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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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Pop Down Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 9:31am

Kennedy IS still in the Race 2B President , he won't win any Electoral Votes , but will affect both Biden's and Trump votes , somehow .

I have said before , I really like him and his Fight against Fauci , is like a David V Goliath story .

A Knight in Shinning Armour , from Camelot !

The Democrats ALL seem to hate him , 4 some reason .

The Black Sheep , maybe to disestablishment , 4 the Establishment ?

Guessing He knows too many Dark Secrets , that others are Freaking out he might talk about , as President .

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indo-dreaming Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 9:48am

Many conspiracy theories have elements of Truth and sometimes the odd one ends up even being true.

Each to their own but from every thing ive read and from fairly decent sources he seems like he is prone to going down rabbit holes and quite nutty, not someone id personally vote for.

RFK kind of treads that weird space we saw during Covid and even what we are seeing with the anti Israel/anti Jew issue where far left and far right kind of met (the horseshoe theory)

Im a conservative but im not a fan of people like Alex Jones and that whole scene and Alex Jones is a big fan of RFK and RFK a big fan of Info wars

"Here Are All The Conspiracies RFK Jr. Promotes"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-indepen...

Hmmm this article seems to suggest he has even been on Alex Jones info wars
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/steve-bannon-alex-jones-l...

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andy-mac Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 10:12am
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It's not insane , at all , 2 think that one choice 4 the 331.9 million people , to Clean Up the Political Swamp , is a NON Politician .

Who better , 2 do the job .

Trump is really , ready this time .

Look at him now , compared 2 his first campaign .

He is very different .

He now looks like a Commander in Charge and knows what he HAS 2 do .

He is MUCH more formidable , now .

Imagine him with Tulsi by his side , instead of Pence .

The US people and Trump himself , had NFI and what he would actually DO , as President , the First time .

They just didn't want Hilary .

The US People and Trump , sure do know , what Trump will try and DO , this time .

This time , they surely won't want another 4 years of Biden !

Its such an easy choice , a fired Up Trump , or a diving Biden .

Trump is not the Messiah, he is just a naughty naughty boy....

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Pop Down Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 10:43am

hey Andy Mac

Happy Good Friday to U and all SN .

Trump is a Very Naughty Boy Still and always has been .

His better Half , has had a tough job trying to control a bloke , who thinks he IS the Messiah lol !

Not as tough a job as Hilary .

Jill seems to B working well with Joe ( complicit ) .

Seriously , all good gents , should STILL have a bit of "The Naughty Boy " in us .

I bloody do .

We have 2 give the girls something 2 do , so were made a bit different , 4 some reason .

It's a tough job , but someone has 2 do it .

This work takes its toll and we die earlier , as a result .

Girls are maybe , riding us 2 an early grave , 4 some reason .

Maybe , they just like playing around , with our Man Stuff and our minds ?

I have NFI , of course .

Girls rule :) , perhaps ?

I can't say I am less naughty , than I was as a kid .

I am smarter and don't drink piss :)

Have a great day , mate !

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andy-mac Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 10:38am
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hey Andy Mac

Happy Good Friday to U and all SN .

Trump is a Very Naughty Boy Still and always has been .

His better Half , has had a tough job trying to control a bloke , who thinks he IS the Messiah lol !

Not as tough a job as Hilary .

Jill seems to B working well with Joe ( complicit ) .

Seriously , all good gents , should STILL have a bit of "The Naughty Boy " in us .

I bloody do .

We have 2 give the girls something 2 do , so were made a bit different , 4 some reason .

It's a tough job , but someone has 2 do it .

I can't say I am less naughty , than I was as a kid .

I am smarter and don't drink piss :)

Have a great day , mate !

You too!
Hope you find some waves over the weekend!
Happy Easter!.

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bonza Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 10:50am
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Its insane that for a country with 331.9 million people that these are the political choices.

Isn’t it just. the blokes a charlatan.

https://reason.com/video/2023/07/10/why-are-so-many-libertarians-suddenl...

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Pop Down Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 11:16am

With Trump , the People of the USA will know where "The Buck Stops " .

The President does become the Messiah 4 , 4 years .

Where does the Buck Stop in the Biden administration ?

This Blunts the Power of the President and so , the USA .

No International Leader is Interested in dealing with Biden .

Putin , Xi , Erdoden , Netty , Macron , will ALL take Notice of What Trumpy tells them .

Especially , this time .

The President of the USA is the Biggest Job in the World .

