Ryan Scanlon: The Reluctant Captain

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By Stu Nettle (stunet)

Ryan Scanlon: The Reluctant Captain

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Ryan Scanlon spent ten years at Quiksilver when it was the biggest and most influential surf company in the world. The work was creative and demanding, and his coping method was to tap out every few years and “live the lifestyle Quiksilver were selling.”

When the company fell into a heap, Ryan started his own one-man operation to pay the bills while maintaining his freedom. Despite distancing himself from the industry he knew, needessentials inadvertently became the prototype for regeneration in the surf industry.


The pre-dawn air bites as Ryan Scanlon trudges across the frost-covered paddock, gumboots crushing grass beneath his feet.

While the surf might be pumping at Bells and Winki, just seven kilometres to the south-west, he's got farm work before school. 

The Scanlon's Connewarre family farm is shrouded in fog but he can just make out a glow emanating from Torquay –  home to surf industry titans Rip Curl and Quiksilver. The same distance that takes fifteen minutes to drive is a distant world to the then-teenage farm boy, hands raw from manual labour. 

The contrast between the neighbouring towns couldn't be more stark. Sure, farmers greet the day as early as any eager dawn patroller, but there the similarities end. Where one town throbs with the energy of Australia's surf industry, the other moves to rhythms unchanged since his grandfather's time. 

"I saw the surf industry as a great alternative," Ryan says today, a wry smile across his face. "Much better than the endless muddy grind of farm work." 

What Ryan didn’t know then, watching Torquay's radiant light from the family farm, was that he'd not only break into that world, witnessing first-hand its many successes and failures, but ultimately he’d help reshape it too.

Ryan pilots a 7'6" single fin through a Winkipop bottom turn. His penchant for longer equipment pre-dates surfers' recent fascination with mid-lengths.

The surf industry, for its part, was on somewhat of a tear as Ryan gravitated towards it. Ten years earlier it was all fluoro and checker print, but the eighties surf boom imploded in a neon heap, taking with it Gotcha, the world’s biggest and loudest surf company. Investors waved red flags - ‘lightning can’t strike twice’, they said - and yet the air was once again crackling with electricity. 

Billabong rebranded behind Jack McCoy's groundbreaking films. Rip Curl launched The Search, tapping into surfers' inexhaustible wanderlust. While Quiksilver signed Kelly Slater and watched their fortunes soar with each world title. When they added Lisa Anderson and launched Roxy, the Torquay start-up doubled their market and redefined what a surf company could be.

The surf industry was again marvelled as an unsinkable economic wonder. The founders of each company feted in the financial pages as the captains of a billion dollar industry: Alan Green and John Law from Quiksilver, Doug Warbrick and Brian Singer at Rip Curl, Rena and Gordon Merchant at Billabong. Their origin stories written into Australia’s wider surf history. 

That said, Ryan’s path into the industry was slightly more mundane: manning the till at the local surf shop one day a week. For Ryan, time behind the counter at Strapper Surfboards did at least provide enlightening conversation. One afternoon in 1994, Peter Troy, the legendary surfer-explorer who'd discovered Nias almost two decades earlier, wandered in and began chatting with the young shop assistant. 

Troy spoke of exotic waves on unexplored costs and no-one was better qualified to know. The world was immeasurably large; whole island chains were yet to be explored by surfers. 

The teenage Ryan filed that information away, and we’ll do likewise with it for now. 

The customer may not always be right, but when that customer is Peter Troy you listen to what he says and you take notes for future reference. At left, the pre-digital payoff for listening to your elders, and right, Ryan on a food run to the nearest village.

The farmer's son had always been good with his hands. He thought in pictures yet had the ability to make his imagination material. Design school at Warnambool was the next logical step, and it was there that he caught the eye of Quiksilver's Peter Webb, the artistic force behind the ‘Ghetto Dog’ and ‘Warpaint’ campaigns that saw surfing transition from beach culture to street fashion. 

“The whole world was changing visually, getting more street oriented,” wrote Webb in ‘The Mountain And The Wave’. 

There were other changes too. Ryan arrived at Quiksilver just as the art world was undergoing a seismic shift. Quiksilver's art rooms were transforming. Where celebrated artists such as Webb, Simon Buttonshaw, and Clayton Barr once stood at easels, hand-painting designs that defined surf culture, sleek computer monitors now hummed. The digital revolution had arrived and Ryan found himself straddling two worlds once again.

"When I got to Quiksilver in '97, the artists were still painting by hand," Ryan recalls, "but within a year, everything had gone digital.” Binary code in place of acrylics and oils. 

