Desert Storm surfboard
Posted elsewhere in 2015..
Yeah one of the oldest photos i have of digital..Have nothing digital from late 90's but heres a more recent shot:
the difference between the 2 pics makes it look to be different person.
no wonder nobody recognised!
the new pic with glasses is a more familiar face, still not enough weight problem to affect riding a Desert Storm board!
Weight problem has faded somewhat camel, thanks too. But still im just better at bodyboarding (than standup) waves like i know you know and surfed around here between gnaraloo and gero...some hollow jacking barrels one is only good up to about 4 foot max but u need to ninja like a cat on a standup shortboard etc..but on a lid it might not go as fast in the pit but i can surf the waves a lot easier as ive been bodyboarding since i was 11.i know you ride a lid too sometimes ive seen footage and think i remember you saying you were inspired by bodyboard lines for that Camel North west cavern video wave...Pretty sure you said something like that.
Heres another one at one of your old haunts, you probably spent more time in the pit here in the 90's than anyone including Slater lol.
udo wrote:Use Carbon Fibre or ABS i think to Print ..Velocity Johnno is the man
Lots playing with allsorts..Boxes Plugs
https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=futures+fin+box&page=1&type=things&...
https://www.swaylocks.com/forum/61337/build-your-own-fin-3d-printable-si...
https://www.swellnet.com/comment/718917
haha cheers Udo. The first 3d printed ones broke on the first bottom turn long ago lol. You can print in polycarb. I've found fins I've machined in polycarb (ie CNC) are 'flexier' than the equivalent thickness standard glass, so I didn't like them. The polycarb was a bitch to machine too, broke lots of bits getting the feed, plunge and machine speeds right. Sheet glass is so much nicer, cuts cooler too all things equal.
The markforged machines can print in the carbon fibre and make a nice fin, but at 20K per machine when I enquired and then ongoing 3d printing filment roll cost$ I figured more cost effective to CNC and lay own glass. Hooray for old tech.
Price Drop...$400 - Fins included.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/surry-hills/surfing/webster-desert-storm...
udo wrote:Price Drop...$400 - Fins included.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/surry-hills/surfing/webster-desert-storm...
Gone in under an hour. You should be on commission.
It’s been 6 days and 1 hour since udo posted ;)
Was a good deal. I would have gone for it if I was closer.
Hoping Blowin got some Bombs on his 7'0 D.S. the last few Days..
udo did Blowin get expelled from SN?
Not sure if expelled or banned or just giving it a rest..
He wrote well but was a bit of a bully and occasionally hypocritical doing the things he wrote people off for- like when i was trying to be discreet about an area and he named one of the surf spots near it.Or hyping gnar bluff area a bit..Anyway i liked his style, seemed like an ex-80's punker with attitude but intelligent and well written posts and stories, surfed good too..
Seemed somehow aware the covid vax was going to be a hoax before most too.I thought "why argue with educated doctors" but now lost faith in medical system a lot..One of my local friends quit being a paramedic driver due to somehow knowing vax was poison, or wasn't going to work as good as they promised- which he was being forced to jab into himself.
In a hundred years people will look back at covid and vax and wonder what the hell was going on.Luckily economy seems to have not suffered at all.
Apologies If repeatiing, an old questions, But after any on the EA quads, for DS.
Picked up a 7'0 of Webby in his christmas sale. I probably wont change the fins around so looking for a recommendation for an all round quad set.
Thanks
400 bucks for a set of Nate Florence “big wave” quad fins!
Do they give you some of his big wave powers with that price?
The g10 fins are all pretty exxy goof
https://sunburntmess.com/products/futures-g10-paddle-gun-quad-fin-set?va...
Wow, that’s almost half the cost of the board
Wouldn’t want to be jumping off the rocks at jaws with them in.
lostdoggy wrote:Wouldn’t want to be jumping off the rocks at jaws with them in.
No danger of that happening ld hahah
Yeh, same obviously , but looks like a pretty hectic rock off for those attempting the paddle.
Hardest rock off ive ever tried is jakes point 3-4 foot plus in a southerly..there is one spot without oyster shells or barnacles that all the locals know since a grommy but guys like me new to town find it hard to locate every time we jump off..50% of the time you then get pinaball machined between the rocks and sets after jumping off and trying not to scratch your fins on the ledges after rock off..
My hardest rock off of anywhere i ve been but haven't surfed lennox.
groundswell you should know the rock off by now, it only takes a few times to learn, Anyways thanks for the photos and details of your history.
K slater goat is not even comparable he only did 2 contests (2 weeks) while I spent 5 seasons there. he even dropped in on me to get the best barrell of his life at the time. on a recent podcast he says I was snaking the pros and nobody liked me -thanks KS, your bro Sean came and hung out smoking bongs with me though.
Whoever had asked about fins for the DS , you forgot to say fcs or futures, I was going to say F4 but who knows if compatible?
fcs big wave fins overpriced BS cost $5 to make in china. g-10 fins cost that much, which are much stronger, how can fcs justify that price?
only kooks would use fcs in a big wave board anyways, obviously paying NF a lot to use them , knowing that they are inferior to what most others are using..
