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Im not naming any names but there is one reef break on the South coast that on it day can hold stand up barrels and do a fair impression of Backdoor pipe,there was a spread of it on swellnet or coast watch a while back on a semi day,surely Schmucker isnt referring to this place .On a big clean swell when all the planets align etc etc it can hold some serious size and not many crew are too keen to get the living daylights flogged out of them ,not to mention the walk and hill.With a ski it could be an option on big swells.
Either that or hes having a lend of us.
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I know where you're talking of old-dog, and whilst it's a pretty insane wave - when it breaks, that is - there are many equivalents over west (not sure where you'd launch a ski from though..).
Jeff's surfed every west coast break in its prime a thousand times over. I just can't imagine anywhere between the cape and the mouth that would even be half as good as what he's got at his doorstep.
So I'm with ya on the lend.
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old dog know that spot well,surfed it back in 1975 as a grom ,checked and surfed it many times over a 20 yr period in every possible cond ,huge swells, huge s/w storms e.t.c. on the maxin swells a outer reef comes in to play about 150 mts from regular take off spot,it holds anything...15mins by ski from launch area........big big big white territory. 1 or 2 days a year you would get west coast 6/10 quality.........check your nautical charts boys theres another spot within 5 ks in much deeper water that only breaks for an hour between tide changes ???????
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@ Zambezi- have you got any shots in your collection of Seal rocks/ The indicator?
Figured you may have taken a walk to Granite island at some point to take a few snaps.
Have heard first hand from a group of local boogers that they surfed it a couple of times, around the 2000 mark. Anyone have photos or first hand experience?
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@lpt,
I've only got a few shots of Seal Rocks, which, were taken, long range, from our house. They are not very good, but, here they are.
I did the "Big Duck" boat tour a few weeks ago which was a hoot. The skipper, Dan Irvine, has surfed the Seal Rocks left. Described it as spooky. Dan, If you're following this thread, how about giving us a first hand account ?
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Holy shit, that second photo must have been on a solid day.
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i thought you knew everythn dwn here ben....i'm serious....it exists and you even couldnt conjour up the condish for this thing!!!xx
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Jeff, here are the clues you've left (in your own words):
"I will surf before i die a flawless wave which breaks down there very occasionally"
"i know that you dont know about it because the last time it broke there were 3 guys out and it was smokn for 2 days"
"which means i know of a wave in your backyard that is sik and worth drivn from streaky to surf"
Could be anything from a point to a slab to a beachie to an island. Could be a left or a right. Could be a peak. Could be only accessible by boat, could be a three hour hike-in. Could be just about anything.
Could be a hoax.
I'm not convinced such a wave exists down there, but I'd love you to prove me wrong.
And by the way, I'm hardly the Victor expert. Sure, I surfed there regularly for a long time but there are many other commentators in this thread alone who have done much more hard yards on the South Coast - or any other coast in South Oz for that matter - than me.
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PS.. biggest clue you left that it doesn't exist:
"the last time it broke ... it was smokn for 2 days"
Victor has NEVER pumped for two consecutive days.
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:D
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i soften relatively easy ben as you know....but this one has 'honour,danger,passion,hardwork' attached to it!!! sneakn around troubridge shoal- marion reef as i write this..hmmmmm i like the look of this joint on a 226-232 95@18.....by the way ben i'll take this oppurtunity to thankyou publicly for teaching me and opening my eyes to a large portion of what i know about the way she all comes together!! so thanks!
ps. would a bullshit artist run a profile shot like mine?
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Great shots again zambezi love the perspective of all your photo's mate.The last shot of seal rocks was last years swell yeah?The only time I've been out there was with Tommy .V and Samboy in Tommy's tinny suss area to surf.There was a huge school of salmon circling the reef while the lads surfed the righthander so we pulled the pin and started following the school around the break having a few casts we lost sight of them and then when we caught back up to them there seemed to be a few of the salmon starting to float around in halves.The right is a good shaped wave and on solid swells would be great fun.Now down here as soon as whale season starts which is whenever the beasts rock up the whole of Encounter bay is in lock down with the use of jet skis and thats from Cape Jervis to the Murray mouth.This is in the prime swell period for us down here.Hefty fines of over a $1000 a pop which is a bummer.All this talk of this mysto wave is all very interesting indeed.
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fisho spot out to sea further south towards vic, maybe? bud muffin township
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fraser good ta see ya doin ya homework....unca schmuck is well aware of the ski closure...AB tried to go tow west last year and chickened out at the sign of a $1200 fine...east of jervis is good....bring an apple for the teacher tmoz....oh and dont star a forum on wave that havnt been surfed on the the west coast coz unca ben will run out of internet.. yyeeew
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you flueriu boys are quiet???? getn ready for the big south too?? "that wave" may be on....talk of the scraper too!! yeeeeow hope ya getn pitted come daylight satday!!
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So Schmucker you stirrer where the kennel are you now? Im convinced "that wave" is a figment of your over active imagination because if it existed you surely would have exposed it by now.Since when do you keep secrets?
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Gonna be size for everywhere early Sat!!
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what about winds craigos? looks a bit shit
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Yeah not the best. Outside chance for an early W'ly around Victor Harbor but everywhere else will be SW..
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old dog....you dont know me very well if you think i would have exposed it by now?? whoa...do you rekn i'm in a rush to expose everything i can?? ....if only you and a few more of my critics have any idea of whats gone down in over 3000 hrs on skis over the last 10 years ....we have seen some amazing stuff and not even half of it has reached a forum like swellnet for knackers to complain a bout....the wave exists....a few of you guys dont seem to want it to....juz tryn to keep the stoke in surfin....i'm gunna try to surf it...hope to see ya there.
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Smuck's, I hope the wave does exist & if it does hope it stays as myth to most of the SA surfing population- so those that have put in the hard work can enjoy crowd free.
whether it exists or not i don't think's the important thing, but the fact that its got people thinking about possibilities is the real win.
In this day of the ease of the whole interwebz thingy and kids being able to upload GPS co-ords to forums from their phones, anything that can be done to maintain some secrecy around little known spots needs to be upheld.
Gone are the days of rabbit eared topographical maps, long walks and stacking piles of rocks to mark a turn off- gone is the sense of adventure to most.
@ Craig- winds look better with a few hours drive and some mexican food, if you get my drift.
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hmmm mexico ipt?? yeah itd be worth the drive...wind be west there and its the swell for sure if we talkn the same.....i like the debate about blowing out waves ipt...dunno if i agree that things are blown out too much tho...not on the westcoast tho....cactus is and always wil be the most crowded juz coz it is what it is...go further west and itll be the same i rekn forever...i have surfed and driven the coast roads fishn all my life and its less crowded now than it was in the 80's....the island and blax on there days are busier but the vibe has changed...generally the young lads are all havn a good time now wher as years ago ther was more cold shoulder goin on....future looks bright and fun to me...yeeeeow....go east thisweekend young man!!
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Big swell coming pity about the winds at least the waters still warm.Looking to be a touch smaller than last years swell for here.The 5hr drive for burrittos sounds the go pity its the weekend.Hopefully this swell will give the beaches a shake up they certainly need it.I wonder if we can break the record for people at the pines?I might just go paddle out at the same spot as last year 3 times in 20 yrs not bad?
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@fraser gordon- bustin out the 8 footer?
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about a lifetime ago I picked up a few mates and headed off to Puerto while looking at similar weather maps. We got there to see perfect minature lines and 2 kids punch the crap out of each other, over the 1 foot swell on offer.
Skunked. Headed home having missed any stormy on offer at home.
Won't be heading there this weekend as much as I'd like to.
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@lpt Simon K just dropped Scottys old 7'6 for me to pack up and send over to Matty might give it a send off before she goes over west.Matty's going to take her to Gland with kingsy brown.Solid swell by the looks might be the cleanest option other than the pines good tide early arvo maybe dry reef on the high, moderating wind fingers crossed.
