COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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Craig Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:25pm

End it with [/img] but you also need to right click and get the image URL and paste that between the tags..

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Stok Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:26pm
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Hey Vic,
17 deaths in NSW today - 14 fully vaccinated
7 deaths in QLD - 5 fully jabbed.

You seeing the beginning of the pattern yet?

Your jab doesn’t work

Make sure you check your maths / stats on this, burleigh: remember that 90%+ are vaxx, so the death rate at a numeric level cannot be directly compared between these two. Rather, you need to see the death rate per 100k or similar, for each group, vaxxed and non-vaxx. There's a name for this type of statistical comparison failure, but I can't remember it...who cares. The maths still stands and makes sense.

Also, not directed at you specifically, but I've also looked into Invermectin quite a bit and found nothing substantial to back the various claims of effectiveness against COVID. It is interesting to note the Merck statement on their own website about its use: https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-...
Go figure...people still want to take it after that? Why wouldn't Merck want to make money from it? Note also that Merck are still trying to develop their own COVID vaxx...so there's really no good reason for them to not want to market something in the meantime to make money (like all 'Big Pharma' does, right???).

Sorry mate but you’re wrong. Australia is around 78% fully vaccinated

Wha?
NSW is at 95% 16yrs + fully vaccintaed.
QLD is at 90% 16yrs +.

So, despite being less than 5% of the NSW population, they make up 17%+ of the deaths.

Could you imagine how screwed we'd be if the 95% listened to idiots like you?

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Craig Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:28pm

They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

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frog Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:33pm

On another forum, a 70 year old triple vaxxed with some unspecified health condition is convinced that if he gets Covid he will die.

The choice in his eyes is permanent lockdown for all or his own death. He is angry.

That is where safety, safety, safety and danger, danger, danger can end up.

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burleigh Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:36pm
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Hey Vic,
17 deaths in NSW today - 14 fully vaccinated
7 deaths in QLD - 5 fully jabbed.

You seeing the beginning of the pattern yet?

Your jab doesn’t work

Not true

Straight from the ABC website:

The Health Minister says all seven people who died had not received a booster shot. Two of the people were unvaccinated.

Notice how they said “booster shot”

You’re wrong Toadkill, 5 were “fully vaccinated” but they had not received their 3rd.

Fully vaccinated is 2 shots and a booster. Thus, none were fully vaxed.

Really? So you’re not classed as fully vaccinated with two jabs anymore? Since when?

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:38pm


Take 3.

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burleigh Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:38pm
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Hey Vic,
17 deaths in NSW today - 14 fully vaccinated
7 deaths in QLD - 5 fully jabbed.

You seeing the beginning of the pattern yet?

Your jab doesn’t work

Make sure you check your maths / stats on this, burleigh: remember that 90%+ are vaxx, so the death rate at a numeric level cannot be directly compared between these two. Rather, you need to see the death rate per 100k or similar, for each group, vaxxed and non-vaxx. There's a name for this type of statistical comparison failure, but I can't remember it...who cares. The maths still stands and makes sense.

Also, not directed at you specifically, but I've also looked into Invermectin quite a bit and found nothing substantial to back the various claims of effectiveness against COVID. It is interesting to note the Merck statement on their own website about its use: https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-...
Go figure...people still want to take it after that? Why wouldn't Merck want to make money from it? Note also that Merck are still trying to develop their own COVID vaxx...so there's really no good reason for them to not want to market something in the meantime to make money (like all 'Big Pharma' does, right???).

Sorry mate but you’re wrong. Australia is around 78% fully vaccinated

Wha?
NSW is at 95% 16yrs + fully vaccintaed.
QLD is at 90% 16yrs +.

So, despite being less than 5% of the NSW population, they make up 17%+ of the deaths.

Could you imagine how screwed we'd be if the 95% listened to idiots like you?

That’s would be fair if they didn’t include people under 16 in their other stats, but they do. Including unvaccinated in hospital.

So until that changes 78% of Australia is vaccinated.

