COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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Roadkill Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:22pm

VL, are you paid by Bill Gates or Zuckaberg? Or Pfizer?

Truth to tell, bd. I can’t lie to you mate. The Rothschilds pay me.

New world brah. You're either in or out.

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bluediamond Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:28pm

I'll take that, 20 odd post's later from a fairly reasoned question, as a non opinion Roady. As you were.

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bluediamond Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:29pm
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Um, so does anyone know why the US government has asked hospitals to stop reporting Covid deaths as of Feb 2, 2022??

The Democrats are in political strife so their covid narrative has been shit canned. Same as when the BLM riots they’d astroturf instigated and supported started polling badly…. shut down.

Thanks Blowin. That makes some kind of sense.

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:34pm

“it is a vicious cycle that is crippling healthcare care systems around the world. The worse the staff shortages get, the more nurses and doctors end up succumbing to mental and physical exhaustion, further exacerbating the shortages.” The vaccine mandates appear to be the final straw. A sudden wave of dismissals and resignations of unvaccinated staff is making it even harder for overstretched hospitals to treat patients of COVID-19 and other serious conditions.

In some parts of Canada, including Quebec, public health authorities in December “allowed” infected workers to return to work as hospitals grappled with thousands of staff calling in sick amid a surge in new case numbers. The province of Alberta took the much more rational step of allowing unvaccinated workers back on the job, as long as they agreed to undergo regular testing — something the UK’s NHS could do easily and at little extra cost with the roughly 70,000 workers that still refuse to get vaccinated. In fact, it should be doing it with both vaccinated and unvaccinated workers.

Fighting a pandemic with legislation that ends up producing fewer rather than more employees in the healthcare system is not just dangerous but absurd, especially given that the “no jab, no job” mandates are for a non-sterilising vaccination that does not stop infection or transmission but only reduces the risk of the recipient developing serious symptoms.

This is particularly true in the case of the Omicron variant. According to the UK Government’s latest vaccine report, published on Jan 13, cases per 100,000 are now higher in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated. It is a similar story in Denmark where the public health authorities, which have done a pretty decent job of tracking COVID-19 case numbers as well as the emergence and spread of new variants, reported in late December that 90% of the 17,800 Danes who had contracted Omicron by December 15 had been vaccinated two or three times. Only 8.5 percent were unvaccinated. In the case of Delta or other variants, the unvaccinated accounted for 23.7 percent of case numbers.

Clearly, in the age of Omicron and with the current crop of vaccines there is no logical justification for vaccine mandates for healthcare staff, especially given that many of them already have some degree of infection-acquired immunity. This is even more the case in a country where the Government has essentially removed most other public health measures for trying to control the spread of the virus such as the mask mandate and work from home rules, as even some former staunch advocates of vaccine mandates are now conceding.

No one could have predicted this, could they?

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Vic Local Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:34pm

BD: Posts anti-vax cult / covid denial rubbish and then demands answers to idiotic questions.
Others: Ignore the clown.
BD: Cracks the shits.
Oh it's good for a laugh isn't it.

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Vic Local Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:37pm
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VL, are you paid by Bill Gates or Zuckaberg? Or Pfizer?

Truth to tell, bd. I can’t lie to you mate. The Rothschilds pay me.

New world brah. You're either in or out.

I'm on Pfizer's and Zuckerberg's payroll, and while SN don't give me any cash, they do sling me a couple of pairs of boardies and a wetsuit every 6 months. BTW Craig, Ben and Stu, your instalment is late. Sling me a few blocks of wax and all is forgiven.

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Roadkill Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:42pm
Vic Local wrote:
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VL, are you paid by Bill Gates or Zuckaberg? Or Pfizer?

Truth to tell, bd. I can’t lie to you mate. The Rothschilds pay me.

New world brah. You're either in or out.

I'm on Pfizer's and Zuckerberg's payroll, and while SN don't give me any cash, they do sling me a couple of pairs of boardies and a wetsuit every 6 months. BTW Craig, Ben and Stu, your instalment is late. Sling me a few blocks of wax and all is forgiven.

WTF…SN billed my credit card last week.

I want some boardies!

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:45pm

Who are you two kidding? You’re on the taxpayers payroll to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars each.

You both bilked your fellow Australians for covid stimulus money. That’s why you love the lockdowns. VIC Local was demanding another lockdown and stimulus taxpayer funds only a couple of weeks ago when he was bleating that the Surf Coast was enduring a CATASTROPHE!!!!!!!!

Grifters gonna grift.

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:48pm

BD, one thing you need to learn is, not everything has to make logical sense to you personally. Why are they stopping the reporting of covid deaths? Who knows? I'm sure they'll track it somewhere for monitoring purposes. Really doesn't matter. People with appropriate expertise and experience are making those decisions.

