2028 LA Olympic Surfing

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2028 LA Olympic Surfing

Dec 2014 ISA Bid to include Surfing in LA Games
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1024316/exclusive-california-bid...

April 2017 LA Mayor bids for Huntington Beach to Host Olympic Surfing
https://stabmag.com/news/huntington-beach-to-make-its-case-to-be-the-nex...

June 2017 International Surfing Day Paddle Out

Aug 2017 ~ 2024 Paris / 2028 LA announced as Host Cities (Without Inclusion of Surfing at this time)
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/paris-and-los-angeles-will-host-2024-and...

Sept 2018 ISA push for LA Olympic Surfing
https://www.surfertoday.com/surfing/isa-wants-surfing-in-the-los-angeles...
July 2021 ISA backs up Bid
https://www.infobae.com/aroundtherings/anoc-noc/2021/07/12/isa-reaffirms...

Sept 2021 US Bodysurfing inclusion deferred to 2032 / backed up by Oz
https://usabodysurfing.org/about/

Dec 2021 IOC accept LA Surfing Bid + ISA back Up!


https://isasurf.org/surfing-the-wave-to-olympic-permanency/

Feb 2022 IOC approve 2028 LA Olympic surfing as a core sport ( Receives Financial Windfall )
Meaning more disciplines can be added...
https://isasurf.org/isa-president-thrilled-with-ioc-session-approval-of-....
https://www.surfline.com/surf-news/surfing-confirmed-la-2028-olympics-be...

Commemorative Designated Host City Surfboard Souvenirs
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pcIAAOSwhA1mjzTd/s-l1600.jpg

https://la28.org/en/newsroom/Initial-Sport-Recommendations.html

{ Important } IOC only approved LA Olympic Surfing as a Core Sport.
Media Misrepresented this as IOC locking Surfing into Future Olympic Program!
Nowhere has IOC approved ongoing Surfing Approval for future Olympic Games.
Happy to share any such Doc if it exists...
ISA : " Confirm their Excitement to Potentially Showcase Surfing in 2032 Olympics!"
"Where Surfing is essential to Oz Gold Coast!"

Confirming that IOC LA Upgrade to Core Sport does not default approval for any Surfing Future!
Sure! Media can sell the dream to the masses but Olympic Surfing is not certified beyond 2028! Got it!

Official LA Olympic Surf Page
https://la28.org/en/games-plan/olympics/surfing.html

Blog
https://www.reddit.com/r/surfing/comments/s70rzv/2028_olympics_in_la/?rd...

Sept 2022 Huntington Host WSG Paris Olympic Ticket Comp
https://www.infobae.com/aroundtherings/articles/2022/09/18/california-dr...

Jan-March 2023 ISA welcome Parasurf for LA Olympics
https://isasurf.org/isa-welcome-los-angeles-2028-proposal-to-consider-pa...
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/para-surfing-one-step-away-from-inclusio...

May 2024 LA Olympics Longboard Inclusion bid
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/longboarding-could-be-included-in-the-20...

June/July 2024 Adaptive Surfing bid
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1146024/disappointment-para-surf...
https://www.surfertoday.com/surfing/adaptive-surfing-needs-to-be-in-the-...
https://www.surfer.com/news/victoria-feige-para-surfing-2028-la-olympics
https://beachgrit.com/2024/07/kelly-slater-leads-push-for-inclusion-of-p...
Petition
https://www.change.org/p/save-paralympic-surfing-la-2028

Following directly after Paris Surfing final > US Open of Surfing 2024 stokes up Olympic Quest!
Aug 2024 LA Surfing Olympic Windfall
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-08-02/olympic-surfing-set-f...
Aug 2024 Where should LA Host Olympic Surfing
https://www.surfer.com/news/where-surfing-la-2028-olympics
Aug 2024 LA Olympics / Hawaii option floated
No official LA Olympic Surfing Site has been selected or approved by IOC.

