Anzac spirit dead ?

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inzider started the topic in Saturday, 30 Sep 2017 at 8:02am

A kiwi can live in Australia on a special category visa with literally less rights than a refugee, An Australian can rock into NZ and have access to healthcare, education, welfare and after 12 months of residency can vote. I feel the Anzac spirit is dead at a federal level.
Why has this happened
I have my own ideas on how this evolved, any swillnutters care to share their opinion.

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Gaz1799 Wednesday, 4 Oct 2017 at 9:38pm

Do you want russel crowe back? You can have barnaby joyce too if you like. No trouble.

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lukas Wednesday, 4 Oct 2017 at 9:43pm

bloody bakers dozen, doin, there home work !!!! Rusty moved over here on his own accord. Rusty paid for local swimmin pools, & propped up a local sports field in the area where i live............. he lives just up the hill, about 1km as the crow flies........ ben, sniff sniff, well done. do ya drive a blue triton ?

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Herc Thursday, 5 Oct 2017 at 1:39am

'please Herc, please, don't tell me you like that fuckin red head ?'

Na, totally off the redhead. Lincoln was embarrassed enough when the old mayor became her no one fan, although thankfully that was the end of him.

Gaz, its been said before... but please stop Gaz. The bumbling is starting to get beyond repair Gaz. Please Gaz, just stop. Before rusty bounces a mobile or 20 off the back of your scone. Gaz.

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Gaz1799 Thursday, 5 Oct 2017 at 9:29am

"FFS have a look at how long, and how much, and how ever expanding is our culture's love of exploiting 'immigrants' in their own countries. Our culture doesn't give a shit about how much it outsources and exploits labour, as long as it can make a buck." Hardly unique to "our" culture though is it herc, piss poor pay/exploitation/slavery are pretty universal.

I was gonna try and link Howard/The Red Witch/Nationalism/ANZAC/White Australia/Europe and jeeze you're right its a bit of a bumble.

But I'll still bumble on. If anyone's gonna have 20 mobile phones handy it'd be Russell Crowe but hopefully I can dodge the rest after the first one.

@lukas- nah no blue triton, I'm not from Sydney.

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Gaz1799 Thursday, 5 Oct 2017 at 9:50am

@inzider - just read some of your earlier comments on cost of living pay rates etc.

I know the oz government guards citizenship because we have generous welfare but I just had a look at New Zealands and it almost looks better, dependin on cost of living. Obviously loads of variables.

Things in oz aren't rosey either now. Cost of living is mental, power bills are $1000 a quarter minimum and private health is now so expensive its made itself redundant. Fuel isn't too bad at $1.20 at the moment tho. Our medicare/public health system is on the verge of collapse in SA they were turning ambulances away 2 weeks ago or they had them lined up 20 deep at the hospital ramps refusing them entry.

I'm surprised the kiwi government hasn't reciprocated a lot of the things you mentioned in the thread topic I doubt it would do any political damage.

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Herc Thursday, 5 Oct 2017 at 10:15am

' Hardly unique to "our" culture though is it herc, piss poor pay/exploitation/slavery are pretty universal.'

That's true Gaz, but just because someone else is morbidly obese for instance, doesn't make it ok for Ozzies to lead the way in obesity. We are supposed to be the bastion of 'advancement', and love parading all this nationalistic Anzac pride. But the actual truth is:

'na fuck our Ozzie groms, corse we can exploit a third world abused slave to do basic accounting tasks, graphics tasks, assembling, manufacturing, communication, well anything that would give our Ozzie groms training and a stable, comfortable career path and lifestyle and future'.

And a stable, comfortable career path and lifestyle and future isn't even on the agenda in the bastion of truth (well just a few fibs), justice and the American wizard of Oz, Anzac hall of fame. Its a shame that the deceitful, thick headed poms didn't listen and learn a bit more about real legacy, about really handing something on, leaving something truly great to the kids, from Indigenous Australians, before they stubbornly fucked up and got washed away and rescued at Gundagai.

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inzider Friday, 6 Oct 2017 at 6:19am

Fuck it I have to say it again
I agree Herc
A familiar theme between nz and oz is our love of inporting cheap labour at the expense of not training our youth for the jobs
How govts get away with letting national and multinational companies do this does my head in.
I read recently SA has some rediculous rate of youth unemployment.
Granted some kids are fat and lazy but who let them get like that.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 6 Oct 2017 at 11:21pm

Going back to NZiders original post about working conditions, I had a look at my old surveyor's dig a few months ago and it now pays about 20% less than it did in 2007. It's just mind blowing that organised labour has gone along with the increased immigration levels in the name of diversity, and completely thrown their members under a large bus. What isn't being talked about is the amount of productive industry (ie, value adding) that we have lost and papered over with a housing bubble - letting the entire world in to bid, to keep the prices up, so that the Day of Reckoning should be delayed. It's demoralising to see what has been done to Australian youth as well - job opportunities, uni opportunities sold off to any bidder from overseas; career paths now a rotisserie of internships that might lead to something. For the homeless young, some of whom I surf with, I have no answers.