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The more south in the swell the better for the Mexican spot, and this swell will be more SW around there so I'd expect a bit of size lost. In saying this will be bigger than 1ft for sure!
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@ Fraser gordon- maybe gobble gobble Turkey run? I'll give you a call if I can free myself up for an early morning bolt/daytrip to grab some Quesadillas and check out donkeys painted as zebras.
@ Craig- winds down there forecasted for WNW early, would think it'll be more fun than solid, but might be worth dodging the weirdo kneeboarders and keeping a couple of extra spares in the rig- been some stories of the local tourist commission taking to tyres.
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Schmucks, Im not a critic, I cant even imagine what you and the boy have seen and ridden and can only look on with envy,to me it seems like a waste if no one records and documents some of the world class spots in S.A. That contest of yours at the bombie blew minds everywhere. That VB session made puerto Escondido look like kiddies corner and was BS, Lets face it how many crew have the knackers to surf these spots no-how. Any plans for shippies or "the right"or is that another level for crazy kamakazis only?Might see you at G......???
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Heres hoping for Saturday.
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ha no wuz u ol dog!! ya i gotta go to shippies for look....the boys from there hav been over a lot and they are such a wiked crew to hang with and love their surfn...josiah had a wild trip to shippies and got some mad ones and got belted too i might add...he got one crazy step into a massive pit which was worth the trip...he's done well at OURS and chopes as well....unbelievable what he has seen and anyone will attest that he's a delight to have in the water on any givn day....musta been his mums side showing thru.....the bommie comp was alltime ay...amazing that the day was still the best ever out there and it happened for the comp.....i liked kelly slaters comments about it when he seen it!! "thats the future of surfing right there" he said.....pretty cool day!!
josiah is frothn for the 'right ' but its probably the furtherest wave from home in the countryso we havnt been there yet....although we have flown from cape arid in the east to hopetown in the west searching for waves and yes we saw about 6 bommies that all looked rideable.... if only the bank acc looked better!!
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Swell seems to be dropping out for Sat.peaking Fri night.
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Swell can't be as good as predicted at Victor. I'd suggest that the further South East you head the bigger the swell. Stronger winds will also there. Might be some novelty spots come to life and still be clean in a few SE locations.
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I keep checking the charts and running the models, but, geez, I reckon we are going to be disappointed. The Alley might get some protection from the wind ??? Maybe Chickens ??? If it is good, It's going to be a short window.
I forgot this spot.
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That spot is gunna have some small sik ones you guys....thermal has worn out google lookn for it!!
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A lot of SA plated cars over mexico, only to get skunked!!
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I know Chicken Run was named for a good reason guys, but recently in South Oz with my partner, we took a walk around the point. I know it usually trickles, but it is an epic setup, has anyone got seriously good footage of it they can post?? On the subject of odd surfing locations, years ago I saw seriously fun lefts breaking in a mega stormy next to the Rapid Bay Jetty, anyone got a comment on that?(sorry guys I watched only, the place reeked of shark risk, I was alone, the substantial crowd at 'M' was less scary). No-one has posted a pic of West Island surfed yet as far as I can tell, I never saw anyone venture across in my years in SA. Anyone just been axed by their soulmate? Do the paddle with a photog present, even if you don't paddle back, it could still be named after ya! Soz I had to bail for warmer waters guys, I think I pulled on an ice-cold wettie, in the old corrugated dunny at Hallet's one too many times in winter! The dunny's since gone, but the old concrete changing room at Middleton Cove still stands, needs to be heritage listed...
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Chicken Run looks like a classic little Qld point setup but is at best a piece of crap, every body seems to go through a kook stage and surf it,not worth the short walk.Surfed Rapid Bay a few times in the early days,waste of time don't bother.Funny how everyone gets all excited about big swells at Victor and then drives around looking at novelty spots only to end up sorting through rubbish at the Dump with a cast of thousands.To get class waves on that coast dont you need small swell and good banks West of Victor?
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Spunoutatagneswaters - I hear you re bailing for warmer waters. Grew up surfing Halletts and "Dunnies" - little left point (sort of) named after a toilet. Prime conditions often involves hail. Feet get so cold that you cant feel them getting worked on the rocks. Having the key to the surf life saving club and hot showers was gold back in the day. Now living on north coast NSW. My folks have a place overlooking the Dump, sent me a text this morning saying they counted 70 surfers out there! I surfed this morning in boardies with 1 mate - done my time surfing freezing waves named after toilets and what you do in them....
Deep creek was always fun for a bit of a mish, got back there over xmas, wasnt too bad...
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Old Dog, it seems too tragic that Chicken's never gets good. I can't say I ever road tested it on a giant swell, but if it can't pull up a metre of swell at best, it can only be taken as a curse from Huey from the dreamtime era. It would be interesting if anyone can lay on footage to prove that Chicken's is capable of breaking in a dignified way. Mundies, thanks for your comments on sharing the winter memories of tackling 'dunnies' in a howling S'Westerley. Once and only once did I experience the break on a freak summer SW gale, in comparitive warmth. It was wierd being able to leave Hallet's with full use of my limbs to drive!!Cheers guys...
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I've actually managed to surf a couple of metro locations (Halletts, Brighton Jetty, West Beach) on small clean groundswells. The south side of the Boat Harbour in particular had an interesting rebound for a few months (circa '02/03-ish) that produced a nice little wedge - boosting a knee-waist high line of swell up to chest-shoulder high on the face.
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Ben, yes I can recall a few rare waist height groundswells surfing dunnies good fun. But its the usual Adelaide surfers lament "if only....." (insert lament eg if only KI wasnt there, if only it was a foot or two bigger, if only I was at Yorkes/west etc...). But still not too bad I guess being only 20km or so from the CBD. Halletts has a couple of other novelty waves, one we named 3rd fence up along the cliffs towards Stanvac, and a couple of spots at the other end of the beach. First time I recall getting barrelled was kneeling on a nippers clubbie racing board at sheidows as a little nipper/grom riding into the boat ramp, if I caught the same wave today I'd probably be lucky to fit more than the bottom half of my shin in it.
Spunoutatagneswaters - those summer sou'westers were often the best, seemed to more consistently actually have some swell behind it rather than pure wind chop. Plus not as cold of course...
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Guys, In my Adelaide surfing years, I picked all over the Fleurieu Peninsula, sometimes with my buddies, turning up some very quirky locations. I saw and surfed douable waves probably 3-4 times at Marino Rocks right on the point/car park area. We found four small beaches between Parsons and Tunkalilla Beach, they were so awkward to get to through unwelcoming farms, I never fully checked them out. The second we called 'Calla's' think it was Callawonga, could produce a small, fun right hander, broke into the mouth of the creek. I never got on to Tunkalilla Beach in all that time,it's actually at least as long as the full length of Waits. Used to be a sign at the gate (down a long track) saying 'go past this point, and we shoot first, ask questions later'. So Tunks stayed a mystery to me, can you get there now, anyone got dirt on it? Is 'Tunk Heads' only a fable? The list of Fleurieu 'nov spots' is far from exhausted yet. I'm ok with just Agnes guys, related to 'Agnes Water' not a sexual identity issue, 'Agnes'
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Chi-clops doing its thing (props to Wanna Surf)
mysto
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Chicken Run is a hoax and it only takes a couple of disappointing surfs to realise it.
I've had one day out there though where the odd one would actually wall up into the middle of Bashams but then it was only good enough to get speed and then cut back into the pocket.
Saw images and footage from the Alley this swell and to call that a wave is 50/50. If the wave barrels and the closes out down the line nearly every wave I don't think you can call it a proper wave, but then that's what the whole coast is about.. "Almost waves"
Also I see the sand from Knights has been absolutely taken away with rocks all the way to the cliffs. Crazy!
