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Yeah too right,
Get back to the real subject, stop the stereo type male Aussi crap on your East island blow ins??

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true morris I got sucked into it im no longer involved cheers and beers

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Not trying to bag the Kiwi's wellymon. I know heaps of cool bro's from NZ. Am I being too cryptic? As the subject is violence on South Oz's West Coast, the rumour was that this bloke was knocked off? That's what I heard! Is that on topic enough for you?

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A murder will fit the 60 MINUTES story just perfect...

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Ay smell-dog, it's turned into the huge turd that can't be flushed.

I think we need Dr Phil over there to sort out the conflict

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Bloody hell YS, there's an interesting curveball! Hadn't heard that one meself.

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You sound to tough wellmon telling people to cut the shit out. The only reason sa isent crowded" is it's a long way to go for most and the shark factor.not because of the "camera smashing".margs main breaks are crowded because you are only 3hours from Perth and have several large rural towns close by. Brazo and kiwis arnt the problem .locals in the nw ha.where at tombies don't think anyone lives there mate except the people that work there. Red bluff people that live there run the fucking camp for surfers. I forgot when you come from margs you think you are a local in the nw. Also was up there in that area recently surfed nearly everyday every time by myself And took pictures of the waves my ,memory isent as good as it used to be.

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Yeah YS,I thought exactly that is what happened from your last posts.
"A few years ago I heard a rumour that he never really left and is still there, somewhere, if you know what I mean......"
Well so be it he obviously caused some mayhem, It would not doubt me at all if that happened down there.
I know an old bloke "Bear" that used to live there years ago , now lives up Seal Rocks way, he told me some classic stories from down that way.
If you know from some of my comments, you would know Im just stirring the pot a little, as the life we live is short and we have to make it fun.
Here's to the SA locals, Ive seen all of this stuff before in NZ, all good just keep it real.
Here's to all the blow ins that travel down that ways, keep it real too.
RESPECT

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I was looking deeper into having a beach guardian system along the coast. And it looks like it will work and is being done in other places https://www.facebook.com/BeachGuardians?ref=nf. If each local picked up rubbish as well as visiting surfers the coast would be a whole lot cleaner and even more encouraging for more people to come and enjoy the coast and scenery. It's about the education of people, on how long rubbish takes to break down, and that its everyone's responsibility to keep the ocean clean. Rewarding people publically will certainly encourage people to be more respectful of the environment. I suggested the beach guardian crew call the club to see what support they can offer.

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@yorksurfer This the guy?http://flic.kr/p/eQAwk3

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Thanks Fraser I'm actually relieved to put that rumour to bed. He used to wear a red helmet back then too from memory. So he's down the South Coast now?
Sorry 60 minutes, drop that from your story. And the makers of Wolf Creek Three will have dig deeper for a new angle for their sequel!

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Um sorry Yorkes that photo is over twenty years old unfortunately.I think said rumour may be true still unresolved possible murder.The only guy down this way with a red helmet is called Dog Dick.

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Old "Dog Dick"????

Thats pretty funny FG, why does he have a nickname called Dog Dick for?

Wouldn't Horse be better?

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whoever thoght someone said NZ isnt crowded is dreaming. Any one been to Raglan or Taranaki recently. reef breaks full of muppets with no idea about respecting locals. To the red neck kiwi haters of this forum, remember anzac carnts. Most Kiwis in OZ are there to work hard at jobs a lot of Ozzies dont want to do. To be rated in the same sentnce as Brazos is fuckin offensive. If Oz got invaded who is gunna be there to fight with you, not fuckin brazzo bozos, last time I looked we all blew in from somewhere at some time even the koories, people like to have selective memories dont they. To those kiwi haters , please dont ever make the trip east coz ya aint welcome.

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Sid ,
I didn't ask for his rank file and closest relatives . just a nickname . <90% of regiment have nicknames so others can know who they are without disclosing real info /details .

I'll make a call eitherway .

As for the other IDIOTS trying to stir the Pot .
Leave ya attitude and bravado where they belong .
Isolation provides for a good place to lose your attitude , but in this case i suggest you lose it before heading to such regions .

The other thing about said isolation is that without the comfort of witnesses and distance from the law to uphold your rights . It just comes down to your people skills and common courtesy . If you come from a rat race , chances are you long lost those ideals . Tough talk doesn't work when either of the above are not your security blanket .

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it , did it fall ?
Sounds like YS's old "Far east Foe " , may have had a tree fall on him that no one heard .

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any news links to the streaky missing person ? about 7 years ago I heard that story while out at asu, cold case ,any coroners findings on it......seems to be just swept under the carpet,youre right Sidney fish 6o mins will love it and gyngell will be following this up for sure.

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Southey, fuck off, I'm not telling you who he is or who he's hanging with, so stick it up your ass with all your other secret squirrel bullshit. But, fwiw, I know a few elite ADF who surf on various coasts in their down time, one is Lt. Colonel. Proper trained killers, not like these self appointed hassling boneheads or some thug bikers. They put their lives on the line, and certainly not for this sort of mentally ill retarded wank.

Insider, go back to NZ and take your hate with you, leave what few sheep, or goats, there are on the stinky coast for the stinky boys. As for jobs, I'd rather see boat people (iraqis, afgahnis etc) get work here, people who have really suffered apartheid and hardship, people who will appreciate our freedoms and not bitch about having to share a few waves, pathetic.

I crack up at these fuckwits, they live in their stink cos thats how they think, its 99% in their minds or attitudes.

The natural inclination is to bash them back, but you really don't have to, 'cos they beat themselves up everyday, about SOMETHING, EVERYTHING, ANYTHING or NOTHING.

So STINKERS, give yersef another upper-cut, cos its fun to watch.

yeeeeewwwwww, HAPPY DAYS.

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@fraser-gordon, thats Eric alright. amazing you were able to get that shot! but good to see a photo of an old acquaintance. Sadly, the little bugger is no longer with us. he sinned against a couple of the locals and paid his penance many times over. he was ahead of his time regarding the boards he rode in the tube. a fair few of the waves I've seen promoting the corporate clowns he was the first to surf, usually paddling out on his own due the fact he was a bit of an outcast. he spent years riding the cliffs on a little motorbike searching for waves. of course the waves he showed us are full of the camera clowns now, maybe 1 isn't, RIP.........anyway, the old farmhouse those "my brothers keepers" fuckwits tagged all over near the church was his old house.......

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Not many people prepared to do that sort of thing to find waves hey hem-street? Plenty that are keen to follow after though and claim it Not many places left to do that anymore, there are stilla couple though for sure.

Carefull Sid, might be time to check your blood pressure again.

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ha. Reecen. Seriously, don't take me too seriously, I don't.

;)

No stress here, I'm a fun labrador kinda guy.

Plenty of space and waves for everyone is my Australia. These turkeys don't even know the meaning of crowds and visitors.

Stay away from the darkside, it will rot you from the inside out.

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@mtown, most nw locals I know live in Carnarvon , Kalbarri even Geraldton not Margaret river.

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Ha ha just thought it was building to boiling point.
This whole topic is ridiculous it just adds to the exposure, but it might just have some impact on people and how they view a trip there next time?
Having lived in both the most crowded and isolated spots to surf it is worth fighting for the quite spots to stay quiet.
Anyway bash on boys.
Oh and all you Kiwis go home and stop stealing our high paying jobs that we dont want to actually work for.

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Gidday yorkesurfer, I had a lot of surfs with Eric. He was a nice enough guy, definitely innovative, but ended up spinning out, and just caught up out of his depth with the wrong people.

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out of his depth with the wrong people, hmm a deep sea swim.

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@ Inzider, I got quite a few kiwi mates, and I call them what they are PLANE PEOPLE, they didn't come on boats like the poor bastards from some war torn country, they come from a comfortable country, nice , green country right? You reckon you fellas dont take our jobs? Bullshit, I got mates trying to get in mines for ages but can't, not only because of Kiwis but you fellas are thick up there. You guys got a good life over there, let the real refugees in I reckon. Off topic rant over.

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'near the church', incorrect, near the hall. @uplift, agreed, started doing trips s east, mixed with the wrong crowd. he didn't really spin out, left the ocean behind more and more. He chased the great corruptor, cash flow, unsuccessfully trying to look after close others........

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Kiwis, boks and aussies are pretty much the same. we all have that adventurous spirit, love of a good time and laugh. one thing the kiwis are doing better than us is sticking together, it seems aussies have really gone the individual path in these latter years, i'm calling 1996 was the turning point. Aust was looking at legalising some drugs, the gay law stuff, it was like a new dawn on the horizon then suddenly we went American. dobbing each other in, our acceptance of others and the way they lived declined. you can see in these comments the way some apply their rules wherever they go, ignorant and lacking understanding, shunning diversity. sure we need our cities and the 'civility', why cant we also have our country and the somewhere that doesn't have a f....n maccas and Kf cat. aussies aren't as funny as we used to be either, its not pining for old times, it was better times and most of this change wherever its coming from is not warranted. we should be leaders on this planet, showing 'em what living is really about.......

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Mike hunt that was sarcastic referring to people from margs being locals in the nw. Unfortunatly mike alot of guys from margs do think they are locals at tombies and it is funny. Carnarvon boys are "locals" everyone else not so.
Southy your tails of trees falling in the forest are fucking stupid. Now you are all talking of murder. Why don't you people talk with normal words instead of fucking little secret sentences. Now what you's are going to start murdering people! Ha ha haaaaa!!!!if you's start doing that and I will have respect and keep away!hahahahaha!!!!!
Sid don't start talking facts people on here don't like that.

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Now the racism has started! Hhhhaaaaaaa!fucking love rednecks!!!!!!took all the mining jobs hhhhaaaaaahaaaaaa!!!classic south park " they toook ouuuurrr jobs".mister salt it's actual not hard to get a job in mining.the reason your mates carnt get a job is they are probably not qualified enough. That is what they look for not where your from.easyest way to get a job is go to Kalgoorlie or port headland or any of the other towns and simply have all your shit together resumes tickets ect go to all the different company's that you can find and hand out your stuff.probly won't get the job you want strait away but once your in you can network and change jobs. Or you could stay in Perth applying for adds out of the newspaper good luck doing that.

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Wow this tread goes everywhere. It will prob end up in a uni lecture hall or a thesis on human psycology.

Is it that the bottom line is we humans are animals, often a forgotten fact, and since the dawn of creation animals have fought over the right to walk their territory as they like?

I don't know what its like these days, but the lastime I was there Velzyland was the scariest localism i had seen in a lifetime of surfing.
Yet after just two weeks on the north shore I got an invite in. Once in the number one Velzy man, M Ho, was calling me in, then paddling me into waves to make sure I got the ride.
It's was a session I will never forget and was at a loss to understand why i was so honoured.
On the way back to Rocky Point I asked why ... The one word answer was "attitude".