2025 LA deadline to decide Surfing Venue & Disciplines

Welcome to #1swellnet 2028 LA Olympic Surfing forum

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truebluebasher Saturday, 10 Aug 2024 at 2:51pm
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truebluebasher Friday, 4 Oct 2024 at 11:05am

2028 Paralympic Surfing bid ...digging in.
https://www.terracestandard.com/sports/bc-para-surfer-victoria-feige-lob...
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1148419/surf-inclusion-victoria-...

Once again Surfing is shooting itself in it's two left feet....reads head & missed again...well durr!
Olympics Surfing Epitaph ...forever the cheapest seat, bundled into the boot of last cab off the rank.
Off to who knows where the Surf Council point their bone next for which Tech mobster's back door grab!

Never on any Olympic promos...games...sports...maps...tickets...until 2 weeks out...200 VIPs show up!
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1146623/los-angeles-2028-additio...

See here..Visit California...(Can do everything in summer of '28 but go Surfing...Wotz that?)
Rot sets in early again ...as Tokyo > Paris > LA > Brisbane? (Be lucky to pull 500 VIPs total for the lot!)
https://www.visitcalifornia.com/experience/everything-you-need-know-abou...

Lost opportunities & Deals go begging
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/olympic-marketing-2-0-brands-060054795.html
https://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/story/2024-09-19/la-2028-olympic...

One can trip over endless LA Olympic promotions / Celebs but Surfing is not on the LA 28 Radar.
Even if some Corps are bustin' for breakthru...Surfing ain't even on LA Sports/Venue list...Wot/Where!

LA Hoisting Olympic Flags & busy burning and binning Asian Antiquities for VIP Sports Rorts!
Already at WAR with Olympic Surf Sista Japan & South Korea for trashin' cultural ties...FU...[SOLD]
https://www.dailynews.com/2024/09/13/mayor-says-many-in-las-korean-commu...

Olympic Athletes already locked in 100% and training for LA '28...
Surfers must wait for last minute Bookies Draw...which marketable US Teen crew get WOTD watches?

Leads us to the biggest question of all...
Why some 5 yr dry docked disabled Aussie is runnin' LA 28 Surf Campaign...well if not tbb...then who?

Where should the LA 2028 Olympics Hold the Surfing Event?...(The Wot Wot...just humour them!)
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/where-should-the-la-2028-olympics-hold-t...

Ok! Let's finish on a high...Salute these Promos presenting LA Surfing Hangs in all their Glory.

{ Discover Los Angeles }
https://www.discoverlosangeles.com/things-to-do/where-to-surf-in-los-ang...

Salute 'Rider Shack'...Good Job crew
https://www.ridershack.com/blog/surfing-in-los-angeles-a-rider-shack-gui...

BBC do LA with CC gotta luv that...Cheers!
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20240627-a-pro-surfers-guide-to-the-b...

Askin' for a friend...Best [L]A Surf Hangs
https://californiaglory.com/blogs/articles/surfing-la

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truebluebasher Saturday, 21 Dec 2024 at 8:21pm

21st Nov LA 2028 No Official Beach Venues : (Surfing / Coastal Rowing / Beach Volleyball)
So there's not much news on LA Venues > still plenty of options to bask in LA Gold Medal Glow.
https://www.sportstravelmagazine.com/city-of-l-a-report-asks-la28-for-re...

Most news comes in the way of o/s LA Training Venues, leaders and Sport Funding allocations.
Can skip to the bottom for LA 28 Games latest Surfing Comp Format news...

23rd Nov 2024 Gold Coast Australia World Champ Surfer's Palm Valley Wavepool
[3:00] Surf Organizations to train elite athletes > Perhaps even for 2028 Olympics

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29th Nov Skate + Rowing Australia [ $385,000 ] Win Well and Play Well LA 28 funding
https://www.skateaustralia.org.au/post/skate-australia-to-receive-fundin...
https://rowingaustralia.com.au/latest_news/rowing-australia-welcomes-fun...

