, 1328046760
That wave he caught with 2 or 3 paddles was insane.
Absolute rocket drop......that took some confidence/skill/sack to spin and go that one.
, 1328048298
He caught it yesterday, it went in front of the XXL committee last night, and was nominated for Wave of the Year today.
Things move quick these days...
But yeah, incredible drop that two stroke takeoff. Just amazing.
, 1328057625
my mrs hates it when it only takes me 2 strokes...
, 1328094247
southy,how does that jaws wave[s] compare to the vicco 50 footer.interested to know how big you and freeride call the jaws session.....i think 30 plus but wish to see some still shots from the water..
, 1328130956
I've spent a bit of time in Hawaii in another life, and when you talk to the guy's that surf these outer reefs they refer to wave face measurements, you know the lame Californian way of measuring waves, but it actually makes more sense as it deletes the bullshit. I think some people get confused with what the buoy measurements are, like 17 feet at 20 seconds is epic on the north shore, your looking at big outer reef waves. I never met anyone who lived there calling it by the back of the wave.
udo, 1383886748
jeff Rowley- the bombie ,vimeo
charging some bombs, good surfing .
goofyfoot, 1383895773
Udo I just watched the Jeff Rowley footage on stabmag.com
He is charging! That was a really great clip..
yorkessurfer, 1383899050
video:[http://vimeo.com/m/78801298]
yorkessurfer, 1383900341
Tried to post that clip. That board he is riding is huge!!! Looks so smooth dropping I into those big peaks though. Dunno if the link worked but here it is again.
http://vimeo.com/m/78801298
sidthefish, 1383920049
11 out of 10.
I fail to see how that has infringed on anybody or their space.
Anyone who wants to be a grizzle guts over that should just shut the fuck up, or get out there, stake their claim and take a few of those bombs themselves. Yeah, No Towing, cos there is already a paddler in the water, ay.
udo, 1383940037
@ yorkie, the board was a 11ft channel islands mgb , have no other dimensions, quad or thruster ? im guessing quad
stunet, 1383943393
MGB? Do you mean MG or is the MGB the latest Merrick Gun?
Just wahcked the vid onto the homepage too. Thanks for the heads up, Udo.
stunet, 1383944353
*Whacked. I'm not trying to sound like Zsa Zsa Gabor.
yorkessurfer, 1383944559
Four fin setup's seem to be the go for those big guns. Here's a pic of the fin setup on the 9'6" I was ogling at at Patagonia.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QyRwyld.jpg[/IMG]
udo, 1383947620
was curious on the rhinos dimensions, emailed jeff for some info........all I got was its a 11 ft MGB channel islands....maybe he will give out more info to you stu ?
I'll take a guess on the dim, 11' x 21 x 3 - 3 1/2 quad set up ?
fitzroy-21, 1383950227
Who was the shaper of that beast YS? Pretty tidy looking and love the colour.
Bloody impressive vid of Rowley. Wonder if there was anyone else out there. I did see a ski way off in the background of one shot, but he otherwise looked like on his lonesome. And that 2 stroke wave he got at Jaws was insane.
I agree with Sid, there is one person on here that hangs shit on him but I've never seen anything of him in the same in the same calibre.
I don't know FA about Rowley but the footage I've seen of his exploits speaks volumes.
yorkessurfer, 1383953000
That's a Gerry Lopez fitzroy. He came out last year doing a book tour or something and shaped a few boards up. I ended up buying a 7'6". Patagonia can order copies of all his shapes as they have been digitised and get glassed and finished up in NSW somewhere I believe. They really are some of the most beautiful looking boards I've ever seen, perfect finish, polished etc.
udo, 1383960507
strapper, one of rowleys sponsers have a movie of him surfing a 6'8 at bells , pretty good surfer in the smaller stuff to.
caml, 1383964460
Boards that are 11"0 maybe 4" thick . Ten "0 maybe 3 3/4 . Sorry bout the maybees . Im always dealing with ppl who underestimate the thickness . I like to say 4"0 when some one guesses 3"0 . & @ys I saw those lopez boards .first thing I said was too light . After the allan byrne ten "0 broke first surf . My ab was glassed with 6&4 bottom , 6&4 deck. Nothing worse than having to swim a few kms in on the biggest day of yr. Last gun I bought was 3 x6 oz each side using epoxy resin.
uplift, 1383967124
'I saw those lopez boards .first thing I said was too light . After the allan byrne ten "0 broke first surf .'
That doesn't matter, as long as they look beautiful.... and have been 'scientifically' digitised.
caml, 1383969520
Uplift wat do u mean , digitised? Im trying to inform ppl not to be fooled by nice looking guns glassed with tissues.
southey, 1383971139
Agree caml .
