Vaccinate or not

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Supafreak started the topic in Tuesday, 24 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm

I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 21 Apr 2021 at 9:18pm

tbb great research in last page and thought provoking. Would it be right to posit that strong vax rollout is correlating to new/bigger covid spikes as it is already present in the communities this is being done in, and then amplified by carefree behaviour occuring before vax takes effect? And further, a slow vax rollout with zero covid in the community might then see a very different result? (ie, no spike)

Long covid clots similarity with vax clots occurrence, noted.

Also noted is vaxxed people still getting covid & spreading it, and some dying. Probably a smaller number than without, a smaller R0. And best way to stop it is to stop transmission, simple as that.

San Guine discussion on clots/clexane, thanks for that.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 22 Apr 2021 at 2:43am

Thanks for the most insightful reply velocityjohnno, pretty much where tbb was headed next as well.
Yep! Vax is less the Issue...It's about triaging the largest ever Pilgrimage clear of the Hottest Spots.
Vaxing by body Clock Immunity limits reaction (re: Senior Circadium Rhythms) & Isolating after Vax.
That saves 1m lives & 50% Health budget right there...instead we crowd out Noddy's toy town.
Yes, tbb is trying to keep one step clear of them...that's a yard arm extra than the Oz media egg timer.

Yes! tbb agrees wholeheartedly with VJ that a dose of San Guine is what the World needs right now.

Some real supa comments on swellnet Covid Forums...reckon the crew are keeping tbb in the game.

As said...the Vaccine Blood Clotting is very much copying the Covid Clotting...(tbb: 'No one said that?')
Well not as one connection as yet...but can prove this Loop theory from each & all approaches.
Also reckon Science is close to doing the same....could be another GOF glitch that stops it again.

Firstly! There is a reactionary reason for the Muscle injections.

The immune system needs to ramp up to fight off Covid but so to, the equally feisty Vax copy.
"Severe Covid is a disease that affects the inner surface of veins and arteries which can cause Blood Vessel Inflammation, damage to very small vessels and blood clots, all of which can compromise blood flow to the Heart & other parts of the body. Severe Covid-19 is a disease that affects the endothelial cells, which form the lining of the blood vessels."
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavir...
So our Immune systems concentrate on eating the virus or vax on our blood vessel walls.
This carnivorous effect is fast & furious & leaves clumps of Blood vessel flesh clotting blood cells.
Note: Spike protein is the cause which is also the code used for Pfizer's Vax.
Oct (Blood) Brodsky: It doesn't prove anything but there's a lot of smoke here!"
Leads to the Large Platelets...inflammation & fluid build up....

Most healthy bodies can correct this, but quite a few with compromised immunity can't.
That list grows by the day to now include overactive immune = Hypertension / Diabetes.
Some have instant deadly reaction to vax others never correct Covid virus as body eats them alive.
Long Covid sufferers live with over reactive immune system nibbling at their Blood vessel walls...
This explains the Platelet blocking ...(Stop / Start fitness etc..)
tbb is locked in this world ~ stronger you get the more damage is done & more helpless you become.

Pause! This unhinged carnivorous immune reaction does flag Covid being ramped by GOF.

Here's the weird bit on how it all comes together.
The vaxes mimic Covid spike so both instruct yer body to rip into the coating on yer vessels...
Here's the viral bookend to that! Ramped Immune system keeps attacking after Covid is gone.
So the Vax simply mimics the Virus & attacks perfectly good vaxed vessel walls as if it were Covid!
Seems any Vax that copies Covid by design will ramp the same wild & hungry immune reaction.
We will need to live with the clotting from all vaxes for some time! (Until we decode a clever spike!)
It seems unlikely as New Variants require more immune reaction.

Gonna move this along...
So! When a Long Covid sufferer gets a vax... one of 3 things can happen.
1. The vax provides more food for body to attack vessels even more! ( Got a taste for it now! )
2. The body just keeps eating itself with more of the same but with a generic covid brew! ( It's a life! )
3. The body stops eating itself & licks the generic goop off the Blood Vessels. ( I feel better Now! )
The typical order runs mostly 2 > 3 > 1 (So vax is slightly better than not for Long Covid!)
Weak body's Healing Time is oddly as quick as in perfect mirror of New Body's bad Vax reaction time.

4. Also Fact that Pfizer 2nd dose knocks the shit outta 1st dose do gooders...(Again the reverse Kick!)

Yes! Half Dead Covid Sufferers come alive after the same Vax batch reaction that others die from!
Almost like a very definite product line On / Off switch.
tbb is talking about our Immune systems being the overriding sleeper...as if this is a GOF trick!
This loop surprised scientists who coincidentally race to stake claims on new break-thru cures? Hmm!

Again! tbb is sure this is why the muscle shots were the answer to any/all predicted violent reactions.
The vax had to summon a strong response with "Low immune Elderly at Risk" (At that time!)

The data is coming together to show our immune is ramped strongly & equally by Vax / Covid.
You can measure it...tbb did come upon it! Point is both are ramped & vax is delayed by Muscle jab.
The Vax was designed to go into the muscle to avoid even more rapid Blood Clotting!
tbb thinks crew can also date this decision to coincide with first known Covid Blood vessel reactions.
Same was done for immunity timetable & variant efficacy...they keep adapting to suit the virus.
In otherwords the Muscle Shot was a late extra to avoid Cytokine Hot Shots.
This is actually good news because, had they not...there would've been more corpses.

Crew will note tbb played down the sciency terms...that was to save self embarrassment.
If you want tbb to include... HIT / SLE / APS / CAPS / NETS / VTE / CEC's....No! Thought not!
Again ! This is a working theory & no proof of this complete Vax -React -Heal- Vax -React -Heal...
Loop theory is there but only as Big Pharma breakthrus, not yet seen a link in a wholistic Covid sense.

Looks very much like a coronavirus spike experiment, accidentally released about half way thru.
Spike was to deliver the medicine & then the Dose would activate the play pal Spike when needed.
We know of recent coronavirus spike medicine delivery of this nature for Cancer or Alzheimer's vaxes.
Coincidentally now a few hurried well advanced windfalls of these Covid vaxes...but crew knew that!
As the bloke said ...Where there's Smoke!