Its not a fn Committee , it's ONE Persons Responsibility !

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Pop Down Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 12:29pm

Just re read the piece about the bridge collapse I mentioned earlier .

Right at the end , the author pointed out the Same Ship hit a Bridge in Belgium in 2016 .

Seems like the fn Captain , just likes hitting bridges , 4 some reason ( Insurance ? :) every so often .

Titanic Kamakasi , like ?

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Roadkill Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 12:50pm

lmao @ anyone silly enough to think Trump will win. It ain’t going to happen.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 12:51pm
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It's not insane , at all , 2 think that one choice 4 the 331.9 million people , to Clean Up the Political Swamp , is a NON Politician .

Who better , 2 do the job .

Trump is really , ready this time .

Look at him now , compared 2 his first campaign .

He is very different .

He now looks like a Commander in Charge and knows what he HAS 2 do .

He is MUCH more formidable , now .

Imagine him with Tulsi by his side , instead of Pence .

The US people and Trump himself , had NFI and what he would actually DO , as President , the First time .

They just didn't want Hilary .

The US People and Trump , sure do know , what Trump will try and DO , this time .

This time , they surely won't want another 4 years of Biden !

Its such an easy choice , a fired Up Trump , or a diving Biden .

If i was in the USA, and now it's Biden V's Trump, id vote Trump.

I think he is a better leader than many give credit and i like how he pushes back against lots of things.

But i was also really disappointed with how he dealt with the last election result, if he had dealt with things differently i think right now he would be even more popular than he is.

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frog Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 8:09pm

Trumpy made many mistakes and was kept punch drunk through constant Russiagate Russiagate Russiagate left and right hooks.

He also had all Obama's appointees still swimming aroung the swamp looking to take a bite out of him. Trump was unprepared - no ready made team to put in place as he did not expect to win. Quite a few appointments he made were very willing to undermine him (John Bolton) and so his judgement was flawed on fit and loyalty when picking key people.

No president has had a more hostile start and finish.

If he gets in again it will be a full on revenge driven alligator, snake and eel hunting season in the swamp. His future team would be seriously vetted and ready to move fast on policy changes.

The Obama swampies know it. Hence the current campaign to derail him that would make any Banana Republic el Presidento in recent history blush.

How far will they go to stop him? Seems almost no limit these days.

Stranger than fiction. The founding fathers are kicking their coffin lids in frustration at what the US has become in the past few decades. 2001 was a turning point.

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GuySmiley Saturday, 30 Mar 2024 at 3:43pm

The US home of the free home of democracy …. Bahahaha

One example
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/29/newbern-alabama-election...

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 30 Mar 2024 at 5:56pm

Hey frog I think Trump has a plan about that this time, wholesale replacement of large sections of the gov depts, and they've been getting people ready for this - can't remember where I read this, maybe a year or 2 ago

It will be a bit like Milei

and what is a home of a free home?

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Pop Down Saturday, 30 Mar 2024 at 7:40pm

Such good points above and Trump , Will follow Miles's Lead and Plans .

He loves the guy and doesn't re Invent Wheels .

He is SO good at Playing the Game , now .

Biden was booked IN , 2 go 2 a Huge Obama Feast , so Trumpy booked himself IN , 2 go 2 a Funeral 4 a NY , NYPD , Officer , very Political , maybe , but smart .

Someone in Biden's Team Posted , less than 24 hours before the Funeral , That Trump had played Golf the day B4 and Biden was hard at works .

As everything , is In the Optics , Biden's Team made Biden look bad , again .

The Swamp will have Trump and Tulsi , on Clean Up detail 4 4 YEARS .

What they don't turn into a Garden , Tulsi will , she will also have 4 years .

I hate these Unnatural Swamps and the Blood sucking mozzies they create .

I might send Trumpy a BIG Can of Full Strength , Mortine !

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I won't send any Can of Stuff , anywhere in the mail , as wouldn't Get Through , silly idea and popped off .

Maybe , a Warhol Type, Picture ( Adam 12 , would know ) ?

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frog Saturday, 30 Mar 2024 at 9:36pm
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Hey frog I think Trump has a plan about that this time, wholesale replacement of large sections of the gov depts, and they've been getting people ready for this - can't remember where I read this, maybe a year or 2 ago"

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term

The above discusses his plans and some of his mistakes he does not want to repeat.

Not quite tiddly winks for either side.

Politics often can be just theatre and a bit of verbal biffo. This is more like war for both tribes.