With exception of my short boards , everything starting @ 6'8 is atleast . 6 ' x 6' ounce on the deck minimum . although alot of that has to do with how heavy footed i tend to be , the other thing is to get em' to " cross weave " each layer of matting/sheets . do you notice the epoxy as opposed to polyester . rigidity in riding , feel and noise ?
brutus, 1383971251
as far as big wave guns go heres a few dimensions fo you all..
when I arrived in Hawaii last year ,Shane dorian had just ridden a lota waves at Jaws on a JC 10 6 x 21 x 3 7/8 Quad...which had 5 layers of 6 OZ T+B...26 lb bd..
when I left JC had just built him an 11 2 x 22 x 4 14 ..quad.......not bad for a 72 kg guy....
Depending on the waves you surf....weight and catching the wave are supa important......
I made a board for Mark Mathews...1" stringer,5 layers T+B...about 25 lb......Fin snapped off during the bottom turn....clean in 2.....ahhhhh.....now bds are thicker wider and heavier again...
uplift, 1383972110
Digitised? Like yorky said, they digitize all the measurements, get them copied, and flog them. Like they did with the Rawson's years ago. Except like anyone who's tried to have a board copied, they end up nothing like the original. So there were heaps of dud 'Rawson's for sale. One even got dragged out of a shed and sold last week.
You'll never stop them getting fooled, its too easy. Point in case, I remember a morning on the cliff in Elliston where a legend shaper rolled up in the carpark, with a half a dozen transparent potato chips on the roof (I won't mention his name, as he's a good guy). Because of all the fanfare of his arrival the town's grommies and assorted area hotties were all there eagerly awaiting the unveiling of the legendary quiver, and trying to order them. At the same time, your dunga was laying in the shrubbery, you were unknown by them all then, and it became a joke fest, especially when they saw your custom dong bonnet. I was heading by with my nugget, and he couldn't resist a bit of cocky bantering shit. So I figured fuck you ya chubby little shit, waited for the unveiling, and lo and behold, 3 were already busted in 2, just from the drive over on the roof. Hilarious shit, like handing me a couple of sawn off shotguns. It got much funnier in the water though, when he couldn't catch a wave, despite emu and his camera, and he was finally goaded into a bomb, another one snapped. They all snapped that day. There's probably still bits of foam and tissue blowing around the bay.
And he drove home with heaps of orders.
brutus, 1383974556
most good shapers are using shaping programs that have digitized the design,so that a shapers favourite measurements can be cut by the CNC machine....
one of the problems is that all machines cut a bit different so there is always a margin for error or improvement....
I like to think that shaping a big gun Pre-shape allows a shaper to concentrate on the final shaping of the board...as its all in the fine tuning....and most designer /shapers already know what their designs should be........so the last touch of the shaper is all important.....as long as its the original shaper finishing...
caml, 1383975647
Ok but my board was an allan byrne shape .
uplift, 1383975652
And do they digitize the blowing of the blanks too? Every blank turns out different, and that's the main reason you'll never copy a board at present. Or maybe they've perfected bubble size. A mate once went through half a dozen Slaven's trying to copy a magic keeper, that to Slaven's credit looked identical to the eye, and ruler/calipers, to figure that out. Then years later he thought the 'Anacarpas' would have solved that. But, there's a heap of them laying around his shed too.
Shapings funny, either all those little intricasies, 'errors' mean something, or they don't really matter. Any one can do it. What's it gonna be. Sometimes its those 'errors' that make a magic board.
The 'pros' even hold on to those keepers, and try to preserve them as long as possible, knowing full well that they can't be copied.
yorkessurfer, 1383975903
Yeah those 10ft boards would have huge forces being placed on them in that sized surf! The length would compound the pressure so you would want them thick and heavy.
I think my 7'6"x19 1/2 x 2 3/4 was glassed about right, it's definitely not a wafer. The waves down on my coast max out at around 8 to 10ft so it's all I need.
But hats off to the guys like Rowley, RCJ, Camel, and Uplift. They are in a league of their own and deserve their legend status.
uplift, 1383976439
Cheepers, aww shucks, thanks yorksey, see honesty is the best policy, the transparent Spiritual way. I'm now starting to realise that you are really quite clever, and a top bloke to boot.
caml, 1383976783
Ys theres a few more than just us guys, in fact a few hundres in that league. Anybody know if my ab 10"0 can be copied? Whats happning with byrning spears
yorkessurfer, 1383978126
Yeah I know there's quite a few Camel but all you guys are within 1000km of where I live so I didn't want to list every big wave surfer on the planet. I hear stories about what you guys get up to from mutual friends that surf with you sometimes and I think it's great what you and the others guys are doing in the biggest waves that the Southern Ocean can dish out!
Someone in another thread on here said that the guy that worked with AB is doing CNC copies of his shapes? I wonder if that 10' was digitised?
crustt, 1383982610
I think uplift is pretty spot on, to copy a board and get it exactly the same you would have to know exactly what blank was used in the original, my mate who shapes my boards explained one day that when some of the pros came over to get board off him in Hawaii and were pretty insistent about the dimensions ended up struggling as clark foam had less floatation.
Why would you want a copy of your last one when there s another special one around the next corner anyway,
gannet, 1383988449
Sorry to change the subject, but what's the deal with these 'paddle vests'?
There were plenty of references to guys wearing them at big Cloudbreak last year and I'm pretty sure Jeff wears one at 'The Bomby'.