PS: This theory is blowing up right now & will likely go in every direction...revisit it when time is right!
Seriously! Must be 100 theories on this getting about but all lack the final piece or loop link.
Please no one quote tbb's theory as it's more of a hunch at this stage.

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Fliplid Thursday, 22 Apr 2021 at 6:21am

Not sure if this link has already been put up but this study was recently done in Denmark showing that there is a similar level of clotting in the general population as with those caused by vaccines. Although may be different causes. Just shows though, a condition that already exists in the community gets very little attention but when something like a vaccine is added into the mix all of a sudden it gets put into the spot light

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00762-5/fulltext

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Supafreak Thursday, 22 Apr 2021 at 6:01pm
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Blowin Thursday, 22 Apr 2021 at 6:11pm

In over a year since Covid hit the UK less than 3000 people under the age of 65 have died with Covid. Average age of death with Covid is over 80 years old.

66.65 million people in the UK.

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JQ Thursday, 22 Apr 2021 at 7:48pm

When considering those numbers, keep in mind that was with the most draconian and wide sweeping infection controls in the history of the planet. We also don't fully understand the long term effects of Covid yet and there are indications that they could be quite bad, not to mention the very clear risks posed from mutations. Mutations which even now, at this early stage, are showing a greater lethality and infectiousness whilst hitting younger people harder.

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truebluebasher Friday, 23 Apr 2021 at 11:05pm

US VAERS 1st July 1997-31st Dec 2013 (Total Vax Deaths) 2149 / 2b doses or 1 death /1m
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/61/6/980/451431
Covid Vax blood clot deaths represent 5 deaths / 1m. (5x all other vaxes / reactions combined)
Covid vaxes deaths are 5,000 / 1b or 1,000 / month (vs) All other vax deaths combined 27.5 / month
Current (approx) Covid Vaccine deaths represent 15 years of all Big Pharma combined vaccine deaths.

Covid Blood Clotting Deaths
(az) World -1 / 153,000 (222 / 34m)
(az) EU -1 / 211,000 or (142 / 30m ) > As Phases get Younger > 1 / 202,000 (169 / 34m )
(az) UK - 1 / 445,000 [ factcheck ] 2nd April 2020 (EU forced UK to correct deaths from 5 > 30)
Crew know that UK make AZ & also hide & corrupt stats from Day 1 for same reason...(It's no secret!)

Denmark / Norway advanced rollouts engage younger phases, naturally their stats increase.
(az) Denmark - 1 / 70,000
(az) Norway - 1 / 40,000
Basically AZ will fade out as Rollouts move away from seniors into younger age phases.
Crew can plainly see why these 2 Nations were 1st to stop the vaccine. (Stats are easily available)
It really is as simple as that...the faster you rollout the faster you're likely to flick AZ.
Media could present the same logical table to gain some cred...why don't they? Crew know that also!

However! tbb tries to present stats fairly...so any/all anomalies should be included for crew to suss!
tbb actually likes checking to defy own research as it's healthy & this proves why! (Let's Flip this Vax!)

And these next half buried not so old news headlines certainly smacks you in the face.
Oct / Nov 2020 ('During Covid vax Trials') South Korea recorded alarming deaths from a "Flu Vax".

108 Deaths / 13.37m or 1/123,796 ( That rates up high with soon to be administered Covid vaxes?)
Consider fewer > 90 Covid deaths were reported during same time period...
Forget lame Killer Covid vax the South Korea Killer Flu Vax has a higher kill rate than Covid virus.

(Note Deaths were mostly elderly but also that elderly mostly get the Flu Vax!)
Just to Flip that...1st death in one city was a 17y/o who died within 2 days of Flu Vax
350 severe reactions / 8.3m or 1/23,714...(And again...this eerily replicates evil Covid vax stats?)
Also that after the Vax Rollout > SK Covid soared... just as Covid Vax Rollout spikes cases...very suss!

Surely tbb has even more explosive links to come...(These following 2 Vaxes were flagged!)
SKY Cell Flu Quadrivalent is brewed by SK Bioscience that also happens to brew troubled AZ vax
https://www.skbioscience.co.kr/en/news/news_01_01?mode=view&id=6
Vaxi grip Tetra Flu Vax is by Sanofi who were conducting 11 US Covid Vax trials from Sept-Dec
https://www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/GSK/sanofi-gsk-phase-1-...
Just saying that all SK Flu Vax parties were also Frontline Covid Trial Pharms at exact same time.
Could be, they supplied vax for free for brewing deals...perhaps a much needed "Blind Senior Trial"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/22/doctors-in-south-korea-cal...

1st -(Upfront!) Rollout was suspended for 3 weeks as 5m Flu Vaxes were exposed to room temp'
That needs to be said as it seems important enough to suspend the Flu Vaxing.

2nd is to question if South Korea were trialling a Covid Vax Placebos in Aged Care Homes.
Recall AZ copped flack from not trialling in elderly...what if this was a sly elderly trial that went bad?
They cover it up ...less than half deaths 48 /108 were examined...(re: Family objected or other!)
If so, then it's possibly another reason why Covid Vax was hurriedly shifted toward muscle injection.
Ok! Just as above tbb is winging this a little...but ya gotta see why...it's suss on every level.

Opposition / Doctors & Frontline wanted vaxing to stop...but "Vax Trial" By any name went ahead.

"The UK vaccination recommendation is in the same vein suspecting anaphylaxis reaction as the cause of deaths occurred after taking Flu Shot in Korea."
(Now ain't that a fucked up thing to say...cause now it really sounds like suss Covid Vax!)

How could 108 die from a Flu Vax in one age group & in only one nation in the space of 2 months?
(Note) Taiwan got supposed same brews & were fine, but they're not contracted to brew AZ.

All during Covid Vax trials AZ Big Pharma is missing Senior Vax stats accidentally on purpose!
This was the curtain raiser to current Vax reactions...Med Science / News brush stroked over this one!
Ever get the feeling you've been had!

tbb can only backs the crew, if they say Flu Vax or Covid vax is worse...coz both hit record evil.
Well stats do show that...if only in 2020 South Korea / 2021 Covid Vax! (Much the same!)
And that's the point...this epic Vax disaster was not given the same treatment as current demon seed.
Guessing Big Pharma won't wanna revisit 2020 Korea Flu brew review during 2021 Flu Vax rollout.
2021 Promo : Killer Covid Vax is no more evil than 2020 South Korean Placebo Vax...(Win! Win!)

