Bryce Young: Liner Notes

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By Stu Nettle (stunet)

Bryce Young: Liner Notes

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Stu Nettle (stunet)
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Past experience tells me Bryce Young ain't easy to catch on the phone. In 2017, while finishing a feature for The Surfers Journal, it took five days and fifteen calls till he answered. Purchasing Taylor Swift tickets would've been easier, or so I'm told.

This time he's got his own feature to promote - the new film 'Following the Fall Line' - yet he remains elusive as ever. Though frustrating for a journalist, elusiveness is a trait that I grudgingly admire: we're too on call these days, time away from the phone or from prying media is a good thing.

Besides, experience also told me that when I got him it'd be worth the effort. And it was.

Lastly, though already long, the passage on Ryan Burch has been heavily edited down. We both worship at the altar of RB, considering him a visonary akin to Simmons or Greenough, and an enthusiastic rave followed. The full extract might see the light of day soon.

(All photos taken from 'Following The Fall Line')

The Old Boy:
No matter who or what they’ve done, everybody’s dad is just their dad, you know what I mean? He’s just Dad, and we have a normal, loving father and son relationship - same as I see elsewhere. Yet I always had an idea, even from a very young age, of the things he’d done within surfing. None of that went over my head; none of it escaped me. 

Now I’m older, I’m sort of a student of surf history, and the main source of my understanding has been through my dad. Means I see him as just Dad, but also admire him for the things he’s done. It’s nothing complex though, there’s a simple relationship between us.

Competition:
I'm very competitive in sports. If it's ping pong or tennis or anything like that, I'm super competitive, but I’m not competitive in surfing. Contests feel so far away from what the act of surfing is for me.

I admire a lot of the surfers on tour - guys like John John and Jordy I consider to be the best in the world. But it's so subjective - beauty in the eye of the beholder. I get what contests are - I even used to do a few - but they’re such a small thing among a big, broader, more special thing.

Longboarding:
I love longboarding, man. I did the longboard tour when I was a grom for, I think, five years. It wasn't much of a tour back then. In fact, it was only one stop for the first three or four years. One contest to decide the world champ!

These days I ride all sorts of boards, but right now I'm an infatuated longboarder. The last really good session I had was on a log. It’s been virtually flat for the last few weeks but I’ve been on the log, riding it so much. Love it.

The First Time I Saw Burch Surf:
Desert Point in 2013. I was pretty much floored, awestruck. Generally when I rock up to a wave I’m so frothing to surf that I just go, but that was the only time somebody stopped me in my tracks and made me watch.

It was pretty small Deserts, but building really fast. Up the top of Deserts it's fast at the best of times, but it was a tricky new swell and it was extra quick. There was a ten pack of guys surfing and no-one made any waves - they were getting nuked by falling sections - until Burch got to his feet. He appeared to be toying with it, doing bottom turns out in the flats around the bits of reef that people couldn't get past.

They were some of the best bottom turns I'd ever seen, and then he’d do the sickest top turn I'd ever seen. It was the one and only time I’ve been rendered motionless, in such awe that I ignored the waves and stopped and watched someone. It was a real pleasure to watch but it took me a while to absorb what it was he was doing. 

He was riding a twin fin pickle fork, asymmetrical, a full R&D machine. Earlier that year, he’d built a big batch for an art show - carbon rails, stringerless construction - and displayed the whole quiver at a place in Encinitas. Then he basically took them off the wall and put them in coffin bags and flew to Indo to go and test them all, which was when I met him.

He was rolling with fifteen boards. I couldn’t believe it! "You've got what? Another board bag..?" I was like, "Who the fuck is this guy?" Just genuinely in awe of him.

At that stage, I didn’t know what was going to follow, but it was one of the pivotal moments of my surfing life. We weren’t yet close friends, but after that trip he ended up coming straight back to Angourie and he helped me clean the home farm bay out, and we started building boards together. Special times.