Are we talking your standard jetski PFD or what?
Maybe I'll get one and have a crack
Well.........maybe....
caml, 1383990595
Patagonia paddle vest are worthy.
sidthefish, 1384049550
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYFIYYjeNS0
BRUTUS SUCKING SOME HYPOCRITICAL COCK.
uplift, 1384050982
Gidday, yeh, filming and exposure is nothing new down there. It was heavily featured in the old Rip Curl vids, along with other waves in the area, to promote their wetties and 'crew'. in Roar/Gash's heyday there were plenty of articles, information and photos of it and about it in the magazines, mainly introducing and publicising the guys that surfed it and the boards they were riding and shaping.
sidthefish, 1384052815
The biggest drama that happened at down there was when Margo & Rasta went thru with a film crew, and it was Brutus who sent them down there.
stunet, 1384053019
Fucken hell fellas, this ain't a new battle front. Drop your arms and chill.
Go smoke a spliff, Sid.
sidthefish, 1384053606
Got run out of the Bay, ha thats hilarious. Who by Pineapple Head ? as the real locals call him.
I never done anybody wrong in any way in my few years down there, I worked hard, usually 2 jobs.
Left of my own accord because the house I owned went up 300% in four years, so by selling up I crystalize the capital gain on the investment.
Now I work in the Snowy Mountains and hang on the NSW South Coast, and again do nothing wrong by anybody.
sidthefish, 1384053974
Stu, you knew Brutus would get on the FigJam rolls bus when you posted that bombie stuff.
Just so happens Shaun has outed Brutus doing exactly the same on yootoob, its common knowledge he does exactly the same, I know it too well cos I know the cameramen he used/s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYFIYYjeNS0
uplift, 1384054527
However, and I don't want to say much about this at all, and, in fact I'm still reeling in shock from what we've just learned, its not as bad as what happened to another secret spot, DY Point. A place where one man, hell bent on self gratification, glory, riches and fame, literally stuck his arse in the face... of the locals, who for years had kept the place a secret. Now its over run with glory hunters, photo 'sluts' at best. If that could happen to a place that takes ten times as long to drive to from the nearest city centre as the unknown, previously unpublicised secret 'bombie', and unlike the previously unknown, unpublicised secret 'bombie', a place where taking one wrong turn off could mean driving aimlessly lost for hours on end, then God help the secret 'bombie'. Next, they'll put in a bitumin road there, and make it so that anyone driving past can see it.
As for blindboy, alias the DIY destroyer, he's finally been exposed, having craftily flown under the radar for years. I hope his 2 minutes of fame were worth it. Now he has to live out the rest of his days, spurned by wily industry 'insiders', and hard nut' locals' alike, his 'credibility' in tatters.
Good on ya udeso!
blindboy, 1384059380
Yeh I'm screwed at DY but with a quick 200 km drive down a desert track and a 5km hike over the dunes there is still the untouched gem of Manly......
shaun, 1384060682
[quote=uplift]However, and I don't want to say much about this at all, and, in fact I'm still reeling in shock from what we've just learned, its not as bad as what happened to another secret spot, DY Point. A place where one man, hell bent on self gratification, glory, riches and fame, literally stuck his arse in the face... of the locals, who for years had kept the place a secret. Now its over run with glory hunters, photo 'sluts' at best. If that could happen to a place that takes ten times as long to drive to from the nearest city centre as the unknown, previously unpublicised secret 'bombie', and unlike the previously unknown, unpublicised secret 'bombie', a place where taking one wrong turn off could mean driving aimlessly lost for hours on end, then God help the secret 'bombie'. Next, they'll put in a bitumin road there, and make it so that anyone driving past can see it.
As for blindboy, alias the DIY destroyer, he's finally been exposed, having craftily flown under the radar for years. I hope his 2 minutes of fame were worth it. Now he has to live out the rest of his days, spurned by wily industry 'insiders', and hard nut' locals' alike, his 'credibility' in tatters.
Good on ya udeso![/quote]
HaHa, this is the uplift version of a one liner.
brutus, 1384075356
sid your sexual references to myself seem to harbor a? ..are you making a pass at me??
and another delusion,I didn't send Margo and Rasta down there.......ahh.....gainsy took em......I'm a bit worried about all the venom from you Sid.......calm down old fella,you'll bow a gasket...!!
redneck, 1384081469
FIGJAM & his bum licking buddies have turned onto the path of hardship. What options have you left us?!
sidthefish, 1384111736
You let em walk straight into a Pinaapple Head ambush, you knew where they were heading and should have given them the heads up, cos it was only ever gunna go pear shaped and it did. I passed 'em on the GOR that morning and pissed myself laughin, cos I knew Pineapple Head would go off his trolley and he did. Whatever, Margo and Rasta didn't derserve to be treated like that, nobody does.
Anyhow Brutus, your little yootoob clip that Shaun dug up has had another 400 views over the weekend, that would be at least 300 odd people who now know you're full of shit. Taking a few people for a ride I'd reckon.
