Proposed wave pool in Melbourne….WTF?

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indo-dreaming started the topic in Monday, 10 Nov 2014 at 5:30pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-10/docklands-surf-beach-proposal-firm...

Doesn't look that appealing, compared to Kellys or Gregs though.

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davywayback commented Saturday, 9 May 2015 at 9:44am

I hope it'll be heated.

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udo commented Saturday, 8 Aug 2015 at 9:01am

Arent Snowdonia promising a 2 metre barrel.....and going to ramp up the power shortly and show it ?
1 barreling wave per minute.......?

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Adrian Bartlett commented Monday, 17 Aug 2015 at 6:18pm

Looks awesome but would be lame like the rest of them!

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velocityjohnno commented Monday, 17 Aug 2015 at 6:51pm

One can imagine the Peninsula, Island and Surfcoast surfers pestering Craig in the forecast comments, asking if the weather will be nice enough to make the run into Melbourne for a wave on the weekend!

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 9:26am

Starting construction next month, say will be operating easter 2019.

1,000 waves an hour?

Hmmm bit skeptical on this and quality.

https://www.theurbanlist.com/melbourne/a-list/urbnsrf-melbourne?utm_cont...

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Nick Bone commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 10:08am

God damn, that was cringe worthy to read. Couldnt tell if the chick was taking the piss

I am the bone

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southey commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 10:51am

Muppets . That location is windy as all get out . Right near the airport too .

" SA's Reserve Capacity "

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tux commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 11:23am

Fucking sweet...bye bye gym membership!! Hit a 2 hrs session before work a few times a week and your golden...be interested to see pricing

Looks like Nland is $90 an hour and Snowdonia is 45-60 pounds per hour

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quokka commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 12:04pm

Ahhh the serenity and the smell of jet fuel, perfect. Huh, how can a N/S oriented lagoon ALWAYS produce offshore winds?!!!!
Isn' there a wave pool already under construction in QLD?
That's false advertising bikinis in Melbourne, more like snow jackets.

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GuySmiley commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 12:08pm

Melbourne is so grid-locked with traffic I just wonder who the target market is. Its access road from Melbourne is the tullamarine freeway which is permanently choked with traffic and/or road works. Its feeder freeways - the monash, the ring road and the calder are also equally congressed. So who in the right mind would set out for a pool surf knowing they would have to fight all that fucking traffic and road works? It really is wedged in a corner surrounded by filthy roads and freeways. Its location is also extremely open and windy, me thinks a big white elephant after the novelty wears off regardless of price and wave quality .... just wonder how much the state government has chipped in?

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 12:21pm

A smarter location would have been between Melbourne and Geelong, then you would have got Melbourne surfers and West Coast surfers (novelty factor) and possible tourist going down that way.

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50young commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 1:28pm

Quokka
It's Melbourne so more like Bikini 1 minute, snow jacket the next minute, rain coat the next

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VicRhino commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 2:16pm

QLD surfers will want to come down to tow into it ...

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stunet commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 2:18pm

Ha ha

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Ocean Road Surfer commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 2:35pm

Agree with Guy Smiley. The freeways to get to the airport are a bloody car park, and there is always roadworks. Takes me a few minutes to drive to my locals, getting to this joint from Geelong would be an all day mission. You gotta leave by 5.30 am just to get a decent run to the airport. When would the average life-long competent surfer get to use it once you throw in all the beginners, kooks, logs, tourists, alleged 'Olympic training', competitions, non surfing activities, etc etc. A 2 hour surf would no doubt cost around $200 minimum, and to get most benefit you would have to be sure the wind direction is optimal. The wave park in Wales is by all accounts pretty gutless, doesn't have barrel sections, the water is freezing cold, closed over winter and seriously overpriced for what you get. If I win the lottery, I may go once, but I'm happy with what the ocean brings. This thing will be a white elephant, probably sooner than we think.

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southey commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 4:55pm

This will be targeted at those pesky ( wake surfers ) . Whats the bet they install a rope system to help them get into the wave . or some sort of ramp to slide down into it ? I can't believe if their was Government funding that they haven't gone with the National Water Sports Centre . They have a cable park there now , would make it easy for all the wake surfers to walk across into it .

" SA's Reserve Capacity "

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Stok commented Friday, 23 Feb 2018 at 5:31pm

I live it St Kilda. Takes 25 mins to drive to the airport off peak and anywhere from 30-45 mins in peak. Simple answer is don't go in peak periods. It would beat driving for afterwork surfs in summer (which I do sometimes), which take anywhere from 1 hour 20 to 1 hour 50. Also, the benefit of going after hours in winter under lights is a big selling point.

