Next Federal Election

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velocityjohnno started the topic in Monday, 22 Jan 2024 at 2:15pm

Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.

This is how Dutton wins:

https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...

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A Salty Dog Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 2:34pm

Indo,

You said: As for energy bill promise, FFS it was an election promise clearly made just to try to get the swing voter vote, no idea how people ever believed it would happen, but you can bet many sadly did, this is one that had no fuzzy lines a promise that affects all, but was just straight up BS.

It's obvious you didn't read the Reputex Report and it ain't 2025 yet.

And just in case you didn't know the Wholesale Price of electricity, while variable, is on a downward trend with the introduction of increased renewable energy sources.

But there's the difference Indo, the ALP look at what is going on, devise a strategy and implement it. The LNP on the other hand, criticise, deflect and obstruct while offering nothing of substance.

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soggydog Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 2:42pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
A Salty Dog wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
quadzilla wrote:
velocityjohnno wrote:

Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.

This is how Dutton wins:

https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...

The "GOVERNMENT" for want of a better word is practising their chook raffles, they think if they can do one of them right, they might be a chance of coming 2nd in the next election.

It was good for Australia to have this bunch of ideological dimwits,just to show how poor they are at running an economy.

The sooner the election comes the better,People want better than this mob of parasites.

I agree but it's really not realistic to think we will see a change of government, there hasn't been a one term government since 1929 and Dutton isn't very popular even with LNP voters.

LNP definitely have a lot to work with though the voice debacle, cost of living and especially the ridiculous claim by Labor energy bills would be $275 cheaper, and now tax cut back flip, among other things.

Ok.

The “Voice Debacle” as you refer to it.

The “Voice” proposal was produced under a LNP Government by a LP Senator who just happened to be indigenous. He consulted FNP groups all across the country and basically presented what they had asked for, Constitutional recognition etc etc. This was supported by the ALP and formed part of their policy going into the 2022 election, together with an undertaking to take it to a referendum.

Unsurprisingly, seeing another opportunity to disrupt, Dutton and Co, on the urging of Advance, labelled it “Labor’s Racist Voice”. Wyatt, McMahon and Gee resigned (at least they have principles) over the LNP’s abandonment of the policy, and Bridget Archer expressed her disapproval. Dutton threatened to expel her from the party, which makes a mockery of the Broad-Church concept.

The ALP kept its promise to take the Voice to a referendum and was then criticized for wasting $450 million the LNP didn’t want. Of course, the LNP suffered amnesia again, as who can forget Howard calling an early election to cash in on favorable sentiment. Then last year we had Tudge who decided to take his bat and ball and go home, requiring a by election and now Morrisson has decided to quit early. Both by elections would cost in the order of $3 million but no complaints from the LNP.

Much of the “Cost of Living Crisis” was a result of Covid policies. Cessation of immigration and travel meant that our pool of cheap and expendable labour disappeared and prices increased as a result.
Throwing money at people during Covid to do nothing was inflationary and the resultant increases in interest rates only made things worse. The resumption of immigration post Covid then started a housing crisis which in fact had been brewing for 20 years but it was all the ALP’s fault, according to Dutton.

The $275 electricity bill reduction has been again misrepresented by Dutton and Co. The ALP undertook to reduce the wholesale price of electricity by 18% to $50mwh by 2025 which would provide an average saving of $275 per household. They have no control however over the retail price. Read all about the plan here: refer to the download from Reputex for the detail.
https://www.reputex.com/research-insights/report-the-economic-impact-of-...

The changes to the tax rates provide increased benefits and cost of living relief to far more people than the LNP’s version. As circumstances change you should change policy to suit: in no way is that a back flip.

As for back flips, selective amnesia has again struck Dutton and Co. Who can forget Howards “Core and Non-Core Promises”, not to mention the “Never Ever GST”. And of course, the LNP’s abandonment of “The Voice”.

If you are going to criticize policies you really should go and review the source documents rather than rely on Sky News and other compliant media for your information.

The ALP are far from perfect and have made their fair share of mistakes, but they are prepared to initiate change and have a go at improving everything we have here.

The LNP on the other hand have morphed into a disruptive group, taking every opportunity to divide the population with lies and deception, all while having no coherent plan for anything.

Sorry for the length!!!!!