I'm guessing thats what Brutus is attempting to tell about.

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Soâ€¦.in summary, Uplift is a wanker, Uplift is not a wanker, Uplift is a legend. Uplift is genetically perfect
Brutus is a scaredy cat, Brutus is Not a scardey cat, Brutus makes the fastest surfboards on the planet
If you live on the west coast you deserve respectâ€¦. I meanâ€¦. RESPECT. If you live on the west coast you are allowed to harass and intimidate non locals. There are no real west coast locals because most of them are blow-ins anyway. If you visit the west coast donâ€™t take a camera, it upsets the big blond guy and he shakes violently
If you do take a camera take some wax remover as well
On the west coast there are a lot of mice but no chicks, which is a shame because we could have bred a west coast super race with Uplifts perfect genes
Kiwis are okay, they are the closest thing to a west coast local anyway, they deal with cold water, big sharks, heavy waves, and donâ€™t put up with any shit ( no mice and plenty of chicks though)
All the west coast locals hate Smucks

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sid the fish , you really missed the point, you just proved the ANZAC spirit is dead in you, did anyone in your family fight in the world wars to provide you with the freedoms you enjoy today to be the redneck bigot you are. I doubt it.

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wow,conversation is now a bit personal..WTF Kiwis have to do with anything in this rigorous debate.......huh??

Waxing of cars is usually done by younger surfers,and is a gutless and cowardly way of sending a message.

the idea of starting an asociation/club to deal with increasing numbers at the expense of the enviroment and lifestyle of the surfers who use the area.....is a great one ,and shows an evolution from the "biff" to dealing with issues that affect local surfers ...by becoming part of the solution.........

there is no need for any violence or intimidation and with a simple education of visiting surfers thats where it begins.

Respect is what really matters,seld respect and respect towards others. Hopefully BB fella would be pretty angry at car waxing etc.....as all that does is create angst and you lose the respect of surfers in general.......

hopefully the older guys willset an example for the younger surfers and this will be their legacy.......being responsible for your area and your actions!!

nice story about Mike H and V-land.....yeah attitude and respect go along ay...anywhere!!

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Link on Missing Eric Lynch
http://www.australianmissingpersonsregister.com/EricLynch.htm

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Apologies for my rant, a couple to many Sparklings Ales before tea. I dont have a problem with kiwis, not really.

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Insider, I/we happily share welfare, jobs, women & waves with you n your bros for decades, bloody hundreds and hundreds and thousands of ya's !!! Now I never had a problem with that, however, after accomodating so many kiwi's, so graciously, for so long, all I ask is don't start lecturing me what I should/shouldn't do in my country.

Same with all the bloody mexicans, crow eaters and god knows who else. They all got afforded space and waves. That is just life in an ever expanding metropolis. We not only get over it, we thrive.

Brutus, don't say it just kids who do stupid waxing and let tyres down etc. I have personally, on more than one occasion, witnessed one of the cats you would presumably be in cohorts with on this movement, do exactly that and some. Yeah, one of the self-proclaimed regional "elders" or whatever the fuck he thinks he is.

I also know -FACT- about the time YOU were on the phone to down south trying to arrange person X to intercept person A and have him bashed.

So mate, cut the holier than thou crap, and come down off your cross... we could use the wood.

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I'll happily share welfare, jobs, women and waves with my Kiwi bros, but I won't share their fashion sense. Have you ever met a Kiwi NOT in beanie, flanno and uggs?

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whoaa Sid......how do you think the blackfellas feel about you and your mob claiming land as yours and that you are the one and only ethnic group that seem to have taken on the dubious title of "me white man,own rights to all..."......

anyhow I have never called anyone to bash anyone.....if I have a problem ,I deal with it myself,and if i say something ,I can back it up.

you seem to have the same disease as uplifted...just make it up ,call it a FACT........Sid thats BS and is a refdlection on you,not me...

as for the holier than thou crap.........real life experiences over 40 years have formed my opinions......and hopefully the elders as you call them will wake up to themselves,and create a better way of dealing with the issues that are on this forum....

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'On the west coast there are a lot of mice but no chicks, which is a shame because we could have bred a west coast super race with Uplifts perfect genes'

That chick thing, hey what can I say, I know it was/is a huge problem to most guys, but, for me, shit... shit, what do I say without coming across as anything but a big, good looking, rawboned, fountain of ageless, humble athletic muscle?

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What? The fact that you're a big, good looking fella that prefers mice to chicks?

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nah nah never happened eh Brutus. I pulled the incident out of my ass for the hell of it. that's it for sure. I reckon you've got one episode confused with another.

I know when the call was made, where it was made, in front of who, to who, about who. I'll take their collective word over yours anyday, they are Class A+ people. Anyway, lets put that behind and move on.

I'm not singling out any ethnic group, kiwis or otherwise. We all live in a relatively free country under ONE common law these days, including kooris who were right royally screwed to be sure. Those LAWS extend to vandalism, trespass and oppression.

Problem with all this clandestine rules and regulation is that is riddled with hypocrisy and paradox.

The worst offenders are often blow ins themselves at some point in time.

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zenny, that one I'll give some points, its taken a while, longer than most, but you are slowly learning! However, there's a time and place for seriousness.

And brutes, without calling in Laird, WL/Martin, Brazzo's, Martin/WL, JD, DJ et al, how many times have you been to Blacks? How many waves have you had there?

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Problem with all this clandestine rules and regulation is that is riddled with hypocrisy and paradox...

oh yeah... ***AND attracts over zealous fuckwits with nothing better do to than go around making cunts of themselves.

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*** CUNTS.

C-U-N-T-S...

!CUNTS!

!!!

with a CAPITAL CUNTS.

lmfao.

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Thankyou Uppity, that's very humbling coming from you.

And may I say, I really enjoyed your well written post with attached link the other day.

You know the one, the one where you weren't talking about yourself:)

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yeah sid,ya pulled that story out ya butt....not true,not even close...so lets not move on...you have accused me of getting someone bashed down south because......???

your A+ mates have told a s/h story about ...what and who c'mon put up or shutup!

don't let there be clandestine rules and regulations use the MWCBRA as a launching pad for a publicised code of conduct and work with the local authorities and create a some parameters to managing increasing numbers...its all about how ya manage em....

uplifted,surfed blacks a couple of times,as soon as we saw the bigger sets washed thru,WL always wanted to ride the peak of the swell,and the swell we had at balcks was too big so..we went looking elsewhere to try and ride the biggest waves on that swell....

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Brutus, I never said you got someone bashed, I said you tried to arrange it by phone. And you done it in front of 2 of his best mates, deny it all you want, I don't give a fuck. I'll stick with the noble gents.

MWCBRA sounds like a chronies club, ie: unless you agree with the articles of association, membership is unavailable. No democratic process there, just a self-appointed lobby group trying to legitimise the hate under the guise of ecology. Doubt you can legistlate against cockheads at either end of the spectrum anyhow, there'll always be loose canons.

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Congrats Stu you cracked the 400. Ben will be presenting you with the commemorative Swellnet Gold Watch for this effort! Keep up the good work!

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and further Brutus, I'm not gunna name name's 'n drag them back into this septic tank so they don't get victimised and trashed, over two thirds of fuck all, like you done with your public vendetta with Rowley.

That was on full display, completely disproportionate to the percieved "crime" against mankind, and any astute observer, or people familiar with your antics, will discern my story is true.

Ultimately, they're over it and they're over you. That's your loss.

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So yeah... Sudthafush fukced that dog in his little picture. 4 of my mates rang me and confirmed this. One of them was the big blonde guy, another The Lord Mayor of port Lincoln but I'm not gonna name drop on here, the other 2, well lets just say everyone on here would know them and know that they never lie, but I better not disclose their names, because one is actually a cross dressing secret agent of the KGB and is surfing the west coast right now... Maybe re-kindling his secret relation with the big blonde guy... Who knows.. I'm not here to start rumours. But Sid fucked a dog....FUCT... Oops.. Fact

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sid ya have no idea what you are talking about......I have done some pretty average things in my life,and I own up to any past issues/incidents...I did not call up anyone to get anybody bashed...tha's just pure fabrication...

as for Fig Jam Rowley and my supposed vendetta against him, is simply a reaction to some one blatantly seeking fame and glory and has no problem using and abusing an area that he knows has a code of behavior that was/has been evolving over a long period of time...not unlike what the West coasters are going thru at present.

Also FJ Rowls crossed a line in making up charges to get restraining orders,on PC locals and myself.......and then there is the investigation by the ACCC into ya mate FJR.....for allegedly defrauding a cancer charity,in that he didn't cough up any $'s to the cancer charity that he raised...serious allegations,but if you read the latest ASL..check the story on him ..

so sid not sure why the personal attacks....could be a friend of FJR....but my loss,and people are over me?..read ASL,and see what happens when you become a disrespected surfer in your own back yard.....and the consequences of possibly defrauding a cancer charity.........yeah your kinda guy?

Amazing how you snipe at surfers trying to get their act together to try and manage increasing numbers......and your position is...sniper...

if ya not psrt of the solution,you are the problem...certainly rings true for Sid....

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Jeffie: Im a 26th gerneration local my forefathers rowed ova here looking for mindless pits and we set up camp on the west coast of SA. Im a real fairdinkum local man . Im a fat curlly headed heavy dude that enjoys towing into small waves through lots of "blow'ins" in the line up. If you are a girl I will run you over. My forefathers use to row in, using our shields for surfboards.
HYDE: Look jeffie you need to calm down you are losing it. Get bak on topic.
Jeffie: sorry Hyde i was getting a bit excited.
Where were we? ohh yeah im the original local that Timmy Ponython said " I'm the gate keeper of the west coast" but now on recent trip ova he just used me like a door mat, Kells wouldnt even talk to me only my fat curly headed mate wayne that lives in the hills there. Rumur has he is another tough dude. We are heavy man between us we are 400 kg, thats 200kgs of noggin and 200kgs of pure blubber.
HYDE: Stop telling everyone how many friends you have left, they will all want to come ova and tow with you now.
JEFFIE; Well I need some new blow in friends cause all my old friends wont have anything to do with me now,
HYDE: What about that dude from WA, MTOWN. Maybe Wayne, Us and MTOWN
can unite and tow together.
JEFFIE: Yeah Hyde great idea. Lets get Timmy P ova he can document. We will tow in on our shields, get epic barrels in clown suits.
HYDE: Dont you think Us and Wayne will look a bit fat in lycra suits?
JEFFIE: Good point may not be the best selling movie ever made but at least we will become even more famous. you know like the Three Stooges.
HYDE: Best make this film during the school holidays thare are more potential targets in the line up. Plus it can be a real promotion film for surfing ettiquete.
JEFFIE; Your onto it Hydey, wonder if we can get few sponnos on board, make some money out of this place.
HYDE; That was the original idea all along jeffie, make money out of the coast and make Us famous;
JEFFIE: WE are already Hyde, but it went wrong. Everyone along the coast dont like Us, and all of the Nation dont like us either.
HYDE: Got that wrong Jeffie, try the world mate.