All we know is the wild Flu monster is locked in the basement by the same evil Covid Vax Pharma.

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Fliplid Saturday, 24 Apr 2021 at 6:52am

Very clever tbb, I see what you did there.

Love your work, first thing I read in the morning before the papers

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Blowin Saturday, 24 Apr 2021 at 9:21am

Due to Covid 19 virus .........................( insert government or council service ) is currently unavailable until further notice.

Yeah. Nice one.

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truebluebasher Monday, 26 Apr 2021 at 3:18am

More vax = more Covid
tbb previously exampled fastest Top 40 vaxed National Rollouts spike the most Covid
Recently showed highest fastest US States Rollout are Top 10 Covid spreaderz (Still are!)
How about we do US Cities to complete the whole box'n'dice...(tbb has no idea...just saw the chart!)
Global Rollout Rule applies = (Fastest Rollouts ramp Highest outbreaks for largest case drop %)
Basically a large case drop is not so special if they're queuing up for Hospital Beds!
Yes! tbb knows that all sounds back to front...but has exampled such in several past comments.
Again! tbb simply backpedals rollouts to expose weakest links for a less infectious & less costly path.

Full US Chart.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

Vax% Cases / Hospital (Explanation)
43% -30% / +59% Emmit' Mich
39% -30% / +213% Alcona' Mich
38% +18% / +47% Charl 'Mich
37% +16% / +338% Delta Mich
34% Flat% / +113% Montmorency Mich
33% +400% / +349% Coos N.H.
33% +103% /+110% Itasca Minn.
33% -39% / +88% Huron Mich
33% -43% / +62% Antrim Mich
33% -11% / +46% Kalamazoo Mich
33% -9% / +70% Mason Mich
33% -60% / +21% Ostego Mich
32% -25% / +145% Bay Mich
31% -32% / +74% Oakland Mich

#1 > #14 US Frontline Vaccination & Covid cases
Top 14 Vaccination Cities superspread a 'combined' 258% Covid that infests US Hot Spots
Top 14 Vaccination Cities 'combined' have blown out Obamacare by 1735%
Each Avg 34.6% Vax City spreads 18.4% extra covid + ramps City's Health Budget by 123%.

World's most deadly misinformed costly Side Effect (Not including Rollout / Vax costs)!
Once again the media could out this killer Vax virus that burns holes in our Covid Fighting Fund.
Clearly spreading more covid is not the best way to fight covid nor is throwing good money away.
ALL Nations / States / Cities that ramp Vax > Spread Covid & blow 100%+ Health Resource.
Gotta be a better way crew...not following these swindlerz into an early grave...had enough of this!

Anomalies
31% +200% / (n/a) Stevens Minn
31% -8% / -2% Dimmit Texas
28% +829% / -56% Pecos Texas (Both Low Hospital)
12% +433% / (n/a)

Low Vax = Low Hospital Cases
2% -23% / + 3% Dukes Mass.
1% Flat% / -62% Nantucket Mass.
So by not hitching a ride to Hot Town on the Partridge Family Bus we can still save the World.
Just joking...of course we're all gonna jump the queue....coming thru...outta my way you! Cough Cough!

tbb's fav singer / player / songwriter Kiara Jack had it sorted long before the world even woke up!

PS: Thanx Fliplid ...tbb has gotta administer a 2nd dose of that suss SKY CellFlu Wriggly Doggie Vax.
(Take it easy!) Now Listen to this!
South Korea dumped 2020 Gates WHO #1 Doggie Vax just as Oz started brewing it for 2021
Lesson for the Gromz...tbb got smug & took a step back & got tangled up in a can of Bloodworms.
South Korean Blood Worm Invasion resulting in 1,716% rise in Shower Roses...sounds gross huh!

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Blowin Monday, 26 Apr 2021 at 7:10am

What the fck is going on when a Chinese tourist can happily fly to Australia whilst Australians aren’t permitted to leave their own country and thousands of Australians can’t even return home?

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geek Monday, 26 Apr 2021 at 9:38am

He’s not a tourist, his wife and kids live in Victoria. He was being a tourist in Perth

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Supafreak Monday, 26 Apr 2021 at 9:46am
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Blowin Monday, 26 Apr 2021 at 10:05am
geek wrote:

He’s not a tourist, his wife and kids live in Victoria. He was being a tourist in Perth

Fair enough if true. I’ve just heard it reported that it was a Chinese tourist which seems strange if he was an Aussie.

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batfink Monday, 26 Apr 2021 at 4:41pm

I thought I heard reports that it was a fellow who had returned from India! Not sure now, but thought that was what I heard on the radio.

Nice work TBB.

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seaslug Monday, 26 Apr 2021 at 6:50pm

For clarity to all the above

"Two million West Australians were plunged into a three-day lockdown after recently returned travellers (man and wife) from India infected another guests staying in adjacent rooms at the Mercure Hotel.

One man — from Melbourne (recently returned from China) — then spent five days exploring Perth while infectious, passing the virus on to at least two other people.

A pregnant nurse in another nearby room at the Mercure Hotel also contracted the deadly virus from the Indian travellers – who The West Australian yesterday revealed left for the subcontinent four months ago in order to attend his own wedding and fly back his new bride."

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seaslug Monday, 26 Apr 2021 at 8:22pm

A top European Union official said Americans who have been vaccinated against COVID-19 should be able to travel to Europe by summer, easing existing travel restrictions.

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seaslug Monday, 26 Apr 2021 at 8:22pm

The United Kingdom has reached another COVID-19 vaccination milestone with over half of the population having had at least one injection, health secretary Matt Hancock said.