Anzac spirit? Well, great uncle was 7th Division, saw action on Kokoda and in the Solomons (which sounded worse)... his generation fought and kept Australia sovereign. How it was sold off so cheaply from under all of us is just appalling. Now you can have your $1000 quarterly power bill (thank fcuk for solar), you will never see those incredible Tassie veggies on your dinner plate as they go offshore - and you will like it!

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eat-your-vegies Saturday, 7 Oct 2017 at 2:50am

So when you ozy taxpayers have finished paying for the NBN network, how cheap do you think the govt will sell it off ?

And how much MORE will private companies charge for the service you paid for in the first place ?..?

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 7:01pm

Geez I miss this site before the Mean Girl bullies and outrage merchants found a home.

Conversations were possible without mindless insults or attempted cancellation of contributors

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seeds Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 7:06pm

Blowin you have a point but you have also been the architect of your own demise.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 7:34pm

Yes and no.

I always went hard but it turned into petty bitchiness with Facto and VIC Local’s infatuation with me.

Even Blindboy and Uplift argued a point with the best they had instead of the pointless insults and character assassination attempts.

These two wouldn’t even let me post a story under a completely different pseudonym without turning it into a smear festival. It isn’t even about differing opinions.

Shame. Used to be fun. Now it’s just frustrating and boring.

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mikehunt207 Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 7:45pm

I actually find it interesting how quickly new SN identities are uncovered , writing style, mindset and opinion shows through surprisingly quickly .

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 7:50pm

Definitely.

Stylistic fingerprints which the owner isn’t aware of are often quite apparent to others familiar with them.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 7:58pm

We're faster than those computers that ID people online.

If I was to do another one, I'd at least modify the language style, give it a ridiculous user name, and probably type it left handed.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 8:06pm

This user name repulses me. I chose it and initially used a different style purely to be able to comment without the attention of those who need to break things because they have no creativity themselves.

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bluediamond Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 8:07pm

I must be slow. Ive only ever used one name, wouldn't know arthur from marthur, and leave filthy online footprints everywhere.
Psychology one o one, fail. But yeah, would b a better place if crew could just refrain from the same old personal attacks. Not necessary in a democratic open discussion.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 8:14pm

btw that religion article will melt down the site, then the entire internet on the eastern seaboard, then the world - and lead to the break down of society, mass starvation and bikers in B&D attire ruling fuel supplies in the post-apocalyptic aftermath...

well played

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 8:28pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

btw that religion article will melt down the site, then the entire internet on the eastern seaboard, then the world - and lead to the break down of society, mass starvation and bikers in B&D attire ruling fuel supplies in the post-apocalyptic aftermath...

well played

Hard to even imagine a post apocalyptic world where arseless chaps aren’t de rigueur.

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AndyM Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 8:34pm

“ Hard to even imagine a post apocalyptic world where arseless chaps aren’t de rigueur.”

Throw in a motorbike and a blonde boyfriend and you’re ready to be the Ayatollah of Rocknrolla.

Yeew!

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seeds Monday, 25 Apr 2022 at 8:48pm

Arseless chaps are always funny. Never gets old no matter in what setting

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TwsitedDrifter Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 8:26pm
mikehunt207 wrote:

I actually find it interesting how quickly new SN identities are uncovered , writing style, mindset and opinion shows through surprisingly quickly .

Some people actually have two handles? How ridiculous!

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batfink Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 10:24pm
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

This user name repulses me. I chose it and initially used a different style purely to be able to comment without the attention of those who need to break things because they have no creativity themselves.

Creativity?

Really?

Mindless gobfest abuse, sure, but creativity? Is that what you think you were doing?

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 11:19pm

I sometimes get a bit creative.

I could’ve just given a black and white description of your shitty ball- less existence as a nondescript Eastern suburbs girly man who wasted his life in an office and who struggles to get out the back at 2ft Brontë , couldn’t I?

I didn’t have to dress it up with florid descriptions of your tepid beige character shrugging through life. I’ve done you a favour by being creative in my assessment of you when I could’ve simply dismissed you as just another insipid, passive aggressive metrosexual gronk who’s biggest adventure each day is having a pen leak in your top pocket.

You should appreciate my efforts to put a bit of lively spin on your otherwise nondescript personality. It’s not high art but i like to think it’s better than just a dry accounting of your plodding and dull position as an NPC in the surfing culture.

Funny thing is that I’ve only ever had a go at you after you’ve turned your lisping sideways insults towards me first. Just like tonight.

Perhaps you should try not acting like a dickhead if you don’t want to be treated like a dickhead. As it stands you’re just another whiny fuck who thinks they can safely prod and poke someone at your leisure and get all surprised and emotional when they poke you back. Then you’re straight onto the manager/ police/ your long suffering wife to complain about the way you’ve been treated.

You’re a squealer. No one likes a squealer. Particularly when they bring the trouble on themselves in the first place.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 11:10pm
TwsitedDrifter wrote:
mikehunt207 wrote:

I actually find it interesting how quickly new SN identities are uncovered , writing style, mindset and opinion shows through surprisingly quickly .

Some people actually have two handles? How ridiculous!

Another pseudonym, Constance?

Really?

Zzzzzzzzzzz

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batfink Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 5:36pm

Thank you DSDS. Such a considered response. Two hoots not given.

I try to tend away from personal abuse, call it an updated Hammurabi’s code for the internet age. Sometimes I worry about your mental health. Honestly.