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:52pm
Blowin wrote:

“it is a vicious cycle that is crippling healthcare care systems around the world. The worse the staff shortages get, the more nurses and doctors end up succumbing to mental and physical exhaustion, further exacerbating the shortages.” The vaccine mandates appear to be the final straw. A sudden wave of dismissals and resignations of unvaccinated staff is making it even harder for overstretched hospitals to treat patients of COVID-19 and other serious conditions.

In some parts of Canada, including Quebec, public health authorities in December “allowed” infected workers to return to work as hospitals grappled with thousands of staff calling in sick amid a surge in new case numbers. The province of Alberta took the much more rational step of allowing unvaccinated workers back on the job, as long as they agreed to undergo regular testing — something the UK’s NHS could do easily and at little extra cost with the roughly 70,000 workers that still refuse to get vaccinated. In fact, it should be doing it with both vaccinated and unvaccinated workers.

Fighting a pandemic with legislation that ends up producing fewer rather than more employees in the healthcare system is not just dangerous but absurd, especially given that the “no jab, no job” mandates are for a non-sterilising vaccination that does not stop infection or transmission but only reduces the risk of the recipient developing serious symptoms.

This is particularly true in the case of the Omicron variant. According to the UK Government’s latest vaccine report, published on Jan 13, cases per 100,000 are now higher in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated. It is a similar story in Denmark where the public health authorities, which have done a pretty decent job of tracking COVID-19 case numbers as well as the emergence and spread of new variants, reported in late December that 90% of the 17,800 Danes who had contracted Omicron by December 15 had been vaccinated two or three times. Only 8.5 percent were unvaccinated. In the case of Delta or other variants, the unvaccinated accounted for 23.7 percent of case numbers.

Clearly, in the age of Omicron and with the current crop of vaccines there is no logical justification for vaccine mandates for healthcare staff, especially given that many of them already have some degree of infection-acquired immunity. This is even more the case in a country where the Government has essentially removed most other public health measures for trying to control the spread of the virus such as the mask mandate and work from home rules, as even some former staunch advocates of vaccine mandates are now conceding.

No one could have predicted this, could they?

Blowin, I think its a pretty fundamental issue if your professional doctor, nurse or hospital worker rejects evidence based science and is unable to follow directions in regards to disease control.

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:54pm
Stok wrote:

BD, one thing you need to learn is, not everything has to make logical sense to you personally. Why are they stopping the reporting of covid deaths? Who knows? I'm sure they'll track it somewhere for monitoring purposes. Really doesn't matter. People with appropriate expertise and experience are making those decisions.

Come on Stok.

A couple of hours ago you were giving a detailed explanation why the vaccinated don’t spread covid. Something about sneezing less….lol.

Tell that to the million plus vaccinated Australians who had their little Omicold and spread it to everyone around them.

It takes a fair bit of chutzpah to try and present a theory which is disproved by the reality of millions of people in the community around you….but you tried. Points for the attempt, not so much for the brainlessness behind it bloke.

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 7:57pm
Stok wrote:
Blowin wrote:

“it is a vicious cycle that is crippling healthcare care systems around the world. The worse the staff shortages get, the more nurses and doctors end up succumbing to mental and physical exhaustion, further exacerbating the shortages.” The vaccine mandates appear to be the final straw. A sudden wave of dismissals and resignations of unvaccinated staff is making it even harder for overstretched hospitals to treat patients of COVID-19 and other serious conditions.

In some parts of Canada, including Quebec, public health authorities in December “allowed” infected workers to return to work as hospitals grappled with thousands of staff calling in sick amid a surge in new case numbers. The province of Alberta took the much more rational step of allowing unvaccinated workers back on the job, as long as they agreed to undergo regular testing — something the UK’s NHS could do easily and at little extra cost with the roughly 70,000 workers that still refuse to get vaccinated. In fact, it should be doing it with both vaccinated and unvaccinated workers.

Fighting a pandemic with legislation that ends up producing fewer rather than more employees in the healthcare system is not just dangerous but absurd, especially given that the “no jab, no job” mandates are for a non-sterilising vaccination that does not stop infection or transmission but only reduces the risk of the recipient developing serious symptoms.

This is particularly true in the case of the Omicron variant. According to the UK Government’s latest vaccine report, published on Jan 13, cases per 100,000 are now higher in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated. It is a similar story in Denmark where the public health authorities, which have done a pretty decent job of tracking COVID-19 case numbers as well as the emergence and spread of new variants, reported in late December that 90% of the 17,800 Danes who had contracted Omicron by December 15 had been vaccinated two or three times. Only 8.5 percent were unvaccinated. In the case of Delta or other variants, the unvaccinated accounted for 23.7 percent of case numbers.

