Mainstream Media Vs the culture of resuuuuurch.
Should've guessed, crew here are all over it. Good people
Aye, couple caveats required haha
The state of journalism in Australia this election has hit a new level.
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— Kenny Devine (@TheKennyDevine) May 7, 2022
Sick to death of these useless journos endlessly poking around for a gotcha moment. Are they on some kind of bonus scheme.. an extra $200 in their pay packet if they catch a minister off guard? FFS.
How about some real questions about real issues so we know who to vote for in two weeks time?
And now the ABC has run a story on it. Aren't they supposed to be biased to the left?
'Women don't do well holding on': Albanese says Labor MP's 2011 tweet not appropriate https://t.co/3T4NJOWCpL
— ABC News (@abcnews) May 7, 2022
thermalben wrote:Sick to death of these useless journos endlessly poking around for a gotcha moment. Are they on some kind of bonus scheme.. an extra $200 in their pay packet if they catch a minister off guard? FFS.
How about some real questions about real issues so we know who to vote for in two weeks time?
This is how people become journalists these days
Ridiculous.
Journalism is going to have to save itself — because the way it’s going, frankly it’s done for
Dear media colleagues, please stop fiddling while democracy burns. Otherwise, our profession is doomed — and will deserve to be. https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/05/09/journalism-must-save-itself/. https://www.meaa.org/mediaroom/truth-versus-disinformation-the-challenge... https://www.meaa.org/meaa-media/code-of-ethics/
Supafreak wrote:Journalism is going to have to save itself — because the way it’s going, frankly it’s done for
Dear media colleagues, please stop fiddling while democracy burns. Otherwise, our profession is doomed — and will deserve to be. https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/05/09/journalism-must-save-itself/. https://www.meaa.org/mediaroom/truth-versus-disinformation-the-challenge... https://www.meaa.org/meaa-media/code-of-ethics/
Ha ha how ironic a Crikey article about how Journalism has gone to the dogs.
Cmon now Indo, don’t be bitter just because you don’t understand.
Jeez, I expect that reporter is pretty embarrassed in retrospect.
At least you’d hope so.
what a crock of shit
little pauly whinging because he doesn't like the tone of questioning
sheeeez, the authoritarian censorious tendencies run deep amongst some...
pathetic
fuck i hope, wish, and pray everyday clowns like you don't get too close to any real power
whoops too late
nothing personal
but...
Every single one of you was played for a fool. Get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable was a lie. Something that some of us told you for 2 years.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/pfizer-did-not-kno...
I don't know ,Burleigh man, I mean, I don't trust MSM man, they lie, do your research before believing that article man, what's the motives behind that from news.com, where's the money, which elite approved that article to be released? Wake up.
Stok wrote:I don't know ,Burleigh man, I mean, I don't trust MSM man, they lie, do your research before believing that article man, what's the motives behind that from news.com, where's the money, which elite approved that article to be released? Wake up.
They are late with this story, and a massive part of the problem to begin with. I think its pretty funny they are now doing this.
And Stok, you were part of the problem on here too. I guess you will never admit you were fooled, but deep down you know.
The unvaccinated were ( and are ) literally the most persecuted and discriminated against demographic in modern Australia and every flimsy rational for this discrimination has been revealed to be outright lies and rubbish perpetuated by the highest authorities in the land.
But Stok thinks it’s all cool, bro! So I guess we just pretend it didn’t happen ….and isn’t still happening!
burleigh wrote:Every single one of you was played for a fool. Get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable was a lie. Something that some of us told you for 2 years.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/pfizer-did-not-kno...
burleigh didn’t know and never had evidence. burleigh was simply anti vax everything. With more info coming into the public domain it doesn’t prove the anti vax crowd actually knew anything.
burleigh is the kind that gets up in the morning and opens the curtains and screams “there’s ganna be a violent storm” 1 day there is a storm and burleigh says, I told you.
“Burleigh didn’t know and never had evidence. “
What?!?!? Everyone that was vaccinated was still catching virus and this was happening since day 1 of the rollout. It was obvious to everyone who hadn’t joyfully swallowed so much propaganda they needed their stomach pumped that this was the case.
