In today's Age
Man, you can nearly blind me but I'm not gunna report you to the cops. Unbelievable.
Interesting comments about the pecking order on those points, the lawlessness and the role so called ambassadors of the sport have (or don't have) in the mix of things ..... referencing back to the forum topic on use of PWC at Kirra by Fanning/Parkinson & the Hueys.
Maybe he doesn't want to involve the cops because he believes in 'an eye for an eye'? Good link floyd!
The annual media "surf rage" story. Actually I did get a laugh at quote;
" A lot of surfing's followers don't see it as a sport or hobby, but as an "art" or a "spiritual" calling....."
Look I could be out of step here, maybe I just happen to have known, by random bad luck, the only bunch of purely materialistic highly competitive atheists in the world of surfing but I can quite honestly say that in the last 50 years or whatever it is now since I started I have never, to the best of my memory, had one single conversation with anyone who actually surfed about its spiritual dimension. Art? Well I suppose if half a shark in a tub of formaldehyde, and a crucifix in a container full of urine make the cut, hell yes, I'll claim my cutback!
See that's where I must live in a parallel universe. According to my life experience and values violence in the surf is just not acceptable under any circumstances. That bloke who deliberately let his board smash into the face of that guy ought to be reported to the cops and the full weight of the law should be brought to bear. Interesting, if he is like that in the surf what sort of employee, mate, son, husband or father would he make?
The way I see it 1/2 the problem with surf related issues like this (surf rage, drugs, PWCs at Kirra etc) is the surf media itself and its links to "the industry" and associated gravy train. First rule of the gravy train is don't shit on it which means you can't call cowardice and other outrageous behaviour as it is.
Did anyone say violence in the surf was acceptable floyd? I agree with most of what you say but think we probably need to look a bit deeper than the surf media in analysing its causes.
"half a shark in a tub of formaldehyde, and a crucifix in a container full of urine make the cut"
We will forget about your cut back BB, because this incident involved a long boarder....?
Your most favourite surf board rider ;)
So is this what you mean by your quote above....!
I think that quote is illustrious;)
welly I nominated my cutback as being of roughly of the same quality, these days at least, as the art works I mentioned. MPs cutback, having elements of the sublime, might be true art. Mine is rubbish.
Like I said above the quote is great regarding ......!
I read/comprehend things differently;)
As regards to violence in the surf there is no need at all.
its about education, any school or surf school have to be given and TAUGHT rules of etiquette. WE may have half a generation of selfish fools in the water, but if we ensure that all future surfers understand just what is acceptable or not, this can be eliminated. Yes floyd, this is a societal issue, so as much as i do not like making examples or hurting others, use the police/ judicial system to weed out wankers. no use pointing fingers, lets just focus on solutions.
Practice is the best of all instructors.
welly, i have 5'10 quad and a 7'8 tri in shed, plus a mate who sits deep at snapper who will ride shotgun, plus all local boys will let me have what i want, the rave in training, time for rave to get foamballed- thanks to sheepio- he was main motivator, bro, we will be so deep. all local legends will be so happy to see me on board- surfing no problem= paddling and d diving issue- just one more loving embrace inside our wonderful companion the ocean. got to to do 12 oclock re entry though- as long as me smiling, i am surfing
BB, It is complex but I just think it should be called for what it is without any ambiguity or jest and that's where the often silent surf media have an important role to play. In my opinion it is simply unacceptable behaviour in or out of a surfing/sporting context or arena.
there's no excuse for abuse-yes it doesnt sell papers/mags or viewers/listeners floyd. im fully with u, but controversy mentality draws those still using their reptillian part of brain to function-fight and flight in one, thats why we are socialised into it- without it- politics, relationships, media would all be very very different. i talked to girl in newsagent one day when placard out front promoting local paper highlighted surf rage issue- she said that paper had sold the fastest she had ever seen it- all unacceptable behaviour has to be highlighted, education would be great- but name and shame and penalties have to be included at this stage as education at schools at at home in dysfunctional family settings create a beast that does rear it's unacceptable ugly head. theres no excuse for abuse- fridge magnet, bumper sticker for all aussies
Is that Phil Jarret off with the fairy's, Bells Beach violent? Surfed there all my life and never seen it, didn't even get crowded till around ten years ago. Surfed Huntington Pier for 3 months one summer when I was working there, not a problem. The fact that he had a posse after him says more about him, maybe he has been told to fuck off from all the places he put in the violent category. Fuck ay, just no respect for those tribal elders.
'education would be great- but name and shame and penalties have to be included at this stage as education at schools at at home in dysfunctional family settings create a beast that does rear it's unacceptable ugly head. theres no excuse for abuse- fridge magnet, bumper sticker for all aussies'
But the reality is that our society, our culture was founded on and perpetuates abuse, lies and violence. The only reason Australia exists is because the founders broke their own laws. They, the british founders, the basis and foundation and perpetuation of our culture, attacked, abused and butchered Traditional Indigenous Australians, and forced our culture on them, after the attackers and abusers failed to 'exterminate' them. Simultaneously they stole and decimated their homes, their land, their Mother, and their Cultures, which they, Traditional Indigenous Australians had fostered and occupied for some 60,000 years.
That unrivalled, sustained abuse and violence, and the proliferation of lies are perpetuated daily. We celebrate it, 'Australia Day', whilst by our own laws, we continue to use violence and abuse to stay in receipt of proven, stolen property.
Change has to come at foundation level, or its like building a new building on a sinking, rotten, decomposing foundation. Doomed. Changing the foundation and culture of violence and abuse is almost incomprehensable, as it requires admitting, owning and examining the truth, and a genuine want of things to be different. For starters, we have to want Indigenous Australians to have their legal property back, stolen property, which we keep through the use of brute force and lies. Our 'culture' is very cunning though. We always create a loophole, an excuse. So our children are 'educated' from day one.
What about a bumper sticker saying " Fuck off the Surf is Full, there's enough Criminals surfing Here "
Or " If your Grandad didn't steal the loaf of bread, you wouldn't be riding these waves"
In today's Age
Weird it was in todays age, thats an old story/article.
Its interesting to contrast it against this story, after which two people have been bought in for questioning and the culprit deservedly named and shamed.
Right on Silicun, wasn't too long ago racism was "accepted" on and off the sporting field as par for the course if you looked or spoke different. Now is totally unacceptable everywhere. That change came about because individuals (e.g.Nicky Winmar you legend), business, government and the judiciary stood up and called it out.
old article or not surfed all the points up to an age where if you fucked it or crossed a true local you knew where you stood but that sort or shit is not surfing!there is that many numnuts in the water these days there is no use get'n fired up about this sort of shit.fair enough if you want to go to battle like alot of retarards in the the water fighting over average wave these days go for it!surf all around the world and the shit sets in even in the most remote spots.screw ya heads on surfing is suppose to be fun!
Jeff Shcmuker on localism,
"more crowded 10 years ago"
Wish i could say the same about my coast
His Great grandad stole bread from far beyond and ended up here.