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Oh fuck, computer just swallowed about 300 words... Summary - spunout: sheepies was fun when young, some epic waves many snapped boards and dud walks across prickle and snake infested farm. Next beach over little right wedge but fickle as a pickle and you'd have to be tripping, bent, or both to spend much time chasing it. Tunks has its moments, 3rd rate reef and triple up shorey at times with generally closeout pits in the middle of the beach. I have seen pics from tunks a fair bit lately in surf media but based on what I've seen and ridden of the place most of these barrel shots would probably end in quick shallow closeouts. Read in an earlier thread someone calling the Fleurieu the "Almost Coast".
Just got back from a BBQ, coupla Chilenos and mates who regularly surfed Chile and lived there 4-5 months of the year. Had a little photo preview. Was there in 2010 with my wife whose family is from Chile and surfed round Pichilemu and surrounds. Now there is a coast with realised potential - the "Most Coast"....
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Agree with ya Mundies. It's a lot more miss than hit in that neck of the woods.
spunoutatagneswaters, I've walked to all of those breaks too and they're super fickle but there is a lot of potential. Just like everywhere else down south though.
I think that's the thing that gets to most people - the amount of legwork done for mediocre waves. It's hard to keep going back to places so hard to reach after a dozen consecutive skunkings due to no banks, funky winds or wrong tides.
Installing the Middleton cam a little while ago has reminded me of just how shithouse it really is. For the last eight years I've lived interstate, I've tried to reflect positively on the half decent sessions I had there over the years. Now the reality is all coming back to me!
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I went exploring on a day when i took these shots at parsons,
there are more locations that hold quality big waves (2 or 3 times a year)
dont give up on the coast there are more pits outside of the cockletrain stretch,
Ive found an old tracks that has a section on "bull terriors" ill scan it up
cool read guys
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Ha Mysto may be the first photo of the turkey run and nice photos of parsons, what no one out?Love those big lefts off the point.Ha ha Jeffs wave is true wa ha ha.
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Here is a little rock hopper for you all with a Chicken fetish.
Sounds like there are a few Chicken haters out there too. Too bad I say. Go out there with a cruisy attitude and be prepared to rip a fin or two out and there can be some fun rides. It's never going to be West Island, so don't expect it to be.
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If it did that (pic above) for more than 30m then it'd be worthwhile!
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she gospel fraser....gee you guys really are lucky that you can put up shots and talk about different waves down there without fear of rejection from your peers...anyways cheers for all the shots lads...dunno if the scraper qualifys for floorio but ab and cupl lads towed that on friday...bit shifty 10ft...mission to ride the ski across the channel to ki...an hour of pounding....end of the day ya goota take ya hat off to that comittment and dedication....wind was a bit too south....saw a few adelaide boys at blax last night...they were all smiln and let us tow the arvo away with no paddlers...thanx fellas!!!
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When we were grommets we'd have a grovel in the puss at Chicken skins and then for a thrill we would take it in turns crouching behind the big rock in the rockpool holding on for dear life as the whitewater spewed over top creating the illusion of being tubed, we called it tube rock,when a real big set came you couldn't hold on and were swept over the rocks and out into the lineup,much to the amusement of your mates watching.On one such occasion I came in with a big flap of meat hanging off my leg,luckily I had a wetsuit repair kit in my bag and a mate stitched me up for free.Come to think of it that was about the closest Ive come to getting shacked on the dark side of Victor.
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mysto's, thanks for the piccy showing a wall of sorts can be found at Chicken's, rare though it may be. Pick up your comments about knocking out fins B.C. I knocked two out surfing small waves at Kings, Caloundra over summer, just add $25 bucks each time to your session cost! For those tempted to pick over those small beaches up from Parsons, I always suspected the third one up, had the most potential. My recollection is it had two distinct points giving some point/wind protection potential. I'd be going back for a look If I lived in South Oz. The fourth beach, had an old derelict farmhouse looking over the beach, you could just walk into. Even had an old mattress or two in it. Murphy's law of course. I was there with a mate, and not a hot date met on the previous night, on the dance floor of the 'Crown'. Spunout...
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shot a few years ago at a location between Parsons and Cape Jervis. Spunout, I recon you might have stumbled across this in your ventures.
Good place to bring extra fins and perhaps ding repair kit.
There was also a freight train left on the beach.
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What a stupid place to leave a train....
Sounds a bit, erm, Fishery to me....
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Hey fellas its one thing to talk about Bullies,Chicken run,Middleton the dump and Waits and Parsons but shouldn't West of Parsons be taboo.Anyone whose anyone knows the score and would want to keep some things quiet.There ain't many places left where you and a couple of mates can slide into the odd stand up pit these days.
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Apparently Old-dog, the ship has no rudder. It's a vehicle out of control....you can name any spot these days it seems. Gives you kudos you see. And besides, if you don't do it someone else will...better get in first they say...very much like "the tragedy of the commons".
So guys, it's the topic of the moment, so it had better be put out there. When is it ok to name a spot?
I reckon its an important discussion as surf ettiquite is all becoming a bit hazy.
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Have been reading this thread for quite a while now and have loved all the photos and stories that go with them. I have found it very interesting about all the naming of spots down your way and although I may never venture that way (too cold and too big a bities) it has given me quite an insight into the area. I have assumed, because I am not familiar with the area, that all the places mentioned are quite well known.
Which poses Stans question. I don't know when it suddenly becomes ok to publically name a place. This question has been raised upteen times on this site. For me personally, through years of personal experience, I keep a couple of places under wraps even from my good mates. Sounds selfish, but over the years I have found my little refuges become overrun and I"m running out of places to find some solitude when I want a quiet surf without travelling hours for it. Sometimes I just don't have the time.
So its up to me to keep my trap shut until someone else starts looking and checking regularly and then its their choice which road to go down in whether they start letting others know. It is hard to keep things under wraps and it won't stay that way forever, but its up to each individual as to how quickly a place becomes no longer that spot for a quiet surf.
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Good morning Fitzy...refreshingly honest post there mate...good to hear your opinion and the ever closing situation you are facing...other alternatives are moving further away into the desert/bush/cold/isolated which is what happened in the 70's-80's more so than now...the WC of south oz is less crowded now than back then by around half i think...we surfed 3 days over the weekend,pumping, saw 1 guy in the water that wasnt associated with our small group...a long way from you but relatively easy for us to get to....
as far as naming new spots goes,i have always read surfmags/net and frothed on a shot or vid of a new spot and dreamed of going there immediatley...never did i think "they're shithouse for doing that"...it always inspired me to travel and explore far/wide/around home... as far as crowding out a new spot or an old secret one i rekn "if you are happy you WILL enjoy the scenery on a detour"
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Morning Jeff, agree that it is what you make of it.
I also don't belive "they're shithouse for doing that" quote, as eventually anywhere the cat will be let outa the bag, its human nature to explore.
I live in a relatively quiet area that gets frequented on weekends and holiday periods so thats why I like my little places of solitude. But even all the locals can crowd a break when its on. Don't get me wrong, I love surfing with all my mates, I just enjoy quiet surfs to myself at times.
I also have other alternatives that require relatively long boat trips when the conditions are right. That is fortunate for me because of my work, but not everyone has those luxuries. There are a couple of spots up here that I know for a fact, that myself and a couple of friends are the only people to have ever surfed. Location and conditions dictate it.
If people get off their asses and explore they may be pleasantly surprised at what they may find. Its entirely up to them then to decide its fate.
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@ Old Dog. Sorry for any offence caused. Unintentional, I assure. Frankly though, the Fleurieu is not so big a place that ANY spot is unknown and, therefore, fair game. Every single surfer that I know knows of the spots west of VH; it's really a question of whether most can be bothered checking them out when there are easier or surer options elsewhere. It's not called the Hoax Coast for nothing, after all.
Now, if I spilled the beans about some of the secret spots on KI, the south-east, or Western Vicco, THAT would really deserve a serve.