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Jeffie & Hyde,
That's your best effort yet.
Classic

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If anyone knows about being a con man, it would be you. I have no doubt the event doesn't recollect 'cos it woulda' just be another drama for you, gets hard to keep track. Fraud? fuck me dead, how many people have you fleeced over the years ?

Probably the darn funniest thing around here is how the grisslers, grumpies and stinkers come on here, its been a rolling comedy for now for years now, head straight for the Forums to have their whinge about cameras and exposure. YET !

Yet often, on the homepage, right under their noses is some classic pics of the very waves they are whingin' about, BUT! but the stinkers are so pre-occupied with their full ming'in nappy, it doesn't even register. So the evil forces of exposure are total non event even when they are right in ya faces, DICKHEADS !

Ed's must cack themselves, sometimes they deliberately taking the piss. Just like the boys chargin' last week, that was a pisser.

Its fucken hilarious.

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Sid ,

I saw what your refrencing , but like many shots that have been taken , unless you know exactly what and where its focused on then its all good . Could be anywhere ' ay Morris !( Shaun's better half ) .

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forsure Southey, and it's not the first time you 'n me have had our little chuckle and banter about a few happy pics loaded here on SN that have slipped straight past the keeper, no harm done.

I'm sure we laugh louder in private than we do in the forums. I totally piss my pants some days when I see the divide between the forum commentery and the day to day visuals.

I see it the same as the Rowley/paddle/bombie clip that sent Brutus off his trolley. Really no harm done and the world has gone on just fine, apart from those that got publicly trashed, as I say, for two fifths of fuck all. Thought the clip was pretty cool myself, good effort and worth documentation.

These SN guys are smart, they crop and clip as required and screw no one over. As do many other photogs these days.

All good. Let it slide, there's heaps worse shit happening in the world and prolly in the stinkers personal life if truth be known.

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ps. JugHead, the REAL JugHead, was a classic when he turned up on the scene and asked...

"OK mutherfuckas, do you really wanna name names and sources, do you really wanna go there? Cos I've got heaps, BRING IT, truth or dare."

...the silence was deafening.

(loved his style.)

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WTF sid are you whinging about...too many angry pills...did i root ya missus or something......?

are you sure you didn't fallouta FJR's arse......??

ya just make shit up,WTF are ya talking about..fleeced who,how...back up ya words with some fact....???

I think ya mighta found Uplifted's roid stash...sounds like it...

Rowley ,did what he did for his own personal gain,and there are allegations he defrauded a cancer charity..he tried to drag people into court..obviously your kinda guy......

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... different people deal with threats in different ways.

Some ark up, some go quiet, some call the cops, and some stick a shot gun up ya nose, ay ?

Bru, I'm sure you've experienced all of the above.

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jeffie where are ya jeffie, you hiding ? you gotta come out of the wheelhouse ,no fucking joy being in there hiding in the shadow.......that big blonde bi boy aint gonna root ya, that mr hyde having a dig at ya cmon knack come back.

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Sid you are clearly still bitter and twisted from your days at the bay.
This forum drawing attention and exposure?? Try an 8 page spread or a few wave of the days at a break. Throw in some images splashed all over the internet, entered in competitions etc etc.

Nup, a debate on issues such as these is nothing compared to the spotlight and wank created by constant exposure which would happen at many breaks if the local surfers didnt object and campaign to have some sort of say in their backyard rather than a few VISITORS profiting in their quest for glory or 5 minuted at the expense of entire local surf communities.

Clearly you know SFA in regards to FIGJAMs antics when attacking Brutus. SFA.
We dont give a fuck what you think cause its not your backyard. People have long memories. If youre a visitor to an area respect local viewpoint or expect to be shown none in return. Unwritten lore, since the beginning of time. Locals set the agenda at breaks.
NEVER going to change no matter how much you sook about it.

Like Jugheads style? Yep he did draw attention to himself bagging a few crew out a while back.

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Obviously all you guys know each other, thru nick names or ordeals from the past?

Maybe from "Masonic" meetings and the secret handshake?

Well all I can figure out, is all of you guys are "Not Specified"?

Is this a big secret?

I'm so bemused at all of this banter.

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not exactly Well .

some know each other because they've posted long enough for people to guage them .

Some have outed them selves after queries by others , some have been outed by others .

others have been wrongly accused of being someone they are not , and others have attempted to be someone they are not ...

alota kNots .

people like myself prefer it , because then the topic and words become more important than the persons Status .

either way as redneck has eluded I'm in the corner that constructive chat is better than none , and also responsible chat ( where people are less open about exact locations within these walls ) is even better .

Posting photo's throughout the Internet Tagged up to the brim . can only be bad .

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I think wellymon they all know each other from the big gay orgy they used to have over that way back in the day. Apparently some one was taking photos of the action and that was a big no no. (no offence to our homosexual brothers)

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No worries Southey

I do understand what your saying, for sure.

Why do people attempt to be someone they are not? this is some thing I don't understand at all. Really you should be proud of something of who you are!

I like the comment "alota kNots"
I'm good with knots? thats for sure, my life depends on these simple things that a lot of people should know.

Anyways the SA coast does have a little problem about the exposure.

I think they will be fine, as a lot of people that travel there are not there all the time to experience the real goods with just the locals.

Is that really you with the big legs in those AFL shorts holding a beer, a case in the other hand and smoking a cigar?

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that my friend is Matt Johns ( Andrews Brother ) , dressed as Reg Reagan , they are Australian Rugby league shorts , and his T-Shirt was his catch phrase . " Bring back the Biff " .... the title of this thread ...
the Beer if you could call it that is something that was obscure in the late 70's -80's . KB which was most likely a piss take on VB . " Vomit Breath " ...... as for a cuban durry . no i believe that is his false mo' falling off .

i have been known to dress up in very similar "Australiana" outfits but mainly at the Snow .

PS . Google " Reg Reagan - Am i ever gonna see your face again " for some comedy gold .

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Did start as a debate as all do on here Wellymon.
But as usual has turned into a shitfight like other forums prior.

When you debate a local community should be able to have a say in how their area is managed
there are those that get it and those that dont. The donts either misunderstand it or it doesnt suit their agenda which is generally self based.

People say its our right to take photos, film etc. Well its our right to tell you we dont want it too.

Ive found the best way a pleasant experience occurs when travelling is to be respectful of local cultures/ viewpoints. Not paddling around foaming at the mouth helps also.
Simple really.

I believe It is wrong to tell people they cant go somewhere / surf somewhere. Everyone travels but how about doing it "Quietly".
Is it ok to let people know local crew dont want an area spotlighted? Why should a local community have to cop the impact media exposure causes if they dont want it.

Its not the blow in that then has to deal with the extra people drawn there by that footage in the media. No, They are long gone.
Yet a larger number of people who live there then suffer for a selfish few the few that were visitors to begin with.

Different era. Media spotlight does damage. If you cant see it , its because you dont want to.

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The funny thing is boys the big blond guy driving the old grey nissan wagon with the big uhf arial on the roo bar is actually a fucken bodyboarder.This is fact.The scary thing is is that that bloke is a genuine nutcase.I would not be as worried about what he would do to you from a metre away rather than from 300 away with the old 303. He would have nothing to do with the surf association as he is a fuckn lid.
as for udo/wcgland/blackhawk/jeff schmucker cmon mate grow some balls and stop hiding behind alias's and schmucking us around.

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'uplifted,surfed blacks a couple of times,as soon as we saw the bigger sets washed thru,WL always wanted to ride the peak of the swell,and the swell we had at balcks was too big so..we went looking elsewhere to try and ride the biggest waves on that swell....'

Yada, yada, yada bruteless. This well worn, and all too common story there is surf speak for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRD7-UQNDf8

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Uplift You are trying to paint a picture that WL and Brutus were scared and ran away.
You have no grasp on the surfing credibility of these 2 especially in big waves? Real cred not
Self imagined such as yours.
Youre a tool and doubt many if any on this forum side with your accusations.

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Redneck, for sure I understand that aspect, that is why I tread carefully wherever I go and treat every place and every local with respect, that is the most common sense with travelling, with out a doubt.

Living in Ulladulla for 3 years, i seen some old locals rock up to a break in the morning, who have lived in that town surfing from day dot and never ventured or travelled past their mums tit, who they still lived with at the age of 40+. They rocked up to a surf spot often with 5 people out , doing a rant and rage then staging a burn out in the carpark only to drive back home to smoke more cones, in his bedroom while Mum made his bed ? 1 hour later no-one out and still pumping ?
Such small minded people, I always thought.

It gave me a funny experience about localism in Australia, but really its nothing at all, just real small mentality, what a shame.

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JEFFIE: Hey Hyde sounds like lozza has blown shmucos alias.
HYDE: Wat that was your job to have that watertight.
JEFFIE: sorry Hyde I got excited and no one would talk to me. So I had to talk to myself again.
HYDE: OK get bak on track , no friends, Why? Its your fault Jeffie , you blew it.
JEFFIE: Anyway we got here first who were our fore fathers anyway Hyde? Im having a vauge moment from that 20 and a half foot barrel that I was 60 foot bak inside on the foam ball standing on one foot doing the pirouette in my blue and red santa clown suit .
HYDE: Was that the best barrel of your life Jeffie?
JEFFIE: Nah that was the day before the one last week.
HYDE: Your such a legend Jeffie Im so proud of you.
JEFFIE: Thanks little voice in my ear I like talking to you.
HYDE: Im that black money you been feeding lots of bananas to over the years, and the poor white monkey has gone anorexic and died a cruel death.
JEFFIE: Oh well didnt like him anyway. Any way Hyde who were our real forefathers ?
HYDE: Well Jeffie, super great grandaddy the Neanderthal Man, married LUCY the pigmy, then they rowed here and interbreed and ate the original pigmys here in the great sun burnt land.
JEFFIE: Oh is that why I like to harass girls and kids in the line up , it must be in my good nature.
HYDE: Yes Jeffie you hit the nail on the head , Anyway speaking of eating Im hungry again , got any banannas for me.
JEFFIE: Well Hyde was thinking more of putting on a big banquet, inviting all the pro's and camera cocks so we can make some more friends again.
HYDE: Sounds like a good idea, what on the menu ? can we make money out this gig?
JEFFIE: Well we can get al the ingredients for free.
HYDE: Thats a good start, that should increase the profit margin considerably, whats for starters?
JEFFIE: Glad you asked, starting off, will be undersize KG whiting followed by slow roasted locally caught and klilled free range Osprey, then in case there any Kiwis there we will have free range harpooned seal hungie style with zesty sea urchin sauce.
HYDE: Great spread Jeffie what's for desert?
JEFFIE: Wayne from up the hills is suppling poached abalone with with minced baby crayfish dressing.
HYDE: Now I'm really hungry , funk the bananas when can we have this dinner date.
JEFFIE: When some pro or camera guy answers my calls.
HYDE: IS there something wrong with your phone Jeffie , I haven't heard it ring for a long time and now you tell me no one will answer it.?
JEFFIE: I think I'll call Telstra there must be a problem with my phone.
HYDE: I dont think the problem is your phone buddy.