Alaias:
Something that trips me out with alaias is that a lot of crew that rode them, and this is going back fifteen years, have hung up their hat. They’re kind of done with them. I don’t feel that way at all. I sometimes think we're only just scratching the surface with those things. 

I build them with a pretty traditional planshape. They always come out a bit different because it’s wood and it can depend on how you feel with a tool in your hand that day. It's like sometimes a mistake can be something quite good in the end, once you’ve ridden the thing.

There’s no need to reinvent the wheel with them. I've tried to cut really different outlines and they go like a pile. Simple is always best with alaias, and that's what I love most about them.

From The Ashes Of The Black Summer:
It’s very personal stuff. It took time to think about how we’d include it in the film, but we had to tell the story because to skip over something of that magnitude meant we wouldn’t have been telling the whole story.

A lot was lost out there in 2019. That home was forever the cornerstone of our family. For us, it was sacred ground, and the emotional recovery has been really hard. I struggled for some time after that, which I think is only natural. Did a lot of travel to get away and couldn't even really face going out there for some time.

And then I had that feeling, can’t remember when it was, but it was like the opposite of wanting to be away. "I need to get home now. That's where I need to be."

What isn’t in the film is that I was three years into my own build out there. It was on a completely different part of the property than our home front that was lost. It was not nearly as grandiose in design; just a simple longhouse all timber pole construction. Burch and I had been building it together on and off for three or four years. We were just putting a roof on it and it was also lost.

So much loss, but I guess there’s been a lot of growth too. I'm in a pretty decent space with it now. The place is forever in me and I'm grateful for that and I just have to hold it in a different way. They're the lessons that I've learned.

But we're going onwards and upwards, mate. We're trying to do our old place justice and tip the hat to it with a new build. And we're actually getting really close to moving back out. Yeah, we've almost got our new place built.

Home:
I'm in constant awe of the Northern Rivers, and just incredibly grateful to have been brought up here. The community we have is tight-knit and I feel fortunate to be a part of this community. I’ve traveled a bit and I'm just so glad that my home happens to be this corner of the world.

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Andrew P Thursday, 20 Jul 2023 at 7:33pm

Thanks for the perspective Stu. Wishing Bryce and his family (Young and old) all the best for the future

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goofyfoot Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 6:19am

Curious how he makes a living, is he paid to surf?
Looks like he just floats around the world doing as he pleases. Which would be fun.
I'm genuinely interested in how "freesurfers" like Bryce survive day to day.
Before this month his last Instagram post was in 2019, how do sponsors get value for money from that?
Does he live at home still with the parents? That would help.
I sound like a boring old fart but genuinly interested!

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dandandan Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 8:05am

I always find that interesting too, and I think the general surfing population does as well. I remember how relatable it was when Laurie Towner, who was already well loved, would talk about getting stuck back into an apprenticeship and living in the same economic world as the rest of us. Given that "work" is generally an enormous part of a person's life - surfing life included - I find not knowing how they make rent or put food on the table (let alone everything else) leaves big parts of a story up in the air.

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ryder Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 8:47am

When I read 'Nat's Nat and That's That' I wondered how Nat had all this money to buy land and build houses. It intrigued me then, and now I wonder the same thing with Bryce. He seems to be a 'chip off the old block' so to speak, but how does he do what he does? Are the entire Young clan descendant's of British royalty or something?

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Distracted Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 3:02pm

Ryder, those hinterland areas used to be pretty cheap to buy in years ago. Certainly not now!

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Bungan33 Saturday, 22 Jul 2023 at 12:56pm

He owned the Fall Line surf shop in Mona Vale - and a nice house opposite the valley from me - so some assets - then started an accommodation at Angourie which is sweet....and would have gone mental in terms of value

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dazzler Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 10:27am

Reasonable amount of seasonal horticultural jobs in the northern rivers from macadamia, blueberries, bananas, soy bean & sugar cane to think of a few.

I used to cover the northern rivers in previous & these industries were always struggling to get staff during peak season.

I know of one producer who built a 300 bed workers camp as the local community was unable to provide sufficient numbers.