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 27 Apr 2021 at 12:11am

tbb's tribute to #1 swellnet supafreak's (Vaccinate or not)

{ South Korea's cute puppy Vax ends it's horror run }
History of when & what went wrong...OMG tbb...where the hell is this going!
Trust tbb ...we gotta do this as World Media are asleep! Promise of highest quality Misinformation!
Rollout Starts!
2009 > 2019 Flu Vax Rollout - 25 Deaths
2012 > SK Adong Plant (140m vax/year) Can fast track a Pandemic Vax.
2015- SKYCellFlu (re;US 2012) Canine Kidney Cells
World First (PFS) PreFilled Syringe (2-8*) Cell Vax for Kidz & 2nd only to (US :2012) for Adults.
Trial "Normal" Adverse Reactions (47%) Intramuscular Jab not for Thrombo'/ Anti coagulant / Preggo
This site link is walled & shadowed but well worth a read for similar Covid Vax Reactions & Stats.
https://www.mims.com/thailand/drug/info/skycellflu%20quadrivalent%20pref...
May 2018 - WHO Inspection Tour for {Gates Export sticker} for > Outbreaks.
https://www.who.int/immunization_standards/vaccine_quality/WHOPIR_SKBios...
2018 - Flu Vax Rollout 131(Unusual Reactions)

Sept 2019 - SKYCellFlu Vax wins WHO Export approvals
http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=36070
2019 -Flu Vax Rollout 177(Unusual Reactions) > 1,500 die within 7 days of Flu Vax.

April 2020 CEPI bankroll $7m INO4800 Covid Vax Phases 13 July- 8th Sept Phase 2 > 4 sites
May- 2020 DW2008 Covid Anti Viral Treatment Trials Phase 1 complete Phase 2 June 2020
June- Genexine GX-19 Covid Vax Trial Enrolment Sept 2020 - end of 2021...(re: US FDA Hyleukin-7)
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July - Buzzer Midge Blood Worms in Nation's Water > Shower Rose Filter sales up 1,716%
tbb checked all Town names & Tap Worms spread Nationwide (Including - Vax brew towns)
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200720000712
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/07/119_292848.html
https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2020/07/20/national/socialAffairs/t...
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Mid Aug - Flu Vax is now in Final Manufacture Stage (Note: Blood Worms) Water is main component!
13th Aug SK Bioscience (Cell-Tech) partner to brew Novavax (CEPI- Gates)
Flu Vax Rollout (Adult Pay group from 25% > 50% to now Vax in fear of Covid)
8th Sept Kids + Adult Pay > 22 Sept Preggo > 13th Oct 62+ ( 13.8 - 19m / +37% Qualify in 2020

1st -14th Sept - South Korean Vaccine Error & need for PFS Pre Filled Syringes
Doctors 76% / Nurses 41% (In order of Mistakes)
100% New Vax 50% Tired-Time-Process 30% Shake-Settle-Spill-Leak 15% Bent-Same Needle >Mix
file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/vaccines-09-00117-v2.pdf
Sept - SKBioscience sign with AstraZeneca
22nd Sept - Govt - SK halt Flu Vaccine Rollout
("Not a problem with Vax production - 5m left in Room temp /distribution!") Right!
13th Oct -Rollout Resumes & the death Toll starts (Doctors /opposition say enough but Govt press on.)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/22/doctors-in-south-korea-cal...
20th Oct - Flu Vax Rollout - 18k / 615k from the Room Temp recall > (Were checked & Ok)
26th Oct - 1,200/14.7m Reactions > 431 (Unusual Reactions) > 108 / 13.37m deaths
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20201128000077
October -Malaysia / Singapore claim no Deaths! (This gives the game away)
tbb: Neighbouring Countries import pure Vax (Save 80% Import) then "Fill & Finish" in own Labs.
Therefore they don't have the Water with White Flecks (Dead half live Buzzer Midge Larvae).
Normally Ok to swallow but not shoot still live ones into yer Muscles & veins.
tbb thinks it was a simple oversight not to filter the water at time of brewing.
The pause in the Rollout was not for Room temp but for Month Lifecycle of Buzzer Midge larvae.
The room temp may have actually killed off the Bugs (vs) Cold keeping them in Stasis!
Could be that when the bugs thawed in the warm blood all hell broke loose!

Reckon SK sussed the bugz but thought to let them die to save the vax...(Shh!)
Either Larvae survived or the Vax clogged (note) Sept: Inadequate Shaking of Vax 19.1% -51.6%

Equally timeline shows Elderly were targeted for similar Vax Trials in Sept (Can't rule that out!)
Extra Vaxes mixed with High error rate of room temp vax was also recorded by Health Authorities.
Add that SK Lab is focused more on contracts than rollouts...as past years also reflect that .

Nov -NBP 2001 Covid Vax Phase 1 Trial

Nov -New York Times : "How South Korea's Flu Vaccine Scare offers Lessons for Other Nations"
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/world/asia/korea-flu-vaccine-coronavi...

Jan 2021 SK GBP510 (Gates-Wave 2 WHO) + GSK ASO3 Trials
Feb World Leading Vax Makers are amongst last to Rollout Covid Vax
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/after-initially-leading-world-...
March SKBioscience suspends Killer SKYCellflu to brew Novavax for 2x more money! (Yep!)
April SK LDS Low Dead Space Needle (20-30%) more Vax Volume 5 >7 shots (France / USA)
Pfizer ramped doses from 1.3 > 2b with LDS ( 360m needles / yr) tbb said Oz should be doing this!
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/how-south-korea-turbocharged-...
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READ THIS...
* SKBioscience : "Global Covid Vax $1.3b 2020 > $16,1b 2025"
https://www.kedglobal.com/newsView/ked202103300004
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Also note Oz takes up Star Dog Kidney Cell Vax as South Korea dumped it for 2x Covid Vax bucks!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-03-27/flu-new-vaccine-cell-based...
Meaning Gates did this and the bankrolled Oz new CSL Tulla Tub Cell Lab for WHO outpost.
Dregz of the Belt'n'Road...be interesting how much 5 eyes let Gates' Chinese into new Oz Lab.

Anyhow! That's the worst Vaccine story ever...crew can have a crack at solving the record Death Toll.
tbb thinks it was the Sea Monkeys or Buzzer Midges or perhaps that Evil Blind Vax Test!

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Supafreak Tuesday, 27 Apr 2021 at 5:31am

Interesting links there TBB , huge effort again thank you , here’s a new study release of long covid . https://trialsitenews.com/wusm-st-louis-breakthrough-study-reveals-long-...