Anyhoo, peace.
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If anyone thinks theyve gota spot on the flerieu thats a secret haha your delirious and kidding yourself, this coast has been surfed for bout 50 odd years now EVERY spot has been surfed by 100s of ppl WAKE UP GUYS the secret spots are out and known, and have been for about 20 yrs if not longer. its just how secluded and difficult to get too that make those spots between parsons and jarvis empty most of the time! If you think youve got a secret spot down there wake up outta dreamland! hell i know guys interstate that dont even surf and know all of the reefs and beachies in those parts just from 4 wheel driving/trekking and fishing even tho they dont surf they'd know exactly where to go if they did. ha ha yous guys are funny
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howdi spunjah, you must have been one of them three guys that were surfing 'THAT' wave when it broke 3-5ft spinning barrels for 2 days recently...if what you say is true then there would have been at least a myponga point showing of 15-30 guys?? nah i disagree...there is at least one sik little show down there worth driving from streaky for that i know of and i'm a novice over that neck o tha woods.
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Regardless Spunjah, thats not the point.
I reckon its ok to name spots if they are well known i.e. surfed by the wider community, exist within surfing centres, have a purpose built carpark, have been spoken about for the last few decades etc. Always exceptions to that of course.
I also think its not quite so good to name spots if they are not well known to the general surf population and are of high quality or are lesser known spots in someone else's backyard (i.e. may affect local surfers adversely by increasing crowds). I do however think that you may refer to places in code for those who may also be on the sniff. Surfing lesser known spots with other respectful crew is great.....except when the waves are drying up. No harm in having a few secrets out there and no need to publicize everything on the web.
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@ SF - "I also think its not quite so good to name spots if they are not well known to the general surf population and are of high quality or are lesser known spots in someone else's backyard (i.e. may affect local surfers adversely by increasing crowds). I do however think that you may refer to places in code for those who may also be on the sniff."
Which is precisely my point: the break in question is fickle, rippy and rocky, (viz. poor quality 99.9% of the time) and in no-one's backyard.
Besides which, no-one can find a secret spot by knowing and saying its name. (Which, by the way, I didn't.)
This has been a fun thread up until now. No-one has given away any secrets, just names. If the spots all ARE secrets, they are - to borrow from Donald Rumsfeldt - all Very Well Known Unknowns.
How about backing off with the Thought Police act?
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Ease up there champ, not a personal attack, just having a conversation. There have been a fair few spots named on this and other threads and if you read comments from those in other states, they seem to indicate it has given them a fair wording up as to the existence and location of some of these. As for the thought police, I would never dream telling you how to think....who knows what goes on in that twisted space?
Interesting that you think every place on the Fleurieu is up for grabs.
Anyhow, back to the question, when is it ok to name surf spots...your thoughts please Mr whaaaat
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When did you crow-eaters get the internet connected anyhow?
I thought you only got printed books last year.
Progress huh?
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When is it OK? Well, I name 'em all of the time; telling people where to find 'em - now that's another story. Never tell nobody nuthin. Unless it's mates. But then, natch, I kill 'em straight after their first session. SA being the shallow grave capital of the world and all....
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i reckon for the majority of breaks, once there are regularly 10 or more guys out or checking it on a decent day the break cannot be considered in any way secret and 10 guys or 100 guys whats the difference it's not going to be an enjoyable session battling for a share of waves. Hence i have no problem with naming or giving directions to 99.9% of waves on the south coast of NSW
obviously if we are talking about a lengthy wave like a superbank or winkipop then 10 guys wouldn't be considered crowded but the majority of south coast waves are just one take off point and a fairly short ride. I can't stand the all too familiar feeling of being the first guy out at a reef getting a couple of good waves then seeing half a dozen heads appear over the hill 5 minutes later :(
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Better than coming over the hill and seeing half a dozen guys out.
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@whaaaat you'd have to do a lot better than that to offend the old dog and yeah in hindsight everyone knows its a waste of time going West of Pars, better off going straight to Dribs or Day St., hey.Saves on petrol too.
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@stanfrance et al,
When is it ok to name a spot?
I think the starting point is Nat Young's "Surfing And Sailboard Guide To Australia" (1986). I'm looking at it now ... names, maps, directions, photos, conditions needed etc. If a spot is listed in that book, then it's probably fair game. There is a photo of West Island on page 208. That was 26 years ago. I can't see an influx of crew from the eastern seaboard suddenly descending upon the Fleurieu..... Geez, they will be disappointed.
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Apropos of nothing, any mexicans about that remember a surf guide on your garden state by an ex-Hawthorn player by the name of Loveridge? It's called THE ULTIMATE GUIDE. It caused a wee bit of controversy at the time I seem to recall because of the spots mentioned as well as the details provided on access, optimum conditions etc. Er, why am I posting this? Am I part of the problem? What is the problem? Is there a problem?? AAAAAIIIEEEEE! On a lighter note, Margaret River has been chosen to become a...wait for it...SUPERTOWN! The main criteria for selection? Potential for population expansion and economic expansion and diversification. Later Margs, nice to know ya. Any jobs on the West Coast of SA? I've got a chemistry degree...
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True Zambezi,
I lived elsewhere for 12 years and returned to Adelaide 2 years ago. Feels like I have regressed....in many ways....waves here are so gay.....sigh
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Angry B....can you gut shark??
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angry, Chem degree... I can probably get ya a gig at Cloncurry or maybe Cobar.
Any good.?
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hmmm, tempting offers...I've got a mate, Cuzzo, in Esperance at the minute looking into a few opportunities...I'll get back to yas
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southey, in some parts of this great land the 24/7, 365, decades-brigade often create their own vibe and live in their own stink. they've already made up dramas their mind and live them out in real life.
other parts of Aust. have no choice but to be accommodating and get on with life.
always good value when you bump into the stinkers in "other parts of Aust", when say they are on hols with their family... they pack up and bail quick smart, cos they don't want to risk subjecting themselves or their family to the same sort of shit they've been dishing out for "decades".
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"THE STINKERS" haha i like this handle sid...you are so right on the money and everyone that looks on here know excactly what you are talkn about. The westcoast has a fair share of them and some of them travel ironically...Right again sid!!...now when you see the same guy at the bluff that you saw on your way up there at the island or granites and you say hi to him at the bluff and he kisses your ass yet at streaky he wouldnt have even pissed on you if you were on fire, your respect for him is at an alltime low im sure. Try reminding him that you met him up north next time your in streaky and he'll flatly deny it...hmmmm...WHY??
PS...its even more magnified when you run into em overseas somewhere...they even wanna go partyn with ya.
back to the flooriue...these guys from there seem to be using some sort of reverse phyc on us....are they hiding sumthn????
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My rough take is this guys. Say your discussing the coast between Parsons and Jervis. There just aren't any legendary spots in there, we all know it's long walks and risks of psychotic farmers for at best, highly fickle and novel waves on their day. People who are seriously interested in surfing are more likely to pick over a forum like this than the masses, and God help me if your willing to do the walk to Callawonga on a hot northerly day for modest, quirky pickings you surely deserve any fruits thereof. I think the potential problem sorts itself out. If by some freak chance your sitting on the knowledge of a spot like Maverick's virtually alone, there's buggerall chance your going to leak it to the wider community like us. The Noosa's of this world (actually Nationals was very, very good yesterday morning) have long since been fully exposed. You could drop a flyer in every Adelaide surfers letterbox today saying, have you thought about checking out the beaches past Parson's this weekend, and you wouldn't get a single more person down there checking it out. 99.9% of today's secret spots are basically known about, very fickle and bloody awkward to get to. I haven't seen any stuff on this forum, that's going to cause a deluge of surfers to move in on a far flung location, cheers spunout...