Ha ha the lengths you people will go to try to make excuse for the Labor rabble, every media outlet have reported things as they are there are many stories out right now on Albo breaking election promises and how much it may hurt him.

In regards to the voice we have been through this all before, Yes LNP got the ball rolling on the voice but when the voice & USFTH came back it was rejected even by Turnbull who is so far left i have no idea why he was in the LNP anyway.

And we all know how terrible the whole voice thing was handled, just a complete train wreck, it's almost as if they wanted it to fail.

As for energy bill promise, FFS it was an election promise clearly made just to try to get the swing voter vote, no idea how people ever believed it would happen, but you can bet many sadly did, this is one that had no fuzzy lines a promise that affects all, but was just straight up BS.

Albo should never have been PM, he was never up to it, he is way out of his depth, he is like our own Biden just younger.

But yeah we will have to put up with him and Labor for at least another few years and they wont be easy years.

In regard's to Howards GST broken promise, at least he took it to an election in 98 so people could say yay or nay, and they still voted him in

Other Labor backflips are Gillards carbon tax back flip and Kruds Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme and well not really a promise but his trial of open borders back to offshore detention and strict control was amusing to watch a 360 change in policy.

“If you are going to criticize policies you really should go and review the source documents rather than rely on Sky News and other compliant media for your information.

The ALP are far from perfect and have made their fair share of mistakes, but they are prepared to initiate change and have a go at improving everything we have here.”

Doesn’t matter what thread cockwomble’s are going to cockwomble.

Great post Saltydog, but unfortunately you are waisting your time with this pig ignorant cunt.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 2:53pm

It's mind boggling how a report could get it so wrong, but so called experts seem to get things wrong as much as they get things right, like how Covid was going to see the property market crash.

Labor backed the report and took the risk, but anyone with half a brain knew it was BS, i expect one day energy will be cheaper to produce for energy providers, but even when it is, they are unlikely to pass on the savings and more likely to pocket more profit.

Not 2025 yet, ha ha you guys will be saying that even in December.

BTW. I binged heavily on Sky News during the voice but barely watched Sky since its not that i have anything against Sky news, its more on international issues like Israel or USA elections its better to get updates from other news stations who report things quicker, Sky News just tends to rehash international news stories and their news is sometimes about 12 hours or so behind ..

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GuySmiley Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 2:56pm
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When exactly did a lot of us become flag waving idiots. It’s not the Aussie way.

At some stage during the Howard years the unflushable turd turbo charged the culture wars probably around the time of the Cronulla riots where it became “unAustralian” to question the legitimacy of Australia Day but especially Anzac Day that’s when. Jingoistic clamp trap aimed to divide and to encourage the perennially angry amongst us to line up electorally

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GuySmiley Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 3:02pm

Breaking news

24/7 SN correspondent pays for Sky News subscription but not for hosting surfing website!!

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truebluebasher Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 3:32pm

Indignation Day (Visitation Rights Day)

Neutral tbb has obligation to kick start a political bunfight on Police Station Open Day
Polls Apart is designed to Shock...crew can read into it wot they like!
Pretty much shows wot crew already know....Trump 4 Oz PM 2025.

World Punters Vomit as Righteous Left Godz stick pins in Super Lazy Evil Right Voodoo Dolls.
All Leaders of all rival God / Devil Parties fuel WWIII...(No need to Vote for that...well Durr!)

Grom : " I wanna Evil Voldemort Voodoo Doll 4 Xmas!"
Santa : " You me & Everyone, Son! "
Grinch : "A Xmas Miracle...Oh No! There ain't No Sanity Clause!"
Complete Damnation with the Rat...A Miracle...don't blow that Gig!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_Australian_fe...

Polls Apart : Indignation Day Awards

Dud Cockroach Award (*Most Dissatisfied with...)
Dutto : April 2023 (*54%) > Dec 2023 (Least 36%)
PM Albo : June 2022 (Least 18%) Dec 2023 (*55%)

Mate (vs) Mate (Disastrous Diabolical Deadly Dissatisfaction Duels)
July 2022 (24%) were more pissed off with Dutto than Albo
Dec 2023 (8%) are now more pissed off with Albo than Dutto

You Beaut Bonza Thong Toss Award ( Almost *Satisfied )
Dutto : April 2023 (26%) > Nov 2023 (*40%)
PM Albo : Dec 2022 (*62%) > Dec 2023 (37%)