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:39pm
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Hey Vic,
17 deaths in NSW today - 14 fully vaccinated
7 deaths in QLD - 5 fully jabbed.

You seeing the beginning of the pattern yet?

Your jab doesn’t work

Not true

Straight from the ABC website:

The Health Minister says all seven people who died had not received a booster shot. Two of the people were unvaccinated.

Notice how they said “booster shot”

You’re wrong Toadkill, 5 were “fully vaccinated” but they had not received their 3rd.

Fully vaccinated is 2 shots and a booster. Thus, none were fully vaxed.

Lol

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:41pm

So burleigh, you're happy to scream and carry on about kids not dying from covid to push your anti-vase bullshit, but not too proud to include them in your percentage of the Aus population vaxxed stats to help bolster your pathetically fragile argument.
Got it.

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Supafreak Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:42pm
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Hey Vic,
17 deaths in NSW today - 14 fully vaccinated
7 deaths in QLD - 5 fully jabbed.

You seeing the beginning of the pattern yet?

Your jab doesn’t work

Make sure you check your maths / stats on this, burleigh: remember that 90%+ are vaxx, so the death rate at a numeric level cannot be directly compared between these two. Rather, you need to see the death rate per 100k or similar, for each group, vaxxed and non-vaxx. There's a name for this type of statistical comparison failure, but I can't remember it...who cares. The maths still stands and makes sense.

Also, not directed at you specifically, but I've also looked into Invermectin quite a bit and found nothing substantial to back the various claims of effectiveness against COVID. It is interesting to note the Merck statement on their own website about its use: https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-...
Go figure...people still want to take it after that? Why wouldn't Merck want to make money from it? Note also that Merck are still trying to develop their own COVID vaxx...so there's really no good reason for them to not want to market something in the meantime to make money (like all 'Big Pharma' does, right???).

@gray , what is this vax that Merck are still trying to make ? Merck isn’t the only company that makes ivermectin, in india it’s made for about 10cents a tablet or less . Why are doctors working in ICUs in the US using ivermectin as part of their treatment if it doesn’t as you say work ?

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Stok Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:44pm
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That’s would be fair if they didn’t include people under 16 in their other stats, but they do. Including unvaccinated in hospital.

So until that changes 78% of Australia is vaccinated.

Simply referring to your post, where you were pointing out the daily deaths in NSW and QLD as if it's some golden proof of your own intelligence.

You know, the one were you said out of the 17 deaths in NSW, 3 were unvaccinated. in which case I reminded you that 95%+ of the over 16 population is vaccinated.....now, unless those 17 deaths included any under 16yr olds....which it didn't....all you did was show a pretty fucken good case for getting the vaccine.

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burleigh Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:44pm
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So burleigh, you're happy to scream and carry on about kids not dying from covid to push your anti-vase bullshit, but not too proud to include them in your percentage of the Aus population vaxxed stats to help bolster your pathetically fragile argument.
Got it.

If a kid (under 15) goes to hospital for a broken arm, they will be included in the unvaxxed stats for hospitalisation, until that changes Australia is 78% vaccinated.
What don’t you understand about this dopey?

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:48pm
Craig wrote:

They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

I think you’ll find that you are missing the major issue here which is your potential confusion between cause and correlation.

You blindly accept that the vaccines are as effective as stated without any real world comparison…..unless you start comparing the outcomes between highly vaccinated developed nations and unvaccinated undeveloped nations.

Which will soon show that high vaccination rates do not equate to reduced severe covid outcomes.

You refuse to acknowledge that the people who end up in hospital are the same demographic, whether vaccinated or unvaccinated. When the vaccine fails to prevent death you glibly state that the deceased was inherently sick already , yet you fail to acknowledge that the unvaccinated are almost always in the same state.

If you understood statistics you’d concede that the GENUINE covid hospitalisation rates are so low in absolute terms compared with infection rates, that the minor relative discrepancies between the vaccinated/ unvaccinated figures are statistically insignificant.

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Stok Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:46pm
Craig wrote:

They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

Yeah....it's like a blind rejection of real life results.