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The sign says "Welcome to Middleton S.A.s Premiere surf beach".Someone should post some lineup(?)shots of this hole for the interstate viewers who have prolly never seen a crabbing beach with surf before. Grey mud instead of sand the stench from 12'high mounds of rotting seaweed,brown water and line after line of soft flat closeouts to the hori. O.K. the reform left in the bay can show some form but its a washing machine and you are constantly duck diving soup.When someone brags about surfing 7ft Dribs there's a fair chance they are a kook,if they claim to have been tubed off the point they must be on hard drugs.Unfortunately this aint reverse phyc.As for west of Parsons I say let sleeping dogs lie.
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Most of the photos in this thread are cornball/novelty waves or just rarely break.
Below is the evil reality of it all & the funny thing is those of us that are Adelaide/Fleurieu based are probably mind surfing it.
Photo taken on the swell event of the year so far, and auto correct has been used to get some brown out of the water.
Time to pull on the 4/3, booties and hood boys and get on it!
And this is whats termed a 'point break' on the South coast :), you've gotta get your expectations low and your froth factor up or you'd never get in the water. Stands to reason why Maxie rated it as he did last Saturday- there was a reasonably solid swell and it was nearly offshore for an hour or two in the morning-Rare thing
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Errrrgghhhhh!!! Just look at that shite. Dog, it's great to be back in Vicco.
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Ipt, are we allowed to try and guess that spot? I have a hunch, but I could be terribly wrong. Take your point about the West of Parsons comment Old Dog, people are supposed to listen to each other in forums, and when youv'e left the state for regions devoid of any unknown areas, such as myself, how easy to sprout on about someone else's sacred turf. Going right back to the West Island Left discussion guys, interesting that with all the discussion and awareness of the spot, no photos of anyone shooting the curl (perhaps for the last time) in that spooky location. Ross-Clarke Jones if you are reading, want to get the ball rolling? I'm sure Shark Island was watched for a good many years, before the first certifiable nutter, launched meters away from the ledge. Perhap's 'Lynch's Left' is yet to have it's day. I have to add my agreement that Middleton is not a desirable surfing location, but I'm not going to put crap on surfing around Victor either. If you say no to the vast Middleton paddle, and poke around with a creative spirit, there's a few gems in the frosty crown, cheers spunout...
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@ spunout, its no secret spot and has been named & photos posted within this thread already, so I wouldn't think you'd be putting any noses out of joint. At its best its a hoax, and at its alltime its still a below average wave.
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Well its had a Chicken shop named after it.
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Wot, "Turkeys"???!!!
God, I gotta stop me whingin... Miss me mates, but not those waves.
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The South Coast always was a photogenic location...and a bit of a hoax! The Almost Coast? Tying together a coupla themes, the special uniqueness of this place is in this potential AND in its relative uncrowdedness. One accounts for the other. Living on the other side of the country now at a name location, the crowd factor is THE FACTOR in the enjoyment stakes in the main…unless you can jag a bloody good one of course! When things click back home on the South Coast and you're sharing some weird, fickle and pumping waves with mainly mates...well, I think over the years these are among the best sessions you will have period. Yeah, the South Coast is frustrating...we've all beer-planned groynes, artificial reefs, dynamite-assisted scenarios (er…), even bizarre plans to drive old cars into the breakers (guess who wanted to do that one!)...but it's part of its appeal too. Cos when it happens...hooo-weee! Jeez, I remember a trip back a coupla years ago when I snagged one of the longest barrels I've had on my backhand EVER in this country...well, not since my stints in the NW of WA...ON THE SOUTH COAST?! Surprised the shit out of me! & the crucial main diff...5 guys out!! Sickballz! Er, did I mention the quarter century 'waiting period'?
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Thats the best thing about this wave, its association with the best chips & gravy on the coast:)
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...and the Port Elliot Bakery.
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Spotted someone doing a reconnaissance mission on a recent small day.
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Zambezi- last swell? interesting the numbers out at Kings on the Sunday-appears a flame has been rekindled with some
@ JWG, nearly sounds like you miss the place - but your spot on when you win the lotto and swell/tide/wind/banks all line up, it makes scoring that much more memorable. Hope your still getting a few waves over there champ. If not a yellow 8 footer will help the cause by the sounds of it :)
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Port Elliot bakery and Chicken Run were my staple. Surf, eat, surf, eat :D
Always jumped on the Sausage roll/fruitbox/donut deal for around $5 or such. Guessing that's not the offer anymore..
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Don't think so. I'm a chili or cheese kransky man meself. So much cholesterol; so little time to get it in to yer....
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I remember when the Middleton bakery first opened (hi Vicki!), they had these amazing pork pies with apple sauce. Dunno if they still do them any more but that was my post-surf staple.
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Congratulation every one who came down to the mid this morning, "April Fools" Honestly is a friggen circus down here this morning and its like 2 and half foot on the sets and dropping quick. Bloody sundays!
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Hey Jeff
Was doing abit of tuna fishing on sunday off the cape and stumbled across a likely looking wave. Was breaking but perhaps too much wsw swell and not enough size for it. Looked like it might be okay for a tow on its day. Without giving anything away and being a little cryptic, it looked like this wave had a fair bit of love about it, has this been surfed?
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Zambezi, that's a seriously good shot of the West Island Left. I'ts hard to dispute that's a very rideable wave face. My hunch that's evolved over this forum, is that it's only a matter of time before it gets tackled. Piss easy to get out to the spot with a Waverunner team from Encounter Bay. I go back to my point that some very nasty breaks took a long time to get seriously tackled. Having WATCHED Shark Island at The Nulla in some very mean swells, I'm going to suggest it's a more dangerous wave than on offer at West Island. Someone breathing down my neck at the Public Library at Gympie, gotta scram fellas, spunout...
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sa great....cape??? na too cryptic....more clues plz
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Cape Jervis Jeff.
I was thinking it might have been the wave you have been hinting at on here previously.
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the scraper it sounds like
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Well considering how hard it would be to get to for most there is probably no harm in talking about it ala the west island left. It was a bombie pretty close to shore around cape heart. Has anyone else seen it break or surfed it, looked like it had some potential in the right swell, winds etc
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sounds a lot like the scraper....jeffs mate a.b. towed it very recently i think...jeff? ..... looks like a wild piece of water ,very strong currents....many knots with a tide change.
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Did get one photo of it looking alright, how do we attache em on here? I had heard of the scraper, but was under the impression in was closer to Willoughby, this one is around 8km around the corner from willoughby.
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Can you feel your ears burning sagreat
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Sagreat, you have to upload it to photobucket or flickr etc and then just post the image link they give you.
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sorry mate...been busy surfn an dodgen angry locals....cape heart?? i seen it smkn..its real deal ....adventurous to say the least...
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right this has gone far enough, Ben pull the damn plug now!!!
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could be a bit cryptic there shralpz, but the vibe i'm getting is we might be back in the territory of preserving some details about isolated spots from the net. Tricky debate this one in the age of Facebook and Google Earth. I had a few more very odd, hard to find and essentially deeply shitty novelty spots from the Fleurieu I was going to raise discussion on, but after recent banter, held on the idea. Just a distraction from the current energy folks. I assume some of you lads have substantial links with the local surf industry/market. Why not put up a marketing wager around the South oz surf fraternity. First one to submit a shot of themselves seriously pitted at 'Lynch's' wins a free gun, and an all expenses paid trip to Shippies on the next frightening day it's on. Not such a crazy idea guys, there's glory to be had, and bloody good fodder for a Track's article. Comment's please. Safe driving through the surf crowds this Easter, surf prospects for Agnes suprisingly good for this time of year, related to a slight disturbance being experienced in Fiji...spunout
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Actually, how about we instead make it the first person to submit a shot of themselves getting seriously pitted anywhere on the South Coast?