“ Breakthrough infection”……lololololololololololol
Think about that for a second. The entire concept of breakthrough infection predicates that the vaccine prevented infection…which it never did and was never intended to do. Did this stop every medical authority in the world dribbling about Breakthrough Infections? No….because they assumed the higher ups in their hierarchy of authority wouldn’t lie to their faces about such an important issue. They were wrong to assume.
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:“Burleigh didn’t know and never had evidence. “
What?!?!? Everyone that was vaccinated was still catching virus and this was happening since day 1 of the rollout. It was obvious to everyone who hadn’t joyfully swallowed so much propaganda they needed their stomach pumped that this was the case.
“ Breakthrough infection”……lololololololololololol
another blowinKaren that knew everything with his internet medical degree.
@indo this ones for you , it’s from one of your favourite Drs for covid information.
Roadkill- Obviously my first thought was to grant you the takedown you so richly deserve. Instead I’d like it if you could answer a question for me.
It’s now openly admitted that the vaccines were never designed , intended or tested to prevent infection or transmission of the virus, yet everyone in authority still acted as though it was. There was a huge lie perpetrated on Australia and the world. People who were not vaccinated were fired from working in hospitals whilst they were in the full emergency of the virus. People in the military, first response teams and police were fired if they didn’t get vaccinated under the authority that without vaccination they would act as conduits for the virus. People were legally denied entering venues if they weren’t vaccinated. People weren’t allowed to visit dying relatives in hospital if they weren’t vaccinated because they might spread the virus where vaccinated people could not. Australians couldn’t leave or enter the country, couldn’t work in government jobs, couldn’t work on amine site or many, many other occupations…in many cases the unvaccinated still can’t find employment.
The entire justification for this was because the unvaccinated might spread the virus whereas the vaccinated would not. This is a proven lie. After a while this lie was hedged into “ the vaccinated are less likely to spread the virus”. . This was also a lie.
These lies were told to the Australian population by Prime Ministers, Presidents, the heads of national and state medical authorities. They all lied. Some were repeating the lie unknowingly but they were themselves lied to by someone that knew the information was false and fraudulent.
Every part of this was based on a lie. A 100% untruth. A fiction .
How did this lie become the basis for legal persecution and discrimination of millions of otherwise innocent Australians? Why did this lie become the basis for the legal persecution and discrimination of millions of Australians?
Will we ever get answers to these incredibly important questions?
People such as Stok seem to think that these questions aren’t important. This I find just as hard to understand. This is the perpetration of one of the greatest frauds the world has ever seen. A fraud that altered the world beyond comprehension. It didn’t just cost our society billions and billions of dollars , it completely undermined any credibility the government or other once respected institutions previously relied upon to successfully carry out their roles.
Who gave the green light for this nation-scale lie to be played out on Australia?
@ Supa
Great so basically nothing has changed Ivermectin still doesn't do much for Covid.
Why are we even talking about Covid anyway? havent we all had enough of it.
indo-dreaming wrote:@ Supa
Great so basically nothing has changed Ivermectin still doesn't do much for Covid.
Why are we even talking about Covid anyway? havent we all had enough of it.
Because it was the greatest fraud perpetrated in modern times. Up there with fraudulent justification for the Iraq war which killed millions and destroyed nations. And not one person has come to justice for either.
If you don’t understand why this might be incredibly important to you and everyone you know for both now and into the future , then best you hurry back to watching MasterChef because it seems that not much of anything matters to you at all.
indo-dreaming wrote:@ Supa
Great so basically nothing has changed Ivermectin still doesn't do much for Covid.
Why are we even talking about Covid anyway? havent we all had enough of it.
So you watched the clip indo ? Start to finish ? hmmmm
Roadkill wrote:burleigh is the kind that gets up in the morning and opens the curtains and screams “there’s ganna be a violent storm” 1 day there is a storm and burleigh says, I told you.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
I know you’re not going to admit you were fooled, but we know, and you do to.
Don’t forget you were the one who said if an unvaccinated person gives your mum covid and she dies you want them charged with her death.
You came to this delusional thought because governments and media lied and told you that the vaccine prevented transmission. The constant ads on the radio, signs and tv got into your head. You believed that an unvaccinated person was selfish.
Now Pfizer confirms they did not test AT ALL for transmission before releasing to the market.
You were lied to, they made a fool out of you. Now is your chance to admit it.