Clearly, in the age of Omicron and with the current crop of vaccines there is no logical justification for vaccine mandates for healthcare staff, especially given that many of them already have some degree of infection-acquired immunity. This is even more the case in a country where the Government has essentially removed most other public health measures for trying to control the spread of the virus such as the mask mandate and work from home rules, as even some former staunch advocates of vaccine mandates are now conceding.

No one could have predicted this, could they?

Blowin, I think its a pretty fundamental issue if your professional doctor, nurse or hospital worker rejects evidence based science and is unable to follow directions in regards to disease control.

You mean your “evidence “ that the vaccinated don’t sneeze and therefore don’t transmit the Omicold? Lol.

How’s that working out bloke?

You sound like a bloke standing on the shore and watching the water recede as he explains that tides are theoretically impossible.

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:00pm
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@supafreak, VL and co were the first to write Joe Rogan off because YouTube banned him for the Dr Malone interview. These pro covid crew (and i reserve that term for a select few) are clutching at straws and i'm convinced they have an agenda that's somehow politically motivated. They waste too much time shutting down any argument on here that even slightly questions the official narrative (see my post above for example) for it not to be....unless there's a monetary incentive for them being on here all the time. SN??

Heard a great perspective on that video from an academic, a doctor of history funnily enough.
Basically, he mentioned that in any field, there are fully qualified, smart, fringe dwellers who's ideas go strongly against the grain and scientific majority - for example there are doctors of astronomy who reject that the big bang actually happened.
Malone is exactly this, a fringe dweller with ideas the vast, vast majority of scientists in the same field DO NOT agree with.
The fact that this qualified expert spent hours on end talking to a podcast host, effectively unchallenged and not at all fact checked, makes it quite frankly an absolute load of dangerously wrong shit.
Anti vaxxers applaud that episode as it plays straight into their narrative, it's like a warm, reassuring hug. Truth is, it's plain irresponsible.

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:01pm
Stok wrote:

BD, one thing you need to learn is, not everything has to make logical sense to you personally. Why are they stopping the reporting of covid deaths? Who knows? I'm sure they'll track it somewhere for monitoring purposes. Really doesn't matter. People with appropriate expertise and experience are making those decisions.

Your blind faith in authority is cute bloke.

Embarrassing and insanely naive, but cute.

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:03pm

Hey Blowin,
Pretty sure made it clear, that the viral load would likely be lower. I don't have evidence, just talking shit and using common sense. Funnily enough, that's what most of your fanciful anti vax ideals are based on, some dickhead positing his opinion online. Pretty annoying am I right?

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:09pm
Stok wrote:
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@supafreak, VL and co were the first to write Joe Rogan off because YouTube banned him for the Dr Malone interview. These pro covid crew (and i reserve that term for a select few) are clutching at straws and i'm convinced they have an agenda that's somehow politically motivated. They waste too much time shutting down any argument on here that even slightly questions the official narrative (see my post above for example) for it not to be....unless there's a monetary incentive for them being on here all the time. SN??

Heard a great perspective on that video from an academic, a doctor of history funnily enough.
Basically, he mentioned that in any field, there are fully qualified, smart, fringe dwellers who's ideas go strongly against the grain and scientific majority - for example there are doctors of astronomy who reject that the big bang actually happened.
Malone is exactly this, a fringe dweller with ideas the vast, vast majority of scientists in the same field DO NOT agree with.
The fact that this qualified expert spent hours on end talking to a podcast host, effectively unchallenged and not at all fact checked, makes it quite frankly an absolute load of dangerously wrong shit.
Anti vaxxers applaud that episode as it plays straight into their narrative, it's like a warm, reassuring hug. Truth is, it's plain irresponsible.

Yeah, your blind faith in the US government which brought us Vietnam, OxyContin , the invasion of the Middle East and now a potential war against Russia is responsible bloke.

FFS.

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Vic Local Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:04pm
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VL, are you paid by Bill Gates or Zuckaberg? Or Pfizer?

Truth to tell, bd. I can’t lie to you mate. The Rothschilds pay me.

New world brah. You're either in or out.

I'm on Pfizer's and Zuckerberg's payroll, and while SN don't give me any cash, they do sling me a couple of pairs of boardies and a wetsuit every 6 months. BTW Craig, Ben and Stu, your instalment is late. Sling me a few blocks of wax and all is forgiven.

WTF…SN billed my credit card last week.

I want some boardies!

Not going to happen roadkill. Your subscription pays for my surf gear. Thanks.

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:06pm
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Your blind faith in authority is cute bloke.

Embarrassing and insanely naive, but cute.

Cute? Highly inappropriate. And I thought we were just having fun!

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:09pm
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Hey Blowin,
Pretty sure made it clear, that the viral load would likely be lower. I don't have evidence, just talking shit and using common sense. Funnily enough, that's what most of your fanciful anti vax ideals are based on, some dickhead positing his opinion online. Pretty annoying am I right?