13 Dec 2024 Brazil Olympic Silver Medal Skateboarder
Recall UK Sky Brown seeks to Qualify for LA Olympics Surf / Skate.
Like GC Champs / Kelly > Also believes Waveparks lend hope to progress Olympic Ideal.
https://www.surfer.com/news/eddie-aikau-invite-2024

16th Dec UK Surfing is funded as a [ Developing Sport] > Not a World Class Aquatic Sport!
GB Surfing has been awarded AUD $2.21m by UK Sport.
To support the development of elite British Surfers throughout the LA 2028 Olympic Cycle
https://www.facebook.com/britishsurfingteam/photos/the-continued-investm...

18th Dec NZ ( AUD $147.25m funding for LA 2028 )
Some Sports such as Surfing will get NO Funding! (Recall NZ surfers crowd funding previous Games)
https://au.news.yahoo.com/medals-matter-most-high-performance-020513408....

12-20th Dec ...ISA motion for increase in LA Olympic 24 / 24 Surfers > 36 / 36 Surfers
https://dukesurf.com/isa-pidio-extender-cantidad-de-surfers-olimpicos-de...
1st Quarter 2025 : Answer on Long Board LA 2028 Olympic inclusion

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truebluebasher Saturday, 22 Mar 2025 at 9:33pm

Welcome to 2025 first update.

Of interest after 2024 Isolated iconic Olympic Venue being...

4/5 World Champs / Olympic Medalist pulling out of Tour
Reduced 2025 CT Prizemoney
Defiant Inclusion of an Olympic Certified Wavepool on Tour
All contrary to Surfing's Olympic Ideal...one step forward 2 steps back!

Continues with Recap of 12th Dec ISA Meeting
* Extra Olympians from 2020/24 (24 m / 24w) > 36 m / 36w
* Long Board Inclusion quest of 16m /16w
* Total of 104 Surfboard Riding Olympians

Outcome is expected end of March 2025

Venue
* Wavepool ruled out for 2028
* Choice of 2 locations ( Lower Trestles / Huntington Pier )

Outcome in first Trimester 2025

9th Jan 2025 (Credits) Evan
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/la-2028-olympic-updates-surf-contest-venue/
or (Back Up)
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/important-la-2028-olympic-updates-185233...

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3rd Feb 2025 (Credit) Surfer
ISA Prez :
Lower Trestles
Bede Durbidge / Luke Egan

Huntington Beach Pier
Kanoa

https://www.surfer.com/news/potential-surfing-venues-la28-olympics
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1151695/la28-olympic-surfing-loc...

Detailed Review of both Venues
https://www.surfertoday.com/surfing/surfing-at-la-2028-lower-trestles-or...

Wavepool (Currently ruled out!)
Kelly / Italo

https://www.instagram.com/theinertia/p/DHUv7CLJWFU/?api=%E9%A9%AC%E6%9D%...

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/italo-ferreira-thinks-2028-olympics-2030...

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9th Jan 2025 Extra on LA 28 Olympic Surf/Skate Venues affected by Fires
https://www.thesportsexaminer.com/panorama-l-a-councils-park-pans-under-...

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23rd Jan (2024 Olympics) US Gold Medal Caroline Marks Surf Vid Montage Tribute.
https://www.olympics.com/en/video/us-surfer-caroline-marks-exclusive-my-...

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* Official Olympic Surf News
Dec 2021 (Backtrack) NGB Certification was relinquished
Credit to Surfer for explaining this inhouse Surf Political Anomaly!
https://www.surfer.com/news/usa-surfing-fight-official-olympic-approval

So yeah! This is a real thing alright...weird but needed to continue...
(Best if ya read these together) as tbb happened upon the later first...
Seeking the relevance...thanx to Surfer for covering this Anomaly in a timely manner!
So yeah! Crew can Zoom in on Live Hearings (Dates / Times below)
Happy to Share on behalf of swellnet crew...

{Public Notice} US Olympic & Paralymic committees
https://www.usopc.org/public-notices

11th March 2025 USA Surfing Certification of National Governing Body for Sport of Surfing
10th April Hearing
https://www.usopc.org/public-notices

13th March 2025 US Ski & Snowboard Certification of National Governing body for Sport of Surfing
15th April Hearing
https://www.usopc.org/public-notices

13th March 2025 US Ski & Snowboard Certification of Governing body for Sport of Skateboard
15th April Hearing
https://www.usopc.org/public-notices

Recap...if this looks & sounds weird...read above Companion Surfer feature Ok!