Tulla's fairly windy but picks up the prevailing Northerlys more than the Westerly's/Southerly's. A short fetched wave pool is hardly going to get too choppy if it's directly onshore. Hopefully it's oriented such that Northerly is offshore.

Some solar heating would help in winter, but in summer it will be a warm bath. I've been surfing in boardies here in Viico since Jan, and the bay is even warmer. A small body of water such as the pool will be easily 24 degrees+. Winter...well probably 10 degrees without heating!

The cost is one thing that worries me...driving to the surf costs $25 in petrol, but getting to the wave pool will be $10 in tolls + petrol ($5?) + cost of a 1 hours session ($60-$120?).

The second thing is availability. There has to be at least a few thousand surfers in Melbourne, a lot of them are very rich. I'd be surprised if it's not booked out solid, and the less financially free surfers aren't priced out.

Also, about location...well Tullamarine is relatively cheap in terms of land cost and is well serviced with major utilities (water, power etc.). There's plenty of better places for it but they're hardly going to rip up parklands next to the CBD, or install massive amounts of infrastructure to put it halfway between Melbs and Geelong.

It'll never be as good as the real thing but it'll definitely be fun.

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quokka commented Wednesday, 7 Mar 2018 at 12:33pm

Melbourne seems to definitely be happening.
https://twitter.com/urbnsurf/status/966817448321257472

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simba commented Wednesday, 7 Mar 2018 at 1:03pm

So any latest on Greg Webbers pool?

simba

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udo commented Wednesday, 7 Mar 2018 at 1:15pm

Ha Ha....

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Nick Bone commented Thursday, 8 Mar 2018 at 11:43am

But seriously

I am the bone

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quokka commented Thursday, 8 Mar 2018 at 1:25pm

Yeah near the shit farm

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 26 Dec 2018 at 10:30pm

All quiet on the Oz wave pool front.

My Melbourne Airport (Backdoor Site) Hints Urbnsurf @ 'early' construction phase.

Qld's a wavepool wipeout but Lucky Vicco swellnetonians get a Xmas Bonus gift.

I stumbled upon 18 Page Melbourne Airport Prospectus of detailed plans for site.
I believe this shows more detail than Melbourne Urbnsurf Site.
Happy to share with Swellnetonians...more so for Southern Crew to check out!

I'll throw a few links as it's a download...otherwise head to My Melbourne Airport.

https://my.melbourneairport.com/wave-park

Click Document Library....You should get 18 page portfolio of cool Plans / Stats (or)

file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/URBNSURF_Information_Session_8_Feb2018.pdf

Basically this was urbnsurf's (Feb/2018) detailed pitch to Melbourne Airport.

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yocal commented Friday, 28 Dec 2018 at 10:24am

Nothing from Webber all year. That is disappointing.

Since Rockhampton sent the pros up with Occy I haven't seen anything since either.

Go deeper Taylor, go deeper!

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truebluebasher commented Tuesday, 8 Jan 2019 at 11:29pm

[Breaking News] via URBNSURF facebook Happy New Year & returned.

[ ANNOUNCEMENT ] #1 (30/12/2018)
*Psyched to be pumping out waves at Tullamarine in early 2019

[ ANNOUNCEMENT ] #2a (5/1/2019)
*First Waves by Easter.(Melbourne Airport)....reiterated several times to punters.

[ ANNOUNCEMENT ] #2b (2/1/2019)
Non heated pool (Too expensive to heat)Wettie Hire+ Hot Tubs.
Bigger longer L/R waves than Wave Garden -2 reef waves +2 intermediate breaks

[ ANNOUNCEMENT ] #3 via facebook -(2/1/2019)
*Perth is still progressing well.
On track to deliver urbnsurf Perth once we have Melbourne & Sydney up & running.

Here's the link. If it blocks! No fear use tbb patented Facebook Unblocker.
Reduce zoom to 33% for fb posts...Enough to escape facebook Dark Web.
Make sure to click all of the reply posts & or Vidz.(Patience required!)
(Zoom back up to 100% whilst still in facebook Dark Web) Got that...good'nuff!
https://www.facebook.com/pg/urbnsurf/posts/

PS: Urbnsurf are unusually chatty! Might be up for an interview in off season?

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 9 Jan 2019 at 12:01am

Bonus uncovered Extra from Urbnsurf

[ ANNOUNCEMENT ] #4 (16/10/2018)
Sydney Wave Pool (Opening Date- 2020)

PS: Melbourne Prices are to be released soon.(All Urbnsurf info on facebook page)

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 14 Jan 2019 at 10:31am

Few pics of construction in Melbourne here http://forum.realsurf.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35097

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 14 Jan 2019 at 12:31pm

indo-dreaming wins the block of Wax. ( 'hillsintas deal for pool breakthru's )
Gold Medal for tracking that down...1st photos for 6 months.
So who reckons that looks like an Easter Opening? You wouldn't want rain on-site.

re: Stu's - "Something in the Water"...
Garryh uncovered a dark secret with that there exposed Melbourne Airport soil.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-31/toxic-chemicals-spread-into-water...

