Reef safe sunscreen

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GODS QUAD started the topic in Friday, 18 Jan 2019 at 12:16pm

Have been reading a lot lately about the toxic shit that goes into sunscreen and how it messes with both your body as well as damaging reefs and waterways while wearing it.

So, in an effort to be a responsible ocean user, I'm looking at only using reef safe sun protection from here on. Has anyone got recommendations or favourites for any of these products?? I loved the Vertra brand stuff, which I believe is (mostly) reef safe, but can't find it anywhere locally any more...

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thermalben commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 6:05am

Good topic mate. I've been using Key Sun Clear Zinc for a while, though haven't looked to see if it's reef safe.

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simba commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 6:57am

Been using this for a while now...https://www.wearefeelgoodinc.com.au/

And its good better than the sun clear and better enviromentally if you read their blurb....made by surfers ....but reading an article in Stab recently and maybe we shouldn't be using any sunscreen...

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simba commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 7:00am
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surfiebum commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 8:01am

I've happily been using the surf mud zinc and I see that they have a sunscreen now which is reef safe, but they have no details on ingredients or if it has TGA approved. Could be good though!

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GODS QUAD commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 1:24pm

Thanks for the recommendations, crew.

I've been testing a few over the past few weeks and can say hands down, Salt and Stone cream has been the best so far. Smells great, reef safe and really thick, much like the Vertra stuff I used to love. Has been working great for this freckly skinned, strawberry blonde test rider!

Surfiebum; epic! Love Surf Mud, will have to check that one out.

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blindboy commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 2:39pm

Good article simba but the bottom line is that the amount of sun exposure needed to maintain vitamin D levels is much lower than most surfers would get without some sort of sun protection. Melanoma is not the only problem associated with over exposure. Apart from the other skin cancer types exposure ages the skin. I have always worn a long sleeve rash vest so if I compare the skin on my arms to the skin on my legs which are exposed in summer, there is huge difference. The skin on my legs is much more easily damaged, has many more areas of discolouration and has lots more wrinkles.

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 4:13pm

I agree Blindboy i call bullshit on the sunscreen not allowing us to get vitamin D, you don't need that much sun to get your dose and even with sunscreen you still get exposure.

Vitamin D deficiency is more something that affects people who don't get any sun at all and dint do outdoor activities, or in particular those with little sun exposure with darker skin types that don't get vitamin D as efficiently as those with lighter skin types.

For further reference and common sense.

General Social issues: Rita Panahi & Lauren Southern
Indigenous issues: Jacinta Price and Anthony Dillion
Gender: Debra Soh.
Islam: Armin Navabi & Brigitte Gabriel
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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 4:12pm

BTW. you often hear this sunscreen ruining reefs, but really how much of a factor is it???

Asking the question, not criticising..im open minded on this.

For further reference and common sense.

General Social issues: Rita Panahi & Lauren Southern
Indigenous issues: Jacinta Price and Anthony Dillion
Gender: Debra Soh.
Islam: Armin Navabi & Brigitte Gabriel
Population: Dick Smith

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AndyM commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 4:18pm

How much of a factor is it - well it depends Indo, sometimes it's a 30, sometimes an SPF 50, it's a matter of what you require.

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zenagain commented Friday, 1 Feb 2019 at 4:19pm

ha ha!

Watashi wa metabo oyagi desu.

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dawnperiscope commented Monday, 18 Feb 2019 at 8:37am

re: Key Sun Clear Zinc - i've been using that for a while too and on the kids.
Just had a strange thing happen with the pool.. Found that the chlorinator cell clear plastic cover was coated all over the inside with what looked and felt like sunscreen. Pool tech reckons he hadn't seen it before.
I always makes sure the sunscreen is rubbed in so wondering how much comes off. If it was sunscreen on the cover, I guess that would also end up in the ocean. Not good.

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 18 Feb 2019 at 3:45pm

Aborigines crushed Red Eye Wattle in water for Sunscreen
Egyptians blended Rice Bran oils for sunscreen with Jasmine for aftersun care.

1999 Qld World Heritage Parks of K'gari & Gowanda drafted Sunscreen Guidelines.
Qld/NSW both adopted NO Sunscreen Swim. [Apply Sunscreen after Swimming].
It strictly applies to confined pristine WH Watercourses not wider WH GBR+parks.

Read Here: Caring for Parks & Forests (*Protect creeks & Lakes) re: Sunscreen
https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/experiences/caring_for_parks_and_forests.html

2004' Mexico promotes Bio Sunscreen often confiscating imported Sunscreen

More countries are banning Oxybenzone/Octinoxate some up to 10 ingredients.

7 Aug 2018 Fiji Resorts begin banning use of imported Sunscreens

1 Jan 2020 Palau bans Shop Sunscreens (Due to WH Jelly Lake pollution)
1 Jan 2021 Hawaii bans Shop Sunscreens (This is Not a luggage search thing!)
1 Jan 2021 Florida Key West bans Shop Sunscreens
1 Jan 2021 Caribbean Bonaire Island bans Resort Sunscreen
More to follow...

Note; Solo Sunscreen application can kill 5km of Reef.

Here's our local compliant Vegan/Para free/Coral safe non slip Grom Surfers brew.
https://seagullmilk.com/products/seagullmilk

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Blowin commented Monday, 18 Feb 2019 at 4:01pm

Solo sunscreen application can kill 5km of reef.....

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 18 Feb 2019 at 4:05pm

(Correction!) Gowanda does guard Marine Parks but it should read 'Gondwana'
Gondwana was home to Gowanda prior to him reincarnating as a Dolphin.

NP sunscreen guide centres-Gondwana ancient mountain streams & Rock pools.

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 18 Feb 2019 at 5:11pm

Yeah! Good call Blowin...I'm not sure myself...I'll add the News Story link...

Article Wording: [Sunscreen Pollution can affect 'Reefs' up to 5km away]
I assumed 1 polluter per reef was enough...Add as many as you like I guess.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/02/pacific-island-to-introduc...

14,000 tonnes of Sunscreen enters ocean each year. So which reef isn't fucked?
https://www.1millionwomen.com.au/blog/how-choose-sunscreen-wont-harm-cor...

Least of concerns as the sunscreen junkies are breeding abnormalities.

Coral based sunscreen could save the sea creature's
https://www.csiro.au/en/Research/MF/Areas/Biomedical/Health-and-wellbein...

Logically if Earth is heating up then reefs could use a good dose of sunscreen?
tbb does not endorse Lil Lisa Slurry...
http://joannenova.com.au/2018/03/thin-sunscreen-layer-to-save-reef-from-...

Want to see your half a billion dollars evaporating away...
https://www.barrierreef.org/science-with-impact/sunscreen-for-the-reef