Upcoming Important Olympic LA 2028 Surfing Dates
* March / April : Awaiting for decision on Long Boards / Extra Competitors
* April : Hearing on US Olympic Surfing Certification
* April / May : Awaiting Choice of remaining 2 Venues

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Continues with outcomes for 3/4 official deadlines...( Olympic Size Bumper Issue! )
1/4 Ain't Bad...All say Aye!

9th April 2025
Olympic Surfing Longboard Inclusion ( Ruled Out )
Olympic Surfing Extra Competitors ( Ruled Out )
ISA thanked & acknowledged IOC focus on Gender Equality behind both decisions.
ISA look forward to working closely with IOC and BOC 2032 to highlight sport's value on Olympic Stage.
https://isasurf.org/isa-statement-on-ioc-decision-not-to-include-longboa...
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1152770/longboard-misses-la28-ri...

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15th April 2025 US NGB Battle ( Hearing Ruling > 15th May )
Crew may be interested to know (Rival) USSS CEO is Former WSL CEO Sophie Goldschmidt
Read more Here as it plays out ...gaining quite a head of steam..
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/usa-olympic-surfing-us-ski-and-snowboard/
https://www.thesportsexaminer.com/surfing-fascinating-battle-underway-as...
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1152885/usa-surfing-defends-its-...
https://www.theinertia.com/opinion/usa-surfing-olympic-representation/
https://shop-eat-surf-outdoor.com/press-releases/usa-surfing-speaks-out-...

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15th April 2025 : LA 28 Olympic Surfing Venue (This is the Long awaited Big News)
tbb loaded all yer US Surf Mags...
ISA Applauds Confirmation of Trestles as the Olympic Venue
Decision was based on priority (Quality & consistency of Waves!)
https://isasurf.org/isa-president-applauds-confirmation-of-trestles-as-v...
https://www.olympics.com/en/news/iconic-trestles-beach-host-surfing-la28...
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/2028-olympic-surfing-lower-trestles/
https://www.olympics.com/en/news/champion-surfer-mick-fanning-olympics-c...
https://beachgrit.com/2025/04/breaking-lowers-selected-as-site-for-la28-...
#1 swellnet 2032 Oz Olympic crew celebrate with 2028 US Olympic crew
https://stabmag.com/news/lower-trestles-announced-as-2028-olympic-surfin...
https://www.surfertoday.com/surfing/lower-trestles-named-official-surfin...

Surfer : Nuke Waste Dump
https://www.surfer.com/news/olympic-surfing-americas-largest-nuclear-was...

Of course ya get an LA 28 Olympic Surf Vid Gallery...Yew!
tbb will try for all inclusive Olympic Ideal Cultural Surf Session...

ISA Olympic Promo

California State Parks

Everyone requested one of them Hometown Kook US News reports...Thank God for Team USA.

Equally the crew requested a shit Hot locals Only Trestles Vid...Yes Please...

Upcoming Dates
15th May 2025 Ruling on the Big Deal for US Surfers (Good luck with that Team USA!)

(Bumper Issue Bonus Alt Olympic Ideal Vidz for #1swellnet Olympic Surf crews...)

Wavepool Dictators

Surfing Oz Irukandjis (Trestles Tribute!)

Sky Brown : LA 28 Gold Mining Venture
https://www.olympics.com/en/video/sky-brown-on-twin-gold-aims-for-la-in-...