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Pop Down Sunday, 31 Mar 2024 at 8:44am

Hey Frog

It is more like a Revolution imho .

Time to Overthrow , the Deep Dark State .

Trump is NOT the the Republican Party and Deep State is the Status Quo with both Parties involved .

There is a video floating around of Milei in Front of a White board talking about the Cuts ( The Chainsaw ) he will make .

The White Board had ALL the Argentine Government Departments .

He was ripping OFF the Board , WHOLE Governments Departments saying , we don't need this shit .

Must be something about having a funny Hairstyle .

Milei , like Trump , spends a Lot of time on his Mop and it looks really different .

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 31 Mar 2024 at 5:21pm

Yep, good link, imagine that kind of thing happening here. Still think Trump is challenger, looks like he'll win then [chaos + something happens with the votes] and the other person wins.

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Slackjawedyokel Sunday, 31 Mar 2024 at 6:02pm
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Yep, good link, imagine that kind of thing happening here. Still think Trump is challenger, looks like he'll win then [chaos + something happens with the votes] and the other person wins.

Trump would win in a landslide if the entirety of entrenched US politics / institutions/ intergenerational wealth wasn’t stacked against him.

These forces will stop at almost nothing.

The blatant attempts at stealing the election are still there ; the drop box ballots (WTF?), the broadscale postal votes, the lack of voter ID.

Beyond that the mass media hypnosis is in full effect against the mentally vacuous and easily led.
The attempt to steal will have more eyes but the desperation to pull it off is reckless. That’s when shit gets particularly crazy.

The highest stakes on the planet for the organised criminal outfits to duel to the death, or as near to death as they can convince the true power of the human masses to accept without revolution.

There’s few people who truly believe that Biden isn’t just a meat puppet installed to confuse as to the true source of power in the USA. The power of the true power is displayed when anyone claims otherwise.

Imagine the might of the mafia if they were able to conjure US$200 Billion to launder back to themselves through an otherwise non descript border skirmish in a land so far away and so irrelevant that most of those taxpayers funding the money churn could even spot the country on a map ( Ukraine) .

That’s what Trump - and the American people- is up against.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 31 Mar 2024 at 6:47pm

Trump's Capital Lynching Mob take it up a notch with Presidential Style Hogtie Abduction!

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Slackjawedyokel Sunday, 31 Mar 2024 at 6:50pm

Yep. After 8 years of the media screaming that Trump was going to blow up the world in a nuclear holocaust and douse democracy in acid for good measure, spare me if I don’t swoon when they now tell me the world is gonna end now some anonymous US citizen put a bad taste mural on the back of his Ute.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 31 Mar 2024 at 7:03pm

Another Barge takes out another Bridge...Close the Interstate...OMG!
Something in the Water alright!

This shipping Bridge tragedy just last month in China...

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 31 Mar 2024 at 7:24pm

Can't wait for the epic boatfails compilations for 2024.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 31 Mar 2024 at 7:27pm

And now for a humour interlude, here is a truly great example of Democracy At Work in the USA. The people elected this man and he will be heard by the school district board, despite their best efforts to stop him:

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frog Monday, 1 Apr 2024 at 8:29am
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Hey Frog

There is a video floating around of Milei in Front of a White board talking about the Cuts ( The Chainsaw ) he will make .... "

Milei has not dollarised the economy or got rid of the Central Bank. These were two key promises that have not been done. Dollarising the economy would have killed inflation overnight.

Why? "Argentina's President-elect Javier Milei will appoint Luis Caputo as his economy minister, he said in a radio interview on Wednesday in Buenos Aires, after a two-day trip to the United States.

Caputo, seen as a market-friendly pick, Argentina's
"Milei taps ex-central banker Caputo to fix economy in crisis"

Maybe he has been carefully side tracked and appointed thoroughly owned insiders for advice. Cutting and privatisation are classic IMF and World Bank themes - watch if and how that occurs to see who is winning.

Getting rid of the Central Bank is like a McDonalds Franchisee saying they will rip up their franchise agreement and go it alone.

H/O will pull out all stops to prevent that happening.

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Pop Down Monday, 1 Apr 2024 at 9:24am

Frog

The Forces that Milei is Up against ( same with Trump ) are Formidable and he sure knows he is In , the Fight of his Life .

I watched an interview with him , 2 days ago .

He was asked about the Forces he was Up against and " What's Plan B " ?

He haș drawn a Big Line in the sand and Will Stand his ground , with his People right behind him .

He said " There is NO Plan B " .