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Gimpneck, what's this constant hiding behind WL. Open your eyes instead of your mouth. This is about big, bad brutes and what he says, and what he did. And my take on that. When it comes to cred over here, in my view, he gets what he earn't. Next to zero. Like I said this area is classic, so magnetic, everyone has to try some angle at getting a claim in.

And likewise putting shit on others for filming, exposure, trying to make a living from surfing. Pot calling the kettle black.

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Dr J and MR H,

Wheres the roasted Wombat?

I'll come , Ive had Wombat before, its similar to pork.

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who the fuck is SFA . ?

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Ok swelly boys enough of this bullshit..enough's enough..FFS it's gone from some kind of intelligent , honest debate to a bunch of dero's going at each other can we please shut this off and let the true crew sort it out..A cool bunch of crew willing to achieve shit out yonder..let them go at it without all the fuckwits..and see what happens?

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sid . i beleive it stands for Sweet F#$ All .

why it may have been mistakenly directed at you is for RN to decide

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hey downdraft, does it make you feel special to bag guys like wayne lynch and maurice cole who are known globally and are part of the australian surf culture from its early days. What have you done to that should allow you to even be allowed to be mentioned in the same sentence as these guys? By the way now that the wiggles have retired what are you going to do if they stop making skin tight skivvies? Best buy up now while you can!
As for you sid the jellyfish maybe you could impart some of your wisdom on us poor folk so that we too could read between the lines and become as insightful as your wonderful self. Not that hard to look behind that profile shot of your lover and see those unmistakeable rocks so we know you are close!
p.s. pls dont take it out on the poor mut like you have your women in the past!

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Have a little cry loz. Then blow your nose, out, not in.

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The only self confidence uplift pumps into anyone is himself..he NEEDS someone to tell him he is a hero! What..a...kook..hasn't surfed in how long?please gimme a fuckn break..Him Sidthefuckface and Reecen can piss off..Maybe they got their welfare payment this week and are at the hookers and the pub..or hunting meth..Biggest bunch of loudmouth softcocks I've ever seen. I have surfd Blax for 20 yrs and haven't seen hulk Hogan out once...plus takin' on brutus what a fuckn surftool!! der?

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@Barley -

Inspires the recent proverb - "Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special Olympics. You may triumph over others yet your all still retarded."

Seems these forums be an obsessive release, a self-gratification of ego for the bored and spiteful.

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JEFFIE: I just got off the phone to Telstra been an hour on hold and the call chick said my phone is working ok.
HYDE: Sounds like she needs to be bashed, use the phone book so it wont leave to many bruises, same as we usually do.
JEFFIE: You are such a meanie Hyde, but I just trust you so much together we can go an a chick bashing spree.
HYDE: Yeah we can get the jet ski out and go on rampage running down chicks and kids.
JEFFIE:Do you think this is the right thing this do Hyde?
HYDE: Fark yeah they are much softer and wont damage our ski, this is an old trick but it makes me feel big.
JEFFIE: How about getting rid of the ski and start paddling again?
HYDE: But its been so long and we are so fat now precious.
JEFFIE: Thats what everyone is into now , it;s all the rage, I want my phone to start ringing again.
HYDE: Dont fark with me Jeffie we are physically not able, we must push on through any obstacle that gets in our way, chicks included, whether it be 2 to 3 of possibly 4 foot.
JEFFIE: Those paddle surfers just love the smell of our jet fumes and love the wake we throw into the line up. plus I can be seen further away by potential sponnos and camera jockeys ,
HYDE: Is that why you are never in the barrel in heavy waves but 20 foot out in front doing another soul arch.
JEFFIE: You got me Hyde,
HYDE: Now i get it. I wish you had told me the plan was to dodge all heavy pits so we could be seen clearly for all photo etc. your right mate no point hiding in the barrel who the fark is gonna see us there?
JEFFIE: But seriously Hyde, I just want to be famous , get my name in the mags , all the pros ring my phone and bash chicks.
HYDE: LIke your style my little big man, but I think you should take out the part of bashing chicks. Then the phone will ring once again , possible even melt from all our popularity.

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Hey drjeffie, could you take this one step further, maybe get these characters up on youtube in a punch n judy type puppet show.

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Sid yeah ...seen so many spots ,countries, become so over run by surfers makes you reflect on a lifetime of surfing and the possible cause and affects ,positive and negative,that has happened,and ya actually can learn from past mistakes...which at the time seemed OK...but history can show us how to better manage increasing surfer numbers...

At the end of the day surfing is anarchy,and with more and more surfers ,its about how different local surfer groups deal with their increasing numbers,whether it be visiting surfers or a rapidly growing local population.

when ya say...

.. different people deal with threats in different ways.

Some ark up, some go quiet, some call the cops, and some stick a shot gun up ya nose, ay ?

Bru, I'm sure you've experienced all of the above.

now yes I have have seen and experienced just about all of the above,seen a gun pulled,but thankfully not on me...seen cars burned,guy stabbed....and have been guilty a few times myself.....

All I am trying to do here is bring relevent first hand stories that relate to today ,and how to deal/manage increasing surfer numbers.

the personal shit about me ,which seems to come from old rumours ,are just that.If i have made mistakes I will fess up,no dramas,and will then develop a philosophy based on those mistakes...

So whether uplifted thinks I am a chicken ,because of some lame story he made up....hey yeah I have been absolutely shit scared plenty of times....fuck try towing with RCJ for 10 years....I still surf,tow,and basically dhave the same lifestle I had when I was 18....but still not sure that uplifted thinks that if ya don't have gonads ya can't have an opinion....huh??

he doesn't surf ,doesn't know me,never surfed with him.....??

anyhow hopefully some of the boyos on the WC will take onboard the fact they are doing the right thing in trying to deal with the issues that the greed of surfing has brought to their doorstep...

no biff,educate and go surfing...

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Hehe... the best post so far, the summary by Mick 63... classic >>

"Soâ€¦.in summary, Uplift is a wanker, Uplift is not a wanker, Uplift is a legend. Uplift is genetically perfect
Brutus is a scaredy cat, Brutus is Not a scardey cat, Brutus makes the fastest surfboards on the planet
If you live on the west coast you deserve respectâ€¦. I meanâ€¦. RESPECT. If you live on the west coast you are allowed to harass and intimidate non locals. There are no real west coast locals because most of them are blow-ins anyway. If you visit the west coast donâ€™t take a camera, it upsets the big blond guy and he shakes violently
If you do take a camera take some wax remover as well
On the west coast there are a lot of mice but no chicks, which is a shame because we could have bred a west coast super race with Uplifts perfect genes
Kiwis are okay, they are the closest thing to a west coast local anyway, they deal with cold water, big sharks, heavy waves, and donâ€™t put up with any shit ( no mice and plenty of chicks though)
All the west coast locals hate Smucks "

This thread is the reason why I love surfing alone... honestly, some of you guys need a little shot of oestrogen to settle your balls a bit.
Just go surfing huh...

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Well I'll be fucked......the 'Big Blonge Bi Guy' is a Booger. A lid. His legend continues to grow.

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JEFFIE; The phone just rang Hyde, sounds like they want a punch and judy puppet show of us.
HYDE: Fark yeah that will bing us more fame and fourtune.
JEFFIE: We could get some puppets organised get look alikes of all characters mentioned so far plus all all pro surfers and camera jokeys. Make a big wave venue and contest site. What do ya think Hyde.
HYDE: Well as long as the plastic swell's are not to big or my puppet wil get scared ." I DON'T WANT TO GET HURT "
JEFFIE: It will be ok I promise I will stay well clear of the lip and get right out on the face.
HYDE: Thanks Jeffie you are my friend.Only friend.
JEFFIE: Should we invite Timmy Ponython to document ?
HYDE: Yeah for sure he will love to come back for some more camera action.
JEFFIE: Lets get back on track again, Finger Puppets,
HYDE: That sounds like fun Jeffie;
JEFFIE: OK Big wave venue, plastic swells, all characters , pros, and documenters,Jet-skis, girls, and wildlife included.
HYDE: You are a genius ,Well first we could Tow In with Wayne, duck tapped to our back and run a few of the paddle contestants over.
JEFFIE: Sic, that will make headlines in the news, then make Us more famous,
HYDE: Probably we will be barred from our own contest and Us and Wayne could go catch some wildlfe for the blow out dinner for all the blow-in surfers.
JEFFIE: Yeah it should help decimate the coast a bit more.
HYDE: Now you are thinking more like our forefathers Jeffie.
JEFFIE: Will you still be my friend even if everyone is off us.
HYDE: Just as long as you continue along this path of destruction we will get on FAMOUSLY !!!

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Morris is right dr Jeffie. Start with you tube then who knows where you could go from there!

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Thats funny irony for you bruteless. We met and chatted at Lennox years ago. I had just come in from a good surf, but you couldn't surf because your missus and kids wanted to bolt back to the goldy. That scenario happened a couple of times, and we talked about life changing, wives, kids, responsibilities, surfing. I tried to talk you into getting in a quick one, but they were definitely over it. At that time I was trading for a living, so could surf when and where I liked. I had no idea who you were, but some friends said it was you... this is surfing, and I've surfed for over 40 years so it would come as no suprise if it was bullshit.

Bullshit and surfing, what a topic... bring back the biff. Even the hallowed halls of the bastion of truth, Surfers Journal, crumbled under the weight. Who could forget the all time classic 'Burly Hulk'... of a man, expose? Word has t it was wordy. Fucking hilarious, the poor little cunt was stuck in town with us for what would've seemed like eternity, except we had the genuine article, the 'emancipated hulk'... of a mouse, version. Then the might 'Taipan' graced its pages. For fuck sake, who needs the WWF. Surfing even has the delusional fans covered too.

So, here brutes, you have by your own admission put your toe in the water and been washed away. To bigger and better things... pumpin' up the coast eh! Some, me included, have chosen to stay and deal with the 'washthroughs'. When it comes to here, in the water here, thats how I measure cred. As for people, I measure them by how they are, not how they surf or who they are. You put tons of macho shit on other people for supposedly exposing and ruining the coast, for trying to make a lifestyle, when you used every available means to do the same. And I would have said this to your face if it came up when we we were chatting... save the environment... jetskis, you are kidding me, right? And if you started going on about gonads and macho, I would have raised your bigger and better things story. Without a problem.

