simba, 1461308567

Here ya go,Dave Parkes...........been around forever and rips.

https://www.facebook.com/Kneeboards/

wbat, 1461309685

Hey Chook I like Bruce's boards but am also looking for any young crew really motivated. (not saying Bruce isn't).
The kneeon is 18 month sold. It goes well in small barrels but is a bitch to carve off the top. Also has a tendency to get dragged up the face. I find when it turns it just goes clunk and jags in the new direction. Can't help but think the four fins or lack of rear fin is the culprit.

How do you put photos up? I will show you what it looks like.

wbat, 1461310170

Can't help but think I will end up with Bruce, Dave or Neil but keen to check the scene.

Thanks, images coming.

wbat, 1461310860

Here is the current board. Great at going fast in tight situation but hard to turn with any smoothness.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/nqjBDwm.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/1i0Bhi5.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Rl6fVlx.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/3zOPcvY.jpg[/img]

indo-dreaming, 1461312390

I use to surf with Neil Luke quite a bit when he lived down on the Island, one of the few knee boarders i enjoy watching, i have no idea about Kneeboards but here is his website, he is up Byron way these days.

http://neillukekneeboards.com/

floyd, 1461312798

[quote=indo-dreaming]I use to surf with Neil Luke quite a bit when he lived down on the Island, one of the few knee boarders i enjoy watching, i have no idea about Kneeboards but here is his website, he is up Byron way these days.

http://neillukekneeboards.com/[/quote]

Isn't he living in Peru?

Craig, 1461315540

Wbat, just added [img]  and [/img] tags on either side of the photo links you added. Makes the images show.

indo-dreaming, 1461318474

[quote=floyd][quote=indo-dreaming]I use to surf with Neil Luke quite a bit when he lived down on the Island, one of the few knee boarders i enjoy watching, i have no idea about Kneeboards but here is his website, he is up Byron way these days.

http://neillukekneeboards.com/[/quote]

Isn't he living in Peru?[/quote]

Yeah actually your right, seems he is in Peru now.

wbat, 1461319251

So Dale lives in Costa, Neil lives in Peru, Dave is in Byron, Bruce is in Brookvale and I'm in Margaret River. Talk about a long distance love affair.

You know, if anyone has any comments on the four fin to thruster situation I'm listening.

floyd, 1461322581

There you go lads .... one of Neil's going cheap

http://www.zaksurfboards.com.au/island-neil-luke-kneeboard-62-x-23-1-2-x-2-1-2-019/

chook, 1461738585

here's peter ware from friar tuck talking about quads ...might give you some insight into why your board isn't working so well off the top.
https://youtu.be/xygINOuoNms

BobC, 1461740779

I used to surf winkipop in the early 70's and was fascinated by Peter Wares boards and barrel skills even though I rode a standup. In about 1973 or 4, I asked him to make me a standup board like his kneelo with six channels, an adjustable fin box and double flyers. It was a lot shorter than normal standups then and it went insane. It was also cool to be able to slide the fin forward on fat days to turn easily on crappy waves. Still remember picking it up from the factory and frothing....loved that board, gave it to my brother and he lost it. Was a classic.

blindboy, 1461756078

I think if you asked any of them they would acknowledge their debt in both performance and design to Peter Crawford who basically invented the modern kneeboard somewhere back around 1970 in collaboration with shaper Paul Connors. Then went on to set the standard in performance well into the 80s. He is usually remembered as a photographer but those of us who had the good fortune to surf with him in those days know that he was one of the best and most innovative surfers of his generation and was acknowledged as such by his peers including Michael Petersen and Simon Anderson.
He was a truly inspiring character who had a huge influence on modern surfing and, for a few years there, was way ahead of anyone. He was getting deeper, travelling faster and turning tighter than was possible standing up on the boards of that time. RIP. We still miss you brother!

wbat, 1461756897

All good info..Keep it coming.