Devil & the deep blue sea! (Airport toxic waste pond has great water pressure)
Given that most recent wavepools have been remodeled,repaired & relined.
You'd be shopping for a Lead Lining as mad as that sounds.

Hippity Hoppity

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seaslug commented Monday, 14 Jan 2019 at 1:10pm

Nah not Easter 2019

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 14 Jan 2019 at 3:18pm

No chance of easter 2019 best case scenario six months time.

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seaslug commented Monday, 14 Jan 2019 at 3:24pm

Yep ID. They will be spending investors money, not their own. Construction schedule has most probably been structured around that cash flow.

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 14 Jan 2019 at 10:28pm

I think we're all being awfully polite about touted URBNSURF Easter egg hunt.

Xmas holiday snaps by Pinhead are also to be rewarded.
Black Opps recon' hugs the Razor Wire then storms the bunker.(Nice work)

Gives us a zoom at dynamic engineering + Epic Pool wall offset by rescued trees.
Say won't those trees litter the pool? A very tidy site with neat soil mounds.
The site is well supervised so they have an outside chance with good weather.
I'm guessing that roofing iron is being tempered as curved formwork. Otherwise?

PFAS is surely a big worry to site workers as with our local Gold Coast Airport
https://enviropacific.com.au/projects/remediation-pfas-impacted-groundwa...

URBNSURF BUMPER ISSUE (Breaking News)

[ ATTENTION ] *Surf Careers for Vicco Swellnetonians...(Remember your mates) Job link was posted 1st time 'today only'('Seek'... say Jobs expired but zero detail)
Jobs Nov > (1 month) >Xmas? (Can't be right) As i said the link is new today?
I back checked & no other links exist apart from that on Today's Facebook.
https://urbnsurf.com/careers.html

If you're keen...get onto to it now! You may just get your first choice...
Surf Coach/Surf School Manager/Ticketing/Sales/Service/Lifeguards

If link won't engage leave a Job post on facebook. URBNSURF are replying often.
Alternatively contact 'seek' about link to expired postings. Good Luck crew!

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truebluebasher commented Tuesday, 15 Jan 2019 at 3:07am

Compare Pinheads photos to the Promo Shot.
Having a closer look shows that URBNSURF are near finished the business end.
The Engine Room/WaveMaker housing is complete with divider wall.
All the pool perimeter walls are complete.(Check photo...It does look that way!)

Deepend contouring is complete (pinhead thinks they're ready to concrete it?).
(Pause)
URBNSURF are not concreting the base...they're choosing recycled (HDPE) liner.
As I said recently the risk of tears & Water flooding with PFAS is ever present!
I highly doubt authorities would let you keep the same pool lining after PFAS.

Those 2 saved trees also weirdly feature in Promo shot. (perfectionists?).

These guys have their layout on track & running pretty darn smooth I might add.
Pinhead equally waited for exact moment to xray all raw tech for his photo shoot.

Hard to tell if amenities contractor is maybe awaiting council approval.
As said with good weather and a 2nd wind they may get back on The Bunny Trail.

Thanx again indo-dreaming that's a rare find + great insight into new Oz Tech.

URBNSURF have ramped up new online sites & feedback & it's good to see.

Check out pretty decent FAQ (general) Perth/Syd updates.
https://urbnsurf.com/faq.html

Again Job ads are on a brand new website. The expiry dates may favour insiders?

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truebluebasher commented Tuesday, 22 Jan 2019 at 4:48pm

Melbourne Wave Pool now open this Summer...(Easter Egg Hunt April 20)
Volcano Beach is naturally heated!
10 different wave cycles to choose from ranging up to 1m high.
L & R/Single Roll/Double Roll/Diamond Shape to name just a few.

http://www.funfields.com.au/latest-news

Each time the Volcano erupts the waves grow to Tsunami siZE~~~/C___
Lifeguard! 'Everyone outta the Pool'..."I said NOW!" [ WAVEPOOL CLOSED ]

Gravity Wave (WR Holder) World's Biggest,Longest & Tallest Pro Slide Wave!
I'm pretty sure fellow swellnetonians already knew that!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjMz9nbIcCJVDwHBg0t2y0Q

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truebluebasher commented Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 3:36am

Gold Coast x 2 / Darwin / Sydney / Melbourne / W.A. (Surfable Wavepools)
Wet'n'Wild style WavePools ran (10m on - 10m off) now (20m on -10m off)

Gold Coast / Darwin / Sydney all run Australian Surfing Surf Groms / Lessons
World Champion Surf Coaches + LifeGuard +(Boards / Wet tops / Drink / Photo)

Australian Surfing endorsed Wavepool prices per hour includes WavePool Guru.
Surf Sessions cost ...Gold Coast $30/hr + Darwin-$23/hr + Sydney -$25/hr
Any of these Pools can raise Wave Height to 1m-1.5m + contour 10 shapes.
Cost should not rise by wave height/shape,rather more so by Pool Rule labor force.