We've seen it with climate change, we've now seen it with vaccine effectiveness.

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burleigh Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:47pm
Craig wrote:

They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

Ahhh Craig, why don’t you call out Roadkill on his ridiculous post saying that your not classed as vaccinated until you’ve had your booster?

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burleigh Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:48pm
Stok wrote:
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They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

Yeah....it's like a blind rejection of real life results.

We've seen it with climate change, we've now seen it with vaccine effectiveness.

Yep, the deaths in NSW & QLD for the past week really show the effectiveness of the vaccine.
Does the high majority of people dying fully vaccinated mean it’s working?

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:50pm
burleigh wrote:
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They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

Ahhh Craig, why don’t you call out Roadkill on his ridiculous post saying that your not classed as vaccinated until you’ve had your booster?

Roadkill believes his red lining Panicometer, which has been turned up to 11 for the past couple of years, is official Australian policy.

He doesn’t realise he’s existing in a seperate sovereign state known as The Chickenshit Kingdom.

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Craig Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:51pm

I'm just going on the basic point of vaccinated deaths vs unvaccinated and the correlation with the amount of the population vaccinated.

While the vaccines are nowhere near as effective with Omicron they are still having an impact and preventing more deaths.

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goofyfoot Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:52pm
burleigh wrote:
Craig wrote:

They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

Ahhh Craig, why don’t you call out Roadkill on his ridiculous post saying that your not classed as vaccinated until you’ve had your booster?

I think this is a grey area at the moment, I got in to a robust discussion with a mate about it. I was of the same impression as you Burleigh and he was adamant that “fully vaxxed” now is 2 shots and booster

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Stok Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 2:53pm
burleigh wrote:
Stok wrote:
Craig wrote:

They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

Yeah....it's like a blind rejection of real life results.

We've seen it with climate change, we've now seen it with vaccine effectiveness.

Yep, the deaths in NSW & QLD for the past week really show the effectiveness of the vaccine.
Does the high majority of people dying fully vaccinated mean it’s working?

Yeah I'm out Burleigh....maybe we can chat about this later in the year, once you've made it through the first half of year 10 mathematics.

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 3:03pm
Stok wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Stok wrote:
Craig wrote:

They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

Yeah....it's like a blind rejection of real life results.

We've seen it with climate change, we've now seen it with vaccine effectiveness.

Yep, the deaths in NSW & QLD for the past week really show the effectiveness of the vaccine.
Does the high majority of people dying fully vaccinated mean it’s working?

Yeah I'm out Burleigh....maybe we can chat about this later in the year, once you've made it through the first half of year 10 mathematics.

"Year 10 mathematics"? That's generous.
It's more like year 6 or 7 maths.
Geez it must have been a tough job teaching burleigh. He can't understand really basic stuff, but thinks he's right all the fucking time. He probably caused a few early retirements!!

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I focus Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 3:08pm
Craig wrote:

They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

Most of the anti stuff argument tends to be on the fringes or using a small point and extrapolating that out to cover the existing belief or belief system. Common when black and white situations don't exist.

I am guessing misunderstanding how to apply statistics falls into this and if its a case of the conscious mind suspending logic thought to comply with the belief.

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Stok Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 3:09pm

lol

Yeah true, I just assumed he dropped out of school as early as possible (think it's year 10?). Either that or he's actually 13 years old.

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Ben Harding Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 3:15pm
goofyfoot wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Craig wrote:

They just don't get simple stats. That's the main issue..

Ahhh Craig, why don’t you call out Roadkill on his ridiculous post saying that your not classed as vaccinated until you’ve had your booster?

I think this is a grey area at the moment, I got in to a robust discussion with a mate about it. I was of the same impression as you Burleigh and he was adamant that “fully vaxxed” now is 2 shots and booster

The reasons it's a gray area are is that federal and state policy is not homogenous:

https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/vaccinated-travellers

https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid...

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/vaccination/facts#toc-what-it-is-to-be-f...