caml, 1461756962

Yes ive heard that too bboy

Two words, 1461759042

Early seventies a guy named Mark Ashby was a pretty good kneeboarder in Adelaide. He and a guy named Mark Rivett were among the best surfers in SA at the time, and were making forays to the west coast. Bluegrass music was the big thing, and my best mate's older brother used to have nightly jam sessions at their place, where Ashby and Rivett would hang, and we would hear all the banter. I ended up knowing Rivett pretty well. They were legendary figures back then, and I see a guy named Mark Ashby showed up in Sydney, highly involved in kneeboarding. Surely the same name/guy, unless a coincidence. If its the same guy, looks like he's still full on into kneeboarding. So he would have tons of info etc, as he's been doing it full on, for a long, long time.

BobC, 1461783226

Blindboys right, Peter Crawford was the man, he was everywhere back then.

Two words, 1461992645

Question: Apples, who is actively growing them, who is current and forward thinking?

Answer: Jonathon was the man, he used to grow apples in the past.

Mark: 0/10

wbat, 1461993056

[quote=Two words]Question: Apples, who is actively growing them, who is current and forward thinking?

Answer: Jonathon was the man, he used to grow apples in the past.

Mark: 0/10[/quote]

I feel enlightened.

Two words, 1461993221

We didn't get a mention for nothing!

Two words, 1461993393

Anyway, who is actively shaping knee boards, who is current and forward thinking about them? In the past? Now?

Two words, 1461993479

Maybe Wis?

wbat, 1461993852

[quote=Two words]Maybe Wis?[/quote]
Who is Wis?

sir ambrose beachfucker, 1461993880

[quote=Two words]Early seventies a guy named Mark Ashby was a pretty good kneeboarder in Adelaide. He and a guy named Mark Rivett were among the best surfers in SA at the time, and were making forays to the west coast. Bluegrass music was the big thing, and my best mate's older brother used to have nightly jam sessions at their place, where Ashby and Rivett would hang, and we would hear all the banter. I ended up knowing Rivett pretty well. They were legendary figures back then, and I see a guy named Mark Ashby showed up in Sydney, highly involved in kneeboarding. Surely the same name/guy, unless a coincidence. If its the same guy, looks like he's still full on into kneeboarding. So he would have tons of info etc, as he's been doing it full on, for a long, long time.[/quote]
A fearless s.a. kneeboarder was Grant Nykiel.

wbat, 1461994039

Also i was just looking at the plain shape of my board compared to the image above of the flashpoint and it is way straighter through the hip of my kneeon. I bet that is part of the "straight line" strength of the kneeon. Which as an upshot is great in the barrel but not as good to turn.

Two words, 1461994190

Mark Ward was another really good SA guy too. He rode different looking boards. Pointy, fine things. He was really into his hot cars though, so didn't really click with the in crowd. No idea if he still surfs.

Two words, 1461994430

[quote=wbat][quote=Two words]Maybe Wis?[/quote]
Who is Wis?[/quote]

Wassy and Issy's kid. Not to be confused with Wiz.

sir ambrose beachfucker, 1461994616

Mark passed about 3 decades ago r.i.p.

Two words, 1461994789

He was a good guy. Straight up. His surfing was different, pretty advanced on his knee board, very attacking style.

Hastoes, 1462001626

http://nativekneeboards.com/

Two words, 1462003125

Tons of interesting stuff. Insane construction and finish on some of those boards.

chook, 1462006174

[quote=Hastoes]http://nativekneeboards.com/[/quote]

thanks for posting the link to native kneeboards. they look amazing. i was trying to remeber the name...but all i could rember was his extremely rude and crude screeen name from awhile back on a kneebaord forum.

so i take it Wis was she shaper of wis sticks kneeboards?