It was a tough adjustment for some yet Ryan's timing was impeccable. “There weren't many people that could think creatively like an artist and drive a computer as well - at that moment people with that skill set were rare.” Ryan quickly ingratiated himself in the company as an artist and designer who could also work in the digital space. 

Simon Buttonshaw, at left, surrounded by Quiksilver art (The Mountain And The Wave) 

Now, about that chat with Peter Troy… 

After making a mental map of Troy’s conversation, Ryan and friend Michael Cartwright, then both 18-years old, consulted an atlas and saw Nias sitting offshore from Western Sumatra. They also saw island chains to the north and south of Nias which were presumably exposed to the same south-westerly swells.

Though first surfed in 1983, the Mentawais were still a little-known prospect in the mid-nineties. The captain of the MV Indies Trader, Martin Daly, was running exploratory trips including a trickle of pro surfers and photographers. The subsequent photos made their way to a willing surf media. 

Between Nias and the Mentawais, however, sat many other islands and neither Ryan nor Michael had heard anything about them. There was no more to it: they bought tents, a water purifier, and enough rice for two months. 

“We got to Nias and then took a fishing boat south from there,” says Ryan, and they may as well have been sailing off the edge of the known world. “We had a magical time, just two naive young idiots fumbling our way through Western Sumatra, scoring incredible, untouched waves along the way.” 

Ryan and Michael did three more trips together, each time for a few months, and they also went alone or with other people too. “We ended up spending a lot of time up there in that period from the mid to late-nineties.” 

“It’s amazing to look back on now,” says Ryan wistfully, “just surfing without any people or any influence from Western civilization, in a really untouched part of the world with its own rich culture, and an environment devoid of plastics or pollution.” Devoid of surf resorts too.

There's melancholy in the re-telling. "We had absolutely no idea how quickly things would change. A part of me thinks, ‘Geez, I was lucky to experience that - to see the world before that global shift happened’."

Regardless, traveling and exploration became a recurring theme, interjected between bouts of bottom-line corporatism. A legacy of those early travels, if we’re to look for it, is that later films Ryan was involved in refrained from further sign-posting. No place names, even if they’re obvious, the only reference point being the ocean basin.

Ryan, at left, Batu Islands, 1995: "We would often stay in local's houses or in tents above the tide line. Long pants and tops had to be on by sunset and you had to douse yourself in toxic mozzie repellent to avoid malaria"; centre, island hopping courtesy of the local fishermen; right, Ryan's barrel sense captured by a first-gen disposable water camera.

“I think I had a good work ethic from my days on the farm,” says Ryan recalling his relentless early morning starts at Connewarre, “but mostly I was just lucky to be in the right place at the right time.” 

“It wasn’t just that Ryan had a good worth ethic,” explains Simon Buttonshaw, “but he also has a unique level of self-confidence. He’s smart and he virtually created the role he fulfilled.” 

All of which meant that, despite leaving Quiksilver in 1998 on an indefinite break, the company still required his services. In late 2000, while again in the outer reaches of Indonesia he received an email from HQ offering him the position of Head of Design in Torquay. He was 23-years old and with his travel budget exhausted he accepted the position and bought a ticket home. 

In the first years of the new millennium, the surf industry began to transform. Most notably, Billabong went public, beginning a spree of acquisitions that would make a corporate raider blush. Not to be outdone, Quiksilver followed suit and the two Australian-born companies locked into a global arms race throwing Wall Street money at what was once just fun in the sun.

The company that had started in a Torquay garage was becoming a global powerhouse. Green and Law, the founders who used to walk the office floor and, says Ryan, “made Quiksilver feel like a family company,” were now rarely sighted. Meanwhile, the epicenter of power shifted to California, with increasing influence from Europe, as the Australian office became a satellite office in its own empire. 

“I'd sit in Quiksilver’s corporate boardroom in Los Angeles,” observes Ryan, “surrounded by people with material wealth and assets, yet some of them were really challenged in spirit and mind. Then after corporate burnout I'd leave that world for stints in remote areas - living the lifestyle we were selling - and I’d meet people with minimal material possessions but incredible knowledge and connection to nature and community."

"They had wealth of another kind," says Ryan, ”It was an amazing lesson." 

By 2008, the fault lines were showing. On one hand, surf fashion was increasingly on the nose and the shift in taste revealed an uncomfortable truth: the industry's extravagant wealth had largely been built on the backs of non-surfers, so when they stopped wearing the clothes, sales plummeted. Then came the Global Financial Crisis, catching companies over-extended and over-confident. 