Argentina are sure at a pivotal moment in their History .

Can Milei , Change the Status Quo and the ugly Vortex they have been locked into ?

The odds are sure stacked AGAINST him and he has not much hope imho .

Milei haș forced Open a New option or Door , that Argentina can take , its a Sliding Door Moment .

Dark Foreign Forces , are trying 2 Close that Door and Path , 4 Argentina .

I am barracking 4 him .

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basesix Monday, 1 Apr 2024 at 9:50am
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Can't wait for the epic boatfails compilations for 2024.

haha! (that steve rocco thing was pretty funny - a harmlessly mentally deluded chap making mockery of petty bureaucracy. led me to rewatch the 'other steve rocco's 2007 skate film, it's a hard watch structurally, but great time capsule of the early 80s birth of corporate street-skate-punk, i'll stick it in the vids thread).

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Pop Down Monday, 1 Apr 2024 at 1:32pm

Hello base six

If there is video of my surf at Phillip Island , U will have a belly laugh .

Talk about epic boat fail ( my mal is like a boat ) .

Definitely no time capsule of my early 80's surfing !

More like a mentally deluded chap having a Structurally fundamental problem and looked like a fn Corporate Collins Street Suit Punk getting bashed up by Hewy .

Even coming In , my board did a fn nose dive in the bloody Shorey and somehow jumped 9 feet in the fn air with no spin ( had taken the leach off ) .

It was HIGH Tide and an Indian family were walking along the bloody beach , so I yelled , Look out , or Four .

They appreciated the warning and stayed out of the way .

A Layne Beachly young chick ( I chatted to her group , going out ) ran down and said my board made a huge leap and beautiful landing ( I thought it might snap ) .

The surf had picked up on the 2.5 hour ( logjam coming into PI ) trip down and I scrapped over heaps .

Took some 8 ft faces on the Head ( chucked the board ) .

Then it got bigger and I got , more beaten up .

Drive home was freaky , as the Car computer went haywire and said my Tires were loosing pressure so I started beeping my horn more , 2 relive my pressure .

Was thinking that was an Epic Fail of a bloody Surf , 4 Don Quixote .

So , bought a smaller , 8'2 board and will fn be able 2 duck dive again and avoid some epic fails , hopefully .

RACV said computer is stuffed but I am ok to drive to Sydney on Wednesday .

Going 2 C Lili Alaska and her New Band perform on Thursday the 4th at The Low 302 .

Lili's parents are some of my Frenchy Friends .

Life's an Adventure , 6'y :)

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frog Monday, 1 Apr 2024 at 6:33pm

Decades ago a mate lost his contacts at Phillip Island and drove home to the city somehow - staying very close to the car in front to stay on the road and spot the corners and slow for traffic lights.

He had never seen the inside of a tube - always screws his eyes shut.

:)

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basesix Monday, 1 Apr 2024 at 8:22pm

^ awesome @PopD, have a ball. I lived about 500m up Crown Street from The Low 302 for a bit in the early 90s. Far out! Memories.. looks like the old Bentley Bar is now Rosie Campbell's Jamaican cocktail bar, and the pastizzi place (pea or corn, 6 for 2 bucks, post doof) and unreal record-store are currently Epic Pizza and Iconic Kebabs. Have a piss in Taggarts Lane for me after the gig ; )

(boats? The kids and I like to go for a jetboat tour when in sydney CBD, you get to efficiently remind yourself what a beautiful natural harbour it is, and how richy the richies are, south shore, islands, mouth, north shore, under the bridge, 40mins.. video? they take gopro of you on the boat. It would give me so much pleasure to think of you doing that @PopD, haha!)

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Pop Down Tuesday, 2 Apr 2024 at 8:37am

Hello Base6

After living in Sydney for 10 years , I do know Crown St .

I lived in Mosman Bay , but loved The Dark Side of the City :) .

Watching a band with a friend or friends playing , is like mucking around in a boat .

Such good fun .

Keep the great suggestions coming , please !

A Jet Boat Tour , gosh , what a great suggestion and way 2 check out the Harbour and Northern Beaches .

As I love mucking around , in/on any boat , that's now on My 2 Do list , 2 .

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flollo Tuesday, 2 Apr 2024 at 11:11am

Shoot first, ask questions later.