Either way it'll still take a year or two for us to receive any entries :D
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Ben,
You are right. It's fucked living down here. It never pumps for more than one day. The food is crap. The beaches are a polluted mess. There are pointers everywhere and angry locals ready to shred your tires. As I fired up the BBQ on the deck tonight, looking out over a balmy Encounter Bay, with a cold Pale Ale in hand, I thought to myself, Yeah, life sucks. Smiley face.
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What a day. Would of been 6-8ft at salmonhole, 10-12ft at rockpiles (Ive surfed rockpiles that size once, really fun and pretty easy actually as it dosent pitch hard on take off)
I would of been at the hole if not for the reality of work ect, im sure some scored. I surfed ye old horseshoe reef, had it to myself for a while a couple of ppl paddle out after a while. Pretty shifty, ledgey with quite a few breaking wide. Took awhile to dial in but got quite a few sweet ones mid tide, one nice barrel in there.
Solid 4ft on the sets could even push it to 5ft for the odd rogue (on the mid no less), bit of wonkin the swell as it was overapping the old decaying swell. So sometimes you get that a set with a smaller wave to close in front but not close enough to double up, ya's know what im talking about. Tuesday arvo was pretty sweet too.
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Christian Locke slotted on the South Coast, not where you think but not far from there.
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nice pic of ZELDA old dog........nicely slotted .
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Someone mentioned Rockpools, found some old frames of me out there in the old days.
BTW spoke to a bloke who was at Kings during the 75 Aussies he said heaps of crew were free-surfing the waddy closeouts between Kings and West Is.and two heroes paddled over to the left but it was really inco and they only shoulder hopped a few but it looked like every now and again a real pearler would come through.
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Ben. I should have amended my suggestion that anyone snapped riding "Lynch's' in any form is worthy of a gun and a trip to Shippies via Adelaide surf companies. Any form could even involve taking a lid out there, and surviving one drop in between the seals. I'm not a big wave 'risk technition' to quote Ken Bradshaw, surfing round Agnes should vouch for that! For the serious tow in surfer, I think there are much heavier assignments than this one, to be executed. I'll throw in the first $100 to see someone weaving through the seal colony on this much discussed left, anyone else in? come on Weasel, up the stakes!
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On Youtube type in Solitude EP 1 or EP 2 and theres plenty of footage wth plenty of ppl in the water surfing the 'LEFT' of West island
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@spunjah,
Nice vids, but the footage is of Shark Alley. Not West Island.
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ahhh k my bad shark alley breaks off pullen its not west is then
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probably pull a few hits on youtube though damn sponger
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@spunjah,
Shark Alley breaks off Wright Island in Rosetta Bay. Pullen's is in Port Elliot. West Island is adjacent to King's. Rastafaria ... Ever livin Ever Surus Ever Solasia.
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baha i think i best lay off the green and start reading a few maps, know where they all are and how to get to em jst forgot their geographical names.
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So guys, the vibe seems to be no footage (youtube or otherwise) of West Island cranking, complete with surfrider. Looks like my hundered dollareenies is sitting very safely. Still waiting cash in hand folks, can't wait to part with it, spunout...
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29 April 2012
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Sunday? Mysto? When our we going to get a roaring swell without an easterly?
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Another hot shot of the left mr mysto, all it needs is some creative photoshop tinkering, and voila that's you slotted in there at Lynch's...
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I'd love to see an angle from the top of the island. Are there any permission issues in landing there?
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@ Ben- I understand its either government or uni? research area and boats aren't permitted to dock over there. Some of the South Coast boys should be able to shed light on this.
Last Sunday at the peak of the swell around 3pm, it was actual breaking around 30m wider than where it usually does (looked like it was breaking on another section of reef) and looked as rideable as I've seen it for a long time. It was breaking in slow mo, so guestimate of around the 10ft mark with near close out sets on the inner section of reef between west & kings.
Would think zambezi may have got some shots?
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Yeah, just looked it up LPT. West Island is an Aquatic Reserve. More info here.
The N/NW side of the coast (where the research shed is located) is completely out of bounds. A second, broad area stretching into the bay (ie towards the mainland) and out across towards Kings is OK for "rod and line or handline only."
The remaining area around West Island (ie west, south and east coast) is partially off limits: PIRSA says "no fishing, no collecting or removing any marine organisms".
So, it looks like the area where you'd land a boat at West Island is completely off limits unless you're associated with the University of Adelaide's research program.
However, the area where the wave breaks is OK to access either by boat or by paddling across from Kings (!). But, there is "no fishing, no collecting or removing any marine organisms" allowed.
Actually, that could be a problem - if you got pitched on an eight foot bomb, it'd be hard not to remove marine organisms from the granite boulders underwater :)
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even harder removing the abalone embedded in your face after you resurface :)
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As removing the Abalone from your dial after you resurface would be the undertakers problem, what the heck hey! Thermalben it's a bloody long time since I landed a tinny on the backside of the island, but I have done it. I probably have vivid memories cause it was shit scary bringing a tinny around the Bluff in a fair swell, and all boating safety regulations would have been in full breach! I recollect a small wooden landing jetty next to the shed area, but otherwise fairly unfriendly boulders making hooking up a boat pretty awkward. The area is definitely out of the swell zone, but ? how much if the swell is thundering. Getting about once on the island was no problem, almost flat enough up the top to dob a footy around. Having been over the island, you would certainly get an insane view of the left from above, bit of a safer gamble for calculating rideability, than a Jet-Ski exploration...s
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I reckon you need to raise the stakes @spunoutatagneswaters. Come on Bear, $100 will never cover the medical bills of a mistake, let alone the cost of a funeral.
@lpt. I had a look at it earlier in the day, and it was very sketchy with the easterly. Sounds like it was better, later in the day.
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A bit of Trivia for you guys. Was digging around on Google last night and found a Government report on West Island that named at least 6 landmarks on the island. The point in question is 'officially' named 'Oedipus Point'. Two suggestions here for simplicity for surfers vocab. 1. Pus Point 2. 'Pussies'. Maybe Pussies would stick cause of the high risk, and rather squeezy take off zone. Also got as close to the corner of the island as Google Earth would allow. That boulder is possibly slightly clear of the island and surrounded by water, perhaps tidally. From above the rocky 'point' looks more like a ledge type wave to me. So how much clearance from the ledge do you get? Can't raise the stakes alone brothers, 9 more in with $100 at least covers your pine box. Who's Bear then? I'll come clean. The name's Julian Wilson, little known Coolum local...s
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Oedipus, eh?
According to the ever-reliable Wikipedia, "In psychoanalytic theory, the term Oedipus complex denotes the emotions and ideas that the mind keeps in the unconscious, via dynamic repression, that concentrate upon a boy’s desire to sexually possess his mother, and kill his father."
I'm never gonna look at West Island the same again.
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bahaha didnt know he had it in him lol
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(European mythology)
Literal meaning: ‘swollen-foot’. Son of Laius, King of Thebes, and Queen Jocasta. His father, having learnt from an oracle that he was doomed to perish by the hands of his own son, exposed Oedipus on a mountainside, immediately after his birth, with his feet pierced and tied together. The child was found by a shepherd who took him to the childless King and Queen of Corinth; they brought Oedipus up as their own son.
In his youth Oedipus was told by the Oracle at Delphi that he would kill his father and marry his mother and, horrified, he resolved never to return to Corinth. Ignorant of his true ancestry, he set out for Thebes and on the road encountered King Laius, whom he slew in a quarrel over the right-of-way. Near the city he answered the riddle of the Sphinx, then a plague to all travellers, and for defeating this monstrous female wingedlion, the Thebans made him their king. He married the widowed Jocasta and so, unwittingly, fulfilled the prophecy. In time he became aware of the patricide and incest: this self-discovery caused him to blind himself before going into exile, where in the grove of Colonus near Athens the Eumenides finally released Oedipus from an earthly existence. Jocasta hanged hereself shortly afterwards.
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/oedipus#ixzz1uA2tEx6x
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Barreling left's & Greek mythology- I can see the next instalment of Kongs island, but with a creepy incestual slant :)
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Righto ... Mythology ay ... Sort of shortlists an available conquestor .