Ryan didn't feel those early tremors as he was on yet another year-long hiatus, this time rambling through South America. When he returned, however, he watched it all from an unusual vantage point – a 34-foot sailboat moored in Newport Harbor, California. As Senior Vice President of Global Products, he was in the figurative engine room while the boardroom above him took on water. The company was still reeling from an ill-fated $700 million acquisition of French ski company Rossignol – sold three years later for just $37 million – in what would prove to be the beginning of a long, painful descent into bankruptcy.

His time in California was beneficial, however, as Ryan worked closely on wetsuit production and also with Kelly Slater on his short-lived label VSTR. The boardroom eventually drew a red line through VSTR, with Kelly promptly putting an end to he and Quiksilver’s 23-year relationship. Six months later Kelly struck out on his own with Outerknown. 

By that stage, Ryan had already left Quiksilver, although he didn’t quite know what he was going to do next. He sailed his boat home through New Caledonia and New Zealand, and thought about his future.  

“Sailing is slow,” says Ryan, “you only go at walking pace. You get a lot of time to think.”

"All I knew was that I'd left the surf industry," he says of his decision to cut ties with Quiksilver, "and this time I wasn't going back.”

"I was immensely grateful for the amazing journey Quiksilver had led me on," says Ryan of his departure, "and the people I had learnt from. It truly was a unique time to experience, but the climate had shifted."

When he finally dropped anchor in Yamba - a short stopover that’s lasted twelve years - he lent on his skill set and made a small run of  wetsuits. “I warehoused them in the back of my Hiace van, and if I got an order I'd take the dinghy to shore, grab the wetsuit and take it to the post office to send.” 

Not only did the wetsuits have no swing tags, no printing, and no packaging, they also had no name. “At the time I didn't want a brand," Ryan insists, "I didn't want to be a businessman. I just wanted to create a small sustainable income doing something real.” 

“I just made a supply chain that didn’t exist," continues Ryan, "something that was a culmination of my own needs, skills, and beliefs around consuming less. I had the knowledge to build the best wetsuits, I just didn’t want all the noise."

The concept was simple: Make the best products, cut out the retail and wholesale mark ups plus the branding and fads, so they cost half the price, then sell them directly to like-minded people. 

But sometimes, as the saying goes, the universe has other plans. Here he was, actively trying to avoid creating a brand, yet the digital world wasn’t having it. A website needs a name and www.plainblackwetsuits.com wasn't going to cut it. 

And so needessentials was born – albeit reluctantly. In a small act of defiance the word mark was written in Helvetica, the world's most common font. No logo. No flashy graphics. The antithesis of everything the corporate surf world stood for. 

"Even as a kid I was sceptical of branding, says Ryan. “I'm okay with people doing what appeals to them, but for me, obvious logos and branding isn’t something I wanted to promote."

"Instead," says Ryan, "I believe in investing in products. It’s important that the materials and workmanship are of the highest grade and it performs the task. Branding doesn’t contribute to that.”

Though it involves jumping ahead of the storyline it’s worth passing the talking stick back to Simon Buttonshaw for a moment. 

“It’s not quite true that he doesn’t have a logo,” explains Simon. “The word mark is his logo. That’s a literal take on it, but conceptually it’s more complex, and also more interesting. He’s created a brand where the act itself: the people who surf, the music, the boards, all of that stuff, that’s the art.” 

It’s worth keeping in mind that Simon is a visual artist, working mostly in static form, but he bears no grudge at those mediums being superseded and that the ‘story’ he once told via graphics in surf magazines is now being told via video on the internet.

“The surfers at needessentials are the creative artists,” says Simon expressively, “and it’s beautifully documented.” 

The art of needessentials. Torren Martyn (surfer), Ishka Folkwell (filmer), and Simon Jones (shaper) collaborating in a timeless moment from 'Calypte'.

Despite the lack of branding, Ryan’s suits spoke for themselves: quality materials, no frills, and at half the market price. His first range featured a 3/2 steamer for $180 in a market where $300 was standard, and premium higher again.

Rather than releasing new and improved lines each calendar year, the ranges continued until there was no more stock. Shunning the seasonal schedule meant suits weren't dumped on sale in rummage bins. They sold until they were sold out - and sold out they did. 

“Those first few years, it was just me,” says Ryan who stretched Michael Tomson’s maxim about 'size being the enemy of cool' to its singular limit. “I took it slow, though with the interest around I could’ve easily expanded quicker.” 