I witnessed that snowboarding had a massive , massive effect on surfing. Powder hounds. Legends sprang up everywhere, that love of the powder, the new found bravado and courage of the snow. Nostrils flared and dripping, boldly taking surfing to places never before seen. All conquering. Whatever, big fucking deal.

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@ Uplift,

You measure peoples "cred" by how they deal with wash-throughs @ Blacks??

Fucken hell now ive heard it all...

Get a grip mate, you have a twisted view on reality.

You ever tried snowboarding, unbelievably fun!

"Courage of the snow"!!! hahahahahaha

Jeez im glad i dont have to see you in the water.. id hate to have my "cred" measured

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mr uplift genuine question - what is the best size for blacks and at what size do washthroughs happen ? im guessing with the setup around 8-10 ft?

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oh Laury, you are now a proven dickhead.

---Not that hard to look behind that profile shot of your lover and see those unmistakeable rocks so we know you are close!---

That photo of my old Labrador was taken at 1770, where you launch a boat to go to Cookie Cutter, an atoll on the Barrier Reef.

It's 5 hours north !YES NORTH! of Brisbane.

So how close were you ? Paranoia on the brain mate.

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Yep spot on Sid, 1770 yeah your right mate we must be close!

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goofy, you goofball. No never tried snowboarding, never had the need to have 'fun', or courage from the snow.

Gidday udo, in winter things really change. With huge tides and the broken up, raw, peaky swells it will hold ridiculous things. Sometimes a bomb will get some water off the peak, then the next one has way more entry, further out, and you can look at ones that you normally mightn't. All you need is a glassy period in the day, and there are plenty of those. Hardly ever anyone around. Living there is the only way to capitalise. Friends would ring saying its such and such a wind where they were, but I would be surfing. And on that coast the fickleness and risk of a fruitless drive stops them.

In the season most people come, again it depends on the direction, type of swell/period and tide. Really south, low period, high tide can hold the biggest. Around the size you say is average max.

As for best, depends what you like. The cleanest, most perfect days are when its too NE, then glasses off. For me the best waves you will ever get are on phantom swells, when you sift through them. Like anywhere, the more you surf it the more you know, and can seemingly push it.

I came in really late one arvo, it was a raw phantoming day, no one around, and a car pulled up. There was about an hour and half or so of light left, and it was a bunch of pros. They asked if there were waves, I was honest and said yeh, but pretty wild if you don't really know it, and the tide is turning. No one was keen, except Nicky Wood. He asked me a bit of stuff and bolted out there. He charged. No idea where to sit, but dropped into some horrific slabs. Got munched by a couple and ended up way out in the bay, but he had some screamers from half way through.

Todd Archer from Newy regularly got the most radical waves I've seen there. Much to many peoples/legends/locals horror and disgust. I surfed with TC, he missed a good phantom day the day before he came. Would have loved to have seen him on that day. That was the most crowded I've ever seen it. Hilarious. He was 'tracked' every millimetre of his journey over. I thought everyone was joking. When I drove out for a surf, I couldn't believe what I was seeing, you had to park miles on the rode back to anxious. Boats and people taking shots everywhere. I bumped into him in the caravan park later, and he was spewing, he reckoned he was meant to be having a low key, quiet honeymoon trip. He bailed to over west to escape the crowds.

The most classic legend getting pile driven, and obliterated, there have been tons of those, was that hilarious debacle that I mentioned once before. And I honestly haven't got the heart to tell it. It was unbelievable, you would think it was impossible to make shit like that up. But, in surfing.

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@ goofyfoot,Fair call,
I honestly don't understand how from Mr Uplift says "I witnessed that snowboarding had a massive , massive effect on surfing. Powder hounds. Legends sprang up everywhere, that love of the powder, the new found bravado and courage of the snow. Nostrils flared and dripping, boldly taking surfing to places never before seen. All conquering. Whatever, big fucking deal."
This honestly Mr Uplift has fuck all to do with "Bring the Biff Back"?

If you want to talk about snowboarding ? your best mate "Zenophobic is starting a forum about this?

The only thing snowboarding had a massive, massive effect on surfing was probably that there were less people in the water getting amazing board time, actually riding, standing on their feet, instead of paddling?

Lets not get involved about a new found bravado, honestly Mr Uplift , really you don't have a clue about this at all. Have you ever seen Jeremy Jones and his movies called "Further" and Deeper", well thats when bravado would put your bravado into the septic tank, for sure, Jeremy's bravado is not about that at all?, its about doing something he loves, about pushing the limits of the something he loves.
As maybe you have done in the past, I would not know.
But back to the "Biff Thingy"
It seems to me you and "Brutus" should go have a beer together at Lennox and have a cuddle, good old times of making up.

Peace to you Mr Uplift.

P.S if you want to talk about bravado with snowboarding the mountains, talk to me , cause getting dragged down a 3000m mountain for 500m , under copious amounts of snow and coming to the surface and surviving, Only to see down the bottom was literally 5 rugby fields wide filled with 30m deep in cemented snow?
Then maybe you might realise the bravado we go thru to enjoy something we love.

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Good grief, tell me this isn't true. It's honestly too much to understand. What's snow slang for you blithering dimwits.

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JEFFIE: Sorry to have to drop in on you up-start, it not that unusual for me to do that.
HYDE: Dont say sorry to up-start just burn him man.
JEFFIE: Just looked back Hyde and up-start was getting pitched over the falls.
HYDE: Good keep carving down the line Jeffie get out in front of that lip it scary back here.
JEFFIE: Yeah I let go of the rope nice and early and aimed straight at him then faded him deep into the bowel.
HYDE: Good work Jeffie now pull out we are going to fast and there are tears pouring out of my eyes :)
JEFFIE: LEt's go in now I heard there was someting going on up the gold coast, like heaps of trouble , Police , and people everywhere.
HYDE: Wowzers. let's checkout spewnet heard that the hot spot for all the latest gossip.
JEFFIE: Pack up the tow-rope Hyde,were off. hold on you will have tears pouring out of your eyes once again :)
HYDE: Right Jeffie " drjeffie-mrhyde " S ARE GO.
JEFFIE: I thought it was Thunderbids are GO .
HYDE: Oh well got to have a laugh sometimes can't be boring like get all serious about shit,
JEFFIE: HA yeah , Im serious lets get up the goldy, Hyde it goin off up there , like some serious boat acidents happened up there and the line ups are full of targets Hyde.
HYDE: Wow, do ya recon there would be any chicks in the line up there Jeffie.
JEFFIE: Fark there must be more there than what there is here, there plenty of mice running around though, some kind of super-pigmy-type-a-rats.
HYDE: I know Jeffie , lets ask that big blonde boggie boarder if we can borrow his roo-bar of his beaten up truck.
JEFFIE: Hey blondie can we borrow your roo-bar we want to bolt it onto the front of our ski so we can go on a rapmage up the goldy.
HYDE: Ask blonedie if he you can take us up there.
JEFFIE: Hey blondie. Also do you want to come for a holiday to the goldy we going on a towing bonanza up there. Can ya tow our ski as well?
HYDE: Now you making new friends Jeffie.

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I know Uplift, its something you have never experienced and will never understand.

I do forgive you for your honesty.

Snow slang is called a "Face shot", similar to getting a nice little barrel?

That is what, from this blithering dimwit can explain to you?

Back to "BBTB"

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Saw uplift out at blax once..He was shittin his pants!! calling an overhead wave 6ft!! pity he can only shoulder hop.Nice effort getting up on the knee first..try popping up straight to your feet..You can actually takeoff then! Everyone in Elly's hates this cunt..and his loud mouth hero status he bequests on himself..Never seen a bigger tool than him! Spent most of the big days at walkers didn't you uppity? its ok you can tell the truth for once! He has a massive chest 'cause he has soo much to get off it!
Dellusional.

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"Everyone in Ellys hates the cu#t"

Surprise surprise

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@JeffieandHyde-classic, a good laugh, shame it seems almost real at times?
re Eric. the man charged 2006 got off, cops were great at finding crops, just not people. it wasnt grass that was the deadly issue, it was the garbage go go juice. for everyones sake, dont go there , its in our society to get rid of/jail the indigenous and poor when alcohol doesnt quite work..........

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Can someone summarise this thread?

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I reckon

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The best I can do is. Don't make the trip over if your against getting your exhaust pipe felt by some big blond guy and a fondness for laying nuggets in car parks.Oh and there's SAS soldiers on R and R who will truss you up like a turkey if you wax their window and even think about touching their exhaust pipe.So keep your head down and your exhaust pipe warm and you should be right.Wellymon I think all the snow talk is about the devils dandruff not to be confused with the devils pubes.

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Sure. Like I said, surfing changed forever. Never before seen instant chargers and hard nut legends popped out of thin air everywhere. The twilight zone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJUt_x0gwug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi8jAIQpv0A

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@Fraser-gordon
Thought it mite of had some reference to that, Bolivian Bingo Dust.
That stuff sure makes legends everywhere and nostrils dripping .
Sorry about that one Uplift, that was pretty cryptic devil stuff.

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uplifted,so we have met?? can't remember talking to you,and only ever been to the goldy with the wife and kids ,and there was very little swell or waves......but not sure the point you are trying to make,but I surely must have pissed you off,as your comments seem to be very negative about myself,and the surf culture that I am a product of!

As for washthrus...huh.....when was your last one?

had a few washtrus in my time..even last winter in Hawaii....mostly sunset and lani's.....your cred comment tied to wash thrus at Blacks is such a lame comment...as is the photo of you on 4' wave...

as for the macho shit I put on people..are you referring FJR??

because you acuse me of gonands and macho shit,then ya turn around and you judge peoples credibility by being able to surf during washthroughs at Blacks...ohhhh you animal.....

the whole theme of this forum is really about people being able to see a direct affect of more surfers, thru the exposure of surf spots by the minority at the expense of the majority....which is the satus Quo....we are still living in the good old days ,right now,as surfering seems to be growing very fasy because we are now getting 2nd and 3 rd generation surfers in the water...and older surfers likke myself are still in the water....

as for your jetski comments....are you really that thick to understand that they have allowed surfers to go to a new frontier,and pioneer new bds,and ride unridable waves while supplying a life saving device...the fourstrokes are now sooo much cleaner than the ol 2 strokes......so what was ya problem again??

Its great to have debate about lessons learnt from past mistakes....so that there is genuine airing of all thoughts and ideas,and hopefully more asociations like the MWCBRA are born and there will be a legacy passed down to the future generations that will stand the test of time and become the norm in sensitive areas that suffer from too many people and all the ascociated problems with overcrowding....

yeah next time we hear of a washthru,maybe we should meet out the back and compare duck dives!!!

