The MTB Thread

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stunet started the topic in Monday, 9 May 2022 at 11:08am

I've been meaning to start a mountain biking thread for a while and now is as good a time as any.

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nickca Friday, 20 May 2022 at 9:02pm

What’s to lose? I’ve had an average bikes for years ie $1500 new Merida and Giant and always good for a ride around the shell grit trails on the Bellarine and a surf check. The missus the same. I’ll open myself up to ridicule but prior to that had a $400 Huffy from Kmart did the the job, admiddedly wasn’t crashing berms jumps etc. Rode that Merida to work 200 days a year as well.Plenty of onshore days when it’s a great option to get out and about. Seems to be quite a few options about second hand as I’m observing a massive trend toward electric assistance with some of the older crew and the other recreational riders. And good on them for continuing to get out and about. Truthfully like surf craft as you evolve so will your machine. Happy Trails…

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Plasticspastic Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 2:16pm

fellow MTBr's how has the last couple of months treated your pieces of dirt? Have had the majority of recent races (MTB rogaine) cancelled due to track degradation. currently in SE QLD Kooralbyn, Mt Joyce, Goolman, hiddenvale all closed and needing a fair bit of repair.. local trails Nerang and Border trails bared up reasonablly well.

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mitchvg Thursday, 2 Jun 2022 at 8:49pm

Too many dry spells in the wet season up here for good digging conditions, but may has been good.
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Plasticspastic Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 8:45am

sweet. where are you again Mitchvg? - alot of our trails are still drying out..

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groundswell Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 9:16am

When I lived on the east coast i hated mountains when walking to the bus stop or train station but loved all the tracks for mtb's..i lived in a very hilly area without much traffic so could skate and bomb steep long hills at night coming home from work, straight through round a bouts without traffic coming. But moving here everything's flat pretty much...no such thing as mountain bike tracks in much of coastal WA. Maybe there is in the hilly areas inland but nothing near the coast.
Anyway its something i miss now.
WA has good weather for mountain biking, its sunny ninety percent of the time.

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spidermonkey Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 10:14am

Mitchvg, looks like Smithfield. Rainforest and red dirt?

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stunet Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 11:22am

Spicy run out after the drop, hey Mitch?

Dirt looks good, like a clay tennis court. Way different to what we get here.

I've been building an uptrack when the surf is flat on weekends. Not much excitement or allure in building up tracks but it's gotta be done as the current ones are old downhill tracks and are straight lines and rutted out, crying out for rehab. So I've been benching and back filling the climbs, building switchbacks, and linking nice parts of bushland, a cabbage palm here, a large moss-covered rock there.

Drove past these the other day and pulled over to grab them. Not sure what I can use them on but it's good to have a stockpile. Fully treated, 100mm dia, three or so metres long. Ended up with three car loads.



 

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 11:56am

Pretty sure those posts are over $20 each at Bunnings.

Nice score.

Reminds me of Rodney Rude describing his love of doing stock take at his work. He used to take a fuck of a load of stock!

Uphill track rehab= only for the true believers. How long before a track or section of is named after you?

What would be your preferred name for the track?

Nettle’s descent?

Stuart’s shoot?

Fuck…just realised that I’m talking about MTB like my non surfer friends talk about surfing ie want to be interested in my passion but no real understanding.

“Did you have a nice swim today ?” It’s not swimming mate, it’s surfing.

Anyway….Fo you MTB riders have “handles” like the pilots at Top Gun?

Do you become a bunch of Mavericks and Icemen when you hit the mountain?

Do crew get unknowingly gifted nicknames like in surfing where crew don’t realise that they’re known amongst others in the lineup by names such as Punching Bag, Sea Hag and Criminal?

Do you critique each other’s styles and courage?

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stunet Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 12:07pm

Not really. But then most of the guys I ride with are, like me, of limited ability.

Spose it's like the playground, you find the kids of equal social standing and hang with them.

