Simple things can be fun.

BTW awesome stuff above seeds.

Robwilliams, 1709689125

https://youtu.be/jweosAx5ugU?si=QMKHcsqKX4MKUNlI
https://youtu.be/lYULjv8XZu4?si=hg-hwyNV3rce6qTm
https://youtu.be/9wQOurLq5Q4?si=4Bsie7xYC3FN2llc
https://youtu.be/2e4oRKhilhA?si=csxyiBAVWasiVcRk
https://youtu.be/fZeuWoIBuo8?si=dkAj7QaFIjVKYL35
https://youtu.be/-hEQtcvCYAs?si=ZmVMajPiQ78NEb_K

truebluebasher, 1709893893

Happy IWD swellnet chix...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY6CWGGYO9I&list=OLAK5uy_nG_y6RzXO031ciY6bFYRDKRQTQyUtfUew&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hBYib_-Mw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytuoo-WYo58

Kook-Man2001, 1710457859

Home Front have been on high rotation since '23...





Guest vox in the second clip by the Chisel's frontman. They released a new LP this year...killer stuff.

blackers, 1710483956

Nice, thanks Kookman.

Robwilliams, 1710637633

https://youtu.be/nf-do84rkKA?si=hJ15fTGYYsfp1npy
https://youtu.be/ps0kE5YH2To?si=faX41VMVxF0iRw4N
https://youtu.be/8Gu2ouJNmXc?si=5oUJ9yAVj36tPLG0
https://youtu.be/R8AOAap6_k4?si=okF0_tj0K4RpMMLa
https://youtu.be/HwMZ20ZVZeE?si=Y1Si745GZJRInw78
https://youtu.be/sLm3Khusq_8?si=eF5lj_9uPj6eRi2y

Robwilliams, 1711073971

https://youtu.be/rSBTHRuXjCs?si=N5rwMA2vGvC4xz6H

https://youtu.be/1hKVJtEAuIs?si=9Y0ceuqjh5cVOYWy
https://youtu.be/wMPEDQ3uSV8?si=iMhFpogSflNP1eH9
https://youtu.be/LuTchhCR7dY?si=XD0EefEe_8Hh75jr
https://youtu.be/fjvRQfSV-0o?si=w-mzWT-QoWbvYDcu
https://youtu.be/8zSODUOoE8w?si=LyuahXIfzErvt_wz
https://youtu.be/_FlaeI_IDSU?si=G_pReRmLnKc7OU3m
https://youtu.be/NERzLlHo-D0?si=FBiV3X0xFBSYZ7jt

blackers, 1711088218

For Craig, who's recent piece on sea surf temps brought this to mind. The reissue of course.

Robwilliams, 1711243383

https://youtu.be/SuUKhTQhMz8?si=3iVAe0Q5Wyr_Lzsr
https://youtu.be/PeQAZsyucbQ?si=7hSKNp-LUiyLZYyB
https://youtu.be/4oA741VIVfw?si=UVAA-UTc6JrAuY1r
https://youtu.be/Fk-4lXLM34g?si=__xYB3Qu4QgYnsgw
https://youtu.be/6zSZBAcQ-5M?si=PZI16aWPBffZPz-G

Jelly Flater, 1711272041

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8b3ckldWoX8

Jelly Flater, 1711323385

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RpqlbrSNjl0

Jelly Flater, 1711328100

$100 limit
- stick with triathlons ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ZX4O-Efao&pp=ygU9d2hhdCBwZWFybCBqYW0gc291bmRzIGxpa2UgdG8gcGVvcGxlIHdobyBkb24ndCBsaWtlIHBlYXJsIGphbQ%3D%3D

thermalben, 1711328117

Pearl Jam are playing at the end of next year. Wasn't really much of a fan back in the day, but certainly appreciate what they did.

However.. tickets are $500 for cheap seats and $600 for the 'premium' seats (this is at the Heritage Bank Stadium, on the Gold Coast).

Eh? Since when did concerts become this expensive?

A single day at Splendour in the Grass is $180, three days is $400.

What's the most anyone has paid for tickets to a single-headliner? Can't recall what mine is (I prefer smaller, more intimate shows over stadium gigs) but it'd be hard to justify paying much more than $80-100 for even my most favourite band.

Dx3, 1711328160

[quote=thermalben]Pearl Jam are playing at the end of next year. Wasn't really much of a fan back in the day, but certainly appreciate what they did.

However.. tickets are $500 for cheap seats and $600 for the 'premium' seats (this is at the Heritage Bank Stadium, on the Gold Coast).

Eh? Since when did concerts become this expensive?

A single day at Splendour in the Grass is $180, three days is $400.

What's the most anyone has paid for tickets to a single-headliner? Can't recall what mine is (I prefer smaller, more intimate shows over stadium gigs) but it'd be hard to justify paying much more than $80-100 for even my most favourite band.[/quote]

The larger global artists have gone all in on completely fucking over their fans and trying to squeeze as much money out of them as possible. Don't tour here for 10 years, then when they do they charge through the nose. No doubt they'll squeal about the cost of putting on the show, but as someone who's seen PJ multiple times at far smaller venues than Marvel freaking stadium, I don't have any interest in getting ass-reamed by their current prices.

indo-dreaming, 1711335808

[quote=thermalben]Pearl Jam are playing at the end of next year. Wasn't really much of a fan back in the day, but certainly appreciate what they did.

However.. tickets are $500 for cheap seats and $600 for the 'premium' seats (this is at the Heritage Bank Stadium, on the Gold Coast).

Eh? Since when did concerts become this expensive?

A single day at Splendour in the Grass is $180, three days is $400.

