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Because I see vaccine passports as a Trojan horse.
Do you have any opinions on the question I presented?
Blowin wrote:Because I see vaccine passports as a Trojan horse.
Do you have any opinions on the question I presented?
So you will join the Trojan Horse which is ?
what question ?
The question you read and immediately dismissed. This question:
Blowin wrote:
Could someone explain the notion behind vaccine passports if vaccinated catch Covid willy nilly and have to be tested everyday anyway? Exactly what is the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated that will be policed by a digital ID which tracks your every move and without which it’s illegal to leave your house?
Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:Just passing on a message i got this morning from a friend of mine up on the Tweed.
She wrote.
"My mum had an mri yesterday after having seizures a day after the jab and they found a small mass on the right side of her brain which is causing the seizures. She now has to take anti seizure medication and can’t drive or work. She has to see a neurologist next week. Mum never had an health issues before getting this jab and now her whole life has changed. Love to know how people can say this thing is safe and for the best".Nowhere does it say or have evidence to point towards the jab being responsible. My understanding is anything termed a mass, as opposed to a clot, develops over time. This could be coincidence and the seizures would have happened anyhow or the jab had some cause on the mass and thus she had seizures (the jab may have helped identified a mass and saved her life?)
Scary nonetheless.
Dunno mate. I'm not down with all the science. Definitely eery coincidence. She got pfeizer too fwiw.
Blowin wrote:The question you read and immediately dismissed. This question:
Blowin wrote:
Could someone explain the notion behind vaccine passports if vaccinated catch Covid willy nilly and have to be tested everyday anyway? Exactly what is the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated that will be policed by a digital ID which tracks your every move and without which it’s illegal to leave your house?
I'll explain it to you blowin in very simple language so you can understand it (I hope).
Unvaccinated people are much more likely to get and spread covid. That's why vaccine passports are necessary. They help reduce (not eliminate) the spread of Covid. This isn't rocket science mate. Small children can understand this fact.
Oh and BTW blowin, when you say "a digital ID which tracks your every move and without which it’s illegal to leave your house", you're just pushing an absolute, 100%, full on bat shit crazy, conspiracy theory.
Lose or at least loosen the tin foil hat mate.
You’ve explained nothing. A passport to declare that someone has less risk of carrying a virus? Ridiculous.
Almost as ridiculous as when you claimed that you’d be scared to sit next to someone on a plane if they were unvaccinated…..despite you being vaccinated. If you are vaccinated why are you scared to be near the unvaccinated? Because you think you might still catch it and potentially spread it.
The fact that people don’t notice the massive holes in their logic when declaring the unvaccinated as some huge threat to their vaccinated selves is utterly strange. Right up until you realise that it’s more about symbolism than anything else.
This is totally normal in the unfathomably bizarre world of the vaccine segregator’s belief system- A couple of vaccinated TV hosts railing against the unvaccinated and whining about the threat they pose to society before being removed on air for being Covid positive. Just goes to show how uncommon infectious vaccinated people are when half of the vaccinated panel develop Covid…..
Yet this is the unrelenting position we are being told to unquestionably accept by the vaccine mandaters and the vaccine passport supporters. Who’d have suspected that a virus would be the impetus for every closet Nazi in the Western world to show their true colours and demand separation of society based on beliefs? At least the original Nazis had the decency to segregate people based on a genuine point of difference, even if the difference was which religion you practiced. The Vaccine Nazis don’t even care that there is no sound basis for their attempt at segregation as the virus is caught and spread by both vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.
What a shit show.
Sunny Hostin and Ana Navarro just got pulled off set after finding out they are COVID positive before their planned interview with Kamala Harris
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) September 24, 2021
What a disaster pic.twitter.com/NzvbTHg3Py
Blowin wrote:You’ve explained nothing. A passport to declare that someone has less risk of carrying a virus? Ridiculous.
Almost as ridiculous as when you claimed that you’d be scared to sit next to someone on a plane if they were unvaccinated…..despite you being vaccinated. If you are vaccinated why are you scared to be near the unvaccinated? Because you think you might still catch it and potentially spread it.
The fact that people don’t notice the massive holes in their logic when declaring the unvaccinated as some huge threat to their vaccinated selves is utterly strange. Right up until you realise that it’s more about symbolism than anything else.
Blowin, I think there are a number of reasons......
Firstly as the AZ/Pfizer are only about 66% effective against the Delta variant , so that means 2 in 5 people who are double vaccinated still risk catching Covid . the good news is that the vaccinated are a lot less likely to get hospitalized and die. So unvaccinated people will catch the virus , so that demographic is high risk to all , whereas the vaccinated is a lot less.
Conclusion is that people who have had the vax's are a lot less likely to spread Covid , and anti-vaxxers very high.
So people who are not vaccinated pose a problem to any vaccinated person , especially those with underlying health problems.
Secondly by creating vaccination passports , this allows business's and the vaccinated to mitigate the risk to them , and put pressure on the unvaccinated to vaccinated!
Bring back the yellow fever certificate. I remember carying that around Africa.