Gumtree - 6'6" DS at Coombabah down to $450 including EA Quad fins
6'2" also $450 inc Bag.
Clam wrote:groundswell you should know the rock off by now, it only takes a few times to learn, Anyways thanks for the photos and details of your history.
K slater goat is not even comparable he only did 2 contests (2 weeks) while I spent 5 seasons there. he even dropped in on me to get the best barrell of his life at the time. .
I wasn't taking the piss out of you- Kelly has probably 2 minutes of barrel time in the 90's at speedies but without trying to sound like a fanboy trying to kiss your ass i absolutely know you spent years there getting and picking the best waves of the swell..I know for a fact you got more barrel time at speedies and moneys than anyone i know while you were in indo and g-land.
By me saying "lol" i meant he might be the goat but he spent most of his time trying to beat everybody else in contests to be number 1 when there are plenty of free surfers, ferals and travellers who rip some learning east javan dialect like you did to live with plengkung locals off dried fish or whatever fish they catch and not getting photos of everything they do..
Also about jakes- its a great wave and some say world class but is not the kind of wave i like to surf often, personally more into other waves more between gero and gnaraloo than jakes and hate the strong current in a southerly at jakes so dont surf it that often.
Also most of the time since ive lived here ive been a bit fat and unfit so dont surf like im 21-30 any more.
Particularly getting to my feet quickly.
So spent more time filming it than surfing it while ive been here.
have still got a 10"5 big wave gun for sale if anyone want a very big thick strong board.
yes the same one I tried to sell during the last 4 years, it's 99 litres
Couldn’t help myself 
6’6” x 20.1/2 x 3. 44 ltrs
Good score Supa
3X DS now....what's the total $ cost ?
udo wrote:Good score Supa
3X DS now....what's the total $ cost ?
$2100 with 2 sets of quad fins and 1board sock thrown in .
6'6" is such a diverse size. Love the outline too.
dandandan wrote:6'6" is such a diverse size. Love the outline too.
I meant useful in a diversity of waves! I use mine in everything from 2 foot to 6-8 foot.
supafreak what fins did you get mate ?
Clam wrote:supafreak what fins did you get mate ?
The 6’6” was second hand and came with EA quads which I will probably sell , I will try them first and see how they feel. Webby gave me a set of the fins he’s making with alkali , I posted a picture a few pages back . I brought a set of futures padillac fins second hand for a good price . The EA are medium as are the padillac but comparing all 3 the EA are largest then the alkali then the padillac which is what I will put on the 7’6” . My 6’10” has fcs2 and I’m using H4s in quads and really impressed. Had some fun waves at overhead kirra and slabbing wall at d- bar last decent swell. 
Alkali under the padillac front and rears 
EA under the alkali rears
Could be Fun in a D.S.
udo wrote:Could be Fun in a D.S.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CpIlzreNzb_/
I’ve got a 6’10 Desert Twin, which after watching that video is tempting to give those fins a try…
udo wrote:Could be Fun in a D.S.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CpIlzreNzb_/
I’ve got a 6’10 Desert Twin, which after watching that video is tempting to give those fins a try…
Since we're on the topic of fins plus a renewed interest from new DS owners I'll give an update on my journey thus far. Surfed my black friday DS 6'8 for the last swell late Jan/Feb from recollection. Firstly the board, wowza! It's an added confidence. If I'm usually say 6/10 at 8 foot, now I'm 8/10. All of a sudden after the bombs instead of being a little hesitant. Now Fins. I bought stretch quads on marketpkace and usually surf thrusters so cannot say weather it's specifically the board or the fins(or both) but I now understand "rhino" chaser. The amount of momentum was phenomenal, so much so that I outran the barrel at times and played with various stalling options which was fun in itself...
The turning circle was a bit drawn out or sticky as you're flying down the line I guess and have now purchased some small quad rears (with 80/20foil) to tweak further. To be continued...
Happy to grab the EAs off you Supafreak whenever ready to sell/post. Building a collection of futures now... haha
Doublems111 wrote:Happy to grab the EAs off you Supafreak whenever ready to sell/post. Building a collection of futures now... haha
Haven’t tried then yet , been out of the water for 3 weeks, had a 3 way collision in the surf and did some rib damage, hoping to have a surf on tomorrow’s pulse . I will let you know. What area are you in ? I’m in tweed heads.
Doublems111 wrote:Since we're on the topic of fins plus a renewed interest from new DS owners I'll give an update on my journey thus far. Surfed my black friday DS 6'8 for the last swell late Jan/Feb from recollection. Firstly the board, wowza! It's an added confidence. If I'm usually say 6/10 at 8 foot, now I'm 8/10. All of a sudden after the bombs instead of being a little hesitant. Now Fins. I bought stretch quads on marketpkace and usually surf thrusters so cannot say weather it's specifically the board or the fins(or both) but I now understand "rhino" chaser. The amount of momentum was phenomenal, so much so that I outran the barrel at times and played with various stalling options which was fun in itself...