Oz Primary Vote Poll (*Peaks / Lows)
LNP : April 2023 (28%) > Jan 2024 (*39%)
ALP : May 2023 (*42%) > Dec 2023 (29%)

States Primary Poll (*Peaks /Lows)
LNP : March 2023 (Vic 24%) > Dec 2023 (*Qld 41%)
ALP : Dec 2022 (*Vic 43%) > Nov 2023 ( NT 22%)

Oz 2PP Poll (*Peaks / Lows)
LNP : April 2023 (38.5%) > Jan 2024 (*51%)
ALP : April 2023 (*61.5%) > Nov 2023 (48%)

States 2PP (*Peaks / Lows)
LNP : June 2022 (Tas 37%) > Nov 2023 (*NT 56.1%)
ALP : May 2023 (*Vic 65.7%) > Nov 2023 (NT 43.9%)

2024 Australian of The Year is The inventor of The Southern Cross Tattoo Laser Gun.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 3:19pm

Flag waving has been a thing long before Howard first pic is 1944 during war time others are latter bottom 70's, as you can see also just the union Jack.

It's not my thing, but flag waving is not unusual for people of any country to do who love their country on special days, events or visits from royalty etc



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A Salty Dog Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 3:25pm
indo-dreaming wrote:

Flag waving has been a thing long before Howard first pic is 1944 during war time others are latter bottom 70's, as you can see also just the union Jack.

It's not my thing, but flag waving is not unusual for people of any country to do who love their country on special days, events or visits from royalty etc

Is that the Stolen Generation in the third pic???

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indo-dreaming Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 3:29pm
A Salty Dog wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:

Flag waving has been a thing long before Howard first pic is 1944 during war time others are latter bottom 70's, as you can see also just the union Jack.

It's not my thing, but flag waving is not unusual for people of any country to do who love their country on special days, events or visits from royalty etc

Is that the Stolen Generation in the third pic???

Not both lower pics are just happy young proud to be Aussie kids.

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andy-mac Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 3:39pm
indo-dreaming wrote:

Flag waving has been a thing long before Howard first pic is 1944 during war time others are latter bottom 70's, as you can see also just the union Jack.

It's not my thing, but flag waving is not unusual for people of any country to do who love their country on special days, events or visits from royalty etc



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mattlock Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 3:40pm

The Aboriginal kids don't look so happy.

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truebluebasher Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 4:00pm

Not exactly a politically correct Photo of the Day...is it now!
Just sayin'...that's hardly a proper way for a kid to wear a belt!
We used to wear ours around the back of the legs near yer Bum.
Used to leave red Buckle Mark...
Only these Posh Kidz 'd wear a belt around their waist...can't see any use in that!

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adam12 Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 4:59pm

Blue Ensign although being the Government flag since 1901, was not the national flag until it was adopted in '54, the year after the Korean War ended. So Aust. fought Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, peacekeeping under it, significant but Pfft. Our WW1 &2 and Korean diggers didn't fight and die for it, that was a different flag, the British Flag, which until '54 was our national flag. The Vietnam Vets got spat on when they came back, many with lives they left and went on to live destroyed, and John Howard was a war criminal that sent our troops to die knowing it was based on a lie.* Of the 100,000 Australian war dead, perhaps only 1000 died under our current flag, worthy to note, but not the bleating you hear every year at this time. So sick of the jingoistic rubbish "our diggers fought and died,,,etc". The new gen. yobbo flag monkeys, like those rioting at Cronulla that year, spurred on by that predatory Queen Alan Jones, currently doing a runner to London to hide away from the serious sexual assault allegations against him, also sicken my stomach.
There are parts, places, people here I love more than anything. But.
Phillip landed on this day, raised a different flag to ours, (though it's stain is still on the Blue Ensign,) had a toast, got a soldier to flash his privates for a local Eora to show they were humans then gave him some Rum which he spat out. Then they offloaded the rest of the Rum and female (and male) convicts and had a drunken orgy. Then promptly all nearly starved to death for two years unable to grow a crop whilst the locals sat around gorging themselves on seafood and bush tucker.
When the second fleet arrived, which they had been waiting for for salvation, they were in a worse state than those already here, with large numbers already dead and gone on the voyage because the British were only paying for how many got loaded on, not off.
The British knew it was not terra nullius, in fact the whole idea of a convict colony was dependent on the existence of the locals to form the "wall" that would keep the convicts from escaping. The convicts were all initially treated so appallingly, the local FNP were in bemused shock that humans treated others so poorly. The lash, cat o' nine tails, chains gallows and murder kept order, a human would probably have fared better being captured into American or other slavery than those first and following fleeter convicts that are so revered today.
The whole day only exists because Banks had bullshitted about the suitability of Botany Bay to the House of Commons to protect Cook's legacy and when Phillip arrived and realised they were all going to die, he to his, and maybe our, great fortune found Sydney Harbour, probably the greatest harbour in the southern hemisphere, big and protected enough to harbor the entire British Fleet and some, which Cook had never entered and barely noted in his logs and sailed right past. And La Perouse wasn't looking for a fight when his fleet serendipitously showed up at Botany Bay, just some provisions and shelter on a trip home he never ended up making. Otherwise we may all be speaking French. Vive L'Australie.
Arthur Phillip was a great man, I'd be happy to celebrate Arthur Phillip Day on this day, but not the reason it really happened for, to rid the Thames< King George 3rd and Pitt the Younger's Torys of the Prison Hulks overflowing with unfortunate poverty class criminals and Irish Jacobians stinking up the joint, nor the tragedy it was for the locals and their descendants that the day really represents historically. And no way do I feel like joining in the yobbo jingoism and RWNJ political football and "woke" whipping that it is today. This years bullshit is one for the books.