The European vax passport scheme seems reasonably intelligent. You dont have be vaccinated but if you aren't then you have to show you've had a PCR test in the last 3 days or proof that you have natural immunity. That way its not discrimminatory (aside perhaps from the vaccines that are "approved") and it allows for those who are unable or not wishing to take the current vaccines (which doesnt make you anti vax necessarily). This is all documented on the EU website.
monkeyboy wrote:Bring back the yellow fever certificate. I remember carying that around Africa.
The European vax passport scheme seems reasonably intelligent. You dont have be vaccinated but if you aren't then you have to show you've had a PCR test in the last 3 days or proof that you have natural immunity. That way its not discrimminatory (aside perhaps from the vaccines that are "approved") and it allows for those who are unable or not wishing to take the current vaccines (which doesnt make you anti vax necessarily). This is all documented on the EU website.
How does that make sense when a substantial percentage of the vaccinated still carry the virus? The Northern rivers is currently in lockdown because a vaccinated person wandered through their shire whilst positive for Covid. By rights this means that vaccinated people should have to constantly test negative before they mingle in society.
This completely undermines any possible rationale behind a vaccine passport. None of it makes sense until you suspect that the motives for introducing a mandatory Digital ID are not based on public health outcomes.
"The European vax passport scheme seems reasonably intelligent."
yep, and ours seems reasonably dumb...
"This completely undermines any possible rationale behind a vaccine passport."
well, the shitness of the 'vaccines' actually undermines any possible rationale behind a vaccine passport... but some just don't want to see that...
"None of it makes sense until you suspect that the motives for introducing a mandatory Digital ID are not based on public health outcomes."
yep, but all an act of conveniance I would say... rather than that other c word...
sypkan wrote:"The European vax passport scheme seems reasonably intelligent."
yep, and ours seems reasonably dumb...
the French have a vaccine passport ...if you are caught in a zone for vaccinated people only you can get 6 mths jail and or a 4,000 Euro fine.....so are you saying lets adopt the french/Euro version , as ours is dumb because we need greater penalties ??
Brutus- How does that make you feel knowing that an unvaccinated person gets 6 months in gaol for venturing into an area, whilst it may also have vaccinated people who are infectious and spreading the virus?
That doesn’t seem like perverted logic to you?
Blowin wrote:monkeyboy wrote:Bring back the yellow fever certificate. I remember carying that around Africa.
The European vax passport scheme seems reasonably intelligent. You dont have be vaccinated but if you aren't then you have to show you've had a PCR test in the last 3 days or proof that you have natural immunity. That way its not discrimminatory (aside perhaps from the vaccines that are "approved") and it allows for those who are unable or not wishing to take the current vaccines (which doesnt make you anti vax necessarily). This is all documented on the EU website.How does that make sense when a substantial percentage of the vaccinated still carry the virus? The Northern rivers is currently in lockdown because a vaccinated person wandered through their shire whilst positive for Covid. By rights this means that vaccinated people should have to constantly test negative before they mingle in society.
This completely undermines any possible rationale behind a vaccine passport. None of it makes sense until you suspect that the motives for introducing a mandatory Digital ID are not based on public health outcomes.
I dont agree or disagree with you. Clearly the EU believes it is manageable even with their considerably higher numbers than AU. Freedom of movement across borders. The vaccine passport works for people who are also not vaccinated but have proven they are free of covid (PCR test) or have recovered and therefore have the same level of immunity as a vaccinated person (and thats another subject because they may have more immunity than someone who has not been exposed to the full virus but has had a spike protein activated only).
Hey Brutus,
I tried to explain to blowin why vaccine passports are a good idea but the bloke is that stupid, he can't see how they can be used to minimise risk of transmission.
Let's extrapolate blowin's idiotic ideas to the aged care sector. He genuinely thinks vaccine passports should not be used, and that would result in anyone, vaccinated or not, being allowed into aged care homes. The same situation applies to places of high transmission like meat works, prisons, and hospitals.
Hey blowin you seriously stupid man, can you spot the problem yet?
brutus wrote:sypkan wrote:"The European vax passport scheme seems reasonably intelligent."
yep, and ours seems reasonably dumb...
the French have a vaccine passport ...if you are caught in a zone for vaccinated people only you can get 6 mths jail and or a 4,000 Euro fine.....so are you saying lets adopt the french/Euro version , as ours is dumb because we need greater penalties ??
no Im saying ours is dumb because we don't recognise people who've been infected, when mounting evidence shows this is actually better than any of the lacklustre 'vaccines' are proving to be
and that they also have provisions for negative test results, which is probably better than both...
so many comnentators saying oz way behind in the testing game... uk has self test kits, freely available, every day if you wish... yes only antigen, but seems it's cheap, effective, and easy enough to do for work purposes and minor public place situations...
oz is so big on abitrary and big blanket rules... and heavy handedness... not least fucking dan andrews... we are just forever showing what a below average uncreative 'middle' power we really are...
The EU has also published an expiry date on their Vaccine passports.