No nicknames either, though our group does have an informal nickname that relates more to drinking than riding. There's another crew around here, a bit older, some gun riders too, and they also have an informal nickname that relates to their crotchety and curmugeonly countenance.

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mitchvg Saturday, 4 Jun 2022 at 11:28am

Haha yeah there's more group nicknames than anything. But yeah those posts might be good water bars for the DH tracks. Cut some grooves in for traction. Water is the biggest problem up here, not Smithfield but not far from there. I've given up on proper drainage right now. I'm just gonna let the river (water rut) flow and make sure it ends up in the creek at the bottom, not on the road. But yeah I try and build a few crucial features like catch berms and water diversions, then leave the rest pretty raw. Even though we have amazing soil and annual rainfall, it's hard to rely just on the rain to make proper dirt jumps and high walled berms, etc. Fine drizzle has a very fine line between being not enough to soak freshly dug up dirt, to quickly oversaturating the mud and not having it stick or pack.

The awesome thing about sand tracks though Stu is they get better in the wet! I'd be careful of building a climb across/ up a descent. It only takes a few riders to ride the decent again and rip a big line down your benches.

Oh and GS. WA is going nuts with good, new MTB parks

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stunet Thursday, 16 Jun 2022 at 8:10pm

Deck pulled off an Austinmer reno and straight into a new wall ride. Not my work, and I haven't ridden it yet either, though it looks very inviting. It's on a brand new, almost-finished trail, that's fast and tight and black all the way - doesn't even have B lines built into it.

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Plasticspastic Thursday, 7 Jul 2022 at 12:24pm

that looks epic. Wall rides are kinda all or nothing.. need speed..

I attempted the newish - downhill line at Nerang - Taipan, and tried to pull up on one of the drops to berm, but couldn't in time and slowly, went over the bars, and crashed into the berm then slid down all the way to the bottom. to the joy of two 15 groms watching.. Stoked. at least it was muddy... ...

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stunet Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 9:35am

After six weeks off the bike - three weeks in Indo, three weeks insurance buffer beforehand - I've been getting dirty again. Lots of kms in the saddle on the small days, and swinging the tools on the weekends.

What was going to be a B-line for the last jump on Screaming Trees instantly turned into an A-line. A big hip with a perfect tranny, blind lander, smooth in every way, just spectacularly bootable for everyone from hacker dads (and mums) to precocious groms.

The lander led down into a hollow that deserved just one more gap, which it got, however the OH&S officer in me could foresee danger with crew coming back across the Scott Morrisson Memorial Bridge heading for the up trail, via the blind lander.

So, a new diversion had to be built. Wood got sourced, lugged, cut, and nailed...and two weekends later we have a boardwalk.

Kicker for the new hip (steeper and higher than it looks)

Shallow gap to clear on the hip - though it can be rolled too - heading down towards the new gap

Next two shots: Run up into the new gap, or peel off to the boardwalk

Though the trail features end you can continue on to the Scott Morrisson Memorial Bridge.

Heading back for the up trail. Edges of the boardwalk still need to be cleaned up. After that I'm gonna down tools and just ride for a while.

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Fliplid Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 1:27pm

Surely the Scott Morrison Memorial Bridge would be better placed as a plank running out into thin air at the edge of the escarpment. Preferably just past the big hipped tranny so she can give him a kick in the arse as he goes over

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blackers Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 2:04pm

Good work Flipper.

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tubeshooter Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 2:07pm

Yeah haha. Gold.

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mitchvg Friday, 19 Aug 2022 at 11:37pm

Quick Crankworx update. They're building a half pipe which runs parallel to the course direction, snowboard style. They'll hip into and out of it, from left or right. Should be sick! Also, the scale of building is pretty scary. They're being pretty thrifty with the bush they're cutting down and elevation used. But the way they just open it up and make it really wide and smooth, you could easily roll down towards the whip off jump at 40ks I reckon. I've been to GV and seen the big line there. But only in poor condition and grassy, looks so much more intimidating having the run in come straight out of the rainforest and freshly built. Oh and it doesn't look like they're building a straight pump track either which is good. Kinda defeats the purpose I reckon, not being able to pump out of corners.