Breakthrough infections my ass.
Arse, Burleigh, in Australia it's arse.
You still want to trust the science, government and MSM?
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:@ Supa
Great so basically nothing has changed Ivermectin still doesn't do much for Covid.
Why are we even talking about Covid anyway? havent we all had enough of it.
Because it was the greatest fraud perpetrated in modern times. Up there with fraudulent justification for the Iraq war which killed millions and destroyed nations. And not one person has come to justice for either.
If you don’t understand why this might be incredibly important to you and everyone you know for both now and into the future , then best you hurry back to watching MasterChef because it seems that not much of anything matters to you at all.
You mean Covid overall or way media and leaders spread a narrative about Vaccines preventing transmission?
I dont think Covid itself was a hoax, i think the first two strains were very different to Omicron and the world had to initially take the approach we did especially with it evolving as it did, i think we are just very lucky it evolved into Omicron which was really a best case scenario.
In regard to narrative around transmission and vax preventing transmission, i agree with your post above the media (especially places like ABC) and leaders and government seemed to run with this narrative if your not vaxed you posed a risk to others, its weird because even the vaccine companies weren't pushing this angle and it wasn't adding up here Covid was spreading like wildfire while vax rates were high.
Anyway two years of talking about it is enough for me i just feel burnt out on the issue and just glad we have got to where we have which feels like an end point of sorts, that said id still like to know where it really came from, i want answers and closure on that aspect but doubt we ever will get it.
BTW. I dont watch or like master chef, i can watch most reality TV i will even admit to watching farmer wants a wife, but people cooking, pass.
Supafreak wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:@ Supa
Great so basically nothing has changed Ivermectin still doesn't do much for Covid.
Why are we even talking about Covid anyway? havent we all had enough of it.
So you watched the clip indo ? Start to finish ? hmmmm
Honestly i got bored after a few minutes tried pushing thorough and made it about half way.
Im pretty sure nothing has changed it was clearly infective in preventing or dealing with Covid two years ago and still is today.
Burleigh broken record bed wetter still flogging a dead horse long after the world has moved on. Alex Jones says ass so it must be right.
burleigh still clutching at straws.
looks out window and screams…theres a bad storm coming… 789 mornings later a storm comes.
I told you I told you I told you….yada yada yada
old-dog wrote:Burleigh broken record bed wetter still flogging a dead horse long after the world has moved on. Alex Jones says ass so it must be right.
Yep, and It’s great to have moved on…everyone should get on with life.
indo-dreaming wrote:Supafreak wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:@ Supa
Great so basically nothing has changed Ivermectin still doesn't do much for Covid.
Why are we even talking about Covid anyway? havent we all had enough of it.
So you watched the clip indo ? Start to finish ? hmmmm
Honestly i got bored after a few minutes tried pushing thorough and made it about half way.
Im pretty sure nothing has changed it was clearly infective in preventing or dealing with Covid two years ago and still is today.
Ok so it was ineffective in India , US , Japan etc etc and the doctors that used it in a combination therapy were just grifters out somehow rort the system with a fake remedy, roger that . Borody said from day one that covid easily treated with his combination therapy. Covid changed and as it did doctors changed the therapy to combat new varients , it was never just ivermectin on its own but that’s not how trials work . If you watch the last few minutes of that video you might get a chuckle, that’s if you understand the meaning behind his message . Just recently as last night on the news , Mercks wonder cure for covid treatment copped some poor publicity https://www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2441 The last government had no hesitation in buying this scam
old-dog wrote:Burleigh broken record bed wetter still flogging a dead horse long after the world has moved on. Alex Jones says ass so it must be right.
By you moving on allows the governments and big pharma to continue with the bullshit propaganda.
They lied, big time, you now know but don’t want to talk about it.
That’s exactly what governments want and expected.
Next time listen to the silenced experts.
indo-dreaming wrote:Supafreak wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:@ Supa
Great so basically nothing has changed Ivermectin still doesn't do much for Covid.
Why are we even talking about Covid anyway? havent we all had enough of it.
So you watched the clip indo ? Start to finish ? hmmmm
Honestly i got bored after a few minutes tried pushing thorough and made it about half way.
Im pretty sure nothing has changed it was clearly infective in preventing or dealing with Covid two years ago and still is today.