"I love the beginnings of things a lot more than later on, when they become huge," says Simon Buttonshaw, describing Ryan’s new venture. "There's nothing there at the beginning and you're bringing it into existence – that's really good fun. It takes a lot of guts though." 

Ryan started seeing a woman who lived at Byron Bay and began traveling north from Yamba to spend time with her. That storyline runs into a private chapter that continues to this day, but during the trips to Byron another relationship formed. 

“I’d go up to Byron Bay and occasionally watch this guy move through the lineups with effortless grace," says Ryan. "So effortless it was like most people hadn’t noticed him.” 

Torren Martyn was raised in Suffolk Park by a single mother and his grandmother. When he was noticed by Ryan, Torren was working as a swimming teacher and also working part-time in the warehouse of another surf company. Hearing that Torren and good mate and filmmaker Ishka Folkwell were about to document a trip around Australia, Ryan gave them some wetsuits and petrol money.  

Eight years and as many films later, that chance encounter has evolved into something unique in the surf industry. Not just another paid-for surfer in a sponsor-athlete relationship, but a self-sustaining ecosystem of creative characters: Torren's style and charm, and Ishka's cinematic eye, yet also in the mix are Murray Paterson's orchestral soundtracks, and of course Simon Jones shaping the boards. 

"A key difference in how we work together," explains Ryan about the company structure, "is that surfers and creatives are not just an afterthought for decoration. They are key players and full-time employees who are a central part of the company.”

By championing a surfer who doesn't compete, needessentials uphold the idea that surfing is more than being the best surfer in the water. Torren turns heads with moves you'd never see in a heat. (Gershkow) 

An illustration of their hermetic world is needessentials most recent film, Calypte, which is also their most objectively successful film: After a national not-for-profit tour it’s since had two million views on YouTube. A superbly crafted surf exploration film, Calypte combines all the elements of needessentials’ working ecosystem - if not in the film then in its backstory. Family. Self-sufficiency. Adventure. Board design. Music. Filmmaking. 

Torren had just started learning to sail when an opportunity to move a boat through Indonesia presented itself. The idea to fund the project, film it, and create Calypte followed the initial impulse for adventure, and not the other way around. A distinction that shifts it more toward documentary than company promo.

There are other examples. In 2018, Laurie Towner joined as an ambassador while working as a tiling apprentice. Two years later, Ryan took him under his wing - just as Jeff Sweeney had done for himself decades ago at Quiksilver.

Today, Laurie splits his time between raising his family, using CAD software to improve the needessentials range, and appearing in the odd film doing what he’s always done: surfing heavy waves with nonchalance. 

Sitting fifty metres deeper than the pack, Laurie Towner freefalls into a Third Ledge beast at Cloudbreak (Ted Grambeau)

However it’s Torren who, for better or worse, is the surfer most associated with the brand. Like Kelly and Quiksilver, Occy and Billabong, Mick and Rip Curl.

During those early online interviews, Ryan stated there’d be “no marketing” and at that stage there wasn’t - if there were any press photos they featured Ryan alone. It was true they’d never run marketing campaigns akin to the industry of old, but how else to see Torren and Ishka’s film work as anything other than marketing? 

“Well, for starters, Ishka’s passion for filmmaking is also my passion for filmmaking,” says Ryan, who indeed is listed as providing additional footage and producer on the films. “The creative things I like in this space are making adventure films, surfing, and designing products.” 

“At some point,” Ryan reflects, “when you have employees then you then have a duty to ensure that their jobs will be there into the future. You also have to create some form of economy that shares your story and reminds people that you exist.” 

“Anyway,” says Ryan as an afterthought, “if you’re in the market then you’re doing marketing. The point was we don’t create advertising material; the stuff that ends up in landfill."

It sounds like the last word and possibly should be, except as customers we all know the last word comes at the checkout. From a consumer’s point-of view, the ‘no marketing’ mantra resonated as it implied a cheaper end price. The 3/2 steamer that cost $180 in 2014 now costs $260 - despite a decade of inflation, innovation, and supply chain chaos.

Each year Ryan heads off to somewhere cold to go surf and test wetsuits. Snowshoeing high in the northern latutudes.

In his 2010 book ‘Salts and Suits’ Phil Jarratt charted the rise and fall of the surf industry, playing with the idea of creative young surfers - the salts - building surf companies whose boardrooms were gradually infiltrated by business people - the suits of course. The 'suits' had little knowledge of the culture the companies grew from and their ignorance sowed the seeds of the industry's collapse.