There's been a lot of tree trimming and raking going on lately too. If anyone comes up and is planning to ride there might be quite a lot of pirate trails and jumps running.

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GuySmiley Saturday, 20 Aug 2022 at 9:35am

Love this, it’s actually a thing out of Wanaka, the last time I was there only had 7 shops in town that would sell you a mtb!

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https://www.lakewanaka.co.nz/things-to-do/mountain-biking-road-cycling/h...

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blackers Saturday, 20 Aug 2022 at 3:38pm
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Love this, it’s actually a thing out of Wanaka, the last time I was there only had 7 shops in town that would sell you a mtb!
https://www.lakewanaka.co.nz/things-to-do/mountain-biking-road-cycling/h...

That was a giggle, thanks Guy. I reckon the hare was the real winner anyway, nice lunch and a bit of a nap. Was kinda hoping for the fox to reappear at the end..

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stunet Thursday, 1 Sep 2022 at 2:23pm

The view from a trailhead to be:

That's Sandon Point down there, and Peggies just to the south of it. My house is down there somewhere too.

The elevation is 360m and once all the work is done it'll link to an existing trail at 210m, which then links onto another that ends at 20m above sea level. 340m vertical descent. For comparison, Thredbo is 500m.

A smidge over 4kms of tech descents, flow, and a full km of non-stop park features at the bottom - or it can be extended out a few more kms with some additional XC loops.

Shuttle back to the top and repeat, or pop your dropper and hit the granny gear for a long grind back up Bulli Pass.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Thursday, 1 Sep 2022 at 2:59pm

Geez Stu, you could do that for a living. You ever thought of getting a syndicate of like minded crew and buying a steep and cheap block of land and opening a MTB park?

Where do you get all your materials? There’s enough timber to build a couple of houses. I understand if you scab around for old decking but what about all the bugle head screws ? They’re expensive!

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stunet Thursday, 1 Sep 2022 at 3:19pm

I'd love to. The area we mainly build in is a 35ha stand of bush just north of here. I did some research and found that in 2017 it sold for $425K.

It's riddled with mines, topped with flammable coalwash, so can never be built on, but fuck it'd be a great MTB park. Two mins from my joint, two mins from the beach, 150m vertical descent.

As it is, we just go ahead and build in there. I called the main trail Screaming Trees, made up a sign ('inspired' by Santa Cruz Skateboards) and have recently made up a few shirts to sell to local riders. $15 profit from each shirt goes back into tools and trail upkeep. Lot of the wood comes from mates who are tradies.

Screaming Trees has a lot of wooden features but the new trail up top will be natural. Just rock and soil. We may have to use wood on occasion: retaining walls etc. But we'll try and hide them.

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freeride76 Thursday, 1 Sep 2022 at 3:20pm

Going out for a MTB ride with the son at the local park/trail this arvo.

he digs it, I'm making up the numbers and trying not to wrap myself around a tree.

it's a nice piece of remnant big scrub rainforest.

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stunet Thursday, 1 Sep 2022 at 3:22pm

Stop and smell the roses, Steve.

Enjoy.

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freeride76 Thursday, 1 Sep 2022 at 3:26pm

hahaha, I'll try.

The ride up and back will be spent with my son laying out the case as to why he needs to spend 5 grand on a bike.
Now.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Thursday, 1 Sep 2022 at 3:30pm

Say it’s ten blokes involved and you get it for $700K. That’s $70Kish each over a 25 year loan. What’s that with interest …$60/week? It’s not just two minutes from the surf and two minutes from your place, it’s also thirty minutes from millions of entertainment hungry Sydneysiders.

Sell out and make a motza doing what you love!

And sell me a shirt ya bugger.

Serious about the shirt.