What's the most anyone has paid for tickets to a single-headliner? Can't recall what mine is (I prefer smaller, more intimate shows over stadium gigs) but it'd be hard to justify paying much more than $80-100 for even my most favourite band.[/quote]

Wooo that's crazy, and stadium size gigs suck anyway, they are like Wave pools compared to Ocean surfing.

Id much much rather see a lesser known band at a pub like say the Tote or Corner hotel in Melbourne, the biggest size gigs i will go too are say the size of the Metro in Sydney or Forum in Melbourne or a festival.

Festivals are okay as just give you a chance to see bands you love but also check out bands that you wouldn't bother outside of a festival.

For instance i would never buy tickets to go see Pearl Jam even if only $50, but id be quite happy to go to a festival where they were the headliner and check out their set.

Sprout, 1711336589

Far out $500 is insane for a stadium gig of sleep inducing folk rock.

icandig, 1711339370

$120 ish for Chilli Peppers. I wouldn't normally go to a stadium gig either but made an exception as a long time fan. Should have gone to Qotsa in Torquay but it was a festival and my old bones can't handle a long day in the sun like I used to.

basesix, 1711341221

the kids and I payed $200 ea for Fleet Foxes & the National at ICC Sydney Theatre earlier this month. Steep as, but undeniably civilised and the sound was absolutely perfect.

AndyM, 1711342355

Bloody hell.

blackers, 1711353407

Ouch. $20 to see this lot headline a triple bill at their ep launch.

icandig, 1711356993

Ouch is right. $20 was too much. That music hurt my head.

blackers, 1711361396

[quote=icandig]Ouch is right. $20 was too much. That music hurt my head.[/quote]
Haha, not for everyone then. They do grow on you and there is still time, the gig is next weekend.
https://tickets.oztix.com.au/outlet/event/ea271c7e-4bd0-495c-99e2-bdbf90b27797

flollo, 1711361439

[quote=thermalben]Pearl Jam are playing at the end of next year. Wasn't really much of a fan back in the day, but certainly appreciate what they did.

However.. tickets are $500 for cheap seats and $600 for the 'premium' seats (this is at the Heritage Bank Stadium, on the Gold Coast).

Eh? Since when did concerts become this expensive?

A single day at Splendour in the Grass is $180, three days is $400.

What's the most anyone has paid for tickets to a single-headliner? Can't recall what mine is (I prefer smaller, more intimate shows over stadium gigs) but it'd be hard to justify paying much more than $80-100 for even my most favourite band.[/quote]

Double digits is the max I’ll pay. I just don’t want to spend more than that on anyone. I have other financial priorities. Pearl jam would be awesome, I love them. I went to a concert in Eastern Europe in 2006, I don’t know how I survived, it was nuts.

flollo, 1711361526

[quote=basesix]the kids and I payed $200 ea for Fleet Foxes & the National at ICC Sydney Theatre earlier this month. Steep as, but undeniably civilised and the sound was absolutely perfect.[/quote]

Yeah, I was contemplating this but I’m not a huge fan of The Nationals. They’ve got some great songs but can be slow going at times.

basesix, 1711363284

yeh @flollo, I've never understood the National attraction either, I mean, they're fine..
the kids and I just have meaningful fleet foxes family memories..

but as we all know, plenty of unreal overseas bands under $50.  Local stuff usually cheap as, and your money goes to good.  Gotta keep an eye on it though if you go to a few each month.

A mate made a good point about cost-of-living for 'the youth':  how could they possibly afford going to gigs like we used to?  (I am hoping the answer is a wicked grass-roots scene, venue-accessibility willing, or backyard parties, neighbours willing).

My only other expensive one coming up is Peter Hook and the Light at the Forum, $85. Seems reasonable.

flollo, 1711363746

Yeah, I agree. Prices are out of control. I tend to attend the theatre gigs. Intimate settings, great sound systems and lots of alternative options. Festivals are overrated and overly expensive. Shame on Pear Jam though, I would love to see them but I can’t justify the cost. This unplugged Porch is a classic, always brings great memories.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llOpE85bmW0&pp=ygUXUGVhcmwgaGFtIG10diB1bnBsdWdnZWQ%3D

flollo, 1711364734

A bit of this would be good. Unfortunately Keith Flint died and we would get arrested for doing this shit in Australia. But hopefully the day will come. Sadly, it will have to be in another country. It’s just not the same here.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tZuwiGo3hS8&pp=ygUTcHJvZGlneSBsaXZlIG1vc2Nvdw%3D%3D

Robwilliams, 1711419695

https://youtu.be/a4eav7dFvc8?si=_fqR8sZHgVbYLw-W
https://youtu.be/xkSERfIh58A?si=JiBkpn-lSz4s3MzS
https://youtu.be/qtD1IpH5a5Q?si=elgV56JPfHQHYnzv
https://youtu.be/2pqiTj7HOqg?si=gxukAwhbdlBovURA
https://youtu.be/8kMv6l9K9SQ?si=9HiKhMgZ-m-bTkP9https://youtu.be/lsuDBiWO3fs?si=RXW_nqLCYaXI12UQ

Kook-Man2001, 1711508332

[quote=flollo]A bit of this would be good. Unfortunately Keith Flint died and we would get arrested for doing this shit in Australia. But hopefully the day will come. Sadly, it will have to be in another country. It’s just not the same here.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tZuwiGo3hS8&pp=ygUTcHJvZGlneSBsaXZlIG1vc2Nvdw%3D%3D[/quote]

Sorry if I missed something but what would we get arrested for? What can't we do in Australia that was happening in that clip?

flollo, 1711582603

I was being metaphorical. I don't think we would get arrested although, burning flares indoors would be controversial. My point was that I had some great concerts in different parts of the world and crowds are nuts in some places. Different from here.

flollo, 1711582678

There you have it, Splendour in the Grass is canceled. Probably can't sell enough tickets at these insane prices?

basesix, 1711583006

yeh, and kylie not the puller they were hoping maybe ... festival wisdom is that tickets will be down if the first week doesn't sell strong, a few festivals have canned it after a poor first week. heard a good interview on RN yesterday, a guy making the point that festivals are often the 'gateway drug' to a lifetime of being engaged in the live arts, and important beyond just the event.

freeride76, 1711584797

Spoke to my daughter who is in the target market.