Two doses ^^

https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/worker-vaccination-requirements#secon...

Three doses for workers in the listed industry groups ^^, however by and large, it is still two doses.

Anticipating this to change soon is a safe bet.

Didn't bother checking the other States or Territories.

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tylerdurden Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 3:13pm

If you are still within 4 months of your last dose you can’t get the booster.
One day short of 4 months you are “fully vaccinated”, one day after the 4 months I’m not sure what you’re called but you’re eligible for the booster.
Used to be 6 months, changed a few weeks back

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tubeshooter Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 3:25pm

A lot of people like myself aren't even eligible for the booster yet.
So for NSW its ,,,,

"You are fully vaccinated if you have had your first 2 doses of the vaccine. Booster shots are not required for compliance with public health orders.

If you’ve had a booster or third dose, only your last 2 COVID-19 vaccinations will show on your digital COVID-19 certificate. Your first dose will no longer appear on your digital certificate, but you’ll still be considered fully vaccinated. All of your doses will be recorded on your immunisation record. "
https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/vaccination/get-vaccinated/boosters

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blindboy Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 4:35pm

" While vaccines do not offer complete protection against getting infected with Omicron, Professor Sutton said immunisation had shown to be effective in preventing serious illness.
“The protection of someone who’s tripled vaccinated compared to someone who’s unvaccinated is several orders of magnitude difference,” he said.
“Someone who’s in their 20s or teens who’s unvaccinated has the same risk of being hospitalised as someone who’s gotten a booster dose or third dose is in their 80s.”
Professor Sutton said the nature of the virus meant Australia would continue to experience waves of infections in the future, highlighting the importance of vaccination and boosters.”
https://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-news-live-australian-open-to-k...

Professor Sutton has extensive experience and clinical expertise in public health and communicable diseases, gained through emergency medicine and field-based international work, including in Afghanistan and Timor-Leste.
He represents Victoria on a number of key national bodies including the AHPPC (Australian Health Protection Principal Committee). He is also Chief Human Biosecurity Officer for Victoria. Professor Sutton has a keen interest in tropical medicine and the incorporation of palliative care practice into humanitarian responses.
Professor Sutton is a Fellow of the Royal Society for Public Health, a Fellow of the Australasian College of Tropical Medicine and a Fellow of the Australasian Faculty of Public Health Medicine (AFPHM). He is also a member of the Faculty of Travel Medicine.

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Supafreak Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 4:48pm

So BB can you give us the stats on under 20s that are unvaccinated currently in hospital and current double vaccinated with boosters 80 year olds currently in hospital . And perhaps the survival percentages of two groups.

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blindboy Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 4:53pm

A highly quaified individual with access to all the data made that statement. I believe him and am passing on what I consider to be impoortant factual information.. If you don't agree with Professor Sutton.....do your own digging.

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Roadkill Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 4:53pm

If I am wrong on fully vaxed, I will admit the error. My understanding was fully vaxed is 2 and a booster. If fully vaxed is 2 shots. That is the standard then.

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Supafreak Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:01pm
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A highly quaified individual with access to all the data made that statement. I believe him and am passing on what I consider to be impoortant factual information.. If you don't agree with Professor Sutton.....do your own digging.

Oh OK just thought you might have the data that backs his statement , guess we will just have to take his word…….cheers

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Robo Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:03pm

Boosters will be mandated soon, unless you are a politician making the rules you don't even need 1 jab to keep your job lol, amazing people think this is ok.

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Robo Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:08pm

Pro vaxers were blaming only having 1 jab for someone dying, now it's but they havn't had their booster, 4 months time will be they havn't had their Double booster.