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Yeah to summarize this thread,
Stunet writes bring back the biff in reference to Dr Jeffie and his antics with females.
Tim Python states his intentions but doesn't like to answer any questions directed to him.
SAS troops frequent the SA coast disguised as boogers armed with wax.
MTown loves his neck tat and TimTams
Uplift only surfs washthrus,

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JEFFIE: Hyde, blondie dont wont to come on this one to busy getting slotted on his lid and said he wont be our friend either.
HYDE: Well to late we up here now, blonde guys everywhere here they all got booger boards and box fulls of wax.
JEFFIE: Wonder if they will wax our windows while we out on our rampage today
HYDE: I know put the go-pro on the dash and we can find out who does the wax job.
JEFFIE: Yeah we'll sit on him if we catch him, squash him a bit.
HYDE: Come on Jeffie hurry up I can see a smorgase board of paddlers , lids, sup boarders, goat boaters, kite-surfers, this place is amazing.
JEFFIE: yeah where shall we start.
HYDE: Lets launch in the tweed start at snapper and head north.
JEFFIE: Fark this is like riding a humpbackwhale in a huricane, just one speed bump after the other, hold on Hyde here come another bunch of surfies.
HYDE: Look in near the shore Jeffie there's a chick surf school.
JEFFIE: Were onto it Hyde, thats our favorite targets.
HYDE: Hey Jeffie check out all the cameras on the beach do you think they are documenting us Jeffie.
JEFFIE: Well if they are going to document lets leave the running over of surfies for now and tow-in.
HYDE: Yeah maybe they will make a new tow-mag all about us.
JEFFIE: You are so onto it Hyde, we could even make some money out of selling out this streach of coast now,
HYDE: Think that already well and truly done but we can be more famous Jeffie.

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So yeah, I heard about this gnarly wave called blax, so I thought im gonna go and dominate this place because I couldn't find any wave that scared me no matter what the size, cause I'm not scared of nothin. Believe me. Anyway I go there, charge hard, harder than any so called local there, and they didn't like it. I'd go out surfing when there was 10ft wash thrus and shit, no pussy locals would go out. So the locals said they were gonna get me, but I didn't care, I said bring it biatchs, because did I mention I'm not scared of nothing and am super tough and probably the best under ground charger in oz, and believe me I saw heaps of pros and the were all hopeless like tc and people like that, don't even get me started on Brutus. Hawaii... Pffft... So overrated, I'd charge that place, I've seen the photos.. So yeah these locals knew I wasn't scared of them so they call the hells angles in, but I soon straightened them out, did I mention I'm pretty tough and not scared of nothin? Nothing funnier than seeing these tough bikies begging me to leave them alone, anyway I got bored of being the biggest charger at blax, no challenge at that place, even though pro's would turn and be shit scared. Did I mention that? so I decided to become a day trader and make millions, but phone reception and Internet was shit at Elly so I moved up north coast NSW. Day trading was so easy for me, I sat in the car parking telling everyone that I am a real charger but the waves here not challenging enough so I sat there and traded. Made millions. Was so easy for me. I once met Brutus there, tried to give him a couple of share tips, well someone told me it was him, don't really know, oh did I mention how someone once told me Brutus came to blax, but they told me I was a bigger charger than him. Must be true, anyway, then people with heaps of money keep calling me and want me to run these projects and developments and stuff, cause they have heaps of money and they know I can do anything, so yeah.

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Sounds good grog-an

Do you have any share tips for me?

Do you think the energy under water thing will take off?

Cant remember the company off hand, but someone told me it would be pretty good?

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Interesting statistics on display here...

1. the pics of those boys charging a southern ocean, uploaded and tagged to SN's 170,000 facebook fans no less, attracted a total of 8 comments.

2. this thread will go beyond 500 comments.

Conclusion, the verbal stink here has attracted more than 60 TIMES the ATTENTION than did an actual camera-crime / shot-publication.

back to you genii .

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^ this. Exactly why WEPSA could shoot itself.

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whatever happened to n@sty? I heard he only surfs Blax when its 30ft.
keep the thread alive...yeeha

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Upskirt, I just noticed a hole in your story, you reckon you met brutus and pain lynch at blacks in the 70's and then again on the gold coast but you did not recognize him, why is this so upskirt? brutus has one ugly head that has not changed through the years, if you met him as you say, you would have no trouble recognizing him 20 or 30 years later, I thought there may have been an element of truth to you story but it appears to be total fiction, just for the record I reckon you have both been carrying on like dickheads.

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I wonder what dr jeffie - mrhyde got up to today

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Soap opera's can be addictive, hey.

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Wow.. Good work shaunlock Holmes. Dr jiffie mr shmuck hole, you still eating noodles 3 meals a day?

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I think this whole situation could be easily sorted out by everyone coming together and having a little party:

http://www.ravenews.ca/en/read/2013/may/28/

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Shawny, I didn't have anything at all to do with brutless when he came to blacks, back then, as he bolted. I had nothing to do with the Lynch thing, because I was/am openly against that sort of thing, hassling people for no reason. I never met him or Lynch personally then, or pay much attention, as he didn't do anything other than to barely catch a wave, which everyone was shocked about, and to hear everyone going on about him describing blacks as an unridable bommie.

To answer you and brutless, at Lennox much later, just after the shark attacks over here, I had no idea who he was. He just looked like a flabby, little old guy, that was getting hassled by his missus and kids, and who was spilling his guts to me, despite me not knowing him from a bar of soap. I actually felt sorry for him, as he really wanted to surf, but had to bail under pressure, so was telling me all that stuff. When my friends said it was Maurice Cole, I didn't believe them, but they were adamant, and I felt even more sorry for him. And culture wise, I am nothing like him and have no doubt that he doesn't remember lots of things. Like I said, surfing changed dramatically, like a white squall, and from what I've seen, there is no turning back, people are changed forever.

Interestly, lots of the other West Coast Vic guys, famed as big wave surfers came over every year back then, especially, and apparently foolishly, to surf the shitty little thing, and I surfed heaps of times with them, on days that they openly admitted were some of the most full on waves that they had seen. But brutes was missing in action so to speak. Man down.

All the crap about wash throughs is Brutesy's lingo, and demo of not having much clue about black's at all. As for my rep, believe it or not, a surfer getting on the Elliston Council (many tried and failed), actually invited on back then was literally mission impossible. Even wordy crumbled and voted for me. But, hey maybe you morry, B2, are yet another claimant as being an expert on the area. Again, nothing new or surprising. Hey, glad to see you riveted to my very being, on my every utterance too. Where would you be without me?

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@ mundies
Classic
Theres nothing like a good Wank?

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uplifted,ahhh ya just full of it..asked the missus about your story and Lennox,and she laughed...if there was surf i would surf,and the Fam would go and do something else.......anyhow,enough of your BS,its all got too personal to where you can make up so much on me....and you....well a photo of yourself does wonders seeing a 4' left and you looklike ya riding a rhino chaser.......

I'm outa here......hope that amongst all uplifts delusional BS....something has been learnt.....and that old washed up surfers and their stories are just that!!!

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So yeah, this big time Hugely successful Hollywood producer rings me and wants me to help him out with a new project, did I mention that successful people with heaps of money are always wanting me to help them out with new projects? Anyway, he wants me to write the script, direct and star in his new movie, 'mission impossible 12: the Elliston council'. Now I'm not one for drawing attention to myself or talking myself up or anything, so I tell him I will write the script and direct but I won't star in it. He says ok how about we get Jason statham, or the rock, or Stallone or cruise or that arnie bloke? I say no way those blokes aren't tough enough to play me, I'll just have to do it. Have I ever mentioned how tough I am and not afraid nothin? Anyway I always used to laugh when pros and so-called big wave chargers came to blax. None of them were as good as me. Well I didn't recognise them and wasn't there most of the time, but these guys told me that I charged harder than them, so it must be true

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fucken hell blax this blax that. to the majority of surfers,blacks is indeed an unrideable bomby,thats why the(rare)good days there are infested with lids and wannabe-hellmen thinking theyre killing it in five foot surf. genuine chargers would prefer to surf somewhere that holds bigger and breaks for longer. and thats why they settle in NSW,VIC,and WA.

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Fuck me , there's already 500 posts about this ....it must be good over there to get this reaction...where do I book my trip ?? haha

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yep, interesting how statistics and demographics escape these grisslers.

Both SA and VIC have exported a good proportion of their "crowds" to the eastcoast and westcoast over the years. Visitors ? pffft, they get fuck all of them too.

that's the facts, and that's the stats, jack.

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@sidthefish - no one said don't go and visit, all they are trying to say if you wanna cruise over leave your fuckn ego and look at me posturing at home. For fucks sake, no doubt your as shit a surfer as me, and a decade ago you may have got the wave of your life between the crew change or little window of tide and wind at one of these spots. I'm talking the 'a' grade waves on one stretch of coastline in Aust. somewhere you don't have to gut slide or be mick fanning to get a set wave. you could fuckn poo man thru a tube and no-ones corporate videographer would, give a fuk. If ya want crowds stay at Maroubra or Bondi.

@znut - u don't book to go there, you load the old holden up with ya swag and your missus and enjoy our awesome country at its best, if you want it all laid on fuk off to indo with all the worlds new found surf addicts and east coast aussie yobbos. it was a lifestyle now its just notches on the bedpost

how many fukn crew do we need on this planet, and what are we trying to achieve anyway? most cant even feed themselves or get a job, but we still wanna crowd out every joint and tell everyone how good it used to be. now ya just go from ya box at home to ya box at work, drive thru 50 million speed cameras, pay thru the arse for indemnity insurance and all the other bullshit that comes with civility. I love a good surf shot/vid as much as anyone, but I don't need to know where, when and how. do ya all need signposts and neon fukn lights for the waves and ya ugly fukn heads? think outside your box

http://www.vice.com/read/do-we-need-to-pay-to-have-kids-to-save-the-world

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Statistician now are you Sid?

Clearly you know fuck all about how the surf media spotlight can affect breaks,that or you just don't wanna. I think that may be closer to the truth.

A friend who was in Nias prior to the good old Coca Cola commercial featuring that wave said it changed very quickly after the commercial,then numbers declined again in the 90's when the "new" thing and the spotlight was shone on the Mentawais.
Look at Jaws,Shipsterns!!

Who doesn't get excited by images of great waves?

I think travelling and surfing is one of life's great adventures but why spoon feed the masses so that everywhere is fucked?!

Lets leave some adventure out there,especially if a local area wishes to keep it low key. Its their backyard,who the fuck are you to tell them otherwise?!

But hey if your'e so passionate that anyone can go and do as they please regardless of how the local surf community feel then head over to Kauai and see how ya go there at some of the "no camera" spots. Good luck!