None of her peers were even remotely interested in Splendour (they used to froth on it).

Lame line-up and too expensive.

AndyM, 1711584801

Tough musical times for the kids.
Seems they're not interested in "legacy" acts and good for them if they really have moved on from the bland porridge that is Lime Cordial/Spacey Jane/Jungle Giants/Ocean Alley etc etc.
But where to?
JJJ as far as I know is continuing its slide into irrelevance, losing touch with its target audience and consequently losing even more market share.
Maybe terrestrial radio just can't compete with the algorithms of Spotify, it just can't be everything to everyone.
In any case I hope that a creative live music scene (as distinct from JJJ's embarrassing Like A Version) not only hangs in there but flourishes.
Thankfully there're still a few low key places around here that are willing to host up and comers.

AndyM, 1711585101

I could be wrong but I'm feeling a slight resurgence of grass roots live original music around here.
Some unrenovated dingy pubs with low ceilings are still willing to host, in contrast to the big buck places.

Craig, 1711585250

The expense would have to be the major barrier.

To spend hundreds just to get in, then paying $15 and upwards for a drink isn't sustainable for me, let alone the kids. Then there's food, transport, accom etc.

The lineup was also very soft, not sure where they can go from here..

Reducing ticket prices and the cost of food/beverage but then the artists apparently cost a lot to book in. Tricky situation.

I'm stoked I got to live and experience the growth of the festival scene from Falls back in Lorne, through to Laneway and Splendour. It seems to have all peaked around or just before 2019 and then declined from there.

AndyM, 1711585558

FR how does she find new music?
Streaming?
Does she go out to see local bands?

AndyM, 1711586096

Craig I see the same thing with Bluesfest.
Different demographic but weak lineup and bloody expensive.
Fucked if I want to see Jack Johnson and Tom Jones.
Although it might be interesting to see what the Tedeschi Trucks Band and also Devon Allman and Duane Betts are doing with that southern rock/blues/Americana.

flollo, 1711586600

[quote=AndyM]Tough musical times for the kids.
Seems they're not interested in "legacy" acts and good for them if they really have moved on from the bland porridge that is Lime Cordial/Spacey Jane/Jungle Giants/Ocean Alley etc etc.
But where to?
JJJ as far as I know is continuing its slide into irrelevance, losing touch with its target audience and consequently losing even more market share.
Maybe terrestrial radio just can't compete with the algorithms of Spotify, it just can't be everything to everyone.
In any case I hope that a creative live music scene (as distinct from JJJ's embarrassing Like A Version) not only hangs in there but flourishes.
Thankfully there're still a few low key places around here that are willing to host up and comers.[/quote]

Radio can certainly compete. I was a massive Triple J follower, I wouldn't even consider listening to any other stations. I only stopped in the last 2-3 years as it became completely unbearable (and even then, it was barely digestible for years before that). I purely stopped listening due to crappy content and childish, immature hosts. It wasn't the algorithms that stopped me from listening.

Craig, 1711586632

Interesting point this by Illy..

https://twitter.com/illyal/status/1772841585925103866

flollo, 1711587005

A good point. Hard to argue against that.

Craig, 1711587062

Same Follo, listen to Double JJ now.

AndyM, 1711587214

[quote=flollo][quote=AndyM]Tough musical times for the kids.
Seems they're not interested in "legacy" acts and good for them if they really have moved on from the bland porridge that is Lime Cordial/Spacey Jane/Jungle Giants/Ocean Alley etc etc.
But where to?
JJJ as far as I know is continuing its slide into irrelevance, losing touch with its target audience and consequently losing even more market share.
Maybe terrestrial radio just can't compete with the algorithms of Spotify, it just can't be everything to everyone.
In any case I hope that a creative live music scene (as distinct from JJJ's embarrassing Like A Version) not only hangs in there but flourishes.
Thankfully there're still a few low key places around here that are willing to host up and comers.[/quote]

Radio can certainly compete. I was a massive Triple J follower, I wouldn't even consider listening to any other stations. I only stopped in the last 2-3 years as it became completely unbearable (and even then, it was barely digestible for years before that). I purely stopped listening due to crappy content and childish, immature hosts. It wasn't the algorithms that stopped me from listening.[/quote]
Flollo what radio station do you listen to now?

AndyM, 1711587374

I had a go at JJ but I've been there before, first time around.

I'm 100% Spotify except for The Minefield's weekly episode which I never miss.

AndyM, 1711587704

So what's changed culturally that people will go to mainstream acts in a stadium in preference to a festival?
We can agree it's tightening of belts but what else is it?

By the way, just had my first listen to Fred again - way more middle of the road than I was expecting.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that current music is very conservative.

icandig, 1711588131

Torquay "Here comes the sun" festival this weekend. $130 is pretty steep for "bland porridge." Looks like it will run though with only 90 odd tickets left.....probably spill over punters going to Bells. I'm a fan of Ball Park, but I don't know much about Ruby Fields and ambivalent about Ocean Alley.... I only really listen to radio for talkback now. Every now and then I let Spotify DJ try and push new music on me.

https://tickets.oztix.com.au/outlet/event/4a43dde1-9a11-4a16-be22-9031b55fffaf?utm_source=SS&utm_campaign=Spon&utm_source=Search&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=HS24&utm_id=SS&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqs7SqOCVhQMVNqtmAh3ArwSFEAAYASAAEgIbY_D_BwE


Last good gig I went to was a nostalgia trip with the Models at Barwon Club.