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:16pm

What is pretty obvious to sane people is there's multiple tools to fight this virus. Here's a few of the main ones: masks, vaccines, social distancing, lockdowns, better treatment protocols, track and tracing, HQ, RATs, increased ICU capacities.
It really is interesting watching the covidiot contrarians over the last two years. They poo-poo virtually all the things that actually help and yet grab hold of unproven or just flat out crazy treatments as if they are some sort of magic silver bullet. Remember Hydroxychoroquine? Blood of Christ. bleach, vitamins, and of course ivermectin. My favourite treatment pushed by these muppets is drinking your own piss.
Their default positions are A. experts say something, well that can't be right. B. Governments make people do something they don't like eg masks, well that doesn't help. C. some doctor on Youtube said take this unproven pill because it's really good they jump on board for the horse de-wormer option.
You can't talk sense to these people. They are either thick, nuts, or both.

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Ben Harding Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:23pm
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A highly quaified individual with access to all the data made that statement. I believe him and am passing on what I consider to be impoortant factual information.. If you don't agree with Professor Sutton.....do your own digging.

Can't dispute his expertise, well credentialled.

This quote seems abit full on though:

"Someone who’s in their 20s or teens who’s unvaccinated has the same risk of being hospitalised as someone who’s gotten a booster dose or third dose is in their 80s.”

How many unvaxed and in their 20's have ended up in hospital? I wonder what percentage of people in their 80’s have been tripled vaxxed to draw those strong conclusions so quickly. I’ll go digging.

Query, as someone who sits on the opposite side of the choice fence to you, what percentage of the unvaxxed population do you think is holding out for non mRNA or viral vector vaccines? A couple % points or something more substantial? Anecdotally I know of around 20 (confirmed, probably more unconfirmed) give or take, elderly family members included. Have you got empathy for the people concerned or stressed with pfizer/modernas/az’s vaccine technology and are holding out for something more traditional to be approved by the TGA i.e. Novavax. Disregarding the actual safety of these vaccines, these are their views and they are not budging. Do you categorize these people with the same contempt as your stock standard anti-vaxxers that refuse any/all immunization for Covid-19 specifically?

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monkeyboy Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:25pm

Blood of Christ :) I hadnt heard that one before.

https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-says-theres-no-connection-between-blood-...

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bluediamond Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:30pm

VL, when you say, 'better treatment protocols' do you mean taking 1 instead of 2 panadols? Is there another treatment i'm unaware of other than going to hospital and getting put on a ventilator. And what have you got against Ivermectin as a 'possible' treatment solution? Why so close minded on it. I posted a link above about the WHO using it to combat the surge in India. I'm just wondering why being open to treatment options is seen as a bad thing. It's not antivax, it's moving forward and hopefully keeping people out of hospital before they get too sick.

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:33pm
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Blood of Christ :) I hadnt heard that one before.

https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-says-theres-no-connection-between-blood-...

There's no shortage of Penticostal / Born Again Christians at the anti-vax / anti-everything rallies.

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tubeshooter Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:33pm
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Blood of Christ :) I hadnt heard that one before.

https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-says-theres-no-connection-between-blood-...

Me neither...

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monkeyboy Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:42pm
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Blood of Christ :) I hadnt heard that one before.

https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-says-theres-no-connection-between-blood-...

Me neither...

THAT is GOLD !

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 5:56pm
bluediamond wrote:

VL, when you say, 'better treatment protocols' do you mean taking 1 instead of 2 panadols? Is there another treatment i'm unaware of other than going to hospital and getting put on a ventilator. And what have you got against Ivermectin as a 'possible' treatment solution? Why so close minded on it. I posted a link above about the WHO using it to combat the surge in India. I'm just wondering why being open to treatment options is seen as a bad thing. It's not antivax, it's moving forward and hopefully keeping people out of hospital before they get too sick.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/14/who-adds-new-drugs-to-covid-tre...
Might want to retract that BD.
"...against the use of convalescent plasma, ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine in patients with covid-19 regardless of disease severity,” the WHO said in a statement."
Going back to Ivermectin, a treatment that has been thoroughly researched and rejected isn't going forward BD. It's just rehashing old bullshit.

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bluediamond Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:06pm

Fair enough, although they did use it and successfully from what i can understand.
Not sure what the other treatment options are still though. Just figured any treatment plan would be better than what's currently in place. Seems absurd that there isn't another way to help people who catch Covid other than a couple of panadols and sit it out...although i guess that's the same as the flu pretty much..oh and an antiviral drug can be effective.

