld township with such a spread of vertical concrete.

Second clue? The claimed '40kms off the Great Barrier Reef'. Now, the GBR is anywhere between 15km and 150km off the mainland. The horizon is around 5km away, for an observer standing 2m above the ground. For an observer 100m above the ground the horizon is 36 km away. So, assuming the aerial photo was taken 100m above the water - which is possible - then the highrise buildings are about 4km past the horizon. Which is in the ocean (yes, I realise that the height of the highrise buildings means that they could be visible from further away, in which case I refer you back to the first clue).

Third clue? Dredging technique (it's more of a spray than a dredge).

So with the use of Google's Image Search I quickly tracked down the source of the photo - it's actually a method of building man-made sand islands in Dubai.

http://thechive.com/2012/08/01/what-it-looks-like-to-build-your-own-isla...

This isn't the first time such techniques have been used to create fake propaganda, but it's a real shame as it only clouds the real issues at stake.

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sandspit commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 11:04am

far out thats an amazing image!

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stunet commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 11:32am

thermalben wrote: This isn't the first time such techniques have been used to create fake propaganda, but it's a real shame as it only clouds the real issues at stake.

Very true. It dissappoints me no end when I see people who share a similar political view resort to these tactics. It undermines the credibility of everyone involved.

My current internet bugbear is the fake Albert Einstein quote. Take a look around, they're ubiquitous on FB. Often presented in a motivational/inspirational poster-type way that gives the person who publishes it a reflected feeling of wisdom. 

"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is.”

Bertie Einstein didn't say any of these.

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uplift commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 12:15pm

Yeh, tell us about it! I even saw where somehow 25 mins of no one catching a wave, of two guys sitting around doing stuff all for 3/4 of the heat, suddenly became the greatest Pipeline final ever seen!

Zo figure, its Zo, Zo, Zo amasing! Zo to speak.

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stunet commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 12:20pm

Somewhere in Japan there is a grown man crying.

I hope you're happy with yourself Uppity.

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uplift commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 12:23pm

Zo be it.

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dave_anning commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 1:26pm

Hey Ben
Agree completely with the sentiment.
To be a pedant, the image IS actually of a dredge. From the looks of it a trailing hopper suction dredge.
It basically vacuums up sand into the middle, motors somewhere else, then rainbows it out to where it is needed.
They used that method at Bribie a little while back.
Though I guess you could've meant it wasn't actively dredging.

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thermalben commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 1:32pm

I knew someone would pull me up on that! But yeah that was my point.

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stray-gator_2 commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 1:38pm

Yeh, tell us about it! I even saw where somehow 5 mins of fame as a slightly bent country basketballer who then sat around doing stuff all with bits of heavy metal for 45 years entitled an absolute idiot to hold himself (literally) out as the greatest authority on everything and everyone ever seen!

Its amasing! I’m a dumb BoZo and a sleazy MoFo. So pleaze NoGo coz I’m a real DilDo. Ho Ho Ho. Yo.

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So to speak.

I aim to give you something that you can keep for life. A bit like herpes. My techniques are not available in any book or course; what would scientists know? I have played with model trains for 40 plus years.

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zenagain commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 2:28pm

If a man cries in a forest and noone is around to hear him, does he make a sound?

But say you, surely there is nothing easier for me to imagine than tears, for instance, on a face.

;)

Greatest Pipe final- EVER!

Watashi wa metabo oyagi desu.

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thermalben commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 3:14pm

Just saw it shared again - since last night it's gone from 1,400 Facebook shares to 6,500 Facebook shares. Classic symptoms of a social media ambush.

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uplift commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 3:36pm

'I’m a dumb BoZo and a sleazy MoFo. So pleaze NoGo coz I’m a real DilDo. Ho Ho Ho. Yo.'

True enough, you may be just a scrawny, little Bronzed Gimp gatesy, but don't be so hard on yourself, even if everyone else continually is, and has been for years and years and years and years and years and years.

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groundswell commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 3:39pm

zenagain wrote: If a man cries in a forest and noone is around to hear him, does he make a sound?

But say you, surely there is nothing easier for me to imagine than tears, for instance, on a face.

;)

Greatest Pipe final- EVER!

I dont like the original version of that quote, if a tree, even dead tree falls all the insects, birds and possums etc will sure know about it.
But i guess back in those days people were stupid enough to think animals dont count, nor have a soul.

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indo-dreaming commented Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013 at 6:33pm

thermalben wrote:
This isn't the first time such techniques have been used to create fake propaganda, but it's a real shame as it only clouds the real issues at stake.

Yeah exactly..

So much fake/misleading or just plain scams on Facebook.

I normally do a google search after reading something that sounds suss and often find its a hoax, but some people just don't question and share or like.

This site http://www.hoax-slayer.com is pretty good source of info on that kind of thing and normally onto it, even fake political photos.