And don't bother trying to get me number off old mate, cos he and anyone else who has got me number knows me well enough to know I'd only tell ya to go fuck yerself anyhow. Besides, he's had nothing to do with you for a good few years now, and we all know why don't we? that's why your calls get put on ignore and your texts get deleted. Just another person you trashed.
brutus, 1384119862
WTF are you dribbling on about Sid....seems like ya stalkin me....with stories you have made up to support your angry twisted views.
Nah never sent Rasta/Margo,twas Gainsy......and thanx for the reference to the clip......looks like a few of the people who watched it have ordered bds.....as its not the place you think,DUH!
as for your ol mate and mine ..he still surfs and tows...uses my bds,ah....I wouldn't call ya Mo,why???
So you could watch me fuck myself....you silly old pervert,or is it more sinister ......you seem to have a sexual fixation with older men,............OK all you young surfers ...beware the SID!!!
stunet, 1384122824
The Grand Muftis of Swellnet have hereby issued a Fatwah: anymore contentious posts pertaining to Jeff Rowley, Down South, photo exploitation or similar will be deleted. The voices of a few are drowning out the voices of the many.
stunet, 1384123562
As mentioned above, every offending comment will be deleted...
dave_anning, 1384128733
Got zero interest in the rest of the chat, but it was good to see some smooth surfing and a film clip with some decent music.
I haven't got the skills or balls to be riding those waves in The Bombie vid, but watching it I thought the board looked a bit average?
Like maybe it was a bit light and about half a foot too long.
Craig, 1384129946
Yeah I agree Dave, sure that length and volume is great for getting into the wave, but once he was bottom turning it looked like it was bouncing around quite a lot and not very functional.
southey, 1384157171
craig ,
thats just the reality of the wave . exposed .
he did alright considering .
Sid , you clearly don't know your waves . atleast one of the less than split second vid's barely shows any relevance to anywhere . but one is definietly not where you say . ie Brute in that case is telling the truth .
as for PK , the only vids' i know that have reached a select audience were cold & 2cold .
men in black rubber was t-ray and the only copy i got is unplayable on any laptop or media player I've tried. although it did get played reasonably often in their shop .
Shaun , we agree usually . but not on this . no reason justify's breaking your own moral code . ( well one you've insinuated before ) . ie in the past you've discouraged anything that encourages a thread to live longer than it should .
Stu , why change your view now . are you guys now paying for data storage . you should of realised posting the images would have turned into a shit fight .
PS . please remove an area ( that would of pumped last week ) from your global forecasts .. as already pleaded .
end rant .
shaun, 1384166965
Well southy I had to be to hypocrite to point out others hypocrisy's, and as you know i do like to get my point across, if I could just learn to do it with out the cricket bat .................
brutus, 1384204399
hey shaun..it Maurice,not Morris......still got the vinyl....
morris, 1384208599
HaHa.....It's not always all about you Maurice....:-))
brutus, 1384218475
ok Morris,just correcting a spelling mistake.,and my wife still wonders how they got the song so right......but coming from you fair enough.....big M
freeride76, 1384219550
Pretty entertaining stink gents.
But a headsup from the real world. No-one gives a fuck about down south except you blokes.
udo, 1384220091
the inertia are calling jeffs session at the Victorian bombie ' australian mavericks'
top-to-bottom-bells, 1384220822
I guess that makes Jeff Rowley our own Jeff Clark.
shaun, 1384220902
[quote=freeride76]Pretty entertaining stink gents.
But a headsup from the real world. No-one gives a fuck about down south except you blokes.[/quote]
But we're not in the real world are we. :-)
freeride76, 1384221158
haha, true story.
sounds like a few hot heads getting pretty heated up though.........that can easily translate to action when someone walks into the cross hairs.
redneck, 1384227350
Jeff Clark went about his business quietly for years. No correlation there.
top-to-bottom-bells, 1384227877
No he didn't. Have you seen Riding Giants? Clark tried for years to get people to surf there. In the end he brought in people he didn't even know like Richard Schmidt and Vince Collier from Santa Cruz. Then he cashed in heavily with a Mavericks cafe and Jeff Clark Surfboards (born at Mavericks) and a Mavericks contest (with him as director). He 'went about his business' all right.
Rowley is a mute in comparison.
shaun, 1384229336
Yeah I think ttbb is right, I had heard that Clark was not the only one surfing it and nor was he the first, but as usual the first one to turn up with a photographer goes down in surfing history as a pioneer.
I don't even think mavericks and whatever we're calling it this time are comparable, if you are it's a mushburger compared to mavricks, having said that would not like to be caught in side at either.
ben-colyer, 1384230609
I'm fu##ed if I know why a handful of you carry on like spoiled brats about that neck of the woods. You'd think no one has ever been there and unless you live there you can keep on driving!
It's a section of coast that's been know about for bloody years. It's no friggin secret. I'd perhaps understand a bit of heated opinion if Jeff wanted to run a contest, but that's not the case here.
redneck, 1384230780
I stand corrected then.
shaun, 1384234704
Ben we were talking a about jc and mavericks.
Not he who l cannot mention or where I can't say.