Came upon this unique Historical Promotion for LA 28 Olympics..
A poem about Black Surfers and the feeling of Water as a place for Liberation and Life
https://nds.shootonline.com/nds-video/la28-surf-x-la-olympics-2028/

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truebluebasher Monday, 8 Sep 2025 at 7:52pm

Recapping that LA28 Olympic Surfing Venue was Announced...
It's only fair that we run the Alt Huntington argument before pushing on..
Why Did the LA 2028 Olympics Pass on Huntington Beach, Hawaii, and Wave Pools?
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/why-did-la-2028-olympics-181324224.html
https://www.facebook.com/groups/HuntingtonBeachCommunityForum/posts/3937...


https://www.reddit.com/r/surfing/comments/1jzy9fr/trestles_announced_as_...
https://stabmag.com/news/how-lowers-became-the-2028-olympic-surfing-venue/

Ok! Since Venue announcement > Crew may have noticed an Olympic Surfing Promo Vacuum...
ISA bids Failed
tbb explained the fight for USA Surfing is very much in play...there are no winners...
Yes! We all see Olympics / Surfing being the loser...
(This edition addresses & updates these 'Ongoing' Olympic issues!)

swellnet 2032 Olympic crew are stoked to back up USA Surfing during a tough period!
Sure...we'll keep the bumper issues coming...Oz crew are happy to help out...we got yer back!
This is a neutral Olympic Surfing Site with No Sponsors & No hidden agenda...
Likewise it's cost neutral & run by anonymous volunteers...happy to share the luv of surfing!
You'll occasionally see back up links...nothing more than keeping links open to LA28
Likely lose more with SM subscription news restrictions + ongoing US / Oz Age Verification
USA surf fans can trust yer surf buddies to step up & keep LA28 on track & restore the Flow...Chill!
Right...we got plenty of Ideal LA28 Surf News...Go for it!

LA 28 Venue Map ( Continues Theme of Wiping Surfing off any / every Olympic Map )
No! This was never intended but tbb has long exampled ISA Ideal shooting of it's 2 Left feet!
Should 2032 Feature Boardriding ...then Invisible Surfing falls further off the Olympic Map.
Seachange Olympic Venues never feature on City Venue Maps > (Isolated VIP Surf Ticketing + Promos)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/dodger-stadium-to-host-baseball-w...
2028 Los Angeles Olympics will feature surfing outside of updated venue plan!
Surfing will be at Trestles Beach, a renowned collection of surfing spots between northern San Diego County and southern San Clemente in Orange County, about an hour’s drive south of downtown Los Angeles

20 May : Slater WSL Wild Card @ LA28 Olympic Venue
https://www.olympics.com/en/news/surfing-legend-kelly-slater-2025-compet...

4 June Sponsor named for US Championship / Trestles (22-26th June 2025)
https://www.hoag.org/press-room/hoag-named-title-sponsor-of-usa-surfing-...
https://www.usasurfing.org/usa-surfing-news/hoag-named-title-sponsor-of-...

9 June Long Board Olympic Bid Fail
https://www.si.com/onsi/adventure/latest-news/longboarding-cut-from-la-2...

12 June ISA Statement on Los Angeles 2028 decision not to propose Para Surfing for inclusion in Paralympic Games
https://isasurf.org/isa-statement-on-los-angeles-2028-decision-not-to-pr...

9-17 June Lexus Trestles Pro
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/events/2025/ct/327/lexus-trestles-pro/main
Olympic Surfing Venue entices Locals Mathew / Lauren to Visit a WSL Trestles Surf Comp
This is a rare unedited honest local review of Olympians competing in their town...Cool Comments.

26 June Olympic Sized Erosion

27 June USA Surfing gets new financial backing in a bid to be recertified for its hometown Olympics
Olympic Funding > see also : (18 July USAS + 2 Aug ISA + 23 Aug USAS + 1 Sept USAS )
https://thecoronadonews.com/2025/06/usa-surfing-gets-new-financial-backi...
https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/06/26/usa-surfing-gets-new-financial-ba...
USA Surfing is reapplying to be the NGB again, but the U.S. Ski & Snowboard Federation has also applied to manage the Olympic surf team. The well-funded winter sports organization is run by Sophie Goldschmidt, the former chief executive of the World Surf League.

3 July International Surfing Museum (Olympic Sized Relocation) re: Trestles / Pop Up Exhibit? Dunno!
Even though Lower Trestles, just south of San Clemente, was selected instead, the idea for a bigger museum space stuck, needed as a draw for the millions of visitors expected with the Olympics and the World Cup coming to the Los Angeles and Orange County area in coming years, Townend said.
https://www.ocregister.com/2025/07/03/huntington-beach-city-officials-ex...
https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/story/2025-07-02/huntingt...
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sunsetmesasurfskaters/posts/398286430197...