Give me a day when we raise a flag of our own, without the British flag plastered all over it, just the Southern Cross and Federation Star would do me fine, and a day that doesn't come with all the jingoism, borked cruel history, and pain to FNP and I'll be there with bells on, might even have a drink or two.
Plenty worth celebrating about this place. But they can stick this one. Not interested.
Thank God, or maybe Arthur Phillip, it's just about done for the year. Only eleven more months before the annual bullshit fest winds up again.

*Fascinating wasn't it that when the Cabinet Documents from Howard's government were released this year, long awaited, the advice from ASIO that there were no WMD in Iraq and the whole invasion would be based on lies, those documents had miraculously "gone missing" due to an "oversight" in providing them from storage, that occurred while they were in the custody of the government run by this guy...sporting his Australia Day look to fit in with the flag monkeys from his electorate...
https://twitter.com/SChundercock/status/1750756876822905246

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Blue Ensign although being the Government flag since 1901, was not the national flag until it was adopted in '54, the year after the Korean War ended. So Aust. fought Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, peacekeeping under it, significant but Pfft. Our WW1 &2 and Korean diggers didn't fight and die for it, that was a different flag, the British Flag, which until '54 was our national flag. The Vietnam Vets got spat on when they came back, many with lives they left and went on to live destroyed, and John Howard was a war criminal that sent our troops to die knowing it was based on a lie.* Of the 100,000 Australian war dead, perhaps only 1000 died under our current flag, worthy to note, but not the bleating you hear every year at this time. So sick of the jingoistic rubbish "our diggers fought and died,,,etc". The new gen. yobbo flag monkeys, like those rioting at Cronulla that year, spurred on by that predatory Queen Alan Jones, currently doing a runner to London to hide away from the serious sexual assault allegations against him, also sicken my stomach.
There are parts, places, people here I love more than anything. But.
Phillip landed on this day, raised a different flag to ours, (though it's stain is still on the Blue Ensign,) had a toast, got a soldier to flash his privates for a local Eora to show they were humans then gave him some Rum which he spat out. Then they offloaded the rest of the Rum and female (and male) convicts and had a drunken orgy. Then promptly all nearly starved to death for two years unable to grow a crop whilst the locals sat around gorging themselves on seafood and bush tucker.
When the second fleet arrived, which they had been waiting for for salvation, they were in a worse state than those already here, with large numbers already dead and gone on the voyage because the British were only paying for how many got loaded on, not off.
The British knew it was not terra nullius, in fact the whole idea of a convict colony was dependent on the existence of the locals to form the "wall" that would keep the convicts from escaping. The convicts were all initially treated so appallingly, the local FNP were in bemused shock that humans treated others so poorly. The lash, cat o' nine tails, chains gallows and murder kept order, a human would probably have fared better being captured into American or other slavery than those first and following fleeter convicts that are so revered today.
The whole day only exists because Banks had bullshitted about the suitability of Botany Bay to the House of Commons to protect Cook's legacy and when Phillip arrived and realised they were all going to die, he to his, and maybe our, great fortune found Sydney Harbour, probably the greatest harbour in the southern hemisphere, big and protected enough to harbor the entire British Fleet and some, which Cook had never entered and barely noted in his logs and sailed right past. And La Perouse wasn't looking for a fight when his fleet serendipitously showed up at Botany Bay, just some provisions and shelter on a trip home he never ended up making. Otherwise we may all be speaking French. Vive L'Australie.
Arthur Phillip was a great man, I'd be happy to celebrate Arthur Phillip Day on this day, but not the reason it really happened for, to rid the Thames< King George 3rd and Pitt the Younger's Torys of the Prison Hulks overflowing with unfortunate poverty class criminals and Irish Jacobians stinking up the joint, nor the tragedy it was for the locals and their descendants that the day really represents historically. And no way do I feel like joining in the yobbo jingoism and RWNJ political football and "woke" whipping that it is today. This years bullshit is one for the books.
https://twitter.com/SChundercock/status/1750746191116247166
Give me a day when we raise a flag of our own, without the British flag plastered all over it, just the Southern Cross and Federation Star would do me fine, and a day that doesn't come with all the jingoism, borked cruel history, and pain to FNP and I'll be there with bells on, might even have a drink or two.
Plenty worth celebrating about this place. But they can stick this one. Not interested.
Thank God, or maybe Arthur Phillip, it's just about done for the year. Only eleven more months before the annual bullshit fest winds up again.