Kook-Man2001, 1711589143

[quote=flollo]I was being metaphorical. I don't think we would get arrested although, burning flares indoors would be controversial. My point was that I had some great concerts in different parts of the world and crowds are nuts in some places. Different from here.[/quote]

Go and see these guys next time they play in your area. The shows they did in '22 at the Tote were loose as...saw some lights get ripped from the ceiling.

AndyM, 1711589459

Did a nostalgia trip up in Brisbane a few weeks ago with The Church aka Steve Kilbey and friends.
Saw them at Bluesfest a few years ago and they were unreal but the Brisbane show at The Triffid was lacklustre.
Kilbey concentrated on his slower, later stuff which didn't get the crowd moving at all.
Still think he's one of Australia's best ever songwriters.

basesix, 1711591969

I always check what's on at the Crown and Anchor, Metro, Lion Arts when in Adelaide.
Barwon Club, Old Bar, Evelyn, etc in Melbs.. how's Perth going for a live scene? ..you guys don't have pokies over there do you?

AndyM, 1711592007

[quote=Kook-Man2001][quote=flollo]I was being metaphorical. I don't think we would get arrested although, burning flares indoors would be controversial. My point was that I had some great concerts in different parts of the world and crowds are nuts in some places. Different from here.[/quote]

Go and see these guys next time they play in your area. The shows they did in '22 at the Tote were loose as...saw some lights get ripped from the ceiling.

[/quote]
Good to see that those stage divers dragged themselves away from playing Fortnight.

blackers, 1711593337

When in Melbourne try the Last Chance Rock Rock and Roll Bar. As trad a pub as you can find, lots of gigs by small up and comers. For about the price of a pint you can see 3 bands. Some great, some not so. Can't go too far wrong. As for radio, 3RRR or PBS streaming are good at times. Lots of variety, so easy to find your thing in there somewhere.

GreenJam, 1711606579

aah, I dont know about that Craig, I feel it all peaked well before that. Maybe just my age, tastes..., but for mine, early 2000s was the peak. mid-late 90s and early 2000s was the best of times - zzz Market Days (the original festivals - cheap, wild, fun...), early Livids, Big Day Outs, early Homebakes, that Summersault festival... all more affordable, great lineups, looser atmosphere... it all went to shit not long after that

basesix, 1711606775

any guinea fowl yet GJ?
(I'm down to 1! fkn foxes)
Great intel @blackers, cheers

AndyM, 1711623735

[quote=GreenJam]aah, I dont know about that Craig, I feel it all peaked well before that. Maybe just my age, tastes..., but for mine, early 2000s was the peak. mid-late 90s and early 2000s was the best of times - zzz Market Days (the original festivals - cheap, wild, fun...), early Livids, Big Day Outs, early Homebakes, that Summersault festival... all more affordable, great lineups, looser atmosphere... it all went to shit not long after that[/quote]
Mid 90s for sure.
Zed market days were classic, no kids in cute festival outfits there, they were grungy and loose and maybe a little dark. Went to a few, one at Kangaroo Point with the Story Bridge looming over head, one down by the river at Davies Park and one in Musgrave Park complete with arson, general anarchy and mounted police horse charges.
Who the fuck needs tv with entertainment like that.
I don't remember much about the one up at Wickham Terrace, the acid was pretty strong.

blackers, 1711685532

I guess tastes change as we get older. My lad, 20, listens to JJJ, is keen on seeing bands I feel are ho hum, but it floats his boat. Each generation wants to be different from those who came before. The kids are alright and deserve the chance to do whatever they want, like we did.
Anyways, some chill out Americana is floating my boat after a fun surf on a beautiful autumn day down here in the semi colon of Aus.

AndyM, 1711693930

Grant Lee Buffalo was great, had a couple of good albums back in the day.

thermalben, 1711696834

Throwing Muses took up a lot of airtime in my car in the early 90's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFzCtKZo24M

blackers, 1711697267

Same same. From Kristen Hersh's first solo album.

thermalben, 1711698341

Hard to go past Belly too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBi676v4Gs4

AndyM, 1711698572

Blackers - whatever the kids are into, that's just how it's going to be, fashion comes and goes. I find that there's a surprising amount of kids who have great taste in music, including jazz and big band (parental influence no doubt).
But it really does seem that JJJ are missing something, they must be if they're haemorrhaging their target audience the way they are.

thermalben, 1711698840

Where do people find out about new music these days? Is there any other way, other than social media algorithms?

I really miss having a couple of street mag reviewers I trusted to point me in the right direction of worthy new releases. Or the guys at the local record store telling about some obscure band I needed to know about. Or the dingy pub who only ever booked the most interesting touring bands from interstate and overseas, so I was guaranteed to have a good night out.

AndyM, 1711698944

I reckon the highest rotation on my CD player (and my CD-to-tape adapter in the car) around '92-'94 were this mob.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S87lUX_CI2Q

AndyM, 1711699187

[quote=thermalben]Where do people find out about new music these days? Is there any other way, other than social media algorithms?

I really miss having a couple of street mag reviewers I trusted to point me in the right direction of worthy new releases. Or the guys at the local record store telling about some obscure band I needed to know about. Or the dingy pub who only ever booked the most interesting touring bands from interstate and overseas, so I was guaranteed to have a good night out.[/quote]
On one hand it feels like there's so much out there but on the other hand it feels like a massive void.

thermalben, 1711700830

Totally. A billion songs available at my fingertips via Spotify and I keep rotating the same twenty albums from my yoof.

frog, 1711701987

Songs of our youth have carved deep grooves in our souls and memory banks. New songs just don't fit the grooves.