This thread was originally about local people just not wanting to have their area totally fucked by media exposure,exposure primarily caused by one selfish prick at the cost of the whole coast,but the KS debacle seemed to be the final straw.

Can hear your reply already in regards to this thread drawing attention etc, Nup prefer debate to 8 page spreads etc etc,images are much more powerful.

Good on em,go the west coast your back yards worth fighting for.
Tourists are just that,if they respect your viewpoints great,if not let em know tissues are sold at the general store.

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@ redneck& hem street.
Great posts spot on
@ Sid. Your obviously a tool. But if you wanna come over pm me and we can organise it. A good session at kiddies corner with my 5 and 2 year old should be about your standard I presume. And if you leave your camera at home and clean up after yourself will tell the kids to let you have some set waves and not to drop in on you!

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JEFFIE: Now we are famous Hyde has it ever dawned on you that we have made ourselves be famous in the worst and most destructive way possible?
HYDE: Does this mean we should appolagise to an entire coastline ?
JEFFIE: Well since we have violently and emotionally hurt people in various towns up and down the coast, and intimidated some that would be unable to defend themselves from our destructive take on life?
HYDE: Its seems some of our actions over the years have been exposed, should we tell everyone about the rest of our antics?
JEFFIE: Wat like breaking into peoples homes while asleep/pasted out drunk, and intimidating and bashing people.
HYDE: Hey Jeffie dont say to much we dont want any one to really know all about us.

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Hey Jeffie. Whats your preferred book for use while bashing? Is it the book you use to write down all your different usernames, email and passwords for swellnet? Or the much smaller one, the phone book?

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Well it would seem there are some serious facts to consider here folks!
Reading this thread has been very interesting indeed!
It would seem very aparant to anyone with any kind of interlect that the MWCSRA are working towards conserving the integrity and beauty of a coastline that many surfers Australia wide have experienced.
Obviously surfers are welcome who go and show respect for the coast the frajile enviroment, show respect in the water, clean up after themselves, not use carparks as campgrounds, and leave the cameras at home.
These are clearly very reasonable requests that all surfers including surf companys should start paying attention to !

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Hoooooooooooot!

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let us all remember the purpose.
when were gone the surf and coastline is as remains as close as we can leave it.

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Shippies ay RedNeck, who was right in the thick of exposing that joint.?

I also wonder how many of the paddle/bombie/youtoob clip views were generated by his dummy spit and the ensuing bru-ha-ha. Since I'm now a statistician, I'll take a stab that he generated 20 times more views, putting the event on the world stage via the drama.

Effectively, that behaviour exposed that bombie, THAT coast, much much more than did the surfer. I would have heard of, or seen, that surfer maybe once in the last 12 years, had it not been for the way it was handled.

Decent behaviour cuts BOTH ways. Cameras aren't illegal, vandalism, trespass and harassment are illegal.

I'd reckon you guys are heaps bigger surf media junkies than me anyway. Make that NIMBY surf media junkies.

Laury, you're a dickhead who can't rag better than a 10 year old. And bagging a bloke about his dear old Labrador, he'll get ya from the spirit world... next time something bad comes your way, remember it was The Shadow in the shadows.

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This whole "Biff" argument reeks of bullsh!t and hypocrasy.

The "local" guys who are driving this really need to step out into the big, wide world.

I feel I can make a legit comment on the subject due to the fact, unlike most who claim to be "local", I was born in Ceduna, lived remote, went to school on the coast and learnt to surf at Cactus in the 70's.

I have also moved around this great country of ours, and seen a lot of the world to boot, surfing great waves and hanging with great people where-ever I went.

You lot seem to claim there is a serious lack of respect in and out of the water, well then deal with it, don't talk about it. The ones complaining seem to do an awful lot of talking, but follow through with very little action, and by the time action happens, the horse has bolted.

Step one for bad behaviour in the water, and this goes for both sides of the fence. A surfer snakes, drops in, whatever, tell em that it's unacceptable behaviour.

Step two,. if that surfer does it a second time, don't pussy foot around a stew on it, act decisively...show em straight up that there are repercussions for such behaviour. And that doesn't have to mean a punch in the head either...throw yourself over the falls in front of them on their next wave, even better if the waves are critical. If you are a local, you can handle a beating from the wave to instill some justice. If you happen to come up near them, push em back under and hold em there for a while till they squirm...use your imagination.

Step three, if they do the wrong thing for a third time, then that's their final chance, belt em.

Those who then wish to disregard the ethics of lining up, taking turns and showing god manners will soon learn that there is payola for such action, and the word will soon spread.

There is the occasion when a car load will rock up, well, see above, set some rules in the lineup as soon as they paddle out.

And if a car load of Pros rock up, sure they are gonna charge, but stamp your authority in the water by charging back...they're your waves, you should know them inside out, take off deeper, ride harder, stop this going straight, no turn BS that I see so much of with the local guys when the surfs on. Come on guys, step up and be counted. I'm not saying you gotta surf like Slater, but again, use some imagination.

And if youâ€™re gonna get ya nickers in a knot over them taking footage of a name spot, well, that horse has bolted too, most of the breaks have been outted years before most of the clowns peacocking around now even surfed the coast. If it's a secret spot, then assert your right, tell em it's secret, and for the love of mother ocean and respect of the adventurous spirit, ask em to keep it that way.

Onto the subject of crowded waves on the coast, yes, sometimes the "name" breaks will gather a crowd, but fellas, use your heads and SEARCH. Even the locals fail to do this. Why, stuffed if I know, but I do know that when a swell is on, why they surf the same few name breaks when there is a whole plethora of waves to choose from is a mystery.

I can get uncrowded waves, and I'm talking by myself or with one other mate, as good as, if not better than those few name breaks on all good swells. From Lincoln to Fowlers and beyond, the list is endless, you just have to have a little bit of an adventurous spirit, something which seems to be lacking in many of the west coast surfers...which is strange because many were initially drawn to the west with that same sense of adventure.
Getting back to the hypocrisy of the localism argumentâ€¦if you have a problem with crew coming and surfing â€œyourâ€ waves, donâ€™t dare ever venture out of your blinkered rabbit holes and surf â€œtheirâ€™ wavesâ€¦keep your double standards at home.
One thing is for sure, the wheel of change cannot be stopped, it's the one constant in a chaotic universe...the sooner the guys with issues on localism accept this, the better off they'll be. Accept it. Embrace it. Surf it.

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Well I reckon we should just get some of those sumo suits and sort this one out once and for all. Am I the 500th comment Stu? Surely that's a record?!

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495

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OK I know you all want it...

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So, here I am, thankyou all for your help!

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I'd like to thank, firstly Swellnet, for giving me this incredible opportunity, my parents, my beautiful wife and children for their support, and for all of you, for just being there for me... I am so overcome, I don't know what to say...

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Fuck you upskirt, I wanted to win the prize for the 500th comment. An all expenses 10 day surf charter for 2 with drjeffe, and you jumped in and stole it. Shaun will be gutted , I promised I would take him.

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Haha, can't believe you missed 500 Morris, better luck next story!

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Oh yeh, here we go again, typical, its nothing I haven't been subjected to many, many, many times before. The old tall poppy syndrome. Why does Uplift always win? Now all the haters and those filled with jealousy will try and bring yet another of my achievements down. Too bad losers! No prize for second! Slops for you Mozzy... again! Shawney will be none the wiser, he's slow as a wet week.

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Damn!!!!!

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Pssst, upskirt, seeing as you don't have any friends, I'll come with you on the drjeffie surf charter, but don't tell morris he doesn't need to know.

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Come on Craig, don't baby them, it was never in doubt, kooks (and I emphasise kooks) like mozzy and shawney are nothing but stepping stones to me. I toy with them, let them them feel so important, think that they are so close, then effortlessly scrub the floor with them. Remember shawney? Oh yeh, he was the guy Mr Uplift drubbed.

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Westie not convinced about 3rd option biffo, for that matter not convinced about 2nd option intentional over the falls in front of a snaker/aggro etc. Horses for courses maybe and I'm not in that race. Throwing yourself over the falls in some waves - that'll be fairly dangerous for you and also the gumby snake as I'm sure you are aware of even if its your local. But I'm all for your attitude about the spirit of adventure and just thinking outside the box. Its easy to become complacent. Stoked to hear you grew up on the west coast but also got the travel bug and broadened your horizons, hope you got barrelled everywhere!

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Westie. I agree with many aspects of your post in regards to dealing with bad behaviour in the water or car loads of crew. Spot on,I agree totally.

I also agree nothing stays the same,there are just more people surfing these days ,areas becoming more populated etc the world evolves,but I disagree a local community cannot have a say in how that "wheel of change " happens.

Are you saying bend over and just accept that anyone can come in and do whatever they like ,even at the cost of the other coastal users, local people who are not in agreeance?

So a local community decides they want a say, media exposure for example why should they then have to have it if the majority do not want it?

Communities often campaign against large commercial developments because of impacts that will happen on an area.

In my experience its not about people not being able to go and surf an area its only about how they do it.

Also from my experience people who don't agree because of self interest love to paint a different picture to discredit its intentions.
A few try to profit at the cost of many.

Without a doubt ugly localism exists in places and there should be no room for it. Local boys should get their waves and that is how Ive accepted it when I travel. That's where your remedy for bad behaviour can come in to play.

Sid , youre a total and utter tool.

Accusing Brutus of exposing Shippies? Anyone with better information please enlighten me, but didnt quite a few Tassie locals play a big part in the spotlight on Shippies. As well as the FIFO boys?

As for accusations of Trespass,Vandalism and Harassment you sound like another fairy tale teller known in parts. Looks like you bought it. As I have said before in regards to some matters you know sweet fuck all.

Surf media junky NO,just passionate about some issues and prepard to put my 5 cents in. I have noticed though it is you appearing on many other threads on SW giving your opinion on all matters. Get back to ya fishing business Daddy bought you and stop pretending you have any idea ya beat off!

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Westie I would like to clarify I agree with your thoughts on locals tuning bad behaviour including car loads.
I do not support any tactics that are dangerous ie flicking boards, going over the falls onto people.
But definately if people paddle straight up the inside and generally show bad manners yeah its up to the crew to speak up, pull em up.

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Thank you Westie for a rational, moderate and commonsense post from a ridgy didge local.

It has been my experience that the real born n bred'ers in these type communities, are laid back, casual, lovely people. Often embarassed by the poor conduct of a limited number of certain individuals.

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500 comment record! Maybe stu should do a article on Mark Visser in the SA desert, 1000 comments plus I reckon.

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Sid, Laid back, casual or lovely hardley describes Smucker yet hes 4 th gen or something.

Not always this occurs but nice try to paint it that "blow in locals" are the root problem whist real locals are highly embarrassed by a few trouble makers.

What about the blow in visitors that feel they can exploit an area for personal gain then disappear without any consideration for the people who live there and how they may feel about it?