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sypkan Sunday, 7 Apr 2024 at 2:12pm

"..."People don't talk about it like it is an outrage," she said about the transformation of the Democratic Party into something other than a party for the working class. "It is such a fait accompli at this point that we forget that it is outrageous for a party that used to represent labor, the little guy against big corporations and the rich, completely abandoned that constituency to cater to an over-credentialed college elite on one hand, and the dependent poor on the other. And it is double outrageous because that party still masquerades as the party of the little guy, even though it is not the case anymore."

"It started with the handshake agreement between both parties that we're going to become an economy that embraced free trade," she said. "That was Bill Clinton's contribution to this, signing NAFTA into law and trade agreements that resulted in the offshoring of 5 million manufacturing jobs to China and Mexico."

"And then President Obama showed up and said repeatedly those jobs are not coming back, and pioneered this idea that everyone was going to go to college and become part of the knowledge industry, and that was going to be the pathway to the American dream. And then it became the only pathway to the American dream!"

"Joe Biden played his part by effectively opening up the border, decriminalizing illegal border crossing, and welcoming in 11 million new migrants to compete with working-class Americans for the jobs that remained here," she said.

"It's true that immigration raises the GDP in the aggregate. The problem is nobody lives in the aggregate. GDP is not equally distributed across the nation. We know the top 20% now has 50% of the GDP at its disposal. The very people who love to rail against the 1% are the people who have made the largest gains in the last 50 years, and they are the consumers of low-wage migrant labor, which is why, of course, they want more of it. It is an upward transfer of wealth from the working class to the elites who consume that labor."

"If you bring in 11 million people and you know they are going to be employed as cleaning people, landscapers, and in construction, you have effectively stolen wages from the Americans who were employed in those jobs. It is just obvious supply and demand."

Carl Cannon asked: "Do they really hate the working class, or are they just in their politically correct bubble and don't see what they're doing?"

"They can not stand the idea that they will lose, even if they lose in a very obviously democratic way," Ungar-Sargon said. "They are very comfortable when they can sit there on cable news making millions of dollars to sneer at the working class. They're comfortable when the working class can't clap back."

"This was really Obama's revolution, the idea that the 'smart set' should run things. We should have an oligarchy of the credentialed. But when the working class has their audacity to vote in their own interest and clap back by putting somebody like Donald Trump in power, that sneering contempt turns to hate."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/04/05/batya_ungar-sargon_cl...

GDP figures as percentage tell the true story...

"...sneering contempt turns to hate."'

unfortunately oz politics on pretty much exactly the same trajectory...

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frog Sunday, 7 Apr 2024 at 3:30pm

This video covers a range of things but at the start Luke discusses how the US have painted themselves into a corner financially, economically and in a great power rivalry sense.

He also notes that anyone who tries to raise such issues is just not welcome back in Washington.

This makes for a nice la la land of ingrained superiority in the short term but the problems just grow and crunch time approaches. Neither party confronts the hard issues but the Democrats are especially lost in their brave new world of promoting correct pronounology, the newly discovered concept (to Democrats) that war is actually really good stuff (blood and death overseas = more jobs at home!) and that gatecrashers and squatters make everything more fun.

- China can apparently manufacture the equivalent volume of the entire stock of US cruise missiles (around 4000) in a week! This would take years in the US.

- China can build power stations and manufacturing plants (and EVs and solar panels) for a sixth of the cost of anyone in the USA.

- China's supposed achilles heel of poor demographics (a big topic in Washington as it seems to solve everything in the rivalry with no effort "they're stuffed, we got lots of those young illegals,.... sorted. Whisky anyone?)') may not be such an issue with its massive investment in manufacturing automation. Machines and robots can lessen the need for lots of cheap labour. So China may not be in for an inevitable decline due to an ageing population. They can make lots of stuff and export to the world even with a shrinking working age population.

Meanwhile, Luke tried to get a metal cup with his logo on it made 100% in the USA and failed! No-one could do it. Chickens are coming home to roost.

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frog Monday, 8 Apr 2024 at 10:18pm

Tulsi Surfs!

and seems to be the only politician in the modern era not to get rich while a "law maker" - she travels in economy class as is noted in the interview below.

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southernraw Tuesday, 9 Apr 2024 at 9:03pm

As a follow up to yesterdays post, i noticed, with bemusement, that 225 million Americans didn't die today, in case anyone was worried or wondering. :-P

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Pop Down Wednesday, 10 Apr 2024 at 6:35am

Hello southernraw

I was wondering and appreciate the update and Can relax .

The Bloody Y2K Bug nearly , Blew Up the World 2 and also woke with Bemusement on the New Years Day , that the Sky Didn't Fall in , overnight .