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Craig Thursday, 1 Sep 2022 at 3:32pm

Crazy steep there Stu, insane!

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seaslug Sunday, 4 Sep 2022 at 7:30am

That's great Stu. Sign me up for a T-shirt

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Island Bay Sunday, 4 Sep 2022 at 8:35am

Good stuff, Stu. Looks beautiful.
Reminds me of a running/mtb track back in Wellington - The Tip Track. 3.7km and 490m drop. Ex world mountain running champ Jonathan Wyatt holds the uphill record with 16min something. Beast! (My pb is a much more modest 28min).
Mtb guys struggle to get enough grip and climb slower.

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GuySmiley Sunday, 4 Sep 2022 at 9:26am

Shuttle back to the top and repeat, or pop your dropper and hit the granny gear for a long grind back up Bulli Pass.…. How are emtbs going in that neck of the woods? Seems ideal terrain

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AndyM Sunday, 4 Sep 2022 at 9:54am
Island Bay wrote:

Good stuff, Stu. Looks beautiful.
Reminds me of a running/mtb track back in Wellington - The Tip Track. 3.7km and 490m drop. Ex world mountain running champ Jonathan Wyatt holds the uphill record with 16min something. Beast! (My pb is a much more modest 28min).
Mtb guys struggle to get enough grip and climb slower.

Good lord, how do you do 3.7km with 490m vert in 16min??

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stunet Thursday, 29 Sep 2022 at 9:05am

Thredbo just announced three new trails for the season opening, with two more opening towards the end of the season. All of them on the Merritts/Cruiser side of the mountain.

They're also going to start running the Cruiser Chairlift in summer, taking the total to four lifts.

More options on the north side of the mountain now, as opposed to the trad runs of Cannonball and Kozzy Flow on the south side.

From the top of Cruiser, Paparazzi into Grasshopper into Sidewinder into Home Run equals 7kms of flow trail with just over 500m of fall.

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Robwilliams Thursday, 29 Sep 2022 at 2:30pm
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mattlock Thursday, 29 Sep 2022 at 10:55pm

Wow.
Those Tassie trails look insane.
Gone are the days when we were chased by the NP Rangers.
MTB specific trails everywhere these days.

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Robwilliams Friday, 30 Sep 2022 at 9:27am

With epic views in both Tas and Nsw. A good day out.

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stunet Thursday, 20 Oct 2022 at 8:28pm

Jack Moir, off the bike and onto the boards.

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mitchvg Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 1:10pm

Another berm...

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stunet Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 3:29pm

What's going on there, Mitch?

You building that?

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Craig Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 3:33pm

That soil looks so rich!

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mitchvg Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 1:04am

Sorry Stu yes been digging again. Had my fill of trail riding over the past 5 months, averaging 15hrs a month and getting a bit of everything in.

I put a standard filter on the photos to override the variations in colour from daylight and moisture. Makes gradual progress more noticeable, the photo below is normal.

The last feature worked too well, getting shot out of that berm like a cannon. This one will be a bit more catch as there's no need to carry the speed. I essentially just see berms as straight walls to push against to redirect yourself. Not arcs. I do dig the inside of the corner out though so you're tipped into it. Berms on flat ground are different but regardless the aim is to get horizontal if not sideways!

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It was a fun off camber corner to practice controlled drifts on, but I'm trying to make this the main line. So hopefully after this corner is built you can bomb straight down with confidence, or drag your brakes the whole way with confidence too.

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I'm pretty methodical when I dig. Start by opening up the line of sight from corner to corner to corner. Choose one big feature and leave the rest raw. Dig outline. Then bench in deep from the bottom and work upwards. Makes it easier to see progress when you only do a 1.5 hrs at a time. Each dig you've extended the berm by another foot rather than added 1% volume overall or gone 1% deeper or something.

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Robwilliams Friday, 25 Nov 2022 at 6:11pm

udo's vid from other thread,
a bit heavier than a sprint to the shops;).