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 28 Apr 2021 at 2:01am

Australia 2021 Recalibrated Rollout
16th Feb - TGA : Aged 18yr > 65+ Case by Case basis with account to potential risks)"
24th Feb - ATAGI : Prolong 15 mins observation time to 30 mins.

8th March - ATAGI : AZ (restricted to over U50 yrs - Under 65yrs)
19th - AZ not recommended for CVST / HIT / PEG reactions

21st April - Govt > Put up 50% of Cost if States set up Covid Clinics
22nd - Pfizer (Restricted to U50 yrs Only)
22nd- Pfizer Ok for Over 65 Risk Only at end of Phase.
22nd - Aged care residents wait until end of Phase 1 a/b for Pfizer vax.
22nd- People of all ages in remote communities must use Pfizer
22nd - Pfizer for Aboriginal / TSI Phase 1b 55 >50 yrs & over + 18 > 16/17 & over
22nd- Many different Vaxes at them Mass Vax centre thingies. (What could go wrong!)
22nd- City Chemist 2a Rollouts are stalled > Rural Town Chemists are still Ok to Go!
23rd - ATAGI - Where there is no Pfizer / No risk & consent is given > U50 can man up for an AZ.
27th - Astra Zeneca is prohibited for Disabled Care (Pfizer Only All Ages) > Mass Vax. (Get Mobile.)
If Disabled wanna jab then they can can bloody well crawl to interstate Mass Vax...(No free Vax bus?)
27th April - AstraZeneca is prohibited for Aboriginal / TSI (Pfizer Only All Ages)

27th April - Oz Vax Stats > (Happy 2 millionth Vax Oz)
Efficient Rollout : March 68% > April 43%
Safe Rollout : March 63% > April 52%
GP Vax allocation labelled "Bizarre!"
Willingness to Vax...(Women vaxerz are down 10% & feature less than Men!) Less than 50%
18-29yrs =28% / 30-50yrs over = 46% / 55yrs over = 55% / 70yrs over = 61%
Note: 30 y'o is 10x more likely to survive from Covid than a 50y'o.
Oz slipped largest 10-15% Vax safety stats pre Covid & chix are 10% more risk again with AZ Vax.
https://marlin-prod.literatumonline.com/cms/attachment/3ca219ef-c42e-440...
Good News Week harp on about 75% do-gooder vaxerz yet PM would sweat to lock in 45%
Oz brewed up #1 anti vaxerz all on their own by Bully tactics, Lies & censorship! (Now up shit creek!)

3rd May - Over 50's GP / respiratory Pfizer jabz must wait until 1a +1b Rollout Ends
17th - GP clinics are prohibited from vaxing Pfizer to Over 50's..forever (Maybe!)
10th or 17th or ! 30,000 vax / day Olympic sized Mass SD breach with 6 [P] Bays & no free Vax Bus.

Oz AZ Vax Import supplies
Jan - AZ advise Oz they can only provide 1.2m / 3.8m
28th Feb- 1st 300,000 / 3.8 AZ doses arrive in Oz
1st week - Another 417,000 = 717,000 doses + standard 530,000 = 1.237m doses Total
EU tipped off Oz to cut export Vax to 250.
Italy > EU block Anagini AZ export to Oz of 250,700 doses (Oz is the only 1 of 491 orders blocked)
7th April - Oz PM: "EU have blocked 3.1m doses to Oz!"(EU deny this > Blocking 250,700 once)
8th April - Reports of 1.3m or (1.247m) of 3.8m doses delivered to Australia
(Note: This accords with AZ Jan' understanding with Oz PM.)

EU are suing AZ (Not Best Efforts)
Importing AZ EU Vax into UK but not Exporting UK vax to EU.
Not meeting Targets ( AZ only delivered 30% of vax) 70m / 180m doses

AZ / OZ Letter of Intent is equally slippery & the (30% Slack effort / problem Vax is the same!)
EU are gonna block AZ supply to UK & rip up future AZ 100m deals!
AZ said bring on the Law suit...Too easy!
Judge: Rather not be branded the one bankrupting an Emergency Vax Supplier mid Pandemic?

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NatCab > Team Australia queue jumps to Priority Phase 1b (Indigenous 55+ / 70+)
Olympians always said they were 'next most deserving' behind Frontline emergency...

25th Feb- IOC : (Coates) "Team Australia will be vaxed by end of May > Start of June at latest (Bingo!)
Excuse : 'Paralympians, Team Docs, Officials, Indigenous + some other nations are already vaxed'
(There was some Public Backlash!)
AOC : "Dopey Team Australia are not Professional Drug Cheats."
Please note we paid NatCab to fast track the 50+ AZ so it looks a little less like a VIP queue jump!
But also..[L]Aspen will vax the Team (re: Oz Open / Cruise & Age Care outbreak superspreaderz)

Yeah! But! That's only so Coaches can fast track AZ - 2nd dose from 12 weeks > 4wks!...('Well durr!')
So! We we can tally that as an Double Olympic Gold WR Queue Jump ?
("Ok! So you want us to say, we're Drug Cheats!") Well yeah! Team Australia are Vax Drug Cheats!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/apr/27/australian-olympic-team-to...

Mon, 3rd May ...Team Australia's "Nationally Significant Priority exemption Double Queue Jump Jabz."
Under 50 ( 450-480 Athletes) - Pfizer (4-5 weeks vax) Paralympians already vaxed?
Over 50 (1,520-1,600) -AZ ( 12 weeks vax ...re: Private > AZ (WR) 2nd Dose Booster)

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-australian-olympians-have-...
Concerns lie with Athletes wading in Covid Arena not the returning 2,000 Mutant outbreak.
No mention of Aussie Olympians hurdling Hot Hotels on return?

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the developed nations have managed to fight the spread of COVID-19 to an extent, thanks to the quick vaccine rollouts and better crisis management.However, the same cannot be said for the developing nations as cases have been spiraling out of control with limited infrastructure further adding to the troubles.Amid these devastating times, the New Zealand government has come out in support of the people of India and assured every possible help to deal with the current catastrophe.https://kalkinemedia.com/news/world-news/nz-extends-helping-hand-to-indi...

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truebluebasher Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 12:44am

1st March India Rollout Ramps Vaxes Skyward to 12th April then Peaks then starts to drop.
6th March India Covid Cases also start Ramping Skyward to 24th then Peak then starts to drop.