In the final chapter, Phil provides optimism about the surf industry. The sentiment is well-placed but at the same time incorrect. The industry now is unrecognisable to what it was. Quiksilver and Billabong, once rivals, now share the same corporate owner. Hurley, Volcom, and Rip Curl have all been absorbed by larger entities. The titans that once ruled from Torquay have been vanquished. Controlled by suits who've never waxed a board. 

Yet what Phil Jarratt couldn’t know was that as the old monopolies gave way, newer and smaller companies began to take their place.  Aside from needessentials, Dane Reynolds and Craig Anderson, who like Kelly and Ryan were Quiksilver alma mater, started Former, making clothes with zero overtures to the mainstream market. Alongside Former are a slew of rag traders, wetsuit makers, and apparel companies, all owned by surfers and all operating within the new confines of the surf industry. 

“There was a time when the surf industry had an ego bigger than the actual reality of the surf community,” says Ryan. Once the reckoning came it blew away all the fluff and non-essentials. And while the new order retains many of the old order’s ways - sponsored surfers, surf films, product drops – there's a crucial difference. The scale remains communal, meaning the connections remain real. 

At present, fifteen people are employed by needessentials, split between Yamba, Tasmania, and Torquay - which is no longer the surf capital it once was. “I’m really grateful for people like Greeny and Lawro, and even Brian Singer and Claw,” says Ryan thoughtfully. “I saw the opportunities and products they helped create for the surf community and they have every right to sell; to let someone else take it on.” 

“Right now though,” Ryan continues, comparing then to now, “the next generation of surf industry feels like what Quiksilver and Billabong once were. Just these little family and friends communities. I’d like to see the industry be a better representation of the community that they service; to be humble and real.” 

When he makes the comparison, however, it’s hard not to also wonder if, given the opportunity, the new surf industry will also shoot for the stars, go public on the sharemarket, the way Quiksilver and Billabong once did. Or if the owners, Ryan included, will be satisfied remaining at a communal scale, making real products, authentic films and art, and even activism, while surfing every day.

Perhaps the answer to that lies in the fact he’s been there before and he’s seen where that path leads. "Ryan knows exactly how big a thing can get before he can't live that life anymore," Simon Buttonshaw observes.

"If there's a guiding principle in needessentials, it's a clear recognition of what success really looks like."

//STU NETTLE

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simba Thursday, 15 May 2025 at 7:14pm

great article ...thanks

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boxright Thursday, 15 May 2025 at 8:26pm

I haven't read a story like that for a while. Thanks Swellnet and Ryan Scanlon.

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Moonah Thursday, 15 May 2025 at 8:43pm

That Laurie photo…. phew

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Tooold2bakook Thursday, 15 May 2025 at 9:14pm

Great read

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zenagain Thursday, 15 May 2025 at 11:43pm

Another first-class read.

Photos really add to it. Great pics. Ryan's got a mean bottom turn.

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Lanky Dean Friday, 16 May 2025 at 5:39am

What about the US law suit with the distributor?
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Trying to flex the brand through growth?

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spencie Friday, 16 May 2025 at 6:07am

Great story. I've bought 6 or7 wetties and multiple boots and gloves from them over the past few years. Wouldn't buy anywhere else and they are great to deal with. Stoked to read the storey behind the brand.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 16 May 2025 at 7:11am

Love the old Indo pics and stories

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dandandan Friday, 16 May 2025 at 9:13am

Makes you wish you could turn back time doesn't it?

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surfbum Friday, 16 May 2025 at 7:21am

Good read!

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StayAtHome Friday, 16 May 2025 at 7:30am

thanks for capturing this chapter in surfing history and culture Stu, a great read!

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Ben Elvy Friday, 16 May 2025 at 7:43am

Cracker of an article and needs is just the sort of 'business' worth supporting.

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dinnerdish Friday, 16 May 2025 at 7:57am

Good read SN thanks

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ryder Friday, 16 May 2025 at 8:26am

Great insight Stu - thanks mate. A success story and a good story at that!

I find it ironic that I can walk into just about any independent surf shop in Australia these days to find these shops are all branding their own clothing range. And the stuff literally falls off the shelves in droves over the once staple of the big three brands.

Yet, surf branding back in the 80's and 90's was brash and colourful. But it worked!!! Who can forget the fluro canvas boardies from Billabong in the late 80's or Rip Curl with their multi-coloured range of Dawn Patrol and Insulator wetsuits. Even the boards were polished and colourful.

I don't know, I think the surf industry is so conservative and stale these days and no one is willing to try anything new for fear of failure. I walked into a surf chain the other day for a browse and the clothing was straight out of 1995.