*Fascinating wasn't it that when the Cabinet Documents from Howard's government were released this year, long awaited, the advice from ASIO that there were no WMD in Iraq and the whole invasion would be based on lies, those documents had miraculously "gone missing" due to an "oversight" in providing them from storage, that occurred while they were in the custody of the government run by this guy...sporting his Australia Day look to fit in with the flag monkeys from his electorate...
https://twitter.com/SChundercock/status/1750756876822905246

Farken nailed it!

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andy-mac Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 5:46pm

And one of Australia's best ever bands...

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basesix Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 6:01pm

And one of Australia's best ever imports


(2 years later, 1983.. same year as Australia II America's cup win..)

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wax24 Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 7:14pm

Hey Indo.... You are a DeSantis guy, and wish his ilk would surface in your political scene. I believe that will happen. Now, his ilk like to take some segment (or multiples) of a society and cast them as the scapegoats. Hence, the war on woke. When you get your DeSantis.. what segment of your society are you okay with being bullied and ostracized? You can pick more than one. Your version of DeSantis probably will. So, who are the losers in your future utopia? The FNP? The gays? (The Woke is good, cuz ya can roll up a number of "enemies" in one word, hey?) Look at Greenroom rant. You don't think that violence is a short stroll from where he has been led? Oh, do not worry. Your DeSantis is on his/her way. This populist uprising is global. And it requires "us vs. them." Without that, there is no movement. Pick your losers now, if ya wanna be on that train.
Me? Right or wrong, i tend to stick by The Vulnerable. That is why I will always oppose the DeSantis types, or bullies in any form or fashion, politics or no.

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adam12 Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 7:22pm

Far out, just like when things got difficult while he was PM, this guy keeps disappearing from my above posts. One more try and I give up if he goes again, he's gone from Cook finally anyway..

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san Guine Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 7:28pm
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Hey Indo.... You are a DeSantis guy, and wish his ilk would surface in your political scene. I believe that will happen. Now, his ilk like to take some segment (or multiples) of a society and cast them as the scapegoats. Hence, the war on woke. When you get your DeSantis.. what segment of your society are you okay with being bullied and ostracized? You can pick more than one. Your version of DeSantis probably will. So, who are the losers in your future utopia? The FNP? The gays? (The Woke is good, cuz ya can roll up a number of "enemies" in one word, hey?) Look at Greenroom rant. You don't think that violence is a short stroll from where he has been led? Oh, do not worry. Your DeSantis is on his/her way. This populist uprising is global. And it requires "us vs. them." Without that, there is no movement. Pick your losers now, if ya wanna be on that train.
Me? Right or wrong, i tend to stick by The Vulnerable. That is why I will always oppose the DeSantis types, or bullies in any form or fashion, politics or no.