Every Fast Rollout has Ramped Covid until Vax Peak & then pull back on the vax & cases back down.
This is the only brake they have to counter the skyrocketing Covid Vax Death Spike.
It seems each time when Vax death numbers peak, either town or Doctors wise up to cool it down.
However! Some try pouring more Vax over the flames & ramp more deaths...Stop! Stop!
This is why experts are reluctant to call the case drop...they're testing the waters on how much Vax?

tbb has exampled ALL top 20 fastest Rollout Nations / States / Cities spiking fastest Covid outbreaks.
For the record! Yes! tbb shared his findings with appropriate Global Rollout advocates.
Reason being...there is little to no consensus on most alarming repetitive rapid Rollout repercussions.

More Vax = More breaches in Hot Covid settings = More Tests = More Cases = More Deaths
Stats show when you can adjust vax rollout to reclaim Health clinics you can avert the crisis.

Fastest largest pilgrimage to vax at most crowded Hottest covid Spots can only end in Record Deaths!

eg: Scomo Demo squished up to 80 people into a tiny clinic for his Vax.


Worst part was, no one said a word about one breach let alone hundreds on Frontline. (Normal?)
Health Minister's & Premier's all muck about with Tests / jab & then all too often lie & Joke about it!

Govts spruik vax as an instant silver bullet & vaxerz leave 2x infectious in overcrowded Hot Spots.
Oz Govt even certifies 7 day vaxerz while they're 2x ripe? Pass all tests & Plane lands with Covid!
Not one nation follows their own Vax script advice...not even close...(More than 50% are careless)
All are in a hurry to to put one foot in the grave.

Best wishes & get well soon India...Rollout safely at yer own pace - it's not a race!

PS:
tbb nearly lost his daughter to cancer, now 5 days in a hospital bed battling a 'mystery virus'.
Salute to med staff that saved her again & for making tbb the most fortunate dad in the world.
Qld Health has been booted about lately, but they can still perform miracles, just not for the TV.

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Supafreak Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 3:21am

Glad to hear your daughter survived TBB , must be tough for her and your family at the moment. Hopefully things turn for the better now mate , wishing her a speedy recovery and some peace and happiness for all involved.

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Fliplid Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 5:43am

Hope all goes well with your daughters recovery tbb. Wishing you all the best legend

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frog Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 7:39am

All the best TBB - daughters are very precious.

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shoredump Friday, 30 Apr 2021 at 5:46am

Us humans only live for about 30,000 days. That’s not much is it. So the chances of someone dying on any given day is 1:30,000. The day of your wedding for example. Obviously it’s not as simple as that and it increases as you go and some days are more risky than others but you know where I’m going. So that means the chances any of us dropping dead on any given fortnight is 1:2142. Anything you do in that fortnight doesn’t necessarily mean it caused your death, it’s just where the natural death number is

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Blowin Friday, 30 Apr 2021 at 5:48am

Shit TBB . Hope she’s OK.

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shoredump Friday, 30 Apr 2021 at 7:10am

Good luck with her recovery TBB, she will be ok now I’m sure

Shame there’s no option to edit. Knowing you’re a night owl and me a lark, I would change my post. You know I’m on your side... I had to Google this page to make the comment I had in my head, wasn’t even aware of the conversation above. My comment had nothing to do with it, more to encourage vaccination so we don’t sleepwalk into an India type situation.

She’s lucky she’s got you mate, kids don’t want presents they want your presence. Sounds like your on the right path

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Craig Friday, 30 Apr 2021 at 7:56am

Yeah, all the best TBB. Hopefully your daughter makes a full recovery.

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seaslug Friday, 30 Apr 2021 at 8:15am

2nd all the above comments TBB, I'm sure the Swellnet community thoughts are with your daughter, yourself and family

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seaslug Friday, 30 Apr 2021 at 11:21am

Next claim, the Byron Bay influencers should be all over this

"Posts circulating on social media have claimed COVID-19 vaccines adversely affect women's periods. The suggestions, which have been shared by self-described "wellness" enthusiasts in the US, have drawn comments from others claiming menstrual abnormalities are being experienced by thousands of women as a consequence of the vaccine rollout. Some claims went even further, suggesting that some women were experiencing changes to their periods, or even severe illness, simply by being in close contact with people who had been vaccinated."

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truebluebasher Friday, 30 Apr 2021 at 9:45pm

Thanx crew...it means a lot & stoked to pass the vibe on...very special...{tbb wells up} Salute!
Passing on our good fortune & return the love to the crew & families doin' it tough...get well soon.

...just gonna play on this Vax fear a little...it does get a bit personal...

seaslug is onto this...parents fear teen girls getting the Vax...Nords / Japan & others steer clear.
Oz currently has a few teens hitting menopause ...suing HPV (Robbed them of Youth & families!)
https://www.lawfirms.com/resources/medical-malpractice/medical-malpracti...
Fertile young women are at most risk of all vaxes & likely always will be.
AZ Vax have listed "Chix Problems" re: Menstruation > 100's easily now 1,000's with -/+ Bleeding.
This from AZ own Shopper Docket...(Page 80) + 1,000's Gastro > more an issue with Chix by design.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

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Qld Premier :"No supplies for Mass Vax so Qldurrz will go to GP's & Chemists!"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-08/qld-covid-vaccine-supply-astrazen...

Naturally tbb was caught off guard by his alarming Mass Vax Call Up!

Phone Rings: "Wanna shoot some Hoops with AZ jocks down at the Mass Vax Hall."
tbb manned up & donated his Vax for the Cause / VIP Team Oz surfer can now queue jump for Gold.

We covid neglected outpatients expect any Vax appointments to be cancelled...few will buy into it!
It's dangerous & inconsiderate to instruct Outpatients to Vax farthest from home & Health Clinics.

Can't expect weakest patients to man up without being screened for record long untreated illness.
Qld Health can't fuse Outpatient Specialists with Phase 2a rollout! That's not Happening!
Outpatients will rightly forgo fake Vax screening for much needed often cancelled appointments.
Give us 100x vaxes & we're still too weak to fight a virus...we just wanna see a doctor thanks!
You can just feel their despair spreading gloom over your depression.