But….you’re not talking common sense.

You’re talking illogical dung.

Take a look around you bloke, million plus vaccinated Australians with Covid and the highest vaccinated nations in the world are the highest case numbers of covid in the world and you’re on here turning your hand to made up science to try and convince us otherwise.

Then you’re talking about people being irresponsible.

Fuck’s sake bloke. Get some integrity and a clue.

You’re making shit up to prove something you know doesn’t exist. About time you asked yourself why you are doing this bloke.

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Roadkill Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:11pm

Just watching the AusOpen wheelchair tennis.
Alcott vs someone. 1st time watcher…pretty entertaining stuff tbh.

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bluediamond Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:12pm
Vic Local wrote:

BD: Posts anti-vax cult / covid denial rubbish and then demands answers to idiotic questions.
Others: Ignore the clown.
BD: Cracks the shits.
Oh it's good for a laugh isn't it.

If you'd like to point out to me exactly where i 'cracked the shits' that would be good for a laugh too. Thanks VL. Floor is yours.

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:12pm

Lol, it's you nutjobs who love saying how mild it is, how it's essentially a common cold.

Maybe, just maybe, because of the extent of vaccination we're seeing generally lower viral loads being transmitted and overall a more mild experience FOR EVERYONE! yes, even anti vaxxers, who are, I dunno, enjoying other people's sacrifices? Never said it stops transmission, or reduces number of cases.

Not saying I'm right, but I'm happy to call that common sense in my books.

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:15pm
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Lol, it's you nutjobs who love saying how mild it is, how it's essentially a common cold.

Maybe, just maybe, because of the extent of vaccination we're seeing generally lower viral loads being transmitted and overall a more mild experience FOR EVERYONE! yes, even anti vaxxers, who are, I dunno, enjoying other people's sacrifices? Never said it stops transmission, or reduces number of cases.

Not saying I'm right, but I'm happy to call that common sense in my books.

Mate…it’s time to drop the “vaccine hallelujah “ routine.

Omicold is mild because….Omicold is mild.

It has nothing to do with the vaccines.

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Roadkill Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:14pm

Stok…bloke is used when you're getting to him, Sicko, when he gets triggered. F**k and c**t when he throws his toys.

Snowflake, nearly as entertaining as the tennis.

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bluediamond Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:15pm
Stok wrote:

BD, one thing you need to learn is, not everything has to make logical sense to you personally. Why are they stopping the reporting of covid deaths? Who knows? I'm sure they'll track it somewhere for monitoring purposes. Really doesn't matter. People with appropriate expertise and experience are making those decisions.

Definitely the shittest answer ever. For someone with so much self proclaimed knowledge....the best you can come up with is..'not everything has to make logical sense to you. Why are they stopping the reporting of covid deaths? Who know?'. Geez cheers Stok. I'm glad you chirped in. Whether your pro or anti or inbetween vax, i reckon this is a fairly moderate question with no bias on either side. An 'who know's' doesn't really sit comfortably with me and makes me also question your agenda.

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:16pm

Ok - question for the anti vaxxers, what do you trust the government with?

Your personal information?
Your education?
Your food security?
Your right to an impartial trial via the courts?
Medicare?

Or, do you only distrust them when they start talking in areas like vaccination? Which spurs deep, old fears and feelings of anxiety due to needles....and poison....and whatever else stresses you crew out about something which we've been doing for decades.

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:17pm

BD, I'm an academic myself, just in a different field. I'm aware of the Dunning Kruger effect, and you should familiarise yourself with this.

Not knowing everything, and listening to experts, is a pretty fundamental thing.

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:19pm
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Stok…bloke is used when you're getting to him, Sicko, when he gets triggered. F**k and c**t when he throws his toys.

Snowflake, nearly as entertaining as the tennis.

Come on bloke, you’re routinely the stupidest person on these threads. VIC local is insane, Stok is mislead but you’re just everyday , garden variety stupid.

You don’t think anyone has noticed that you’ve never contributed a single coherent thought or fact about covid in your 3656899 comments about covid?

Come on bloke. Only you’re stupid enough to believe that.

But go ahead and post more brainless rubbish about triggers and snowflakes, which everyone but yourself knows is something you’d hear shouted out the window of the special bus. You do enjoy it so.

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:21pm
Stok wrote:

Ok - question for the anti vaxxers, what do you trust the government with?

Your personal information?
Your education?
Your food security?
Your right to an impartial trial via the courts?
Medicare?

Or, do you only distrust them when they start talking in areas like vaccination? Which spurs deep, old fears and feelings of anxiety due to needles....and poison....and whatever else stresses you crew out about something which we've been doing for decades.