Chill dude.
It must be true red you heard it on the internet, reliable source too.
southey, 1384238307
Udo , the inertia also actually have a link to his Sept 2011 debacle as " 500ft Australian record " .
then as per that persons claims 50ft . more like 5 metres .
yocal, 1384240852
Anyone got a link to the footage of the two stroke at Jaws?
The footage of that Bombie is awesome how clean is it for the size
zenagain, 1384262981
Dunno about the two stroke wave yocal, but here's the one where he only takes about 4 strokes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yb4PNswO9c
shaun, 1384283247
you could call that 2 strokes, 2 with each arm, it's all in the interpretation isn't it, that's why surfing will never be as main stream as some people want.
on one of the morning shows ( could have been carl) when they showed carlos burl at Portugal catching the biggest wave ever he said that he beat garret macs wave from the year before by a half a meter. HaHa what hope has surfing got in the mainstream.
morris, 1384289881
here it is here, www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFVQZE_8dpM
I usually take about 10 myself
zenagain, 1384294824
Is that five each arm morris, or ten?
morris, 1384295845
5 from each of the twin sisters who live next door
zenagain, 1384297091
You'd think that after being born in 1939, one of them would have married 'eh?
God bless them;)
redneck, 1384298752
Morris that you tube link is his warm down routine after a surf
Pigdog2, 1384300403
"Yeah I agree Dave, sure that length and volume is great for getting into the wave, but once he was bottom turning it looked like it was bouncing around quite a lot and not very functional."
Absolutely - footage clearly shows the board was not right for surfing the wave....slo mo
stunet, 1384306070
Although I couldn't say for sure, I assume Jeff's board wasn't made for Australia but for the upcoming Hawaiian winter. This session was most likely a test run - a warm up of sorts.
The real board evaluation would best be done after a legitimate Jaws session.
fraser-gordon, 1384313399
Just watched the Jaws wave with all the land based nonsense about the bloke where it really counts"In the water" you can't argue the fact that was pretty impressive.
uplift, 1384323196
'Although I couldn't say for sure, I assume Jeff's board wasn't made for Australia but for the upcoming Hawaiian winter. This session was most likely a test run - a warm up of sorts.'
I may be unnecessarily complicating things here, but why not just ask him?
morris, 1384329106
[quote=redneck]Morris that you tube link is his warm down routine after a surf[/quote]
Actually it's a great warm up if the waves are pumping, a bit of relief to calm one down , if it's perfect and barreling you need to calm and collected
uplift, 1384337066
Or Mr. Keating.
mikehunt207, 1384430111
For all the wank over the much hyped wave at Jaws there were 20 guys who got much bigger longer waves than he who can,t be named, what is all the fuss about? enough blowing smoke up his arse his ego doesn,t need it and nor does anybody else.
superflyte, 1385376604
Hey fellas. I kinda got hooked on this thread on page 1, so thought I might sign up and add my 2c.
I have a shop FULL of Pat Rawson's finest, including a fist full of proper big wage guns over 9' length. There was some discussion over dimensions, so I thought I'd add some of the typical sizes Pat's shaping for these boards...
The narrowest 9'6 gun I have is 20-1/8" wide, and 3-3/16" thick. This goes up to 21-1/4" x 3-1/4". Upwards to 10'2, thickness is 20-3/4" x 3-1/4".
My personal 10'2 gun is 20" wide and 3-1/4" thick.
On another topic listed here, personally, I run all my guns as quads. The shop boards are all set up as 3+2 though.
(Hey Camel, I'll give you a buzz soon)
I'm new on this forum, but will have a crack at uploading a couple of pics of a cool resin tint 10'2 from stock...
[img]http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k522/superflyte/P1080683.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k522/superflyte/P1080685.jpg[/img]
shaun, 1385408106
Here's my 2 cents worth, with a shop full of boards in the ten foot range in Queensland, I reckon you'll go broke, nice piece of spam.
So this is what big wave surfing has come too, ten foot computer shaped pop outs.
You may have thought it was dangerous surfing with jet skis buzzing around, just wait until you have a few wallies on their big kahuna models fluffing around on a big day with panic in their eyes.
(Camel, sorry I haven't called you, but i don't have your number and don't know you. I'm just mentioning your name on this thread to give myself some credibility)
superflyte, 1385414266
Hi Shaun. Firstly, let me just say thanks for your concern over my financial position.
Spam? No... Joining a conversation to discuss board dimensions, and maybe share my thoughts and opinions on where big wave board design is headed? Yep, well that's what I thought anyway.
Just a note on computerized pop-outs and ghost shapers. Unlike 98% of boards from 'overseas shapers or companies', all our boards are shaped (with an actual planer, would you believe! - and by the actual shaper named on the logo) and glassed where stated. In this case, on the North Shore. And that's enough on that, I don't want to be accused of spamming a thread or anything :)
Maybe 'natural selection' will sort out the wallies out there.
As for Camel, we've been talking for a while now about doing some boards. Just thought I'd show some forum etiquette (and common courtesy) and say hello.