Govt : No free Vax Bus & don't shoot up yer Vax near our Health Clinics...( Vax is completely safe? )
Baddies : Just hail our Free VIP Anti Vax Bus to any Govt Vax Clinic of yer choice. ( Vax is pure Evil? )
https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/K3DycqybGhvug8Olp2G3dhF4clo=/636x0/h...
https://www.skeptics.com.au/2020/07/19/call-to-action-on-anti-vaccinatio...

Q: Do crew know of any Oz Vax centre offering free assist vax rides for weaklings!
[ Chinese Didi Drive Thru ] Provides free rides (cap?) for Covid Lockdown Tests.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9124969/Popular-ride-sharing-se...
[ Chinese Didi Vaccinate ] Provides free rides ( $15 cap) for Covid frontline Vax.
https://www.hospitalhealth.com.au/content/clinical-services/news/didi-su...
That's all tbb can find...not looking healthy!

Being directed 10km away from vital Health response! "No one can hear yer scream from here mate!"
Saying NO.... will come at a cost....(Qld Health Computer says No Appointments for Anti Vaxerz!)
Feel better with a health check & Med practice back up...not doping up for the Jocks Shootout!

PS: Our local GP is full of No name / No ID Filipino Teen Slaves getting vaxed...just not us locals.

Phoned National Coronavirus Helpline 1800 020 080
Introduced myself & bloke said he must have more ID & he paused then hung up on me...
Tried again & Chick wants ID & tbb just wanted some help...she knew little of Qld Vax Rollout!
Think you gotta trade some more ID to buy each answer? Worth trading tbb's Postcode for this one....
Chick : "Basketball Courts are cool as they have better Vax fridges than GPs."(re: Titan's snack Bar!)

Really freaky listening to this chick rock her chair in an empty warehouse in some parallel universe.
Sounded like she was chained up...like one of them [L] Staffers trying to break out!
tbb: "Hello! Is this [L] Dobber line...hang on a minute...isn't this the same voice!

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truebluebasher Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 2:19am

India. {RIP}
Countries / US States / US Cities + now Indian States review.
tbb apologizes for messy delivery but we're all new to this..gets a bit tricky!
Sure! It's a big undertaking but we can't live not lending a hand...here's to India.
Key:
< Down (Vax Rollout) > Up (*Election Poll Queues)
#Covid Case Rank / Vax Peak-day / State Rollout rank / # Cases/day (All represent in '1,000's')
Eg:
Current (1) / < Down (Peak) 375,000 vax-day / Maharashtra / 700,000 cases-day
(2)<315 Uttar Pradesh 260
(10) <215 Madhya Pradesh 89
(6)<380 Rajasthan 107
(7)<340 Gujarat 92
(3)<230 Karnataka 196
(12)150> Bihar 70
(4) 150> *Kerala 156
(11)<270 *West Bengal 69
(13)<120 Andhra Pradesh 67
(18)165>Odisha 33
(5)<250 Chhattisgarh 122
(16)<90 Punjab 41
(15)95> Telangana 50
(14)100>Haryana 59
(8)<75 Delhi 92 (8)
(9)125>*Tamil Nadu 90 (9)
(17)<60 Jharkhand 41
(20)<45> Jammu and Kashmir 16
(21)<40> Himachal Pradesh 12
(19)<60 Uttarakhand 27
(22)<45*Assam 11
(24)<15> Tripura 0.6
(23)10> Goa 10

Notes: Current Highest Cases-State # as to Highest / Fastest Vax amounts (1,000's)
1-375 /2-315 /3-230 /4-156 /5-220 /6-380 /7-340 /8-75 /9-125 /10-215 /11-270 /12-250 /13-120
The list obviously represents More & rapid Vaccination = Drives More Covid Cases > Deaths
Crew know this is not new, nor is it isolated...It is in fact the world wide norm & easy to sort!

*Poll Queues as to Covid Rank - Vax 1,000's > 4-156 / 9-125 / 11-270 / 22-45
4 Poll Queue States were spreading less Covid than Top 8 Red Hot Vax Queue Rollout States
tbb explains that Poll Booth Crowds do not mix Sick crowds with 2x infectious Vax Patients.
All roads and perimeters near Vax Clinics are lined with Covid & represent Highest level contagion.
Everything you touch gives you Covid...every single vax into next vaxer is the next Covid Case..
More Vaccinations = Maximum Covid...It cannot possibly present any other way during an outbreak.

(WHO & India now know this) Again! read on for more proof.

8 Highest Vax States brewed highest Covid Cases.
All these states were stripped 100-200,000 vaxes /day supplies (to cool down)

# 8 vax state with 10th highest cases argued best of a bad bunch to keep same supplies.
#11 vax State with 4th highest statistics was afforded a measly 10,000 extra as a less risky trial...
This last one is just enough to continue whist mopping up crowded covid vax contamination.

Just to be sure here, lets double check strategic vax withdrawal is not argued away as Vax shortage.
There is no vax shortage as Low case states were afforded to ramp vax 75-100,000 / day
Ask! If they had enough Vax...then why not throw it at Top 8 to save 10,000's of lives?

(Pause)
Flick any News / TV / Print & all Drum into you that Vax will save them...We need more Vax & Faster!
That ain't gonna happen People! Why! Cause the Rapid Rollout is exactly what was killing them.
BBC : Bhramar Mukherjee Michigan Uni Biostatistician
"Told India they needed to administer 10m shots a day instead of being complacent with 3m/day,"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56345591
tbb: (26th April ) Michigan is #1 US 12 cities 31-43% vaxed = (Highest US Covid & Hospital cases!)
Just thinking an expert from Michigan his ordering India to copy them...Holy Shit is that fucked up!
You'd have to wonder with same recipe for disaster ...did India actually employ Bhramar Mukherjee.

Anyhow! Only now they know they'll save more lives from Withdrawing the Vax from Hottest Spots.
These are some of the biggest boldest death defying Rollout decisions & Vax is not welcome.
Crew can now see..WHO woke up to the fact that Rapid Rollouts spread Covid & kill million/s.
tbb said he shared this with the right folk & hopes all rollouts now come with clutch & brakes..
Pedal to The Metal flat out over the edge was never gonna pass the Test! It was fucking Mental!

