Best beach for an artificial reef?

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Cacadajy started the topic in Friday, 17 Nov 2017 at 5:25pm

Furter to the Science of KS Wavepool discussion, anyone want to nominate a stretch of beach most suited.
Assuming the reef actually works.

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udo commented Saturday, 18 Nov 2017 at 9:21pm

caca you have to comment on your post to get it up on page

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Cacadajy commented Saturday, 18 Nov 2017 at 9:31pm

Novice mistake. Thanks Udo.

I may as well nominate a stretch while I am here.

Reckon the stretch between Sunshine beach and Coolum would benefit from some human intervention. Not a great swell magnet but the way banks form (super short outside to deep wide gutter to short shorey ) could only be improved.

Not right now thanks.

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toneranger commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 8:01am

the stretch from gulview road to the o'sullivan's beach boat launch.never seen a bank there in 35 years

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 8:32am

IMO the best places for artificial reefs are spots that are almost waves, where they get some swell, are offshore in predominate wind directions, and the swells focus and almost do their thing, but for some reason there is a few elements missing.

In my local area.

There is a point at YCW next to smiths beach called mums, its tucked way in area that is offshore in winter W to NW winds, despite its location it gets a decent amount of swell, it lines up perfect on an outside ledge but straight after the drop starts going fat running into a deep hole, then 150 metres down the line is a big suck rock where another reef does a similar thing which runs into a beach...on a mal or sup you could surf it all the way through doing basically nothing but staying on a swell ....but it would make a perfect artificial reef if all the dots were connected.

Also Sunliners in the bay at Flynns another almost good wave on super low tides, if it just had a shallower bit of reef on the outside it would be a great wave, get more swell than you think and straight offshore in summer SE winds

Even right point, great first section then goes fat, almost links with thistles a B grade wave, fill in that middle section and it would be a very long wave and once a guy caught a wave you wouldn't see them back at the take off spot again for 20 minutes.

Every area in Australia has a few of these spots that just need a tiny bit of tinkering.

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toneranger commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 8:44am

still in your area indo,what about Elephants?

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 8:57am

Ha ha..depends where you call Elephants?

Ive always known it as the far east end of the Summerlands beach (which is rarely surfed as fickle and not east to get too, but gets a decent amount of swell)

But I've heard people call other spots Elephants?

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murphy commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 9:28am

I knew Elephants as another name for Right Point, and also knew Cowrie Hole as Shelly beach, but way, way back it was also known as Timothy's. Sunliners wasn't known in my day...you couldn't get a longboard into it without ending up pearling up to your eyeballs.

Murphy Del Mar

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 10:02am

Yeah I've also heard Elephants was and old name for right point.

I always knew Shelley beach as what most call Cat Bay, use to go looking for cowries there as a kid when they had the shell house across the road.

Yeah Sunliners is a bit of hoax peels great for 20-50 metres but then closes out heavy on the dry sand, great for lids but not great for surfboards, but if it peaked up another 50metres outside it could be a great wave.

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John Eyre commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 2:06pm

Yes agreed .Add onto reefs that need holes filled !
If men can build pyramids they can also sculpture a perfect wave in their lifetime . Who will be the first human to make a perfect wave by sculpting with chisel & hammer over a lifetime ?
A bit of gelignite to boot...

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Cacadajy commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 3:57pm

Newcastle beach off the kiddie pool, that left could be epic.

In SA, Middleton point with a left and right running for 500m. It's shallow anyway so just throw in a reef 750mm to 1m shallower and see what you get?

Not right now thanks.

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Halfscousehalfc... commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 4:03pm

terrigal near the rock pool could benefit with a artificial surf reef. There's some rocks for a base, could help stop beach erosion and could enhance the swells that get in. Protected from the southerly too

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John Eyre commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 4:48pm

Instead of artificial reefs how about some angled groyne type thing as in California wedge ? The swell runs down along it , thats a completely different type of thing than an artificial reef . It would shelter the wind too...

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toneranger commented Sunday, 19 Nov 2017 at 5:33pm

yeah indo,sorry about lateness of reply-just got back home.what we called elephants was that headland which ultimately broke into cat bay.guys on hobie cats got the most joy out of it.also great memories of those banks down at the end of summerlands you we're alluding to.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 3 Jun 2018 at 9:36am

SS Efficiency is pumping out Artificial Surf Reefs as I type.
The Ship hit 9m swells off NSW Central Coast- losing 83 containers creating new surfbreaks.

*Fingal Head Container Reef
*Boodelbah Island Container Reef
*Yaccaba Headland Container Point Break

Surgical Debris Surf Breaks...(Sanitary Pads) Officially Not Gross... repeat! NOT GROSS!
*Rocky Point
*Jimmys Beach

See local News for more broken up recycled Surf Breaks as they happen...

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blindboy commented Sunday, 3 Jun 2018 at 12:32pm

They should really hit the shipping company hard over this. The conditions were heavy but not exceptional so there is absolutely no excuse for them coming unstuck. The certifying authority (Lloyd's Register?) will probably also face some serious questions as it was clearly not sea worthy.

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Ash commented Sunday, 3 Jun 2018 at 12:50pm

2nd Cacadajy's Middleton Point. We have so many "almost" spots down here and plenty of swell, and the Point is a really good place to start an enhancement project. The area I think has been recently nominated as a future surfing reserve, and the point would have to be the most visited spot from surfers out of town, tidying up the Bay left and Point right would be all time.

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thermalben commented Sunday, 3 Jun 2018 at 1:00pm

Middleton would be a terrible spot for an artificial reef. Bathymetry gradient is too shallow. There are much better locations at Victor.

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Ash commented Sunday, 3 Jun 2018 at 3:33pm

I think the point, Bay area could be improved on with some work, why? because it already provides surf of varying quality ( with the shallow gradient ) that is subject to where and how much sand is in place. It's the lack of "reef" in certain spots to hold the sand which could be improved on. However I agree that there are better deeper water spots that could be used for a complete reef setup rather than my hot rodding up of an existing structure.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 3 Jun 2018 at 7:12pm

Surfers whole give a big shout out to Locals/Tourists cleaning up Ship's Containers debris.
Locals say they're looking at weeks onto months clean -up during whale season.

Roads & Maritime CEO warned scavengers that the debris was property of the consignor.
Property meaning: Soggy Paper rolls/Sanitary Pads/Nappies/surgical masks/Cheap Clocks.

YM Efficiency has been refused entry to Sydney. In fear of mining the shipping harbour.

As in ECL Pasha Bulker/Tampa. We decide which Container ship is exploited for Bi-Election.
Dutton's Super Ministry reminds Clean-up crew to pay GST on any soggy refugee Tampons.

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udo commented Sunday, 3 Jun 2018 at 7:16pm

Mountains of rubbish but WTF are containers of Emu oil doing coming in from Taiwan ?