But there is more to it than just that. It ain't just getting older. Rick Beato tells us why the good old days are really a thing - he knows his stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks4c_A0Ach8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYX1YFiQTDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQoWUtsVFV0

AndyM, 1711702860

Personally, I still listen to all the classics but I rarely listen to the favourites of my youth, they had their moment and I'd prefer to let them go, hence not listening to JJ.
I'm still exploring music and finding great stuff regularly on Spotify but apart from electronic stuff it's all old. But if I haven't heard it before it's all new anyway.
Like Fela Kuti.
Only discovered him about five or six years ago and with the size of his back catalogue that kept me going for quite a while.
So I keep digging for stuff like that, whatever it is.
Dig through genres or periods of time or whatever.
But when recent bands are "from a particular genre" I usually feel like it's all been done before, and better, with more authenticity and passion.

basesix, 1711703115

Man, well that's it, full circle. A page a month for a dozen years.
Sorry we couldn't help @thermalben ; )

(street press is back in adelaide, citymag, the note... https://www.thenote.com.au/
- the note even dedicated half an issue to rip it up and rob dunstan last year,
how are other cities going with hard-copy street press reimaginings?)

AndyM, 1711704095

Interesting vids Frog.

frog, 1711704200

I don't over listen to my old favourites. A treat every now and then. Jump around between artists with no plan or habit of constant music being on. They are precious. I want them fresh, not stale from repetition.

No spotify for me. Makes it all too accessible.

Silence / no music can be good.

Every now and then a more current voice or song will cut through and strike that special groove my brain seems to want. So there is stuff to explore. Just not always the time or inclination.

There is also the thing on being the first time something has been done that gives authenticity and vibe. That opportunity ran out in the 1990's.

indo-dreaming, 1711704874

Ive honestly given up on trying to get into new music and just accepted that ive gotten old, im so stuck in the mid 80s to mid 00' period mostly 90s, but im now digging through the stuff that i missed from this era, and im finding really good stuff i missed or maybe didn't give a fair go, my taste has also expanded so stuff i thoght I didnt like i now do like some of it, so sometimes you have to give things another go.

I like just mixing in half a dozen songs from bands i never got into or overlooked in a spotify mix with songs i already love and i then often find myself craving those new old songs and wanting more from that artist.

blackers, 1711705692

The past is nice but not all. You can use the algorithms to help find new stuff, follow some of the suggestions, type in random genres, fuck with it. A bit of internet radio, read reviews, Shazam always at the ready. Also just rock up to a venue and see whats happening. Lotsa stuff.
Must admit, I feel overwhelmed walking into a bookstore. Couldn't even think where to start these days.

AndyM, 1711706266

I reckon don't be afraid to expand your horizons, go beyond what you grew up with.
Some big band stuff from the 30's rocks as hard as most things you can imagine while good jazz can take you to special places.
There's rockabilly, psychadelic rock, progressive house, latin jazz, afrobeat....
Heaps to explore.

icandig, 1711713127

I think I've posted this before...if you're stuck on a genre and want more of the same try music match.

https://www.music-map.com/freak+slug

I found these guys on there and had them on high rotation for a while. Might be a hard sell, but I like the kind of ethereal melody in this and some of their other songs. Good to listen to if feeling mellow. Feel a little like a creepy uncle posting the video though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YqR8zHVfgI

R00ney, 1711754969

Didn't mind that at all, icd.
Have to admit that i have a thing for girl bands...from the 60s all the way through to now-ish.
Creepy uncle???
Yeah i get that, but hey, i really do like the music.
One of my favourites, Giant Drag/Annie Hardy. Some dark stuff/issues in there but...
Just enjoy the music.
https://youtu.be/pUGHztZ86mU?si=AYSgSLSBx3hj8Uqv
https://youtu.be/rq9G4PhIZi8?si=BLsLnp_O5HU3tPg2
https://youtu.be/kbVfukrYzJo?si=qAq-Qitcxe0CBzeG

GreenJam, 1711760559

g'day basesix - no mate, no Guinea Fowl yet. Just been distracted keeping the place in order, with all the wet weather and abundant growth on everything just keeping up has been difficult without taking on an extra responsibility. Plus, the neighbour's flock of them has been wandering through my place quite a bit, so have been happy with that for now, And thankfully, no major tick bites lately... but that's for another thread

Tunes - nice description of the ZZZ market days AndyM - that sums it up pretty well. Yes, some darkness and danger in them back then, but that was also part of the excitement and adventure. On the 'horse charge' one, I see a zzz history researcher is doing some investigating into it, wanting first-hand accounts of peoples' experiences. I saw a link in one of their weekly email newsletters I get. Had thought about giving some feedback, but my experience was also very blurred by the acid... and bongs and cheap VBs. Just know it was total chaos and I felt lucky not to have been run over by a panicked horse. I do recall throwing a can at the cop on the horse and scoring a direct hit though, so felt I got some payback for the average punter, before fleeing

still loving this thread with all the cool tunes suggested - thanks everyone. Have enjoyed some of the mellower ones thrown up recently. My offering on that is Mess Esque - here's a cool tune off a great self-titled album. Good background sounds, shagging tunes perhaps...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzwZl4Ieysw

something I've been enjoying over the last year is attending the local town's Acoustic Night - open stage, anyone can put their name up on the board, and we get 2 songs from each performer. Very family friendly, and random, some weirdness amongst it, but some very talented young musos testing themselves out, and sometimes very experienced ones, drifter types, that might be passing through the area and stun the crowd with some great tunes. Had an 80'something fella perform recently who had toured with Loius Armstrong back in the day, he had an OBE for his music efforts. Great stuff.

finally, for now, I've also had this on in the background of recent times - it's been a bumper mushie season!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6k0FlHGrZE

indo-dreaming, 1711766216

I dont want to be all hipster like but i swear my ears just warm more to the analogue sound compared to digital produced music especially when they use things like autotune, it takes away a natural human element, even slight imperfection is sometimes a good thing.