Being clear here! This is Not Anti Vax but about failing to isolate vaxers & contaminating CBD's

You'll note India's cases levelled & dropped off the back of these stats but equally rose again.
Crew can see that the highest Rollouts are still too infected 270-300,000/day must drop to 200,000.
Madhya Pradesh has been noted & rewarded so why not gear down fast to that manageable level.
Target would be 200,000 vax/day =100,000 cases /day (This is the less deadly default Point)
Vax companies need to pull back from profit...we need the exact right dose of Vax & not a drop more.

This gets lowered as other states can ramp Vax to 100- 150 vax day = 50-75,000 cases/day
tbb feels India are onto this now & should be able to take the heat out of it & next time!
Still can't be sure this is just some knee jerk reaction & they go back to ramping Vax and killing.
At 100-200 vax / day India can cherry pick their best states & keep refining their own Indian model.

Full credit to frontline Stats...vital work from these guys in such a damned region under threat!
The fact that people are on the ground assisting & counting the toll is to be rewarded & lends Hope.
https://www.thehindu.com/data/covid-19-vaccination-rate-falls-sharply-in...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103458/india-novel-coronavirus-covi...

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Blowin Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 4:03am

Love your contributions TBB.

Gold - “ VIP Team Oz surfer can now queue jump for Gold.”

Wonder if Long Vax will ever get the same fear treatment from the media as Long Covid...sarcasm. Pretend it doesn’t exist and mock those who suggest it does.

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 7:42am

Personally, I like to listen to the experts living the reality of covid, and those that dedicate their life’s work to something




Once we’re vaccinated we can get on with life

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Blowin Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 7:41am

Over 130 people made blind by the AZ vaccine.....nice.

Long AZ!

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 7:44am

So less than fishing hooks?
Sweet

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Blowin Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 7:53am

Shoredump - Here’s the context for your link :

“The landmark ADAPT study shows 32 per cent of 81 COVID-19 patients diagnosed at St Vincent’s Hospital’s testing clinics reported still feeling ill 240 days post-infection.” Not peer reviewed BTW. 32 percent of 81 patients is a grand total of 25 people who have long Covid. Coincidentally enough this includes two members of one couple who suffer from “fatigue” and who I’ll bet are on disability pension as a result....

The 19 percent quoted in the link equates to 16 people who are probably aged 85 plus and with multiple previously existing serious health problems out of the 30,000 odd Aussies who’ve tested positive. That’s what the experts say....if the media tries to spin this truth that’s a problem.

How’s the photo of Derek Young. Taken with lighting strategically placed under his face to make him look fatigued and haggard. Show us those bags under your eyes Derek! Classic.

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 8:07am

Maybe you’d be better off mocking him personally about long covid not existing, probably more helpful

Like geology, the virus world for humans is evolving

What I don’t get is how you can see images coming out of India and think it’s fake

What if I told you your father in law is faking it so you both get a free pension?

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Blowin Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 8:14am

I don’t think Covid or long Covid are fake, I think the media representation of their threat is exaggerated. The link you posted is a perfect example of this tendency to exaggerate. If the article were honest it would specify the fact that it’s referring to literally less than 30 individuals amongst a cohort of 30,000 Australians who have tested positive for Covid.

Does that sound fair enough?

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 8:33am

Of course, I totally agree with that

Just like anti vaxxers exaggerate the risk of getting vaccinated

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Blowin Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 8:34am

I’m not anti vaxxer. I’ve been vaccinated against all kinds of things and I’m grateful for it.

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 8:52am

BTW, 3/4 of my initial post was for TBB

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 12:16pm

I just want the truth to be known so the correct decisions can be made, so I’ll post up fair numbers, no exaggerations.
If you say it equates to 30 out of 30,000 that’s not right. It’s 30 from their study at one hospital.
Pretty sure the accepted percentage of hospitalisations from CV is 20%, so that means 6000 hospitalisations in our country with 20% or 1200 suffering long covid.
Assuming CV is going to just keep going round and round like the flu means it’s going to knock on your door sooner or later.
So if you don’t vaccinate, that means you have a 1 in 5 chance of requiring hospitalisation and a 1 in 25 chance of long covid symptoms.
Every vaccine available protects from serious illness between 95-100 percent.
If you take the middle road of 97.5% then you increase your luck by X40.
Vaccinated people in the coming years will have a 1 in 200 chance of hospitalisation and a 1 in 1000 chance of long covid.
That’s how I see it

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Blowin Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 12:57pm

Incorrect. You keep applying the statistics as though they are appropriate for the entire population equally. Unless you are both elderly and of poor health the statistics you are applying do not factor. It’s entirely inappropriate to claim that a healthy Australian has a one in five chance of being hospitalised due to Covid if they catch the virus. The statistics are skewed so heavily towards those with impaired health that it’s incorrect to the point of meaningless to try and make blanket claims regarding someone’s chances of suffering unless you are saying that the chances of a younger and/ or healthy person getting long Covid are negligible. Some young and/ or healthy people do suffer but the odds are so tiny as to negate risk.

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 1:35pm

Yeah I know I was just sticking to averages. I agree with that comment. I really don’t get why you are pushing against this vax if you support others. We are all in the same boat with the newness factor, but it is being touted as safe by those that really know what they’re talking about. So what’s the big deal in taking it? I’ve got thrombophilia which means I clot easily just like my 82yo dad, whose already vaxxed. I’ll also be taking it to do my bit and help shut it down.
Are you this hysterical when your partner takes the much more harmful pill? It just pisses me off a bit because 12 months ago the nation went against my wishes of staying open, and went into lockdown so we could buy time for a vaccine. You literally scolded me for my view. I was against it because science said we likely wouldn’t get one and I was against burdening the youth. Why wait and weaken while we do I said. Anyway I shut up and played ball hard to be part of the team to get the result, now we are here , and we’ve got a vax. I was wrong, but now you’ve decided you’ll let me and my dad get herd immunity for you because you’ve changed your mind.
I call bullshit on those that say it’s their body and their choice, the way I see it is you’ve got to stay away from humanity if you take that view, just like someone with the flu needs to stay home. It’s time for teamwork, it’s time to help do some of the lifting. Your attitude is keeping me locked out of Indo