Great stuff Wax,
Don't forget old mate only sees the world in binaries, its way easier to spout ill-informed nonsense when you only consider your side of the argument. That's why DeSantis is his man

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GuySmiley Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 7:49pm
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indo-dreaming wrote:

Flag waving has been a thing long before Howard first pic is 1944 during war time others are latter bottom 70's, as you can see also just the union Jack.

It's not my thing, but flag waving is not unusual for people of any country to do who love their country on special days, events or visits from royalty etc

Is that the Stolen Generation in the third pic???

Not both lower pics are just happy young proud to be Aussie kids.

More bullshit

I know a firsthand story about the young Queen’s tour of Australia but more specifically her tour of the Shepparton area of Victoria.

As it was told to me a very young {name respectfully withheld} and all her mob were moved off the banks of Goulburn River for fear that they may offend her majesty on her drive into town. The story continues that the mob were promised land and houses at the site that is now known as Rumbalara. The houses turned out to be concrete boxes with no windows nor doors, concrete floors, roofs and walls with no heating or running water. Apparently they were freezing in winter and like an oven in summer …. But the queen wasn’t offended by the mob living on the river so bullshit info.

RIP to a gentle Aboriginal soul and Aunty

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adam12 Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 7:47pm
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Hey Indo.... You are a DeSantis guy, and wish his ilk would surface in your political scene. I believe that will happen. Now, his ilk like to take some segment (or multiples) of a society and cast them as the scapegoats. Hence, the war on woke. When you get your DeSantis.. what segment of your society are you okay with being bullied and ostracized? You can pick more than one. Your version of DeSantis probably will. So, who are the losers in your future utopia? The FNP? The gays? (The Woke is good, cuz ya can roll up a number of "enemies" in one word, hey?) Look at Greenroom rant. You don't think that violence is a short stroll from where he has been led? Oh, do not worry. Your DeSantis is on his/her way. This populist uprising is global. And it requires "us vs. them." Without that, there is no movement. Pick your losers now, if ya wanna be on that train.
Me? Right or wrong, i tend to stick by The Vulnerable. That is why I will always oppose the DeSantis types, or bullies in any form or fashion, politics or no.

Wouldn't bother Wax24, he's not listening, ever.
Think he's in mourning today anyway, Stu finally, thankfully, nixed the Israel thread by the looks of it, a lot of researching and updating gone to waste down on the Island today.
As for the Aussie DeSantis, well we've got enough numpties ready to take on/ taking on the 'war on woke' here already. Enough to fill a phone book. We don't have a "gay" Disneyland here yet, keeps getting talked about, but we've got some theme parks on the Gold Coast and a couple of Luna Parks that I'm sure are getting up to a lot of woke nonsense somewhere ripe for picking. Now that our National Day is over, may see some action there, but they have plenty to scream "woke" about already., and have become experts at it like Ron from Florida. Hasn't seemed to get Ron the traction screaming "MAGA" has over there though. Sad. We've got a guy running as alternate leader that's been over your way getting lessons from the Atlas network and the other GOP think tanks on how to fire all that shit up here, picked up a few other things too going by this recent look he hopes gets him over the line....


Looking good! Make Australia Great Again!
Hope you've been scoring some West Coast bliss recently Wax24.

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wax24 Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 8:20pm

Thanx Adam12............ no bliss for me. I got wet one day last week, but can't remember which one it was. A long fn time ago, at any rate. Work is unbearable. They walked out 20 good people the week before xmas, and it has continued downhill from there. I am currently doing two jobs. Plus, my diverticulitis flared up over the weekend. I came into work one night in a fever from infection. That is my year so far in a nutshell. I am in a very sour mood.

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basesix Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 8:32pm

that's fucked, @wax24, really sorry you're travelling through horrible at the moment.

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wax24 Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 8:37pm

Thanx Base... a wise friend of mine told me once "when you are goin thru hell, keep movin."
I am one foot in front the other doin the next right thing and keepin movin.

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san Guine Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 8:37pm

Keep at it Wax, value your contributions on this site. Are you still in health care?

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wax24 Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 10:59pm

Yup, san Guine, still at it. If i go with a For Profit outfit, i'm gonna deal with the evil pricks i am dealing with now. If i go with a state/county run outfit, i'm gonna run into apathy. (I'm thinking of looking into a gov't run place cuz i am tired of the evil, incompetant pricks, but i am far from apathetic, so..... shrug)

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seeds Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 11:07pm

Gov run places are just as toxic Waxxy. Who’s apathy? Yours or theirs? Both? Gives ya the shits doesn’t it!