Talk about Chicken Littles .

Tulsi CAN surf !

I have Already Declared , I really Like any Politician , that can keep Popping Up , in the Water ( they do it on land 2 ) .

Tulsi and Tony , keep popping up , like all surfers do .

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basesix Friday, 12 Apr 2024 at 9:36pm

well, on this thread @wax24, you are representing. share away brother, we've missed you.

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sypkan Sunday, 14 Apr 2024 at 3:34pm

US - or someone - wheeling out the big guns... literally...

seems george bush's star wars program has come to fruition

(as has WWW111 possibly...)

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burleigh Sunday, 14 Apr 2024 at 5:22pm

Iran will get blown to pieces if they want a war. It will be a walk in the park for USA

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 14 Apr 2024 at 5:46pm
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US - or someone - wheeling out the big guns... literally...

seems george bush's star wars program has come to fruition

(as has WWW111 possibly...)

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1779177782477496789

Looks prerty crazy but these things are often misleading if it gets traction Ryan McBeth will probably do a video on what it is he's a intelligence analyst, software architect, cybersecurity guy, and YouTube content creator of military, intelligence and disinformation topics.

He does regular videos on de-bunking a lot of these things from war zones.

I dont do Twitter/X but expect he is also on there.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 14 Apr 2024 at 5:48pm

Better place for this.

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I have a type of theory perhaps even conspiracy theory on this.

While Bidens initial response to Oct 7th and supporting Israel was very good, in the last few months its done a 360 turn and he has really been letting Israel down, because of course it's an election year and he is clearly trying to keep his voters happy and Arab voters happy.

This has made Israel realize that they cant trust Biden and would be much better off with USA being under Trump.

Israel of course want to take out Iran figures when possible as they are the main funder of Hamas and other proxies so there is a motivation there, but normally they wouldn't want to trigger an Iran response but right now triggering Iran into retaliation isnt such a bad thing, it works politically for Israel, because Biden/USA has no choice now but to help Israel and in effect will piss off many democrat voters and Arab voters.

Hence this incident works against Biden and favours Trump, Trump can also say this would never happen under him as Biden has been very weak in dealing with Iran and almost even funding them.

Sorry probably isn't really the thread for this, but topic has gone that way.

Interesting that Jordan also got involved in shooting down Iran drones, they have a peace deal with Israel, but still kinda surprised considering the huge Palestine population in their country.

"Jordan airforce shoots down Iranian drones flying over to IsraeL"
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/jordans-air-defence-ready-shoo...

And sadly the only casualty in Israel from the attack seems to be a young Bedouin girl, Bedouins are Arabs and muslims, they were traditionally nomadic but these days settled and very patriotic to Israel a high percentage serve in the IDF.

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southernraw Sunday, 14 Apr 2024 at 6:54pm

You been playing with your plastic soldiers again Indo?

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southernraw wrote:

You been playing with your plastic soldiers again Indo?

SRaw. He just can’t let it go. Loves a battle on any front.
He’s Definitely the Leader of the Opposition, natural born shit stirrer. AW

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 14 Apr 2024 at 8:33pm
sypkan wrote:

US - or someone - wheeling out the big guns... literally...

seems george bush's star wars program has come to fruition

(as has WWW111 possibly...)

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1779177782477496789

Haha, time for this one:

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mikehunt207 Sunday, 14 Apr 2024 at 8:52pm
burleigh wrote:

Iran will get blown to pieces if they want a war. It will be a walk in the park for USA

Yeah like they did in Afghanistan? Or Iraq? Or Vietnam?
All park walks burls.....
And that was with presidents that weren't even senile ( morons perhaps in bush jnrs case but... )

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indo-dreaming Monday, 15 Apr 2024 at 7:26am
AlfredWallace wrote:
southernraw wrote:

You been playing with your plastic soldiers again Indo?

SRaw. He just can’t let it go. Loves a battle on any front.
He’s Definitely the Leader of the Opposition, natural born shit stirrer. AW

Both of you have no interest in contributing to this topic you are just here to troll, even though SR X girlfriend just had 300 missiles and drones set towards her and if it wasn't for Israel and its alies, he could be getting the news that she is now dead, but the dumb fuck is now probably simping for Iran trying to claim they are victims.

And then AW the guy that lives in some alternative fantasy land has the gall to come in here adding nothing shit stirring while accusing others with an interest in major world affairs that actually affect the whole western world of shit stirring.

You cant make this shit up.