18 July Who should govern surfing LA28? USA Surfing, U.S. Ski and Snowboarding make their pitch
https://www.ocregister.com/2025/07/18/who-should-govern-surfing-for-la28...
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/07/22/usa-surfing-us...

18 July Acjachemen Nation Seeks Recognition for 2028 Olympic Surfing Venue
https://www.khon2.com/news/national/la28-olympic-surfing-venue-sits-on-s...
Alt back up Version included...
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/acjachemen-nation-seeks-recognition-for-...
The Acjachemen people have a deep relationship with the region, dating back 9,600 years. However, as Fox 5 San Diego reports, Acjachemen Tribal Chairman Nathan Banda says the tribe was not consulted in the process of selecting Trestles as the site for the venue.

The tribe initiated outreach to Olympic organizers, but has yet to receive a response.
However, that does not mean that the tribe is entirely opposed to the Olympic event. “We’re excited that this historic event will be taking place in our tribal territory, and it will afford us the opportunity to help educate the Olympics organization as a whole, along with visitors coming from all over the world, about our protocols and our people, and for them to be able to be immersed in our culture and educated,” concluded Banda.

21 July LA 2028: What’s Next For GB Surfing?
https://wavelengthmag.com/olympic-surfing-england-gb/

2-5 Aug : ISA president says sport's invite to LA28 ensures 'much-need cash infusion'
https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/surfing-set-for-olympic-cash-infusion...
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/08/05/olympic-surfing/

End Aug 2025 Olympic Surfing spectators (Isolated Olympic Venues restricted to VIP Lotteries)
Seen as an elusive Ideal CEO yuppie sport...far removed from the common man!
https://www.reddit.com/r/olympics/comments/1myxitk/only_just_realised_this/

20 Aug 2025 Irukandjis Team
Sally Fitzgibbons, Ellie Harrison, Milla Brown / Morgan Cibilic, Callum Robson, Dane Henry
https://surfingvic.com/2025-australian-irukandjis-surfing-team-annouced/
https://surfingvic.com/2025-australian-irukandjis-surfing-team-annouced/

26 Aug Finland Olympic Surf Team hire Californian Coach!
https://www.surfertoday.com/surfing/matt-myers-surf-team-finland-head-coach

23 Aug 2025
San Clemente backs USA Surfing in competing bids to oversee the Olympic sport
https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/entertainment/story/2025-08-23...
https://www.usasurfing.org/usa-surfing-news/san-clemente-voices-support-...

30 Aug Hong Kong request lifting Surf Ban for LA 28 Olympic Training
https://www.scmp.com/sport/china/article/3323694/hong-kong-surfers-urge-...

1st Sept 2025 Olympic turf war
USAS CEO Becky Fleischauer (vs) USSS CEO Sophie Goldschmidt
https://laist.com/brief/news/us-olympic-surfing-governing-board-battle
Beach brawl: Ski group wants to control Olympic surfing at 2028 LA Games, but surfers aren't on board
https://laist.com/news/us-olympic-surfing-governing-board-battle

Kanga said the snow group is “ trying to ski-jack the crown jewels of surfing away from the surfing world.”
Ian (Kanga) Cairns and a number of other pro surfers are throwing their weight behind USA Surfing, the comparatively scrappy organization that trains and develops young surfers with Olympic dreams. The San Clemente-based nonprofit — which helped make surfing an Olympic sport to begin with — is not giving up its chance to represent Olympic athletes without a fight.

5 Sept : Mexico's First Olympic Surfer
https://www.olympics.com/en/news/mexico-world-surfing-games-champion-ala...

8 Sept : Olympic Greek LA Trestles Surfing Connect

8 Sept : Sky Brown Olympic Boardriding Promos

2025 ISA World Games El Salvador / LA28 Olympic Seeding Comp for 2026 > Qualifications
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