Cheers, Troy.
udo, 1385415020
superflyte, thanks for posting the big board dimensions could you post some rocker pics
where are you and your shop located ?
EDIT; currumbin, love that famous tommy c snap pic at pipe
stunet, 1385415169
@Shaun and Superflyte,
It can be a fuzzy line deciding what is and what isn't spam. I figure that as long as info is in context then it ain't spam, and that would apply to dims and fin configs in a thread about big wave boards.
morris, 1385430579
Stu, I'm sure Shaun was just taking the piss out of superfly, so don't feel to badly mate, though you could have just posted the dims and photos and not mentioned that you sell them.
(hey Kelly I'll give you a buzz soon)
I don't think your doing camel any favours by mentioning him in association with your boards as you are not the only one.:-)
stunet, 1385431260
Morris, just setting the record straight so everyone knows where they stand.
(Hey Barack I'll give you a buzz soon)
caml, 1385445232
hold the lines ! rawson surfboards are giving away 5 brand new guns and a holiday surfing at the secret surfbreak outside critterbeasts ! also joining you will be tom carroll who will help u test the new boards at this incredible wave in the middle of the pacific ocean and then mark visser will jump out of a plane to tow in also . then jeff rowley will paddle out alone to ride with you. first five people to call me win the prize ! if the lines are busy thats just cos im having a quik chat with president susilo bambang,wont be long...
freeride76, 1385446026
Didn't Bambang bounce your arse right out of indonesia?
caml, 1385460313
who cares . that was an adventure the last time i was in indo, but no not president bambang who helped me get to australia after a long stint in java,lombok,sumbawa . think it was about 2004 or 05 , forget. actually got sick of indo and missed australia so i returned. yeah there is rumours of course about wat happened and people claim to know the story .anyway , tommy carroll , mark visser and jeff rowley are inspirational guys ,im not disrespecting them by talking about them on this forum. if you have a look at the rawson surfboards website there is some good looking surfboards and information . even if a shaper uses hi tech tools to shape theres nothing wrong with that
superflyte, 1385507841
Hey Udo, here you go. I
Maybe these are the 5 new guns we're giving away, because we can't sell these - remember, I live in Queensland. lol Oh yeah, and that surf trip. Actually it's 2x economy tickets plus bus transfers to Trigg Beach, Perth, WA. Summer travel only - haha. Fill ya boots.
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Cheers boys.
freeride76, 1385512207
Nice.
What's the fin config?
And serious question. They obviously aren't going to get used in QLD where blokes pull out the jetski every time it's over three foot at Kirra.
So, who is going to buy them?
wellymon, 1385526539
I mite when I travel down into the forbidden locals only lands of South WA
I will be surfing the Bombie with my paddle in computer made Rawson.
Don't under estimate the WellHellman?
Wheres ya shop Superflyte,
Gis a look at those bad babies.
Hell much..?
Over and out.
HellyWelly
Hellfuck
Hellyou
Helluppity
Hellish
reecen, 1385543925
Wrong way around I think Yorkes, if you could tell the difference.
yorkessurfer, 1385544180
Nah your right reecen that's why I was asking someone who would know. Thanks for setting me straight. That's what forums are all about right?
yorkessurfer, 1385547179
Hey caml you were saying on another thread about thickness/lightness of 9'6"-10'ft boards & breakability. At 3 1/4" inches do you think the Rawsons could take the punishment of the waves you like to surf? You were talking closer to 4" inches? Or are these(Rawsons) warm water guns so don't need the buoyancy of guns for Southern Ocean cold water?
southey, 1385549677
i think you'll find that the biggest / most important question that should be asked is how are they glassed ??? 3x 6 oz or 3x 4 oz top or bottom .....???
yorkessurfer, 1385550758
For sure Southy but an extra 3/4" thickness in the stringer would have to help strengthen a board? I never thought those guns would be 4 inches thick until caml wrote that. So it's interesting to find out what dimension/glass those big wave boards are?
southey, 1385551296
they don't look much thicker than 3 1/4 . but could be wrong .
Stringers obviously help , especially at an inch wide . But as a Rik jackovich found out in the late nineties when he tried aluminium stringers . The glass is really where the strength is , cross matting , carbon fibre and epoxy like caml mentioned is where its at .
Also if you have a close look at the latest vid of jaws with Dorian and his boards you'll see that the decks are extremely rounded meaning they still have reasonably ( well for a 4 inch board anyway ) defined rails . And when you fine them down like that the stringer becomes less important . Because when the wave hits it the weakest link /part the rail will buckle anyway ..... i've seen boards twist and crease either side of the stringer and the stringer barely has a crack in it ...
But i've also seen tuflite's complete with balsa rails get snapped like twigs . All depends on the depth of water the waves are coming out of etc etc .....