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:14pm
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A highly quaified individual with access to all the data made that statement. I believe him and am passing on what I consider to be impoortant factual information.. If you don't agree with Professor Sutton.....do your own digging.

Lol Sicko.

You’ve just taken the most disingenuous statement possible and presented it as a fact.

“Someone who’s in their 20s or teens who’s unvaccinated has the same risk of being hospitalised as someone who’s gotten a booster dose or third dose is in their 80s.”

The only possible way this statement could even remotely be considered factually is if it was so heavily contextualised and qualified that it is rendered pointless anyway. This is an extremely suspect abuse of automatic integrity afforded to the position that bloke holds.

Of course Sicko believes him and, by extension , he wants you to believe it too so that you’ll PANIC!
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Robo Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:18pm
Vic Local wrote:
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Blood of Christ :) I hadnt heard that one before.

https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-says-theres-no-connection-between-blood-...

There's no shortage of Penticostal / Born Again Christians at the anti-vax / anti-everything rallies.

Like the 2 that just got rid of ND for you, you can go to the tennis and feel safe now, all your bogan vaxed mates are there by the look of the crowd.

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monkeyboy Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:26pm

Is there a stat for the number of posts that can occur before the next one is full of hate ?

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bluediamond Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:34pm

The stats vary depending on who you ask @monkeyboy.

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Supafreak Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:38pm

Someone needs to contact the NIH and Monash university as they are still conducting ivermectin trials and let them know Dr Dick Vocal m.a.d. Has personally debunked the horse paste known as ivermectin. No need to contact the Oxford group who have temporarily stopped their trials as they have run out of stock of ivermectin . Fortunately there is now a recruitment drive for trials of Merck new early treatment drug molnuprivir.

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:41pm
Blowin wrote:
blindboy wrote:

A highly quaified individual with access to all the data made that statement. I believe him and am passing on what I consider to be impoortant factual information.. If you don't agree with Professor Sutton.....do your own digging.

Lol Sicko.

You’ve just taken the most disingenuous statement possible and presented it as a fact.

“Someone who’s in their 20s or teens who’s unvaccinated has the same risk of being hospitalised as someone who’s gotten a booster dose or third dose is in their 80s.”

The only possible way this statement could even remotely be considered factually is if it was so heavily contextualised and qualified that it is rendered pointless anyway. This is an extremely suspect abuse of automatic integrity afforded to the position that bloke holds.

Of course Sicko believes him and, by extension , he wants you to believe it too so that you’ll PANIC!
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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:40pm
Blowin wrote:
blindboy wrote:

A highly quaified individual with access to all the data made that statement. I believe him and am passing on what I consider to be impoortant factual information.. If you don't agree with Professor Sutton.....do your own digging.

Lol Sicko.

You’ve just taken the most disingenuous statement possible and presented it as a fact.

“Someone who’s in their 20s or teens who’s unvaccinated has the same risk of being hospitalised as someone who’s gotten a booster dose or third dose is in their 80s.”

The only possible way this statement could even remotely be considered factually is if it was so heavily contextualised and qualified that it is rendered pointless anyway. This is an extremely suspect abuse of automatic integrity afforded to the position that bloke holds.

Of course Sicko believes him and, by extension , he wants you to believe it too so that you’ll PANIC!
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Hey blowin, Are we supposed to believe you instead of the CMO in Vic who has been very accurate all pandemic? Just last week you said only 3% of ICU beds in NSW were being filled by unvaxxed patients. That's pure unmitigated bullshit which you can't back up. Your commentary during this entire pandemic has been laughable. Just one steaming pile of bullshit after another. And you've never admitted you're wrong. No once. Fuck me mate, there should be a clinical term named after you. maybe blowinitis? Shameless bull shitting over an extended period of time causing great amusement to others.
And the funny thing is, you genuinely believe you know more than Sutton. blowin. You're an absolute flog.