I don’t trust them with any of the above. Nor should you. The government is reckless and cavalier with your life.

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bluediamond Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:26pm

Fellas, i gave you two outs. I offered you the Swellnet paying you option, which was vehemently, and rather quickly denied by bermalthen, and then, i offered you the allignment with a political party, which would make much more sense, and give you an easy out.
But as such, it stands, that you both live in a self created dungeon of fear and self righteousness with an unwavering dedication to be right and tear others down that don't agree with your single minded purist vision.
Fellas, there's rabbit holes, and then there's dungeons. The time you put into these threads is definitely somewhere deep in the dungeon. Might not hurt to let yourselves be free.

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VL, are you paid by Bill Gates or Zuckaberg? Or Pfizer?

Truth to tell, bd. I can’t lie to you mate. The Rothschilds pay me.

New world brah. You're either in or out.

I'm on Pfizer's and Zuckerberg's payroll, and while SN don't give me any cash, they do sling me a couple of pairs of boardies and a wetsuit every 6 months. BTW Craig, Ben and Stu, your instalment is late. Sling me a few blocks of wax and all is forgiven.

WTF…SN billed my credit card last week.

I want some boardies!

Not going to happen roadkill. Your subscription pays for my surf gear. Thanks.

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Supafreak Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:30pm
Stok wrote:

Ok - question for the anti vaxxers, what do you trust the government with?

Your personal information?
Your education?
Your food security?
Your right to an impartial trial via the courts?
Medicare?

Or, do you only distrust them when they start talking in areas like vaccination? Which spurs deep, old fears and feelings of anxiety due to needles....and poison....and whatever else stresses you crew out about something which we've been doing for decades.

Stok , there are many who aren’t anti -vax , they are simply very weary of mRNA which we haven’t been injecting into people for decades . To say people are anti- vax because they are afraid of needles is a bit lame . On Dr Malone being a fringe scientist when it comes to mRNA is also questionable , the challenge has been put out to any of the 270 “ doctors “ that signed a petition demanding spotify remove the rogan podcast https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/an-open-debate-challenge-to-the-270?r... I’ve said before that I’m sceptical of some of the things Dr Malone has stated but would love to see someone challenge him .

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Vic Local Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:52pm
bluediamond wrote:
Vic Local wrote:

BD: Posts anti-vax cult / covid denial rubbish and then demands answers to idiotic questions.
Others: Ignore the clown.
BD: Cracks the shits.
Oh it's good for a laugh isn't it.

If you'd like to point out to me exactly where i 'cracked the shits' that would be good for a laugh too. Thanks VL. Floor is yours.

"Answer the damn question" is cracking the shits.

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Roadkill Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:55pm
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Stok…bloke is used when you're getting to him, Sicko, when he gets triggered. F**k and c**t when he throws his toys.

Snowflake, nearly as entertaining as the tennis.

Come on bloke, you’re routinely the stupidest person on these threads. VIC local is insane, Stok is mislead but you’re just everyday , garden variety stupid.

You don’t think anyone has noticed that you’ve never contributed a single coherent thought or fact about covid in your 3656899 comments about covid?

Come on bloke. Only you’re stupid enough to believe that.

But go ahead and post more brainless rubbish about triggers and snowflakes, which everyone but yourself knows is something you’d hear shouted out the window of the special bus. You do enjoy it so.

Well, it’s good to be best at something.

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Vic Local Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 8:59pm

Behold the anti-vax whackos in all their glory. Here's a group of them pretending to be veterans at the Brisbane rally yesterday. Bog standard khakis available at BCF, footwear including work boots and running shoes, random hats, and the world's most laughable attempt at marching in formation. Two of them forgot to bring their pants FFS!!
It's all getting a little silly isn't it.

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bluediamond Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 9:00pm
Vic Local wrote:
bluediamond wrote:
Vic Local wrote:

BD: Posts anti-vax cult / covid denial rubbish and then demands answers to idiotic questions.
Others: Ignore the clown.
BD: Cracks the shits.
Oh it's good for a laugh isn't it.

If you'd like to point out to me exactly where i 'cracked the shits' that would be good for a laugh too. Thanks VL. Floor is yours.

"Answer the damn question" is cracking the shits.

Are you for real?

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gromfull Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 9:00pm
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Hi gromfull how are you feeling now? What symptoms?