The last time a wetsuit company tried something different was when O'Neill released 'The Animal'.

How times have indeed changed...

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juegasiempre Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 6:09am

Maybe because of the changing demographic? There's heaps of fat old people that surf now and no one wants to see their rig highlighted with fluoro?

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johpg Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 6:03pm

It's not about fluoro.
Just something different to a plain or pastel coloured shirt with a boring logo and nothing else.
Something like "Eddie would go...."

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dandandan Friday, 16 May 2025 at 9:13am

It sounds a bit overkill at first that something like needsessentials has changed the surf industry, but reflecting on how I engage with the surf industry it really has. I only ever step foot into a surf store to buy wax these days. If I ever need anything surf related it's either second hand, direct from the shaper, and everything else comes from needs, except legropes which I get from O&E.

Wetsuits are pretty important in Tassie and I've had the same needs 4/3 now since winter 2018. I'll replace it this year after 7 years of service which is twice as long as anything I've had in the past I reckon. I've had a 3/2 from them I wear for the other half the year and that's 3 or 4 years old and still going strong. They last a long time, yes, but also there's no sense of needing to upgrade to the next new thing. I like the simplicity of them, the price of them, and the genuine 'by surfers for surfers' nature of them. I can't see myself ever getting anything else, unless the brand itself went down a different path.

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udo Friday, 16 May 2025 at 9:42am

Why not the Legropes ?

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dandandan Friday, 16 May 2025 at 10:42pm

I've just got a soft spot for O&E. They've always held up well for me, and I like their commitment to surf hardware and things surfers actually need rather than focusing on fashion. I didn't realise that until I read this piece Stu did few years back: https://www.swellnet.com/news/talking-heads/2019/10/18/brian-cregan-the-...

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dellabeach Sunday, 25 May 2025 at 5:19am

Bought a 6’ and a 7’ a couple of years back. Worst swivels I’ve encountered in a long time. Legropes turn into twisted pretzels. Switched to DaKine, no problems.

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Andrew W Friday, 16 May 2025 at 9:23am

Great read thankyou. I wear their wetsuits which are excellent and good value. I am happy to support a business like needessetianls, more power to you Ryan.

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Stu2d2 Friday, 16 May 2025 at 9:49am

A few years ago my 16yo nephew was looking for a wet suit on a budget. My dad said to him you should only buy what is essential and you really need. I showed him the brand name and he shut up.

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basesix Friday, 16 May 2025 at 10:10am

Love the needs.. live by their their boardies for play and cotton straight leg pants for work (a measly 80 bucks for a lifelong moleskin pant of robust make and fetching aspect? I mean... c'mon..).

Great article, Stu Nettle style and humour, haha "www.plainblackwetsuits.com",
"They sold until they were sold out - and sold out they did."

wasn't there a bit of a story about USA legalness regarding needs becoming need or something? @udo?

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nolocal Friday, 16 May 2025 at 10:44am

Great story. Legit company. After years of devotion to needs wetties, I just bought a quikripabong branded wetty on sale. Have to say I feel a little dirty.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 16 May 2025 at 11:09am

Great story. Guilty of only going into shop for wax, and being a recalcitrant consumer in general. Needs 4/3 still going strong.

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backyard Friday, 16 May 2025 at 1:09pm

He is certainly onto something for the people who actually surf. I have a few of their products. A few weeks ago I broke a legrope, so was forced into a surfshop to get an O&E XT, which I am a full convert to. I knew exactly what I wanted, and that was to get in and out with said product asap, nah, the blather was on "great choice 'dude', I used one on my last trip to.... blah, blah, blah". Then square pants didn't even manage to produce a receipt for me, meaning null warranty, should I need it. The wax question was mentioned a few times above. I buy futures on that one when I go to Surfblanks, my favourite shop in the world, to buy my making materials, and those great, competent women have never called me 'dude'. ps I loved the R.S. quote "yet some of them were challenged in spirit and mind". Another great article. Thank you.

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Sprout Friday, 16 May 2025 at 7:24pm

Fantastic Stu, cheers.

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dumpy Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 10:08am

Thank you for a great read!

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Surfshack77 Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 10:15am

Nice read Stu. Reminiscent of early 70’s Tracks.

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TripperSurf Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 10:21am

Awesome read!

I caught the school bus with Ryan, from when he was G2, I was G3, so both tiny, but he was little for his year too.

We used to sit as close to the driver as possible to get away from all the bearded Tech School "men" and pretty brutal bullying. Our siblings also made sure their turned eyes were known.