Glass is ultimate definer of strength .
superflyte, 1385552385
Hey Freeride - fin configs are all 3+2. I only ride them as quads, but others prefer what they're used to, so best of both worlds, I guess. I'm actually WA born and bred - only being on the East Coast for the last 2 years. A lot of interest in the bigger sizes has been from south-west WA, Vicco, and SA. Freight couriers make it so easy these days to move these things around. Otherwise, the 6'6 to 7'6 range seem to be really popular for the traveling (Indo / Pacific Islands) guys, and there are a heap of the hard core travel crew right here in Qld. But for sure, the 9' + guys are where you'd expect.
Hi Well - shop's on the southern end of the Goldy, but not spruiking, so no addresses given ;)
Hey Southey - The boards are glassed 3x6oz, with the decks lapped over for even more strength. The stringers are 3/8" or 1/2" cedar, depending on a couple of things. Optimizing weight to generate the momentum, but limiting it so you don't feel like the captain of the Emma Maersk! With thickness and overall buoyancy, you've gotta look at where the volume is distributed throughout the entire board. Everyone talks about volume through the chest area, but you need to compare thicknesses along the entire profile of the boards also. Flex is another consideration. Imagine adding 3/4" thickness to your regular short board. Flex, and therefore drive, are drastically altered.
One last point is foam density. Knowing 'where a board is' in any given blank is important. Pat and Eric Arakawa developed a series of blanks for US Blanks specifically for these boards, and know that the density of the foam varies throughout the core. So getting the deck closest to the 'harder' foam for example, will make a stronger board than someone shaping from a non-specific blank, trying to achieve a similar rocker profile.
udo, 1385589915
not only big wave boards but a good range of sizes from 5'8 up......rawson.com.au
superflyte, 1385602463
(rawsonsurfboards.com.au) - cheers!
caml, 1385618367
ok, the rawson stock boards are thinner than what i like personally . but they are stock boards made like that because they are for the average big wave hunter to buy off the rack . im sure you can order your own 3.5-4.0 thick specialty . i talked to troy from rawson aust , he said that rawson shapes have the foam distributed much more towards the rails ,so a flat deck .it makes sense to me they maybe just a different style than the thick stringer with thin rail type of shape. also as kirk birke explains ,it is the rocker that makes paddle speed not the thickness. i can tell a story of a rawson shape i had, its of ex tom carroll waimea board from about 1987 era (i could be wrong) it had the big tommy stripe and bright colours from tommys world title era . nine foot long with a single fin . it did have a flat deck and quite hard edge rails all the way to the nose . and it was a goer ! got it second hand in hawaii ,used it at sunset and it was my best board there, much to owl chapmans approval . kenny bradshaw let me try a bunch of his thrusters he shaped but none of them came close .i took the board back from haw to g-land where it lived with me for a few years . but because it had a pintail and big waimea style fin ,i chopped the tail off and made a swallow ,put a ten inch box in and a much sleeker fin . it was 8'8 then . on may 1st 1997 an incredible swell arrived in g-land,from 1ft flat ocean to the next day 12ft . this swell was silent too for some reason only known to g-land gods . rubbing my eyes in disbelief in the foggy morning i could see a perfect 12 ft swell but without noise ?? anyway that day launching pad became 12-14ft into speed reef 6-8ft with a slowly moving hi tide of 1.7 at 4pm . (quite shallow ) that arvo i rode the best barrells of my life ,(at the time) but all in a row. four, one after the other . the last one the single fin rawson sliding side ways then re gripping and coming out . yeah great board it was my favorite gun around that time 97'-01 . on the subject of stringers and flex, i believe it is the resin and cloth that gives strength to a board. also fancy techniques like southey says, stretching the cloth at 45 deg nose to tail .great.. epoxy resin great, i dont have much faith in stringers so i ask for small stringers eg half inch for my biggest guns , and even much smaller in little boards. i dont care if theres no stringer really. but always keen to pay for best glass job possible . im interested in flex for my boards ,so epoxy resin with normal blanks is my ultimate but so far i havent had many of them but my recent webster 10'10 has that. talking to gary linden in sept he reckons his balsa guns are great becos they dont flex and they wont lose speed . thats different theories there. im sure they all work just depends what u prefer. my epoxy gun doesnt feel much flex ,i dont notice it. but it has a half in stringer, just one bit of wood. three six oz each side . it doesnt ding easily and thats good . reading about how heavy the top guys are going for their jaws and cortes boards is much heavier than ive used. i like my guns a bit lighter than them . but i would be interested to try wat it feels like.
shaun, 1385619327
[quote=superflyte](rawsonsurfboards.com.au) - cheers![/quote]
HaHa love the way you don't spruik. No one cares so why deny it, just calling a spade a spade.
udo, 1385620217
my fault had I put the correct web address.......troy wouldn't have to . spruik .
wellymon, 1385627733
Shaun me ol T--ll mate.
I went down and checked out Superflytes boards today, could I find the place, fuck me took an hour, he is not a surf shop, but an Engineer who works on race cars etc. With a little room out the back the size of a bedroom, with about 30 Rawson brds ranging from 7'0' to 10'2' all guns, impressive craftsmanship from Mr Rawson himself, all handshaped in Hawaii and shipped over here at Superflytes expense, he caters for big gun type boards, where no other shop does, which obviously is in his realm.