AndyM, 1711769561

Autotune is an abomination.

basesix, 1711771266

how funny was it when earthy ol' justin vernon played about with autotune and made something quite cool?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL5-8QEe_G0

blackers, 1711783346

[quote=basesix]Man, well that's it, full circle. A page a month for a dozen years.
Sorry we couldn't help @thermalben ; [/quote]
I meant to credit you with this one basesix. Great work, you have summed up the internet.

udo, 1711786922

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-30/how-religion-crept-into-popular-music-and-still-lurks-there/103649300

icandig, 1711837684

[quote=R00ney]Didn't mind that at all, icd.
Have to admit that i have a thing for girl bands...from the 60s all the way through to now-ish.
Creepy uncle???
Yeah i get that, but hey, i really do like the music.
One of my favourites, Giant Drag/Annie Hardy. Some dark stuff/issues in there but...
Just enjoy the music.
[/quote]
Cheers ROOney. Had a quick listen - I'll definitely dig a bit deeper.

icandig, 1711838451

[quote=indo-dreaming]I dont want to be all hipster like but i swear my ears just warm more to the analogue sound compared to digital produced music especially when they use things like autotune, it takes away a natural human element, even slight imperfection is sometimes a good thing.[/quote]

[quote=AndyM]Autotune is an abomination.[/quote]

[quote=basesix]how funny was it when earthy ol' justin vernon played about with autotune and made something quite cool?
[/quote]

It's all just sound - no matter how it's made...if it makes you feel something -good, bad, happy or sad, it's fine.

That Bon Iver's tune reminded me of this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEoSn7330i4

AndyM, 1711871924

"It's all just sound"

I expect there's a lot more to it than just that.

AndyM, 1711873224

"nice description of the ZZZ market days AndyM - that sums it up pretty well. Yes, some darkness and danger in them back then, but that was also part of the excitement and adventure. On the 'horse charge' one, I see a zzz history researcher is doing some investigating into it, wanting first-hand accounts of peoples' experiences. I saw a link in one of their weekly email newsletters I get. Had thought about giving some feedback, but my experience was also very blurred by the acid... and bongs and cheap VBs. Just know it was total chaos and I felt lucky not to have been run over by a panicked horse. I do recall throwing a can at the cop on the horse and scoring a direct hit though, so felt I got some payback for the average punter, before fleeing"

You should give some feedback Greenjam, they were very interesting times and Zed was right in the thick of it.
I suppose every city has its lo-fi public radio station but when you put it in the context of Bjelke-Peterson's Queensland, Zed was something else again.
Truly subversive and with some real effect.
As for the Musgrave Park market day, I wasn't too worried about the fires, it was pretty harmless.
But I wasn't too keen to wear a truncheon around the back of the head so when the cops showed up I sat up on the embankment up near Russel St and watched the show.

You should give some feedback

Jelly Flater, 1711873400

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhr0XbGBOPg

indo-dreaming, 1711873545

Sound, it's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
Yeah, it's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound
It's all sound, yeah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5rmGMmgmUI

icandig, 1711883288

[quote=AndyM]"It's all just sound"
I expect there's a lot more to it than just that.[/quote]

Maybe so. Depends. A magpie warbling can be musical. I listened to a guy drumming garbage cans at Southbank this week. A duo soothed my hungover brain at a country fete a couple of weekends ago - one on acoustic / the other on a resonator. How is autotune any more an abomination than electrifying any other instrument? My point is that many sounds can be construed as music - whether you like it or not is relative and subjective.

For the record, I like You AM I.....

AndyM, 1711883997

I'm talking about cultural influence etc.
For example, people would have laughed themselves sick at autotune 30 years ago.
So what's changed?
Fashion, trends, advertising, convincing people what they like and what they want.
It certainly doesn't mean they don't like it, quite the contrary.
But to say that it's just "sound" misses a huge part of the equation.

Kook-Man2001, 1712029263

[quote=thermalben]Where do people find out about new music these days? Is there any other way, other than social media algorithms?

I really miss having a couple of street mag reviewers I trusted to point me in the right direction of worthy new releases. Or the guys at the local record store telling about some obscure band I needed to know about. Or the dingy pub who only ever booked the most interesting touring bands from interstate and overseas, so I was guaranteed to have a good night out.[/quote]

I spend a significant amount of time on the quest for new music. This includes tunes being released in the present day but also looking for gold that I may have overlooked in the past.

I tend to follow quite a few blogs/sites and podcasts that cover the genres I'm interested in. I always look for name drops, references, etc. and then follow up online. If it grabs me I will pursue it further, if not I will move on. I run iTunes but I don't just randomly stream stuff...it's always listening with intent.

indo-dreaming, 1712039188

What blogs and podcast, you follow for music?

Kook-Man2001, 1712095616

@indo - not wanting to sound dismissive but probably only relevant if you like music of the heavier kind (metal, punk/hc and the numerous sub genres contained within).

Having said that, I have found some great stuff on this blog: https://aftersabbath.blogspot.com/

"HARD ROCK, PROTO-METAL, PROTO-DOOM, STONER ROCK & HEAVY PROG/PSYCH OBSCURITIES OF THE '60S AND '70S."