Ryan got off at least 15km from the closest beach (now a new suburb called Charlemont, name taken from the reef/bombie off Beacon at 13th, ironically) and 25km to Bells (not 7km).

No one knew he was a surfer, until one day we found out. Our first question: “How do you get to the beach?”. He said usually lifts, but sometimes just has to ride if he wanted to surf … 30km return bike ride! Pretty sure they relocated later, but thought that gave some perspective.

It seemed like only a month after learning he surfed (was probably a year or 2), his brother told me he’d taken him to the most feared and respected wave in Victoria (the “no exposure” epicentre), so Ryan must have been early to mid teens, and just went out and was copping it and dealing with it (for reference, Russel Bierke copped this wave too… 2 wave hold down and a slashed neck and they had massive guns). Pre-jetski, doubt any of their boards would have been over 7 foot!

Granted, it was just breaking (8-10ft), but they were just these first generation surfer-farm boys who probably heard about this wave and just thought “lets go check it out!” Haha. Years of the old surfer crews tales scared us off these places.

His Brother told it like he took him there to scare the bejesus out of him, and the little prick dealt with it! It was said in hushed tones under his breath so Ryan didn’t see the pride he had in him… it was how it was back then. “Yeah, he did ok… I guess”.

Eventually, after 8+ years of bus rides, we got closer to, and eventually in the backseat in the early 90s, but art folios, finished canvasses and what seems like a higher proportion of creatives than normal (many gone onto successful creative careers) made up a grungier, more accepting crew.

Skaters and surfers didn’t have to hide as much from the footy-heads, and flannelette shirts and home knitted woollen jumpers had been our style for years, along with under age Cosmic Psychos, Celibate Rifles and Meanies gigs, so we almost felt grunge was what we’d been already and it just felt accepting.

I guess we didn’t have to hide our creativity anymore either, so the idea and breadth of “getting a real job” (ie a professional or a trade) had changed too, undoubtedly because of those pioneering surfer/entrepreneurs in our backyard who had taken over the world fueled by local creatives , but who we could also still surf with at times.

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stunet Monday, 19 May 2025 at 9:31am

"We didn't have to hide our creativity anymore".

Torquay was a real melting pot of lifestyles, eh? Not just the obvious farmers on one side and surfers on the other, but when the surf companies gained a toe-hold and began employing people then the regional town developed a creative bent, while still being a strong-hold for footy, fishing, and farming.

Appreciate the anecdotes, mate.

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hamishbro Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 10:26am

Been waiting for this article for awhile, not that I knew it was coming, just knew it needed writing. Great write up Stu.

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bocirl Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 5:03pm

Great read Stu. Love my Needs gear, hopefully they don't sell out.

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Meris Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 6:43pm

Great read, great products.
Thanks Ryan.
Keep doing what you’re doing.
Appreciate it.

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Moonah Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 8:20pm

Just found the time to sit down and read this.
And so glad I did.
Great article Stu and Swellnet, and well done Ryan for sticking to your guns.

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I focus Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 10:16pm

Thanks Stu, just got the new 3/2 Needs suit for this winter used with a hood I get 2 years, often ponder the meaning behind it all.....

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Wye oh wye Saturday, 17 May 2025 at 10:26pm

Great article. Having owned a couple of quiksilver suits and now a needs 3/2, the apprentice is a substantial improvement on the master

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NEGATRON Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 9:17am

Well done Stu, I felt like I was part of something long gone again after reading that!

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nasigoreng Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 10:26am

Fantastic article Stu. I was part of Quik Torq in this era and can attest to the accuracy of the article, and Torq today.

Thanks Ryan. You're introspection is reflected well in the product.

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Adam Fuller Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 12:15pm

Great article. One thing that always puzzled me about the non surfing suits was there are so many suits who surf (guilty as charged), how did they not manage to find good people who knew finance but also understood surfing?

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stunet Monday, 19 May 2025 at 9:40am

It's puzzling hey?

I still shake my head and wonder how quickly things changed at Billabong for instance. From the Jack McCoy days through the nineties (the films, the Billabong Challenges, the Indigenous Challenges etc), to handing the keys to the Perrin brothers, neither of whom surfed, both were clueless, and at least one was corrupt.

EDIT: Phil Jarrat says the Perrin's (and perhaps other suits) weren't so much 'found' but forced their way into what they saw as lucrative businesses.

https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2016/12/21/matthew-perri....

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ron Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 3:19pm

Nice work Stu!