OK saltyone I'll give you my symptom time line
14/1, tickle in back of throat, didn't think anything of it becuase I swallowed a mouthfuls of filty river water pushing my 10 yr old into waves
15/1, it afternoon started to feel like shit, up all night coughing body aches, that's when I thought covid becuase that's how I felt after my first jabby jabber , I thought I've felt like this before
16/1 go and get tested, both me and my son, coughing badly all day full body aches
17/1 results in, me positive son negative, but becuase he is a close contact he has to isolate as well
18/1, body aches reduced coughing easing
19/1, son wakes up full fever high temp , throwing up, was inevitable, just the two of us with me preparing meals, trying to stay separate but impossible to achieve, he is not vaccinated and never will be with these useless jabs, by the afternoon he has stopped throwing up temp coming down and sleeping alot
By the end of the next day he is pretty much over it, back to his normal self
Me not so, cough slowly going but get fatigued easily, sleeping alot,
21/1 just the odd random cough back to normal really except for the odd cough and feeling a bit chesty flu like,
Get another test go home carry on as usual but isolating
22/1, son back to normal has been for a couple of days, me just that lingering odd cough and heavy chest
Results back, son positive, me positive, so iso we stay
I have no idea who I caught it off, but was from someone at work, as do service work and generally see a few different clients a day, every work place I attended has at some point had positive cases, everyone I had contact with is double jabby jabbed, so the useless vaccine of doing it to protect the community, fark off how did that protect me, spread by the vaxxed and caught by being vaxxed,
8 days now and it just lingers,
Son 24 hrs and flicked all symptoms, fit little shit he is,

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Supafreak Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 9:18pm

@gromfull , hope you recover soon and no lingering symptoms. Be nice to know if you have omicron or delta when you first test positive.

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gsco Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 9:39pm
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BD, one thing you need to learn is, not everything has to make logical sense to you personally. Why are they stopping the reporting of covid deaths? Who knows? I'm sure they'll track it somewhere for monitoring purposes. Really doesn't matter. People with appropriate expertise and experience are making those decisions.

Accepting or indeed embracing the uncertainty and not-knowing of life is good and very wise advice. The rest of what you said is just naive, simplistic, blind and too black-and-white.

Those decision makers you have blind faith in are not so experienced or the experts you believe they are.

There’s people in the private sector with far more expertise and experience getting paid 5 times more as a result. Many of these higher level experts in the private sector openly, publicly disagree with the decisions being made, on very valid and solid grounds.

These decision makers are also only human and subject to error.

They also operate within and have to follow the rules of questionable and oftentimes flawed and even nonexistent government decision making institutions, frameworks and processes. We see the poor outcomes of governmental institutions and frameworks in all kinds of areas in society, and there’s no reason to think medical and health decision making institutions are an exception.

These decision makers are also subject to human temptation and potential corruption and cronyism.

They also potentially have personal and professional conflicts of interest such as personal and close family commercial interests, positions on boards of private sector companies, investments in say managed funds and ETFs that hold biotech and vaccine companies, etc.

The list is longer than this.

Government decision making across all sectors is largely just characterised by grey area. People have every reason to question all aspects of it.

I’d suggest that the above - the uncertainty and grey area - and the lack of transparency and public consultation is driving a lot of the lack of trust that we’re seeing with covid and vaccines etc being expressed out there in the real world and in these forums.

Things are never as they seem or black-and-white.

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 9:36pm
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I don’t trust them with any of the above. Nor should you. The government is reckless and cavalier with your life.

You're a keyboard warrior pal, thru and thru.

Very easy to criticise and state how little trust these institutions deserve, yet live with the comfort and luxuries provided on the day to day this country provides.

What's your solution? you got a better idea? An execution plan? Do you have a team of completely competent, loyal followers who'll hang on your every word and won't misinterpret or wrongly deliver your vision?

If you do, you'd be best off spending time working towards delivering the utopia we all deserve, than arguing with us on Swellnet ;)

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truebluebasher Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 9:43pm

NSW 1st Jan - 8th Jan ( Aged 20 y/o >)
93.6% Vaxed = 234, 495 or 98.92% Infections ( 5.7% above group rate) 11.4 more than No Vax.

Meaning Full Vaxed are spreading 11.4% above the natural Virus rate. (Promoting Covid > Death)
NSW Vax is currently spreading an extra 27, 023 infections = # Hospitalizations > ICU's > Deaths?

Mandated 100% Vax Age care staff = current week 98% infection = 2% staff to push Oz Grandmas!
Daggy Dad ups his Aged Care bar graphs to 70, 000 / day ...(Could be per minute!) see UK (next)
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/collections/covid-19-outbreaks-in-au...
Experts Mega charts for upcoming Mass Booster infections ..while fooling fools that Vax reduces Covid?
Vaxed Hospital admissions / deaths are soaring above Vax rate...More! Is the cry...More Vax Crisis!

EU / US travel bans for High Risk Danger Zone (That's us!) Mandated Hellhole of the Pacific!
Scomo waits until we score WR voc spikes to infect the Globe! [ Travel World Says No more Aussies ]
World says : Cases/m (Too High) RAT Plague was too little too late.

Australia has begun shifting Australia Day to neighbourly Vax free Covid free PNG...all good!
That's if China will stamp our Visas...
China : 'We hot wired the Volcano to fire up yer new NBN Pacific Link!'