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udo Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 10:42am

Sponsored Free Surfer Long Term with Vissla now with Needs

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udo Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 10:56am
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philosurphizing... Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 1:01pm

Plenty of ways to make a living on the Northern Rivers.
Neighbour down the road grows an exotic type of bamboo that tastes similar to asparagus, sells it at a good price to the top restaurants.

My brother is currently collecting Black Bean seeds, sells to a bloke who grows Bonsai trees, I have also heard the pharmaceutical industry buys the seeds as they have some sort of anti inflammatory quality.

Neighbour in the valley west of me has a licence to grow low THC hemp to make CBD oil.
Heard a few whispers from various people this can be a very very good money maker.

Then there is tick collecting in springtime, when I started collecting prices were as low as 60 cents, whereas now with climate change affecting their breeding cycle, prices have been as high as $4.50.

Bryce mentions he is building a house on his parents farm.
You can save a fortune on timber if you get someone in with a portable mill to mill fire damaged and fallen trees.
Some people with portable mills will even barter logs for milling costs.

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Gowsa Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 12:36pm

Im the same, these guys are always travelling, have a quiver, but no sponsors or Job.
Its like all those blokes that have Neck Tattoos and live in Western Sydney (haha)

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Island Bay Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 6:30am

Thank you, Stu and SN.

The Alaia part blew me away. Had a go on one myself ages ago, and bloody hell they're not easy to paddle.

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udo Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 7:15am

IB check out Good Woodz - utube
And Rocky Rocky by Vissla - GreatTwinfin Surfing

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dandandan Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 8:08am

+1 for wanting to read the entire gushing over Burch's surfing. Fascinating to know that already incredible surfers can be stopped dead in their tracks by what someone else is doing.

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Alex Papas Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 8:12am

the public demands the unabridged Burch section!!

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ryder Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 8:50am

I was stopped in my tracks back in the early 90's watching the dream team of Margo, Occy and Luke Egan surfing very good Chinaman's in an expression session during a Billabong Pro Jnr event at Yorkes.

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seeds Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 1:39pm

Can someone explain the point(s) of the pickle fork nose.

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stunet Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 3:05pm

Udo, largely covered it below, but the basic explanation is it allows a straighter outline forward, which keeps area in the nose of the board. This also helps on the heel side rail, which is shorter on Burch's boards cos it's cutaway near the tail, so full rail heel side turns are easier.

Also, you really need to see the underside of them to understand why he's done a twin tip and not, say, just squared off the nose (which would still allow the parallel outline and forward area). There's a scoop underneath between the tips which allows each tip to act as an off-centre nose, helping avoid nosedives on late knifing drops.

That's the theory anyway.

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udo Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 3:13pm
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goofyfoot Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 3:49pm

They might be functional but they make a board very unattractive

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udo Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 2:40pm

What’s the benefit of a pickle-forked nose?

It compliments my asymmetrical boards, which are really narrow—18 inches wide—and don’t have a lot of curve in the outline. So the nose helps extend the straightness of the rail line. Lately I’ve been doing split-tail boards that have twin fins and a pickle-fork nose. The width in the nose creates balance, but the cut-away between the points in the nose helps when you get them in the air on late drops.

Ryan was not the First to do them ...

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seeds Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 3:38pm

Thanks guys. Interesting. Anyone got a pic of the scoop?

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udo Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 3:42pm

Pic 2 in 1st Alexander insta

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Island Bay Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 3:47pm

I'm still skeptical of the 'swallow nose'. You could have a squarish or blunt nose with the same channel/scoop on the bottom without those two awful points. On a swallowtail it's to reduce surface area, but thats a moot point in the nose.

But yeah, Burch is a magician.

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Dumai Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 4:19pm

“ Contests feel so far away from what the act of surfing is for me “
Preach it brother
Amen

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tsunalu Friday, 21 Jul 2023 at 8:39pm

Forked nose, forked tounge, who knows? Fuck nose!

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Clam Monday, 14 Aug 2023 at 8:33am

I saw n met Jeff alexander was in g-land about 1996 and everyone was sceptical but he could surf pretty good and he made em work.