The bloke who runs this blog does a great job of digging up obscurities from around the world. He has knocked together a couple of good Aussie compilations too:

https://aftersabbath.blogspot.com/2010/05/day-after-sabbath-21-uluru-rock.html
https://aftersabbath.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-day-after-sabbath-80-goodbye-jane.html

velocityjohnno, 1712134031

The 2%ers triumph at Bells. At the other end of the spectrum are the 10%ers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfhc0frCr6M

blackers, 1712136635

Oh yes, nice one

Supafreak, 1712157911

As I get older and reflect on this classic, I enjoy the simplicity of life and the era in which the best music was written https://youtu.be/1evcVFuqxA0?si=2O6iYUUaegAoM8YB. https://youtu.be/nU2DSrY9A6s?si=p_GV5Q8QWnBa-nLc

Supafreak, 1712164820

https://youtu.be/huqUgOawuvI?si=QY0VMo72pzQ0GD5z

udo, 1712221146

Longevity
:-)
https://youtu.be/5NcJvi5TYEk?si=hNvHEUB0Z9_wU_ep

velocityjohnno, 1712223817

Continuing the theme from before, exceptionally good use of a hovercraft in a music video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuLllNyfiHs

basesix, 1712224298

^ aww, mixed memories @vj, my best mate's favourite song, but he ignored me for a week because when FB played at the Synagogue in Adelaide, I got passed onto the stage after a dive, and banged into the mic stand while FB was singing and he stopped the song and went to the next one : (
my fave LA song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weYE_wi-Guc

blackers, 1712225425

Let's keep it Frank.

AlfredWallace, 1712225625

[quote=Supafreak]https://youtu.be/huqUgOawuvI?si=QY0VMo72pzQ0GD5z[/quote]

Supafreak. Hi mate. Some good songs there for sure, timeless.AW

thermalben, 1712225820

@basesix I reckon I was at that FB gig. Can’t remember a great deal, though the internet says Custard opened.. so much have been a great night! (what a great venue the Synagogue was too!).

basesix, 1712226298

^ incredible venue, kinda picked up where the tivoli left off, amazing when there were gigs at the madlove and synagogue on the same night and you knew people on the door(s)!
(the mate in question was a certain bass player from career girls ; )

basesix, 1712227686

reckon it was the beginning of summer and this tape was stuck in my car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll1GbPvH1UI

Kook-Man2001, 1712271868

Just over 10 years since this masterpiece was released. Still a firm favourite!

basesix, 1712312002

have a chill-out, and tell us about your wet lili gig @PopD! Where are you staying?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEZ09AezGFA
(a very good performance, live from built-in-robes studios)

Pop Down, 1712312818

Hello Base 6

Chilling in the QT in Bondi Beach .

Lili was Red Hot at Low 302 and is really thriving with her new band .

A mate ( the Greek one ) finally decided 2 come with me .

He is more a muso than Adam 12 , and was Blowin away by her .

Kept saying she is a Rock and Roll Chick .

Lili is on Insta and there are some clips of her .

At 19 , she also Does Operatic Diva , very well .

Her dad got the flick as drummer , but Tom is younger ( not quite Pierre's beat ) .

Live music is SO much fun and I was first on the dance floor , as usual .

basesix, 1712317005

ha, dance like there's no-one cringing, good on you, yr a long time not-dancing.
1st bath in 20years?? I trust you've showered in that time @PD ; )

Jelly Flater, 1712318440

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKY6TZEyrI

R00ney, 1712372852

Anyone going to see Codeine next week?
Not everyone's cuppa, that's for sure, but one of my faves.
Trying to pull strings to get over to Melbourne, fingers crossed.

https://youtu.be/87BKjN3oCRw?si=EbJDAbZoPkHlThUT
https://youtu.be/bkNm1BEgsjo?si=1VZV7X6XeiNX1KU_

udo, 1712377924

https://youtu.be/pPGdLRI95N4?si=GrFgcISAa-zYNYdT
https://youtu.be/uAgsn7la3jg?si=a_T6bBw1a2QCFwTp

indo-dreaming, 1712382083

[quote=Jelly Flater]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKY6TZEyrI[/quote]

Is it just me or this one of the most moving songs ever?

Every time i hear it, i get all these mixed feelings of nostalgia, sadness, but still a strong feeling of satisfaction and it's all totally mirrored by the way Hope sings it and just her whole presence and look.

Definitely a top 100 of all time song.

indo-dreaming, 1712384623

Best new song for 2024 and from an Aussie band, nothing new style wise but done perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0pIFs85lCo

blackers, 1712388245

Haha, that was fun. Definitely not ground breaking but they are good for a laugh. Nice to see the Ted Mulry mullet getting a re-run.

AlfredWallace, 1712391221

[quote=indo-dreaming][quote=Jelly Flater]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKY6TZEyrI[/quote]

Is it just me or this one of the most moving songs ever?

Every time i hear it, i get all these mixed feelings of nostalgia, sadness, but still a strong feeling of satisfaction and it's all totally mirrored by the way Hope sings it and just her whole presence and look.

Definitely a top 100 of all time song.[/quote]


IndoDreaming. Hope you’re well.

On this occasion I 100% totally agree with what you just wrote. It simply takes you away to other places and times. AW

basesix, 1712393632

^ not just you, indo, sums up the moving/mellow side of early 90s alt perfectly.

goofyfoot, 1712393804

[quote=AlfredWallace][quote=indo-dreaming][quote=Jelly Flater]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKY6TZEyrI[/quote]

Is it just me or this one of the most moving songs ever?

Every time i hear it, i get all these mixed feelings of nostalgia, sadness, but still a strong feeling of satisfaction and it's all totally mirrored by the way Hope sings it and just her whole presence and look.

Definitely a top 100 of all time song.[/quote]


IndoDreaming. Hope you’re well.