Two people come to mind ...
Both (nick)named SPARTICUS .
A certain Tahitian Michel Bourez , that is currently on the TOUR .
And Paul Donda from up in the NWA .
Both are Goofy's and are known to take on Solid Lefts .
Paul , i will except the Apology if your Mythology days are Over .
As for Michel , sign him up to slay the Pussy Dragon ....
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roger 'the dodger' mathews may have surfed the west island left ?
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@victor, No Roger has surfed just about every novelty spot in SA but not West Island,I quizzed him on it a few weeks back, He was at Kings for the 75 Aussies and recalls two blokes paddled across but didnt have much luck.He prides himself on having surfed just about everywhere but no cigar this time.
Roger Matthews
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How the Point got it's name becomes itself a dark question, before it gets seriously tackled on a board. Did a pissed student on an Adelaide Uni expedition, obsessed with guilt for having the hots for his mum, take his last wave at 3am on a frosty winter night. Is this secret known only to a select few? The mind boggles. Up goes the spook factor. This wave must be ridden, it's an omen...s
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Freud comes to the South Coast! Perhaps the student of philosophy who named the point was getting that [i]oceanic feeling[/i] as described by Freud in his seminal Civilization and Its Discontents ?? Though I'm more of a Freudo-Marxist man, myself. Check Marcuse's Eros and Civilization ...it offers real insights into surfing culture...well, after some extrapolation. Kristen Lawler does that heavy lifting in her book The American Surfer: Radical Culture & Capitalism. All recommended for a bit of light reading cruising the Mentawais, say, or holed up at Cactus. Academic discourse, hey? Where's Smux when ya need him?!
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Crikey Angry you've just given me a headache thinking about trying to read said books let alone understanding them ha see ya in indo next week angry brother
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jiminy crickets angry...i juz wanna tow' WIL'
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Zambezi, that last snap you dropped on the forum, looks no heavier than the take off at The Trough. Is this the skilled use of Dutch Angles on the shoot? I think a phony research party from Adelaide Uni, is going to have to make a landing on the Island...s
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Say g'day to Peds at the G from me...I'll be saying g'day to Dr. Stock and my ol' mate Endone. Get some spitting launching cobras on the quad Banksy! Yowza!
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oh yeah, grab a copy of Malcolm Knox's THE LIFE for the down-time. MP = DK...Dennis Keith. Sick read. You too, Mr. Schmucker! You'll diggit!
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For some obscure reading whilst very stoned in Indo, here's the link to that document which amongst other info, names the landmarks on West Island. The maps on about page 12...As you'll see from the map, if Oedipus Point don't take you out, then Toad Head will!!!...s
www.environment.sa.gov.au/.../PARKS_PDFS_ISLD_CP_BACKST_...
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Hey there mr Schmucker, jst wondering if youve done much exploration round the pages islands nth/west of cape willoughby??? you seem to know just bout everything else about the south oz coastline. and jst having a look at their location they would have to be one huge swell magnet!!! jst got me curious and thought you would be a good person to ask
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sorry spun...kept my reply on the tut tut ahem ASK SMUKO....dunno if anyone has found that mysto wave on the floorio yet?? it does exist i'm sure of that...even seen a pic of it the other week!!
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Ok thought id sign up to enter into this thread. I may be letting the cat outta the bag here, haha, but I noticed a righty once that looked good when we were doing the heinous walk from Tunks to boaties along the cliffline. Alt hough it breaks close to rocks it kinda looked surfable. Can anyone confirm? Does anyone have any more clues on where this mysto wave is, even if they are cryptic - is it closer to encounter or jervis? Dont tell me its depledges cos thats a hoax(from what ive seen anyway - although i did hear there was a bit of bodyboarding localism going on there back in the day; if it is might be time for south coast boardriders to claim back whats theirs!). if not, what about bollaparuda?
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j-j if you go back a page or ten you'll see discussion of the beaches West of Parsons has been a pretty controversial subject!! I guess we all know there ain't any undiscovered Angourie Points lurking in those parts. Still, respect where it is due, there are local crew who have rightly questioned open discussion of these quirky, potentially Shot-Gun pellet infested locations. I had to admit being out of the state, and in many ways, off the planet, could make it all too easy for me to be too blaise about unpacking secret-ish spots. Welcome to de forum, maybe is has to be...hard right at the milking shed, quietly goes it past the deranged farmer with the 22, and when you see the deserted farmhouse, Ballaparuda!! you there bro!
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http://ebookbrowse.com/parks-pdfs-isld-cp-backst-p-mp-pdf-d73328305
an interesting read, indeed.
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Great read angry brigade.
Looking at the map though the left to me seems to be more halfway between Lands End and Oedipus Point.
Here's an extract from the PDF you linked to.
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Gotta comment on the cowboy attitude of the mid 60's - "hmmm, should we protect it by creating a reserve, or just use it as target practice and lob shells onto it?". Maybe they should have landed a shell on the rock thats in the wave...
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Cranking information angry. Just went on to google with 'aerial photography south australia'. First listing that comes up is the Department of Environment and Natural Resources website. If you click on their 'Map Finder' link then enter in Victor Harbor, it will link on to an 'Encounter' Topographic map. That puts you over West Island, then you can zoom in closest over the point I've been yet. Worth a peep guys, it's a bonza squiz at the point set up. I swear there are a number of suck rocks sitting off that corner of the island. From picking over the satellite images, it gives me the impression if you take off around the granite boulder, your margin for error could be very slender. I can see the potential for a safer, shoulder section down the line, which tends to sit with reports already about of people 'sort of' riding the wave over the years. Be interested in any other takes after a viewing. Whether the place is even doable remains borderline, if it wasn't in that category it would be a recognised surf break by now...
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Hey guys i'm from victor and make lots of surf videos all along the south coast with Khai Adams, Teale Vanner ect and I thought the people who are interested in West Island lefty might also find my website interesting
www.stateofsurf.com
At the moment we make a video a week and the last couple have been fun secluded south coast spots. We will keep an eye on West Island left and the next big swell get the ski and boat out and make a vid of the boys surfing it! I've seen the place look unreal a few times be a good challenge!
Give everyone what they have been wanting to see!
cheers guys, be great if you check out the site and support us plenty of south aus vids and pics to keep you entertained.
cheers- Andy
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Andy, this is indeed hot news, I was seriously going to put it to the forum tonite whether it would be cool for me to bring in a specialised opinion from big wave crew via Swellnet contacts. It's a long time since I watched the wave from the Kings vantage point, but my question from then, as well as recent scrutiny of aerial photography of the take off zone is still, can the wave be seriously done from the takeoff zone in hefty conditions, or is the margin too slim, allowing arseing around on the shoulder only. You guys sound serious about what you do, be interested to see what you turn up. Yeah, no one rides it at the mo, but the Pipe went a long time before it got ridden too. Definitely be up for a gander at your website, cheers s
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Good points there S. It will be interesting once we get close and have a look. I'm sure from what iv seen in the past that its surf-able. But like you say the question will be paddle or tow? Are there crazy submerged bolders? and most importantly how barreled will the boys get!? I know Khai would give it a crack he's not the sort to shoulder hop.
We will keep an eye on the reports, and when the right swell comes and its going to happen ill make sure that we capture it all. Keep your eyes on this forum and www.stateofsurf.com i'll let you know how we go!
Could be in a week, could be in a month but its got to be done!
cheers. Andy
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Found this photo while digging around for information on the '75 Australian Titles.
It shows the Victorian team at The Dump.
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Looks like the breakwall is still there off Granite Island.
I heard that this was built after, and "blocks" swell but I don't think it is long enough to have any major influence on the incoming SW-SSW groundswells.