The turning circle was a bit drawn out or sticky as you're flying down the line I guess and have now purchased some small quad rears (with 80/20foil) to tweak further. To be continued...
Good feeling, aye!
Best of luck on your fin/fun/solid wave quest. I'm about to buy a set of the Stretch quads myself - on sale at my local shop.
Supafreak wrote:Doublems111 wrote:Happy to grab the EAs off you Supafreak whenever ready to sell/post. Building a collection of futures now... haha
Haven’t tried then yet , been out of the water for 3 weeks, had a 3 way collision in the surf and did some rib damage, hoping to have a surf on tomorrow’s pulse . I will let you know. What area are you in ? I’m in tweed heads.
Thanks IB, yeah it's real fun. Stoked to have stretch quads, feels like a solid set to have for multiple options. Like the MF's for fcs kind of thing. A good all rounder.
I'm in Burleigh SupaF. No rush at all, just beats listing them; whenever you're ready...
@doublems , ok cool
Supafreak wrote:Clam wrote:supafreak what fins did you get mate ?
The 6’6” was second hand and came with EA quads which I will probably sell , I will try them first and see how they feel. Webby gave me a set of the fins he’s making with alkali , I posted a picture a few pages back . I brought a set of futures padillac fins second hand for a good price . The EA are medium as are the padillac but comparing all 3 the EA are largest then the alkali then the padillac which is what I will put on the 7’6” . My 6’10” has fcs2 and I’m using H4s in quads and really impressed. Had some fun waves at overhead kirra and slabbing wall at d- bar last decent swell.
thanks supafreak,
the pyzel have dual foils and may not be so good in small waves , they are for high speeds , not for generating speed
Doublems111 wrote:Since we're on the topic of fins plus a renewed interest from new DS owners I'll give an update on my journey thus far. Surfed my black friday DS 6'8 for the last swell late Jan/Feb from recollection. Firstly the board, wowza! It's an added confidence. If I'm usually say 6/10 at 8 foot, now I'm 8/10. All of a sudden after the bombs instead of being a little hesitant. Now Fins. I bought stretch quads on marketpkace and usually surf thrusters so cannot say weather it's specifically the board or the fins(or both) but I now understand "rhino" chaser. The amount of momentum was phenomenal, so much so that I outran the barrel at times and played with various stalling options which was fun in itself...
The turning circle was a bit drawn out or sticky as you're flying down the line I guess and have now purchased some small quad rears (with 80/20foil) to tweak further. To be continued...
great plan, because the stretch rear fins are fairly large and you could loosen up with the smaller rear size 80/20s
those grey alkali fins webby has are the first batch made of my template that I was riding in the last ~ 6 years, they have small rear fins and worked good for me until I started playing with different fin sizes, I'm trying new sizes in the last year or two.
I'm using a more balanced size fin fronts and rears, a bit smaller fronts and a bit bigger in rear, but not actually bigger in the back and smaller in the front. I just mean a bit more than the template webby has in stock. following the Hawaiians ,like kai lenny who has for real "bigger rear and smaller fronts"
if your ordering a DS be sure to ask for round safety nose, otherwise by default it will be a pointed nose tip.
The majority want pointed nose. so be sure to specify you need a safe nose. with a DS board this big and heavy you should have the nose tip safe. it actually bothers me that my design has been changed to a sharp point on them. : disclaimer
Got my DS.
7'2x 20x 3 1/4 49.5lt. I'd post a photo, but can't for the life of me work out how to do that here... Regardless it looks amazing.
Was over $500 to get it through customs on top of the $600 freight to get over from Oz. So keep that in mind NZ crew looking to get one. Next time I'll fly over and pick it up!
First surf was a bit weird. 6ft plus at a local deepwater bombie that moves A LOT of water.
Just on dark, slightly stormy, fresh choppy swell, overcast with just me out. Spooky to say the least, so I wasn't in the most relaxed mood. Paddles smaller than I thought it would with zero issues duck diving. With the thickness even at 20 wide sitting on it was surprisingly rocky.
Anyways, paddled no worries in, but with the forward volume I found myself lying further up on the board and jumping up a little too far forward and having to shuffle back to get a bottom turn in. This with the fact the wave has a steep take off that morphs into a fat section where you bottom turn had me regretting surfing it as a quad. To be fair I wasnt in a relaxed headspace and was needing a buddy out there, so it was a bit of a straight-up, no-frills, 4 waves and get the fuck in surf.
I want to try it again at this wave as a thruster. It's my first board with Futures (Impressed, makes way more sense than FCS} so will buy a thruster set. The other wave I got it for is a faster down-the-line wave which I know will appreciate the quad. (Pyzels Quads BTW}
Webster recommended the Tokoro's so will probably give them a shot.
Thoughts on fin sizing for a board of this size? I usually roll with large fins but thinking dropping down the mediums might be wise.
But there you go, first surf done and dusted with a burning desire to get it in the water again!
Whats with the $500 Customs Charge ?
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"Desert Storm" shaped by Wayne Webster
Ridden and designed by the "Camel"