Welcome to Oz Booster future...(Warning!) Double Mass Vax Trouble lies Ahead...Steer Clear!

UK 26th Dec 2021 > 16th Jan 2022 ( Infections 18y/o >)
UK Vaccinated are boosting infections 41.62% above natural virus rate

Unvaxed Population = 31.81%
Unvaxed = 285, 948 infections or 11% (20.81% less than pop -Mopping up Covid with innate immunity)

Vaccinated Population = (1,2,3) 68.19%
Vaxed = 2,131, 133 infections or 89% (20.81% above neutral- due to suppressed innate immunity)
Vaccinated are spreading 41.62% above "Current declining Covid rate".(As shown by neutral no vax!)
UK Vax is currently spiking an extra 1, 005, 989 infections = # Hospital > ICU > Deaths?

Choose one or all Mass Vax Killing Machine Spike weapons.
1 dose > 3wks = 13, 425 infections
1 dose + 3wks = 87, 535 infections
2 doses = 1, 095, 258 infections
Boosters = 943, 915 infections
1/2/3 Doses = 2, 131, 133 infections

All Hail VIP Vax! Do the Right Thing for yer Community... Kill Kill Kill.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports.aspx
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surve...

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 9:47pm
gsco wrote:

Accepting or indeed embracing the uncertainty and not-knowing of life is good and very wise advice. The rest of what you said is just naive, simplistic, blind and too black-and-white.

Those decision makers you have blind faith in are not so experienced or the experts you believe they are.

There’s people in the private sector with far more expertise and experience getting paid 5 times more as a result. Many of these higher level experts in the private sector openly, publicly disagree with the decisions being made, on very valid and solid grounds.

These decision makers are also only human and subject to error.

They also operate within and have to follow the rules of questionable and oftentimes flawed and even nonexistent government decision making institutions, frameworks and processes. We see the poor outcomes of governmental institutions and frameworks in all kinds of areas in society, and there’s no reason to think medical and health decision making institutions are an exception.

These decision makers are also subject to human temptation and potential corruption and cronyism.

They also potentially have personal and professional conflicts of interest such as personal and close family commercial interests, positions on boards of private sector companies, investments in say managed funds and ETFs that hold biotech and vaccine companies, etc.

The list is longer than this.

Government decision making across all sectors is largely just characterised by grey area. People have every reason to question all aspects of it.

I’d suggest that the above - the uncertainty and grey area - and the lack of transparency and public consultation is driving a lot of the lack of trust that we’re seeing with covid and vaccines etc being expressed out there in the real world and in these forums.

Things are never as they seem or black-and-white.

I pretty much wholly agree with you GSCO, except I wouldn't overrate the private sector in their abilities or the questions they ask of the Government. I work in the private sector, and it's very much so full of incompetence, and the general ethos is that 'pressure the government to do what's best for the company'.

I would like to say that if we were to replace all the experts in the world, with people who felt they knew better (qualified or not), we'd be in the a similar spot regarding flawed logic, corruption, incompetence and ad leadership - just way, way worse off.

The fundamental misunderstanding with covid is it is a grey area, and the experts and people in charge are really struggling to get this right - but it's the side-lined contrarians, fringe dwellers who're vocally herding the masses by grifting and selling them hopes and dreams. They're the ones not taking accountability for the shit they're doing and spreading.

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Supafreak Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 9:48pm

Well said gsco , it amazes me how easily some except government decisions that they say are based on the health experts advice. I’m also amazed at how excepting people are of the contracts between pharma and government not being publicly displayed as well as data from the trials. The lack of transparency and the ‘ just trust the experts’ is all a bit strange .

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gromfull Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 9:59pm
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@gromfull , hope you recover soon and no lingering symptoms. Be nice to know if you have omicron or delta when you first test positive.

OK superfreaky that was one of the first questions I asked my doctor, becuase that info was not provided in the messages from NSW Health, he said they don't give that info out, well why the fuck not, again Red flag, what purpose is there in not providing that info to the patient, wish I never received the jabbyjab now

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Vic Local Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 10:10pm

What a load of rubbish.
There's two reasons why there's no grand conspiracy going on with covid / vaccines / lockdowns
1. There's absolutely nothing to gain for government to inject a vaccine that's useless, misrepresent the stats, or impose lockdowns.
2. Governments have zero chance of getting away with it with so many medical experts paying close attention to this situation.
Ask yourselves this. Why would any government deliberately trash their economy, and introduce lockdowns for a virus that is "just like the flu"? Why the fuck would any government launch the biggest public health initiative in history if the vaccine didn't work?
Yes covid is shit, but there's no grand worldwide conspiracy here. Time to put on your big boy pants blokes and accept reality, rather than look for simple answers to complex problems on Youtube.