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can anyone i.d. any of the victorian team ? is that brutus cole on the far right ?[minus the 70s goatee]
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Craig,
The building of the breakwall was started in 1875. The photo is from the 1975 Australian Titles, 100 years later.
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...if anyone can turn up footage of The Dump before 1875 to test the hypothesis of swell blocking, I'll streak in my birthday suit through the nunnery of your choice, while it's still winter...
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i havent got the issue but i remember a couple of lines from a poem (yes really) someone wrote in a tracks article about the 1975 titles- "the shitty old dump, it turned on" and "smithy caught one 12 foot high, and thats not one word a lie"- col smith rip
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I remember the pics of Col Smith on a triple overhead left way out the back at the dump, I'm still calling it the biggest wave I've seen ridden on the South coast.I remember checking it that morning and it was one big close out right across from the dump to Chiton,Seal rocks was completely disappearing under swells.Ian Kanga Cairns fresh from winning in huge Hawaiin surf spent his whole heat trying to get out the back.I still reckon it was a once in ten years swell despite everyone saying it was just a normal swell. Speaking of break-walls Ive heard there was a nice right point at Pt. Elliot before the rock-wall went in there.
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Yeah, I think I got my dates wrong by a century Zambezi :p
And I think the Port Elliot breakwall would of been created in a similar period old-dog? Back in the whaling times to protect the small Jetty and wharf.
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@craig Yeah it was pre-surfing but Roger Matthews once showed me some grainy old b&w archive photos clearly showing rights peeling along the point and no breakwall.It looked like a nice little set-up.
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On the subject of the breakwall at Port Elliot, why not start a local action group to have the bastard dismantled? Can't think it's doing anything now except blocking modest swell into H-Bay. No reason it shouldn't be fashioned back as it was into the 'Port Elliot Surfing Reserve'. Local lads be challenged to think big in your surfing interests, it would also be a hot tourist drawcard..."The Point they claimed back from the Whaling Industry"...Andy Manners and the crew, still tossing in the first $100 to see footage of the West Island left being ridden. It may not cover medical expenses, but it'll cover the first few rounds at 'The Crown' after the session, s...
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hmmmmm it broke again recently. any one on it?
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Nah I just shred the gnar on the interwebs and forums bro. Does that make me a surfer?
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Yep got a few hacks in this morning, how bout yourself, I'm guessing you didn't get out for a paddle fish boy?
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@ angelakisbros & craig
Are you both hacks? Sound like 8yo's!
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Spunoutagnes - mate its not such a good idea to remove the Horseshoe Bay breakwater. It protects the only real safe swimming beach on the south coast which is a huge tourist drawcard, much bigger than any engineered surf break there could ever be. Anyway the breakwater would be classified as a heritage structure with no chance of approvals ever being given to alter or remove it. It was built to protect the harbour anchorages. Horeshoe Bay was a major sailing ship port in the 1850's, after multiple shipwrecks the port was eventually closed. The mooring anchor chains still lie on the seabed inwards from the Sisters Rocks in the middle of the bay.
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In Victa Ricta for a week visiting my folks. Caught up today with an old friend who lives here and checked Waits (too raw and rippy), Kings (too small) and ended up surfing Petties (too closey). Almost, but not quite - true to form...
Anyhoo, conversation turned to the West Island Left and he told me he had surfed it with a mate of his who has a jet ski. This was a handful of years ago now. It was his first and only go at tow surfing so far and they actually went out to surf shark alley but got a few at the left first. He reckons it was 4-5 foot and sketchy not so much from any boulders in the wave itself but because it breaks so close to the island and bends into it so it always feels like the rocks are right next to you until you get to the deep water at the end of the wave. He rated it a 5/10. Had a much better surf on the alley left.
He also thought that if it was bigger you'd get on it earlier and possibly be a bit wider on take off and better but you'd still be rooted if you screwed the first bit as it'd dry dock you.
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mundies, good onya its taken 39 pages to find out its been surfed, would your buddy sign up to swellnet and give us the spill on the place ?
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mundies, reread your post ,you pretty much gave us the rundown on it .
Daisy, 1437468098
[quote=zambezi]Has the heaving left hander which breaks off the tip of West Island on the Fleurieau Peninsula ever been surfed ? I've heard stories of Wayne Lynch surfing it back in the 70's and Tom Carroll in more recent times. Can anyone confirm this ?[/quote]
Daisy, 1437468323
Hi, I have surfed it a few times, the latest being a couple of years ago off a boat. Its a mother of a wave and the drop is right in front of a big boulder unless its big. Then it breaks further out and wider but with a lot of wave bounce off the island. Not for the faint hearted.
My brother and I also bodysurfed it again off a boat about 3 years ago. I saw the comment about Peter Dunn surfing it - I suspect that is right.
udo, 1437508965
You body surfed West Island left .....Fuckn hell Daisy that's scary.... not the wave but what lurks in those waters...did you see the pic that Craig posted way back { page 2 - gone now] taken from the chopper of the full grown GWS.
EDIT: Just read about P Dunns encounter with a GWS at Waitpinga 2006 on shark attack file , scary.
thermalben, 1437516875
A few mates of mine have surfed it over the years (one of 'em is Dunny), paddling from Kings across the channel. Bugger that!
udo, 1437550968
Craig ,is there any way of re posting the pic of the shark taken from the chopper ?
Craig, 1437552600
Looks like the image was taken down off FB Udo, and I can't see it on the Westpac Choppers page either. Bummer.
zambezi, 1437623904
Daisy, did you get any pics of West Island on your excursions ?
southey, 1448586158
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JJD, 1536451227
At Horseshoe if it's big enough, waves will break on a reef just after the breakwall.
Pupkin, 1585878387
Reading through this thread, did anyone find out if Smux was serious about the secret wave on the Fleurieu he'd motor over for from the west?
And not KI related?
zambezi, 1591685035
I think Jeff got his peninsulas mixed up Pupkin.
What happened to Jeff ? He had a quite high profile on social
media, particularly on Swellnet. I used to enjoy his photography
and comments in the forums. He could be quite amusing.
Now nothing ..... barely a whisper. Did the other West Coast
locals have a quiet word with him ?
Blowin, 1591687726
Perhaps his son’s pro career faded and so did the urge to promote the stage upon which he shined ?
Dale -Cooper, 1591691446
Maybe he's getting more sick waves than all of us on here can even imagine?
And has seen the light!
zambezi, 1592295734
Back to topic for a minute.
Our old house was on Franklin Parade near the Bluff. The block was quite
elevated so we had an uninterrupted view of the coast all the way to the
Victor Harbor township. Every now and then, on a big swell, we could see
this big a-frame wave breaking between the western side of Granite Island
and the Kent Reserve area. From memory, it was about 250 m offshore.
Curiously, it broke parallel with the coast aimed directly at the victor esplanade. We called it Sunsets.
Recently, I had a bit of a dig on the internet and found that the reef is known as Whalebone Reef. It is a popular dive spot, although not when there is a swell running. Can anyone shed some light on this ?
thermalben, 1592296492
If we are talking about the same spot, I reckon that wave used to be called Dry Reef. Never surfed it but fraser-gordon described a particularly filthy session to me a long while back. Looks like there'd be a lot of unusual currents out there.
Bnkref, 1592297551
Has the bombie a few KMs off PE been surfed in recent times (the one towards Victor)? Just next to Seal Island.
Would feel sharky AF out there.
The Fire, 1592310292
Whale Bonez Reef sounds waay fuckinbetter than dry creek reef, imo.
Hahaha
thermalben, 1601015350
Bit of sombre news, but I've recently learnt that Zambesi - who started this wonderful thread more than eight years ago! - passed away last week.
I didn't know him personally, but I'm very grateful for his contributions to the forums.
RIP fella.
Bnkref, 1601022207
Sorry to hear that. He was a great contributor.
Hopefully he's out there somewhere jagging a few like in today's WOTD.
factotum, 1601022594
Nev?