He paddles big waves himself and is only giving Rawson a helping hand here in OZ, probably from personally knowing him from Hawaii, I had a good look around his little immodest room, Wow would love to buy one soon, not that I would come and surf the Bombie (piss take) but Superflyte has.
Goes to show an engineer with a little room full of premium guns, shaped by the "God Father of Guns" who loves paddling into big waves. He's off to Hawaii this week to try and catch some big paddle in waves.
Good luck I say.
Beautiful looking boards for sure.
:)
superflyte, 1385632170
Hey Camel, I didn't realize that Rawson was a single. If only you knew the serial number on it, I could dig up the old hard-copy sheet from the archives and tell you exactly how it went together. I'll have to let you have a crack on my own 10'2 to see if you pick the difference. It's pretty narrow for a 10'2 though, at an even 20" wide (3-1/4" thick).
I'm running some trials at the moment through my composites business with different types of resins, cloths, reinforcements, and lamination schedules. Mostly related to high end composite race car chassis, but the technology will translate directly to surfboards (particularly the big wave boards), which will be really interesting for all of us I think, in the future.
Hi Wellymon - excellent that you found the place. Great to chat today too. Always stoked to talk to guys that appreciate these things. Here's to a decent series of swells to keep us all busy over the summer up here on the Goldy. And for sure, it looks like Hawaii will throw up some big swells, just as I arrive. Should be fun!
shaun, 1385636129
Welly, I'm glad you found something that was real on the internet, and a room full of rawsons would be impressive. But please welly be very careful, remember you only know this guy from surfing the net and he has lured you to what appears to be a bedroom(your words) tucked down the back of a factory, full of all your favourite candy, you were conscience at all times? No blackouts, lost hours? To be on the safe side , I suggest if you have to go back there to caress those boards again, do it in business hours.
southey, 1385637697
i'm so glad you didn't write raw sons shaun . that would be creepy .
give Troy a break he's from WA .
why the hell one would relocate to SE QLD is probably more the question ?
shaun, 1385638892
Well , I can see why, he's a petrol head. Also there are so many wide eyed lads like wheelybin up there that he can groom and then lure to his hard to find factory, be grateful southy, I may have exposed one of the most evil serial killers of our times.
I was only giving him a bit of stick cause blind freddy could have seen he had his salesman hat on from the word go, which is ok just don't deny the obvious.
uplift, 1385639823
I wouldn't be so quick to blame the SE Qlander. More than likely the other way around. Unwelly, THE BRONZED GIMP, and sidekick, aka groges, probably cunningly found out where he is, have the poor guy bailed up and he's being forced to use the rawsons to barracade the door until the authorities arrive. Luckily none of THE BRONZED GIMPS team tabata can pull the skin off a rice pudding.
southey, 1385640342
thanx. shaun for such gracious service .... i was thinking to get a dog to help protect my kids from snakes and the like .
is Morris free ? perhaps some of that kiddy fiddling Radar of yours could of washed off onto him ;-)
whats you take for swell sunday will be in your neck of the woods .
wellymon, 1385641643
Classic stuff fellas :), lucky this Bronzed Tabata Gimp Whanger pulled it off during business hours, most enjoyable.
Rice pudding..? too many carbs.
You wanna snake dog Southie ,cant go past the little Jack's , they get there little nosey heads into all sorts of nooks and crannies. Got some stick too them as well, 10ft tall and fearless, untill they get a big kick up the arse.
grog-an, 1385665982
Haha.. Yep, I heard he was going to Hawaii, so we locked him in and forced him to eat 200 boiled eggs. It was for his own good.
grog-an, 1385666501
Just watched that jaws footage. How much does Dorian weigh?? 70kg?? Scrawny little fucker. Too bad for someone on here that it takes a bit more than fitness and being strong to surf big waves. A big set of nuts. Which a certain someone is missing.... This thread reminded me of his best and most used excuse when the swell got up. "Oh I'd go out but I don't have a big board" or left my proper board at home" or snapped my big board on the last swell". Yep, takes a bit more than fitness to paddle over the ledge, doesn't it uppity??
shaun, 1385667876
Southy, with a 1.m swell at 9 or 10 sec it will be a great day for diving or spending some time with the family and banking some brownie points, but on the other hand in your situation it might be a great day to just go and have look with no great expectations.
Be patient grogan, upskirt will come out to play sooner or later.
southey, 1385676333
yeah shaun . the forecast is grim . and if i was in normal circumstances i wouldn't bother its just that this is my weekend . but i'll be doing everything to find the best spot , and maybe i might need to put on the hiking boots and chase waterfalls ..... even if i'll be relying on the tertiary swell to provide some quality sets .
on another note all you whingers , it looks like there's a few LAGO's in the next week or so's forecast .
now they are definitely not something to whinge about ... i LOVE lago's .
welly , yeah jack's are the shit . i grew up with them and probably saved my life a few times in the bush as a young fella . they are hard though with so many national parks down here coastal . and just another mouth to feed , bonus though they are small enough to shove in glove box in said NP's . but yeah size of fight in the dog . bullet proof ....