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burleigh Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 10:25pm
Vic Local wrote:

What a load of rubbish.
There's two reasons why there's no grand conspiracy going on with covid / vaccines / lockdowns
1. There's absolutely nothing to gain for government to inject a vaccine that's useless, misrepresent the stats, or impose lockdowns.
2. Governments have zero chance of getting away with it with so many medical experts paying close attention to this situation.
Ask yourselves this. Why would any government deliberately trash their economy, and introduce lockdowns for a virus that is "just like the flu"? Why the fuck would any government launch the biggest public health initiative in history if the vaccine didn't work?
Yes covid is shit, but there's no grand worldwide conspiracy here. Time to put on your big boy pants blokes and accept reality, rather than look for simple answers to complex problems on Youtube.

The stats have been hugely misrepresented from the beginning. What is unclear about this?

1. Some very rich people have a lot to gain from doing this. Get you’re head out of your own ass and look around

2. You’re right, the only way they get away with it is with zombie obedience from the likes of yourself, roadkill and Stok. Lucky there are people including very respected doctors standing up, unfortunately you won’t find them on MSM, so you will just write them off.

Your vaccine doesn’t work, you were told it would stop transmission, it will protect your community, your loved ones.

Who the fuck knows why governments want to jab a third dose in your arm when the first two didn’t work. Maybe they ordered enough poison to jab the population 8 times over.

Fuck they even ordered 51 million doses of novavax just in case.

Why have the government mandates stayed in place for 2 dose victims when it does fuck all?

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bluediamond Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 10:28pm

VL i'd wager all of the questions you've asked above have been answered numerous times on here, but you simply refuse to bat an eyelid at any evidence people put up, writing it all off as 'conspiracy theorist antivaxxer bullshit'. Why would anyone bother trying to convince a lunatic like you??

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Vic Local Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 10:29pm

Nice to see you are looking after your cat too burleigh.

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bluediamond Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 10:35pm
burleigh wrote:
Vic Local wrote:

What a load of rubbish.
There's two reasons why there's no grand conspiracy going on with covid / vaccines / lockdowns
1. There's absolutely nothing to gain for government to inject a vaccine that's useless, misrepresent the stats, or impose lockdowns.
2. Governments have zero chance of getting away with it with so many medical experts paying close attention to this situation.
Ask yourselves this. Why would any government deliberately trash their economy, and introduce lockdowns for a virus that is "just like the flu"? Why the fuck would any government launch the biggest public health initiative in history if the vaccine didn't work?
Yes covid is shit, but there's no grand worldwide conspiracy here. Time to put on your big boy pants blokes and accept reality, rather than look for simple answers to complex problems on Youtube.

The stats have been hugely misrepresented from the beginning. What is unclear about this?

1. Some very rich people have a lot to gain from doing this. Get you’re head out of your own ass and look around

2. You’re right, the only way they get away with it is with zombie obedience from the likes of yourself, roadkill and Stok. Lucky there are people including very respected doctors standing up, unfortunately you won’t find them on MSM, so you will just write them off.

Your vaccine doesn’t work, you were told it would stop transmission, it will protect your community, your loved ones.

Who the fuck knows why governments want to jab a third dose in your arm when the first two didn’t work. Maybe they ordered enough poison to jab the population 8 times over.

Fuck they even ordered 51 million doses of novavax just in case.

Why have the government mandates stayed in place for 2 dose victims when it does fuck all?

Nailed it Burleigh.

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Stok Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 10:40pm
burleigh wrote:

The stats have been hugely misrepresented from the beginning. What is unclear about this?

1. Some very rich people have a lot to gain from doing this. Get you’re head out of your own ass and look around

2. You’re right, the only way they get away with it is with zombie obedience from the likes of yourself, roadkill and Stok. Lucky there are people including very respected doctors standing up, unfortunately you won’t find them on MSM, so you will just write them off.

Your vaccine doesn’t work, you were told it would stop transmission, it will protect your community, your loved ones.

Who the fuck knows why governments want to jab a third dose in your arm when the first two didn’t work. Maybe they ordered enough poison to jab the population 8 times over.

Fuck they even ordered 51 million doses of novavax just in case.

Why have the government mandates stayed in place for 2 dose victims when it does fuck all?

Burleigh, do you believe in chemtrails by any chance?

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Vic Local Sunday, 23 Jan 2022 at 10:40pm

"Nailed it Burleigh."
Haaaaaa Haaaaaaa,
burleigh's response was just a stream of illogical statements and pure bullshit. Sure it may have impressed the other tin foil hat wearing crackpots, but that doesn't make any of it true.
Fuck I genuinely hope you blokes are shitfaced drunk and posting this rubbish for a laugh. If you're sober and seriously that's truly fucked up.