On this occasion I 100% totally agree with what you just wrote. It simply takes you away to other places and times. AW[/quote]

Have a read of the comments on that YouTube clip.
I’m laying on the couch trying to not start balling! Heavy stuff in there

basesix, 1712394199

[quote=R00ney]Anyone going to see Codeine next week?
Not everyone's cuppa, that's for sure, but one of my faves.
Trying to pull strings to get over to Melbourne, fingers crossed.

https://youtu.be/87BKjN3oCRw?si=EbJDAbZoPkHlThUT
https://youtu.be/bkNm1BEgsjo?si=1VZV7X6XeiNX1KU_[/quote]

haha! what the hell's going on? Similar legends 'June of 44' were brought over this time last year by pedestrian sound-nerds 'a Broken Sail'.. hazard to say, the Sailers have done it again, what an interesting model.. I guess we are the beneficiaries! good luck getting there R00.
(C&Anchor in Adelaide will be an incredible little place to see them on the 11th!)

seeds, 1712394856

Heavy but beautiful hey goofy. I’ll plus one that. Nice post Indo! Edit… the Mazzy clip

AlfredWallace, 1712395028

[quote=goofyfoot][quote=AlfredWallace][quote=indo-dreaming][quote=Jelly Flater]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKY6TZEyrI[/quote]

Is it just me or this one of the most moving songs ever?

Every time i hear it, i get all these mixed feelings of nostalgia, sadness, but still a strong feeling of satisfaction and it's all totally mirrored by the way Hope sings it and just her whole presence and look.

Definitely a top 100 of all time song.[/quote]


IndoDreaming. Hope you’re well.

On this occasion I 100% totally agree with what you just wrote. It simply takes you away to other places and times. AW[/quote]

Have a read of the comments on that YouTube clip.
I’m laying on the couch trying to not start balling! Heavy stuff in there[/quote]


Goofyfoot. Hi mate. Powerful for sure. Normal human reaction fella.

just spent the last twenty minutes reading their entire history, wow.

I’ve now played Fade Into You about 10 times, it’ll be rattling the grey matter when I finally hit the pillow. All the best.AW

Jelly Flater, 1712404666

;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kq9MBnX00hs

Jelly Flater, 1712406021

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o4m5jQy5A2U

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jUahBnEkIw8&pp=ygUXcm9vc3RlciBhbGljZSBpbiBjaGFpbnM%3D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fregObNcHC8&pp=ygUadGhlIG1hbiB3aG8gc29sZCB0aGUgd29ybGQ%3D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qpLQv5xL9Dc&pp=ygUMbGlrZSBhIHN0b25l

Jelly Flater, 1712406102

- and something for daylight savings adjustment ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MbvLadXPm2s

Jelly Flater, 1712443408

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4U4opbXoMss&pp=ygUbc21hc2hpbmcgcHVtcGtpbnMgYXZhbGFuY2hl

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2vHByVGhmcc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DrQRS40OKNE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p3NZn0mA_XI&pp=ygUSbWF6enkgc3RhciBicmlkZ2Ug

Robwilliams, 1712476793

https://youtu.be/hp_NTmxtZKk?si=IfK8oP8omymdzogx
https://youtu.be/wumQdUh6RI0?si=uT4GG_a72TWXrAKE
https://youtu.be/wQcbteQ8j_M?si=iTVzvGrQ1KUdN4z_
https://youtu.be/5StsPz3IpL0?si=fqws-wQHBT0z0UJl
https://youtu.be/eVPiBqW7uFs?si=PgMGd5cZKSG2OM4_

Jelly Flater, 1712477384

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Po2lDHD1I

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZduDvIBu3EU

basesix, 1712619311

Whaaaat???? The CRANKER to become OS developer student accommodation?????
https://www.indaily.com.au/news/adelaide/2024/04/08/city-council-urged-to-support-threatened-crown-anchor
(I think there's links at the bottom of the article)
yeh, there is: https://savethecranker.com.au/?blogcategory=Campaign+News

basesix, 1712635316

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGGA9v5vzI
the fine young cannibals cultural party band

Kook-Man2001, 1712715779

@basesix - good clip! Have seen some great Blood Sucking Freaks gigs over the years.

Robwilliams, 1712729914

https://youtu.be/ocLCLMZO6dc?si=iSr04S8EReCbmp2V
https://youtu.be/c7bpP_kmNuU?si=I1d64O9KTwvxV51I
https://youtu.be/WIsGiqUsPWc?si=QM9lAkbefecIrjdb
https://youtu.be/SNl13t9ZtmA?si=PItAtr6hux56hn7N
https://youtu.be/iVGcRNotCAE?si=iXecjIJjfH8IqmtO
https://youtu.be/xExo67OLrdY?si=goSzySmNzqtflNxn

basesix, 1712742024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNRKo0JHlOE

basesix, 1712818752

your reference is noteworthy @PD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ4jMSCBswY
mine is most certainly not : P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hOiHdA0v9Y

flollo, 1712826310

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5lHbCXu7Rj/?igsh=Nmc1eGwxNXZuNDc=

flollo, 1712828372

On that note…

https://youtu.be/Nco_kh8xJDs?si=_ZRpCpy4P4-3Ke5A

blackers, 1712830447

Almost the weekend.

Jelly Flater, 1712833223

;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PIOEDDcpUfE&pp=ygUJZ29hdCBib2F0

blackers, 1712908466

All this talk of goats, weird. There are better things down on the farm.

velocityjohnno, 1713159094

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgAP-7hoMR8

It's remarkable how many different uploads of goat noises there are.

Robwilliams, 1713180765

https://youtu.be/WbZq5idUJcI?si=au6tj_Z5HZ-5bGvC
https://youtu.be/Yj5svbnw720?si=6HjkRiqDCZIVZBkc
https://youtu.be/H0DW3SyraMI?si=bcqMSLYX295rAjNc
https://youtu.be/kGP8pO2r_V4?si=FkYPW76QRleXtyOc

Kook-Man2001, 1713306369

Some catchy riffs and tight pants outta Melbourne:

Sheepdog, 1713309333

Real metal

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/M2QQg3LonfI

basesix, 1713315397

ha, penn & teller in a run dmc clip, cheers kaipo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-O5IHVhWj0