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wax24 Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 11:18pm

It's like the child's game of Which Would You Rather. "Waxxy, would you rather have an arm torn off by a tiger, or suffer incontinence for the rest of your days?" (young Waxxy, crying, "i just wanna go home") LOL

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blackers Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 11:37pm

Feed me to the tiger. I'm getting "Not for resuscitation" tattooed on my chest.

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wax24 Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 11:52pm

Heck, Blackers, most doctors i know have a DNR already in place.

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seeds Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 11:55pm

Haha that makes sense Waxxy

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blackers Friday, 26 Jan 2024 at 11:59pm
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Heck, Blackers, most doctors i know have a DNR already in place.

Not all of us get the choice. Want it to be totally clear.

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wax24 Saturday, 27 Jan 2024 at 12:35am

@Seeds.... don't it just?!
@Blackers.... to the Tiger with ya then. lol, Blackers, whatever ya want in that regard, is what should be.

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blackers Saturday, 27 Jan 2024 at 11:07am

Cheers @ wax, agreed. We are going through the repercussions of a family member suffering a stroke. It's grim, and given the option, I would want out.
Time to hand the thread back to the shouty ones. Go surfing.

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flollo Saturday, 27 Jan 2024 at 5:07pm

This government is doing a good job. They deserve another term.

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seeds Saturday, 27 Jan 2024 at 5:42pm

I’m happy with the rejigging of stage 3 tax cuts. Makes sense. Much fairer spread with no cut in total $.
Let’s hope it passes.

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adam12 Saturday, 27 Jan 2024 at 6:51pm
flollo wrote:

This government is doing a good job. They deserve another term.

Agreed @flollo, didn't know if Albo and Dr. Jim had the goolies to do it (change stage 3) for a while. Glad they did, and gave Dutts a double reverse wedgie at the same time, gotta sting!
Albo was a dill getting wedged during the election campaign to begin with IMO. Could have just brushed it off with a "We'll see what the country and the books say if we win" and leave it at that , move on. Guess he was a bit rattled by the fluffs he made in the first week of the campaign. Thought he was a bit smarter than to fall for that trap.
But they deserve another term IMO, whether a majority or minority with greens and independents( my preference, keep them on their toes and force a few necessary changes.)
The comparison to Scomo and that hot mess he ran is chalk and cheese.
A lot more work to do though.
@seeds, reckon they'll get/ already made sure they'll get the Senate numbers to pass it. Bandt might jump up and down demanding more but as usual will fold if pushed, Greens won't want the blame for it not passing, it would kill them as a party I reckon next election.

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seeds Saturday, 27 Jan 2024 at 8:18pm

Be a bad look for Spud to oppose it. Expose who they really working for. Be plenty of Lib voters, under the proposal, now better off too.

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adam12 Saturday, 27 Jan 2024 at 8:40pm
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Be a bad look for Spud to oppose it. Expose who they really working for. Be plenty of Lib voters, under the proposal, now better off too.

Yep. Saw this little gem today. Bill Shorten's got hold of his undies from the back too and ripping that double reverse wedgie up his crack at warp speed. Yeowch!
Dutts looks like a stunned mullet, starts blabbing and deflecting about "leadership challenges", no answer...enjoy...

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sypkan Saturday, 27 Jan 2024 at 11:22pm

"1 in 36 people in Australia today arrived last year. This is the largest migration intake in Australian history"

no matter how you look at it, that is a pretty staggering statistic...

https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/01/open-letter-to-the-minister-for-imm...

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sypkan Sunday, 28 Jan 2024 at 12:37am

dunno how he's managed to do it...

but mr genuine albo... is our most fake PM ever

this really is cringey and awkward

dude really really really needs aome new advisors

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sypkan Sunday, 28 Jan 2024 at 12:57am

but, to be fair to mr plastic fantastic...

didn't think he had it in him to show some balls re. stage three tax cuts... but he did...

first thing he's gotten right in 18 months

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andy-mac Sunday, 28 Jan 2024 at 7:18am
sypkan wrote:

"1 in 36 people in Australia today arrived last year. This is the largest migration intake in Australian history"

no matter how you look at it, that is a pretty staggering statistic...

https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/01/open-letter-to-the-minister-for-imm...