No Indo. You’re wrong.
https://theintercept.com/2022/10/10/covid-republican-democrat-deaths/?ut...
Every cloud has a silver lining.
batfink wrote:https://theintercept.com/2022/10/10/covid-republican-democrat-deaths/?ut...
Every cloud has a silver lining.
Lololol
You were and are a Covid Brownshirt bloke. You should be hanging your head in shame , not continuing to flaunt your mental inadequacy.
You were told to get an injection to help stop the spread. We all were . It was the official government line. This claim is now finally revealed to be officially fraudulent.
Officially fraudulent.
The sooner you realise your issue is with the people who lied to you ( the government) as opposed to the people who said the government were lying, the sooner you’ll realise that your determination to win cheap internet point scoring games undermined your ability to think clearly. The truth is now indisputable. It is not in contention. It is time you reassessed your worldview. The “vaccines” don’t reduce or prevent infection or transmission and they never did.
When you were scolding people online because they were threatening the vulnerable and weak by not getting vaccinated you were perpetuating a lie you’d been told. When you supported unvaccinated people being segregated from society and denied employment, even denied visiting dying relatives in hospital, you were repeating a lie like a silly parrot. Time to wake up from your hypnotic state.
The government is not your friend. You are not the friend of people who rightfully don’t trust the government.
A smarter bloke would be rethinking their position now that it’s proven everything you believed was a lie. Not you it seems.
BTW…Did you even read your own article? I’m not surprised that someone as dim as yourself would initially think there was anything in it beyond a wistful headline. Bit I’d hoped you’d finally figure it out before you posted it. Nope. You can’t bat ….and you can’t bowl.
Just chill DSDS. You've got no idea, yet you're saying you're sure it's all a lie?
Funnily enough, your opinion is shared by the most profoundly dumb, opportunistic loudmouths all over the world. And their content, their messages, are simply designed to enrage, unravel and get under the skin of confused, angry, fearful and straight up selfish fuckers who never in their life have come close to having to make actual critical decisions based on years of gathered expertise and experience in the field of medical science. Yet these gullible fools prance around spouting how they all know better than the truckloads upon truckloads of actual subject matter experts because some obscure Dr somewhere said something that was dumbed down to the point of it just being entertainment value only.
Recognising your own limitations of knowledge should be high on your list of life goals. Because clearly you're still approaching the top of that Dunning Kruger peak.
Pfizer: "No, our vaccine does not stop transmission, and was not tested for that"
But you're a conspiracy theorist and granny killer for restating this. Good grief.
Stok wrote:Just chill DSDS. You've got no idea, yet you're saying you're sure it's all a lie?
Funnily enough, your opinion is shared by the most profoundly dumb, opportunistic loudmouths all over the world. And their content, their messages, are simply designed to enrage, unravel and get under the skin of confused, angry, fearful and straight up selfish fuckers who never in their life have come close to having to make actual critical decisions based on years of gathered expertise and experience in the field of medical science. Yet these gullible fools prance around spouting how they all know better than the truckloads upon truckloads of actual subject matter experts because some obscure Dr somewhere said something that was dumbed down to the point of it just being entertainment value only.
Recognising your own limitations of knowledge should be high on your list of life goals. Because clearly you're still approaching the top of that Dunning Kruger peak.
The biggest gullible fool is you Stok.
Pfizer lied, TGA lied, premiers lied, doctors lied and our prime minister lied EVERY SINGLE DAY to everyday Australians about transmissions, they continued with “breakthrough infections” then continued by saying that strain has changed and that’s why it’s transmitting through vaccinated people (a very convenient lie)
Even blind Freddy could see from the beginning they were lying.
Some experts called them on it, they were silenced through the media and their names dragged through the mud.
All doctors were silenced by ATAGI. They were not allowed to speak.
Young fit healthy people got injected to “help the community” on these lies.
People died from the vaccine. MANY people had adverse reactions.
Yet you want to stay here and defend the lies?
I’m not going to defend the pig pharma , however Trump was putting pressure on them to hurry up with a vaccine as he had an election coming up and needed a win . Governments ( Australia included ) assured everyone that no corners were cut in providing these vaccines. It will be interesting to see what else comes to light over the coming weeks, months, years . Thankfully Pfizer no longer has 75 years to release all their data .