Did you talk much about all the copy cat brands that appeared since? Seems like every time i'm on the socials a new cheap wetsuit brand pops up. Can't blame them but the factories almost make it too easy to just email and order the same thing, same details, same cuts etc.

I like what they are doing with the good quality plain clothes.

Really hope they are planning to get a yamamoto 40 suit in the mix.

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stunet Monday, 19 May 2025 at 9:44am

Yeah, I asked Ryan as the plagiarism is sometimes astoundingly bold, but I drew a blank.

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Surf Nerd Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 5:17pm

Good read - Convert here, last few suits have been need and they tick all the boxes. 4/3 with the outside and inside taping perfect for Vicco winters.

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Moonah Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 7:34pm

Has anyone tried the liquid sealed needs 4/3’s?

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Surf Nerd Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 7:54pm

As above, its a warm suit. perfect Vicco winter suit. comfy. I believe it's a tad thicker than RC, BB, O'neil 4/3's but a really legit good suit. 18 months on the latest one and still good, the previous one is a few years old now and starting to show heavy use in some spots but I use it as back up suit when the new one is wet.

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Moonah Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 7:58pm

Thanks surf nerd! Good stuff

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ron Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 9:26pm

Have had a few in both the liquid sealed and the first yulex version.

The regular one is good for the money and fairly warm. Stiff compared to the higher end but to be expected. held up leak free through the first winter. Slight crothch leak second and cooked on the third.

The first yulex was very stiff and soaked up allot of water. Had a heavy energy sapping feeling compared to the reglular material. I havent tried the new version i think they call natural rubber.

Also have some 2mm short arms, 3/2 regular, board shorts, leggies, all good. I find the basic suits for the warmer months are the best value where you really have nothing to loose. If you tend to find 4/3s and thicker hard work then thats where it might be worth going higher end.

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Moonah Monday, 19 May 2025 at 7:20am

thanks for the reply ron

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bdp Monday, 19 May 2025 at 4:11pm

Hi Moonah. I have one of the pre Yulex with the built in hood. Really good suit for the price and probably 4 seasons old now. The only fault I have with it as some have mentioned elsewhere is that it seems to be half a size to small feels tight on the arms especially. They could have rectified it by now though. I have since bought a Patagonia R2 3.5/3 Yulex which is similar in warmth but only slightly better otherwise so swap them over winter with the Need on the days I need a hood. Both are pretty heavy when wet.

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Moonah Monday, 19 May 2025 at 8:47pm

Thanks bdp, I’ll go try them out. I’m due for a new steamer. Cheers

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etarip Sunday, 18 May 2025 at 8:30pm

Great article. I don’t normally read the ‘industry’ articles, but this one looked different and turned out to be an absolute cracker.

+1 for the reviews on needs wetties and boardies. My 3/2 sealed CZ is excellent and has lasted 3 full seasons and still going strong. (It’s my backup now).

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Pembrose Sigarli Monday, 19 May 2025 at 11:14am

There's a movie in your story Trippersurf ... go talk to Ryan . yeew

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threetothebeach Monday, 19 May 2025 at 6:50pm

Wore one of the big brands religiously for years, gave these guys a try a few years back after a mate recombined them and now a convert. 3/2 sealed suit is a go too. Keep up the good work and love the no branding.

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Age Monday, 19 May 2025 at 10:50pm

Awesome read. It feels like the industry has gone full circle.

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Bnkref Tuesday, 20 May 2025 at 6:49am

As others have commented, the suits aren’t quite as flexy as the “high end” brands but I’ve got a 4/3 and 3/2 both liquid sealed and have been very happy with them. Nice and warm and built to last.

Also bought one of there puffer jackets which has been great.

Separately, is Ryan any relation to Judy Scanlon (surf coast photographer)?

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RockyIsland Tuesday, 20 May 2025 at 6:55am

I surfed all through the 70s andNeon 80s had an orange blue wetty and a pink board around 84.
I became a full time south to north hemisphere snow bum from 88 to 93 and moved back to the rock in 94 to start a family.
I paddled out at my local beach break on my first surf for 6 years and was surrounded by black wetsuits ,white boards and long hair. In the carpark it was baggies, flannies and grunge.
It was my back to the future moment
.......I had arrived back in the early 70s.

Love NE have had a 4/3 with hood for 4 years, a2/2 and 3/2 plus booties and 40 litre travel pack.
Great company great article.

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Dx3 Tuesday, 20 May 2025 at 9:20am

This was a great read Stu, thanks.

Love the company, my go-to wettie and clothing brand, and forever thankful for the content they put out there with Torren, Laurie and co. Very handy having their shop just up the road from me too.