chook, 1462006400

[quote=wbat]Also i was just looking at the plain shape of my board compared to the image above of the flashpoint and it is way straighter through the hip of my kneeon. I bet that is part of the "straight line" strength of the kneeon. Which as an upshot is great in the barrel but not as good to turn.[/quote]

i think i read a bruce hart interview where he was talking about the importance of the lack of straight lines.

chook, 1462006656

a neal cameron shaped pete berry design. very unique. i'd love to own one his boards. he had one in the surf shop at milton for a while.
[img]http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzIwWDk2MA==/z/RX0AAOSwiylXBh8R/$_20.JPG[/img]

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/manyana/surfing/kneeboard-surfboard-retro/1109425054

Two words, 1462006658

'so i take it Wis was she shaper of wis sticks kneeboards?'

Was? Or is? He or she?

Two words, 1462006898

One link doesn't open, but the planshape on that gumtree one looks a bit like the boards Mark Ward rode.

udo, 1462007277

Zen do any japs ride kneeboards ?

zenagain, 1462013218

I'm sure they do Udo, but I've never seen one in my area.

Edit: Had a bit of a search around and came up with this.

http://pc-surftools.com/archives/425

chook, 1462067757

of course there are kneelos in japan.
annual meetings in Shizuoka/Hamamatsu and Hamamatsu, Izu,
there are also a few kneelos in kamogawa, chiba.

[img]http://pc-surftools.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/DSC00695.jpg[/img]

winkie, 1462071032

Im a bit late on this one, but remember seeing Mark Ward beat Peter Crawford at '75 Aussie Titles I think. He was hot.

Toppa, 1462090653

I am 53 and have been a kneelo since I was 15 yrs old. My first board was a Ripcurl slab a good beginners board. I then progressed to an Earthrise single with double flyers. It was a great board shaped by Steve Artis, my surfing really improved on this board. I then moved to Strapper boards (Torquay) shaped by Mick DeScascio I rode Strapper twinnies for many years the move from a single fin to a twin fin was amazing. In my forties Neil Luke shaped me a 'fresh fish freak' four fin and a 'freak' double flyer tri thruster. Both boards are amazing and I am surfing better now at my age than ever before. Great boards and a great guy!

wbat, 1462100182

Thanks TOPPA and all others great broad info, very interesting. I like the look and persona of the Neil Luke boards. Kind of a bit out there in a hippy/cruiser sort of way.

FYI I'm 53 as well. Surfed with Peter Crawford in Bali, quite early days.

All good stuff.

crip, 1462103833

My last board was an old Strapper twinnie but a few years ago got a Neil Luke "freak", 6'0 swallow tail 3-fin. Goes great in bigger down the line waves (think overhead Winki or G-land) but does not like to turn. I should try a different back fin, bu might also try a 4-fin. I like the look of David Parkes boards, but also like Mick's Strapper boards.

Toppa, 1462160384

Check your fin placement Crip. The 'freak' is a highly responsive performance board, Neil does recommend a particular fin set up for this board.

udo, 1462170026

[quote=zenagain]I'm sure they do Udo, but I've never seen one in my area.

Edit: Had a bit of a search around and came up with this.

http://pc-surftools.com/archives/425[/quote]
2nd pic in that link- PC at DeeWhy ...scroll down some flextail kneeboard pics.

crip, 1462251184

[quote=Toppa]Check your fin placement Crip. The 'freak' is a highly responsive performance board, Neil does recommend a particular fin set up for this board.[/quote]
Yep, thanks Toppa, I wasn't sure what fins to get when I picked up the board so I just went with what Neil recommended: "Vector" set of fins, which has a distinctive back fin that looks like it would give great drive but not so god for short snappy turns. Been thinking of trying to get a different one that would allow shorter-arc turns for smaller days.