Hopefully jail time and the record breaking fines will be coming for these criminals
Sticking up for your hero Alex Jones, backing the wrong horse pal.
The main thing the (sane) world learnt from the pandemic is that about 3% of the population are delusional fools living in an alternate reality, slaves to their political extreme right conspiracy puppet masters and preferring their "own truth" to the actual truth. These smug narcissists are well represented on this forum. Cheers.
burleigh wrote:Stok wrote:Just chill DSDS. You've got no idea, yet you're saying you're sure it's all a lie?
Funnily enough, your opinion is shared by the most profoundly dumb, opportunistic loudmouths all over the world. And their content, their messages, are simply designed to enrage, unravel and get under the skin of confused, angry, fearful and straight up selfish fuckers who never in their life have come close to having to make actual critical decisions based on years of gathered expertise and experience in the field of medical science. Yet these gullible fools prance around spouting how they all know better than the truckloads upon truckloads of actual subject matter experts because some obscure Dr somewhere said something that was dumbed down to the point of it just being entertainment value only.
Recognising your own limitations of knowledge should be high on your list of life goals. Because clearly you're still approaching the top of that Dunning Kruger peak.
The biggest gullible fool is you Stok.
Pfizer lied, TGA lied, premiers lied, doctors lied and our prime minister lied EVERY SINGLE DAY to everyday Australians about transmissions, they continued with “breakthrough infections” then continued by saying that strain has changed and that’s why it’s transmitting through vaccinated people (a very convenient lie)
Even blind Freddy could see from the beginning they were lying.
Some experts called them on it, they were silenced through the media and their names dragged through the mud.
All doctors were silenced by ATAGI. They were not allowed to speak.
Young fit healthy people got injected to “help the community” on these lies.
People died from the vaccine. MANY people had adverse reactions.
Yet you want to stay here and defend the lies?
"Recognising your own limitations of knowledge should be high on your list of life goals"
So true...burleigh should take note.
old-dog wrote:Sticking up for your hero Alex Jones, backing the wrong horse pal.
The main thing the (sane) world learnt from the pandemic is that about 3% of the population are delusional fools living in an alternate reality, slaves to their political extreme right conspiracy puppet masters and preferring their "own truth" to the actual truth. These smug narcissists are well represented on this forum. Cheers.
You're ok with the lies told Olddog?
So when the international marketing director at Pfizer admits under oath that the vaccines were never designed or tested in preventing transmission or infection, you’ve got to have a medical degree to realise that Scomo telling you to “get jabbed so you don’t spread it to the elderly and vulnerable “ was pure fraudulent bullshit?
Sure bloke.
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"The main thing the (sane) world learnt from the pandemic is that about 3% of the population are delusional fools living in an alternate reality, "
For sure, and the problem is, it's becoming normalised and even cool in some circles to have ridiculous conspiracy theory views.
So now we have the delusional and stupid, the 'epistemological hipsters" and the plain baffled and confused all feeding off each other and growing in numbers (for the time being).
Fun times!
Just browsing the online shitrag that is News.com today and came across this article on the Queen and how it was portrayed she was using Ivermectin, when according to the article she wasn't. Note the language used..particularly the use of the word 'dangerous'.
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/channel-9-apolo...
Then i looked up an article about Ivermectin pre Covid and found this one...
https://www.isglobal.org/en/healthisglobal/-/custom-blog-portlet/ivermec...
Note the line: "Because of its excellent safety profile and broad spectrum of activity, ivermectin is catalogued by the World Health Organisation as an essential medicine and is regarded by many as a "magic bullet" for global health."
Alot of talk on these forums lately is about trusting the science, listening to the experts, most of which use the big media giants as their platforms to broadcast information. If you choose to question what is pumped out adnauseum to you these days you're labelled a tin foil hatter, a conspiracy theorist and accused of posting misinformation.
I just wonder what other peoples thoughts are on the media narrative as opposed to doing your own research. I once trusted the media alot more, however in this day and age, when we have soooo much information available at the touch of a keypad, some false, some verifiable, it's hard to trust the media when you can easily catch them out in blatant lies, or at the very least, misleading the public as shown above.
Anyway, that's my thoughts. Wondering on others. Just gonna read, not going to chirp in on this one.