Ok got it, ya don't like Labor.
Be plenty to be happy about if Dutton and his crew of freaks get in ...

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andy-mac Sunday, 28 Jan 2024 at 7:29am
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dunno how he's managed to do it...

but mr genuine albo... is our most fake PM ever

this really is cringey and awkward

dude really really really needs aome new advisors

https://twitter.com/KatyKray73/status/1750996614561538223

Thought that speech was quite good and fitting. Not a lot of charisma, but he's a politician not an entertainer. One getting some good stuff done for Australia in a measured quiet way although yeah there has been fuck ups.
More genuine that ol Scomo bringing out 20 flags and some blokes in uniform and rattling on with bullshit, but the Sky crowd love that shit.
Media are out to get him, and they may succeed, but careful what you wish for. Dutton would be a disaster.
Spectator..... Mmm tory toilet paper.

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sypkan Sunday, 28 Jan 2024 at 8:38am

"...but he's a politician not an entertainer..."

that's right, that's why he should give up on the stage managed photo ops and contrived social media presence

The dude's been made over, prepped and propped so much there's nothing left

he should try being himself....

"Spectator..... Mmm tory toilet paper."

the numbers don't lie...

and those numbers are just plain irresponsible - in so many ways

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A Salty Dog Sunday, 28 Jan 2024 at 9:28am
sypkan wrote:

"...but he's a politician not an entertainer..."

that's right, that's why he should give up on the stage managed photo ops and contrived social media presence

The dude's been made over, prepped and propped so much there's nothing left

he should try being himself....

"Spectator..... Mmm tory toilet paper."

the numbers don't lie...

and those numbers are just plain irresponsible - in so many ways

Ahh The Spectator……unbiased comment at its best.

Given the processing times for migration applications plus the delays brought about by Covid restrictions, I’d hazard a guess that pretty much all of those 737,000 migrants were approved under a LNP Government. But The Speccy doesn’t let facts get in the way of a good rant; just blame Albo for everything.

And KatyKray, a relative newcomer to Oz, but happy to tell everyone what to do and think.

I do find it a tad ironic though, Jordan Knight and his anti immigration stance and KatyKray, the child of Russian immigrants, both on the same side of the fence.

And Katy should really thank her lucky stars she lives here instead of hurling shit at others.

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AlfredWallace Sunday, 28 Jan 2024 at 10:28am
wax24 wrote:

Thanx Adam12............ no bliss for me. I got wet one day last week, but can't remember which one it was. A long fn time ago, at any rate. Work is unbearable. They walked out 20 good people the week before xmas, and it has continued downhill from there. I am currently doing two jobs. Plus, my diverticulitis flared up over the weekend. I came into work one night in a fever from infection. That is my year so far in a nutshell. I am in a very sour mood.

Wax24. It can only get better. Sounds as though you’d benefit from a move to the other side of the Pacific. Hope you are feeling better sooner rather than later. AW

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GuySmiley Sunday, 28 Jan 2024 at 10:58am
A Salty Dog wrote:
sypkan wrote:

"...but he's a politician not an entertainer..."

that's right, that's why he should give up on the stage managed photo ops and contrived social media presence

The dude's been made over, prepped and propped so much there's nothing left

he should try being himself....

"Spectator..... Mmm tory toilet paper."

the numbers don't lie...

and those numbers are just plain irresponsible - in so many ways

Ahh The Spectator……unbiased comment at its best.

Given the processing times for migration applications plus the delays brought about by Covid restrictions, I’d hazard a guess that pretty much all of those 737,000 migrants were approved under a LNP Government. But The Speccy doesn’t let facts get in the way of a good rant; just blame Albo for everything.

And KatyKray, a relative newcomer to Oz, but happy to tell everyone what to do and think.

I do find it a tad ironic though, Jordan Knight and his anti immigration stance and KatyKray, the child of Russian immigrants, both on the same side of the fence.

And Katy should really thank her lucky stars she lives here instead of hurling shit at others.

Ha sippy getting caught out again quoting dodgy sources, you don’t sell “genuine “ Persian rugs under a permanent closing down sale do you?

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GuySmiley Sunday, 28 Jan 2024 at 11:10am

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