NativeKB, 1462343123

wbat, i read your over in WA I recently sent one over there to Paul Taylor . It's a copper thread carbon Kook model. Contact him on FB if you want to check it out. My boards are all fully hand shaped with quality old school glass jobs.
Check out some more on my Native Kneeboards FB page too.
https://www.facebook.com/NativeKneeboards/?ref=bookmarks Cheers Al

wbat, 1462356258

[quote=NativeKB]wbat, i read your over in WA I recently sent one over there to Paul Taylor . It's a copper thread carbon Kook model. Contact him on FB if you want to check it out. My boards are all fully hand shaped with quality old school glass jobs.
Check out some more on my Native Kneeboards FB page too.
https://www.facebook.com/NativeKneeboards/?ref=bookmarks Cheers Al[/quote]

Cheers nativekb, I will check out the site for sure
.

smicko, 1469969423

Hey wbat, don't be afraid to persist with Harto's Kneeon boards, I reckon he's by far the most progressive kneelo shaper in Oz at present. One thing that very few eastern state kneelo shapers get is the nature of the waves over here, that thing you have would be great at Lennox but has way too much tail for over here, especially Margies area, even when it's summer beachies down your way. The other thing they do is put in way too much volume, when you have power you can get away with less volume, especially when you have flippers to help you get in.
I bought a couple of boards off Nick earlier this year, one is OK, planshape is great but fin placement is a bit out for me. The other is the best board I've surfed in 30 years and that is a thruster pin that Harto shaped for himself, 5'9" x 23.5" x 2.5" To be fair, Harto didn't rate this board, maybe it had too much foam for him or maybe he just didn't get it out in enough juice. Regardless I've got 35kg plus on Nick and this thing cranks for me in anything that is hollow that I've had it in from 2ft to 6ft. So much so that I had Katana copy it in epoxy for longevity.

kneehighdesigns, 1470787478

http://neeprokneeboards.com.au/ this is what your looking for ! Gold Coast Qld

pointy, 1471496842

get onto facebook, there is a kneeboard group: 'Kneeboard Surfing' which has plenty of shapers in it and just put on a post asking for info (it's a closed group so you will have to ask to join first)

There is also also afacebook page called 'Kneebay' which has kneeboards for sale

BSnyder, 1472345462

Been working on a few Kneelo's. Concave decks and flex tails.
http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p402/barrysnyderdesigns/Kneeboards/DSCN0964_zpsuhbwjzpu.jpg
http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p402/barrysnyderdesigns/Kneeboards/DSCN0982_zpshb32izni.jpg
http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p402/barrysnyderdesigns/Kneeboards/kneelo2_zpsyvhncnjx.jpg
http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p402/barrysnyderdesigns/Kneeboards/DSCN1149_zpsqellxzgg.jpg
http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p402/barrysnyderdesigns/Kneeboards/DSCN1849_zpsekh5zkan.jpg

chook, 1482452588

after the young crew, eh. the kneeon guy(s) are the new kids on the block.

to put images up, go to http://imgur.com. upload image, cut and paste link from the "sharing" box and paste it in here.

chook, 1486089470

how about bruce hart at flashpoint for thrusters.

i've always liked the look of neil luke/island kneebaords, but have never ridden one.

so, is that one of the new kneeons you have? they look like very nice boards.

Dustsurf, 1534884519

[quote=wbat]Looking to get a new kneeboard and really short of options on shapers. Any thoughts?

I've got a four fin Kneeon which is great in short sharp barrels but really funky for carving. Also ridden a Dale Ponsford "Hardware" albeit quite old which was pretty good on the face. He is overseas now so looking for suggestions.[/quote]

Dustsurf, 1534884600

Hi
Have a look at my more progressive designs at www.dustsurf.net

Sprout, 1627962495

Any recommendations for good kneeboards on the East coast Aus these days?

groundswell, 1628331937

There was a really good kneeboard shaper in Byron bay forget his name though...made flextail kneeboards that went really well.

udo, 1628332858

Dave Parkes ?

groundswell, 1628333098

Thats him Udo, you're always on the ball.