Like Ive said before some just dont want to get it because it doesnt suit their agenda.

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RN, there are always loose canons at both end of the spectrum, neither offer any help.

oh yeah, SidtheCrim gave me a leg up some time ago, but he also never gave me so much as a phone call for 22 years, but thats none of your business. I've spent most of my life fending for myself with no family in Australia since I was 18 years old. Have I got baggage about that, not at all, in fact I'm very happy go lucky, albeit with an allergy to horrible cunts.

Unlike yourself, to whom I can only recommend psyllium husks, colonic irrigation or a nappy change.

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Totally Natural Fibre Plus is way better Sid!
I think it is anyways,
Fuck the psyllium husk off.
Great stools for sure.

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Thanks for the health tip boys.

One thing I know for certain is that locals around Australia will continue to look after their back yard as they have since the beginning.

I cannot understand how people expect to be welcome somewhere when they arrive in carloads,have no manners in the water or do anything knowingly against the local ideals be it filming or whatever.

Whoever you are(or think you are) in your pond doesn't matter to us,you will get treated accordingly to how you conduct yourself in our pond.

How would I like my surfing experience to be? That's the question you need to ask yourself when you rock up somewhere as a visitor.

Coming soon to a beach near you.

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invasion eh. I no how you fellas all feel

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I think uplifted just went to FIG Jam status...not bad for a bloke who doesn't surf...but talks a great story...as long as its about him...

we have FIG JAM rowls..and now an UplifterFIG JAM also....

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Still bangin on about fig jam brutus, let it go your embarrassing yourself with this obsession. You and upskirt are as bad as each other

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except One of us surfs the other doesn't....!!!

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Interesting interview with FIGJAM in Australia Surfing Life think it was,he didn't want to know about some of the questions put to him.
Past behaviour catching up is it?

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RedNeck, What are you doing reading ASL ?

It's full of exposure, cameras, exploitation, evil corporate scuttlebutt and fully funded by the diabolical Surf Industrial Complex.

Get back in your suckhole pond puddle.

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After all the garbage going on in this thread it might be refreshing to see a different perspective of the locals, there's no "cold threat of violence" in this scenario, just kindness, decency and consideration for others.

http://vimeo.com/68901496#at=0

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@mick63 thanks for the link, incredible after more than 500 comments you shut door with something beautiful #givingback #elliston #awesome ...I have only great memories of my trips to your area the team there in the early 80's were always super cool. Travel is easy go alone or with immediate family no photos and a shit load of respect for those there first and you end up being offered set waves #tooeasy

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Wow Wow Wow
Tyron Swan you are amazing bro, What a fuckn champion mate.
That nearly made me cry.
Thanks mick63 what an awe-inspiring video.
Nice work.

I wouldn't call that duct tape though, it's the stretchy stuff from bunnings, but it works like a dream come true.

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Is there a person of the year award in OZ?

If so Tyron Swan deserves every bit of it.

With out a doubt.

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And I totally agree Welly. Champion effort.

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Ty also charges big waves like a maniac! I saw a photo of him surfing a huge wave on his 9'8" at the bombie on the same day Kelly was out there towing it. The real deal paddling out there with no tow assistance! Respect!!

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Go "Tyron"

Legend bro.

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I'm not waiting for the tin tin et to take place as Tyron Swan deserves a Medal!

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ahhhh.... localism! interesting stuff. Anyone who assualts someone, damages their car, chases kids out the surf or does any of that othe ILLEGAL behaviour is a WANKER, a low life, a turd!

In general if someone shows up at a parking lot or in the line up and harasses you because they don't want you surfing "their" spot, they will drive their car with number plates to the parking lot. Write down the number plate and complain to the police or fight if you are that sort of bloke - keep a steel rod or similar in your car as they normally only attack when they out number you!

We need 100% of these thuggery incidents reported to the police. It will be a small group of kook to average surfers who are invovled in this activity. They are your typical aggro beat my wife and kids type of bloke, you get them everywhere not just SA. If they get reported to the police again and again then this rubbish will stop. Reporting it does not make you a wuss, just responsible as they need to be stopped before they take some guy on 5 to 1 and kick them to death.

I live in South NSW and get waves by myself often. Personally I choose to surf spots that have no-one else out. I will take a crap wave over a crowded one and there are loads of good reefs around that get crowded, I will only surf them for the first hour of light while they are filling up. Half the time though when I am surfing I go straight to those crap waves, and an out of towner will show up and paddle out next to me, sometimes onto my inside. Typically the average to crap beachies I surf have about 5 to 20 almost identical sucky peaks but they will sit on the same one as me and hassle me. I just paddle somewhere else. Perhaps that is what you SA locals should do instead of deteriorating to unsociable and violent acts, if you show up and spot looks to crowded, shake your head and go to another - crowds follow good waves.

If you choose to call a great spot "ours" then sometimes their will be lots of people and their will be cameras and their will be East Coast arses paddling onto your inside at "ours" and trying to be on every set - those East Coast surfers do drive me nuts - Sydney, Gold Coast has the most of them but you get them from Victoria to.

To those travelling, if you go to a good break that is popular do not hassle. If their are twenty people in the water and 4 waves a set, you should wait 5 or 6 or even 7 sets before even paddling for a wave. Just manners, don' t be lured by how perfect the waves are to start hassling because at best you can only get as many waves as the locals. Another tip to those travelling - try the first light surf; typically the aggro beat my wife and kids locals will drink a bit to much and sleep in. Whenever I travel these days I do the dawn patrol as you always get a melow crowd, often older blokes and good surfers - out to have fun and be one with the ocean instead of wanting to get rid of them visitors.

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Burger, is that you? Ulla's

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are there any reports of actual assaults from the west coast of s.a. ?or just intimidation and threats, yorkes surfer may have mentioned one on another thread at cactus but you never really hear of any beatings.

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7 news Adelaide have a story on cactus re no filming no cameras ,handing out pamphlets on whats allowed/not allowed in the surfing reserve.

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And 7 News also ran the photo Swellnet was sent months ago with the wax on the car.

That photo wasn't even taken anywhere near Cactus and Channel 7 claim it was done this week!

"Locals made it clear cameras were not welcome when 7News visited the beach this week, with â€˜No camara (sic) c***â€™ written on the back of the crew's vehicle in wax."

Media watch should get onto this one..

http://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/latest/a/-/newshome/18611296/warning-against-video-and-photos-at-cactus-beach/

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"The National Surfing Reserve Charter prohibits the following within the reserve: surf contests, jet skis, commercial photography, and publishing still or moving images on any format including the Internet".

A very interesting statement. I wasn't aware this was actually a part of the official NSR Charter.

If so, this means no photos or videos can be be published of Cronulla, Narrabeen, Margaret River, Merewether, Maroubra and the other six National Surfing Reserves.

As for everyone being prohibited to "publish still images on any format" - someone better call Christo Reid, as someone's gonna have to issue a nationwide recall of his book 'Cactus'.

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john riddell the 7 news reader, does anyone know if he is still a active surfer in s.a. ?

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"7 news Adelaide have a story on cactus re no filming no cameras ,handing out pamphlets on whats allowed/not allowed in the surfing reserve."

Seems someone has taken it upon themselves to push their own agenda under the NSR banner.

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Udo - yes down around Victor Hbr. He also drives a jet ski. People will point cameras at whatever they like these days and nobody can stop that.

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I love how you guys get so worked up by people trying to slow the exposure down. Is it because you are a big part of the problem? Why not just keep on pissing in each others pockets with defensive posts to justify your existance Sellnet.

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Who's worked up, Mike?

I'm more concerned by people who can't spell then exposure in SA.

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Were you being iranic thin, Stu?

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Yeeeees Whaaaaat.

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It's the thread that wont die. I'm going up to Streaky in two weeks where I'll burn some incense, wave at strangers and tell the barmaid to keep the change. There wont be any biff while I'm around.

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Have to say I had a chuckle a couple of weeks back when the following headline appeared on my news feed:

"Legends say bring back the biff in the wake of the 'squirrel grip' controversy"

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/legends-say-bring-back-the-biff-in-the-wake-of-the-squirrel-grip-controversy/story-e6frf3ou-1226695802984

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Don,t concern yourself with my spelling to much stu, not everybody thinks they are a journalist.

shaun, 1410383312

Race you to 1000 upskirt

uplift, 1410397898

'Race you to 1000 upskirt'

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What a sad, sad, poignant moment. Sean obviously never fully recovered from the battering, and he's still not sure where he is. Its worse than watching Elvis's last concerts. Tragic.

I'll let Barry take it from here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSVTOMkJdqs

evosurfer, 1410401372

Its the 21st century which means everybody is a travelling surfer all around the globe.
To think you can keep these type of waves to your selfish selves is beyond ridicules. Just think what the Nth shore of Ohua have to put up with for 4 or 5 months of the year I myself use to have a world class slab I had to look for people to surf with now when it even looks like breaking there will be 30-50 gaytrays I have to battle with plus others.
By all means keep up localism to rude and poor attitude surfers they deserve to be taught manners but the rest of the travelling surfers who show proper respect you locals should be cool. Lets face it there is noway surfers are going to stop travelling thru and catching a few waves. You cant stop the tide or the surfers so suck it up.

Rabbits68, 1410413229

Back in '99 (hardly a trailblazer I know!!) I visited Cactus as part of a dream surfing mission around Aus. I had heard & read many scary stories about the locals in these parts & it was with a lot of intrepidation that I ventured in.

I found the whole experience to be amazing. Showing a lot of respect goes along way (not matter where you are) to having a great experience.

Clam, 1503557988

Udo said :: "any news links to the streaky missing person ? about 7 years ago I heard that story while out at asu, cold case ,any coroners findings on tit......seems to be just swept under the carpet..."

Yorkesurfer :: "He used to surf ****** with a front foot strap on his board to handle the steep takeoff and had this weird ugly board that had three fins in a straight line across the tail. Like a twinnie with a third fin in the middle. It looked ridiculous but he used to fucken charge and was a snaking cunt so I'm not surprised he pissed so many people off. The name Eric rings a bell. As to his disappearance can't really say. You hear things but who knows? Anyone care to enlighten me?"

Uplift ::"Gidday yorkesurfer, I had a lot of surfs with Eric. He was a nice enough guy, definitely innovative, but ended up spinning out, and just caught up out of his depth with the wrong people."

https://crimestopperssa.com.au/case/eric-lynch/

http://www.australianmissingpersonsregister.com/EricLynch.htm

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/the-cold-case-files-unsolved-sa-murders-reopened/news-story/05d586cc6f5314bd232554213940e0d9

https://www.missingpersons.gov.au/who-missing/sa/lynch-eric

Blowin, 1503562909

I'm grateful when surfers choose to police their stretch of coast against the parasites of the commercial community .