Rule 1...No legropes allowed in Wavepools > ( W.A./VIC/NSW/QLD/N.T.) re: link

Hours usually 7:00am - 9:00am

Pool Numbers dictated by Safety. Most Coaches prefer less surfers than maximum.
Most sessions run over 2 hours so min price is 2 x hourly min.
1 Surf Coach prefers 4 surfers.
1 Surf Coach industry Maximum is 6 surfers. (Photos show 5 surfers as the Norm!)
Council Maximum 1 Surf Coach - 8 Surfers...(Coach.."Too Chaotic!")

Tales of a Surf & Wave Pool Coach. Telling interview from the man on the spot.
http://www.surfparkcentral.com/the-art-of-the-saltless-surf-school-lesso...

Sydney Wavepool - Sunday Nippers board training + Swim + 2 SLSC visits.
Cost = [Nipper Member$hip] + [2x Wavepool $eason Passe$ > Adult + Nipper]
SLSA ask for 1 Untrained Coach/Official Volunteer - 20 nippers

URBNSURF will earn 4 x more from Nippers than Surfing Australia/Groms Deal.
SLSA are backed by Pollies with open Cheque Books.(Hard to resist Big Bucks)
Just like real Beaches...Clubbies will easily storm the Wavepools (Cost no object)

Oz Wavepark Rules (2007...2019) Legropes are prohibited.
Max 8 Surfers per Wave Zone
URBNSURF insists 4 wave Zones = 32 surfers in pool at one time is Council Max'
URBNSURF have divider so 16 surfers per side is maximum allowed.(2 LifeGaurds)

Surf Coaches run leggie free lessons from the deep end.They know better alright.
Beefing up Wavepool numbers +[L] leggies. Sells out Wavepool Rules for profit
Greedy Ploy may result in backpay Compo to Oz Surf coaches.(re: Taxis v Uber)
The reason being most Wavepool Coaches teach for Love over money.

Unleash a Cure (#prize won) Surf with MF at opening of Melbourne URBNSURF.
Note! *WSL is a main sponsor...Mick's 'Rip Curl' gear wasn't hidden either?
MF softboards are also used in Wavepool surf lessons...
Mick's Leggie's donation cause! Strange as leggies are banned in Oz Wavepools?
https://fightmnd.com/

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truebluebasher commented Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 1:53pm

2005 was the end of Fibreglass/Hard boards in Oz Water Theme Parks
Toboggan Water Slides/Chutes or Aqua Planers as they were better known.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_Dreamworld_attractions#/med...
Legropes are also banned in Wavepools. (Adaptive are now accepted)
In a 'confined setting' Leggie ramps up board danger for pool goers & rescues.
Water Park attendants Clear Wipeouts! Next...No time to release rider from Leggie!

Link: Nippers/Surfboard Promos are the only exception since 2005 Bans.
https://www.ausleisure.com.au/news/wetnwild-launches-second-nippers-season/

Oz 'Waveparks' have banned fibreglass boards /Leggies since (Day 1) mid '1980's

I've not read reports on how Wavepools intend bypassing obvious restrictive bans.
Existing Wavepools can/do adapt to non restrained 'Soft Boards' from 2007

Former Wave Circuit..Thunder River Rapids {R.I.P} WaterPark Safety is Front Page!
Wavepools now have stricter safety standards.
New Bigger Wave/pools just rock up & tear up 30+ years of WavePool Rules. WTF?

I'm not judging as I too was pissed off when they banned the Aqua Planers.

I'm gonna ramp these Wavepool Rules up a notch....
Sean Connery (007/James Bond)was a Wavepool Lifeguard.(Portobello)

1936-1979 Portobello(Edinburgh)Wavepool was first to allow Surfboards.
Brown Bros Wave Machine could pump large waves but shook the concrete.
Also the rear wash rebounded the back beach sending rip thru- centre of the pool.

Wavepool had Loops/Brit Bodyboardz/Surfboards/Central Raft/Row Boat Rescue.
6,000 Arena 1,300 lockers for Surfers..NYE /night surfing...Fire Diving escapades
WSL can only dream of such a Wave Stadium.
http://porty.org.uk/postcards/gallery/outdoor-pool-2/