“Let's extrapolate blowin's ideas to the aged care sector. He genuinely thinks vaccine passports should not be used, and that would result in anyone, vaccinated or not, being allowed into aged care homes.”
I can surely understand why a negative test might be required for entry into an aged care home but there is still zero justification for a Digital ID which states that the holder might / might not be infectious. The passport is literally useless.
No amount of insults pointed my way alters this fact.
"The passport is literally useless."
Oh this is just getting painful.
It's like telling a toddler he's crying because he's tired and needs to go to sleep, only to be told "I'm not tired, waaaaaaaaah"
blowin you seriously stupid man. Passports allow businesses and employers to identify who hasn't had the vaccine. ie someone who is more likely to get covid and pass it on.
They help reduce the risk of transmission, especially in high risk situations. It's not complicated you stupid man. Passports aren't perfect but they are very useful. I can't believe you haven't worked this out yet.
Christ, do I need to explain the plot behind the Road Runner Cartoons to you too?
A person’s medical history is not the business of a shopkeeper. Particularly if that medical history has no bearing whatsoever on whether someone is infected with a virus or not.
Blowin wrote:A person’s medical history is not the business of a shopkeeper. Particularly if that medical history has no bearing whatsoever on whether someone is infected with a virus or not.
That may be the case unless the person is much more likely to be infectious and a danger to others. The shopkeeper has a very clear duty of care to his or her staff and customers. Those are laws that need to be abided by, and they trump your feelings blowin.
I know this may be a bit of a shock to you blowin, but other people matter too, and governments tend to make laws to protect people even if that means curtailing individual freedoms. You may have noticed speed limits on our roads. It's exactly the same concept champ. You do believe speed limits are necessary don't you?
VL.. you have a brain, don't waste energy debating with a dolt.
wax up, waves in the morning cobber.
sheep shagger wrote:VL.. you have a brain, don't waste energy debating with a dolt.
wax up, waves in the morning cobber.
Surfed so much this week. Lots of beltings and long paddles, so having a relaxing day yanking a dopey bloke's chain.
One of my good mates was telling me about the fella he works with who recently got vaccinated with his girl. He ended up with severe reactions, not sure if hospitalised but definite medics treatment of some kind. His girl suffered Bell’s palsey. Apparently her face is recovering already but it’s not something a young person-or any person- wants to go through.
Episodes like this are the exact reason why mandating/ proxy mandate/ coercion of vaccination is evil.
Let no one tell you otherwise. Your body, your choice. Society is for everyone and it’s an inalienable human right to participate in society.
“……..so having a relaxing day yanking a dopey bloke's chain.”
It’s called masturbation bloke. Dressing up the language doesn’t alter the fact that you’re pulling your pud. Better clean up before your missus gets home or you’ll be sleeping outside again.
Interesting. Just passing on. Not sure of the background of the copper.
What a true champion. Acting like a leader. Well done and good luck to him. We will all share in his success.
He looks like a surfer with his demeanour and that steamer neck tan.
Much to be admired in that fella. Thank you very much.
Agreed Blowin. Takes many voices.
Just a follow up to my earlier post from my friend.
Make of it what you will. Just passing on her message.
"Just to follow on from yesterday’s facey rant, here’s the result of my Mummas tests after getting the vaxx on Tuesday night....
She felt off after the jab, had pressure in her head, stabbing pains throughout her body on and off and then seizures through her arm for hours on Thursday afternoon which resulted in an ambulance call out to take her to hospital.
She had an MRI done yesterday and they have found a small mass in her head on the right side between her skull and brain which is causing these seizures. She never had anything like this before the vaxx. Coincidence? I think not. And neither did the doctor. She cant drive with the risk of seizure and has to see a neurologist to see where too from here. Her whole life has changed for a vaxx that was forced upon her to keep her job, a vaxx she would never have chosen to get as she knows her own body. She is not fine and this is not ok. She wasn’t the only one in that hospital suffering from terrible reactions to this ‘safe’ jab but you don’t hear about that in the news, I wonder why.
People are scared and for good reason. Don’t make anyone feel silly for being terrified or unsure because regardless of what you hear, it’s not safe for everyone.
If this jab actually stopped you from getting the virus, I’d maybe understand the need to get it, but it doesn’t, so I don’t."
But im sure swellnets closet scientists can explain this away.
And from the mouth of her mum...
"Thankyou everyone for your concern, I'd like to say I'm ok but I'm not really. I'm not anti vax as I work in aged care and we need to have several vaccines and imunisations which I have had. This covid one however frightened the hell out of me because I know my body and I have reactions to other vaccines which have been around for years. If you want vaccine, I would never argue against it, it is your choice, but no one should be mandated or frightened into to having vaccine ever. I work in a small nursing home and to have 2 carers out of a relatively small work force have such bad reactions tells me the safety of this vaccine is questionable at the least. I find myself unable to work and yet there is no help for me because i had to sign a consent form, giving indemnity to vaccinator and health care provider. I did not want vaccine but without it can't work, can't get into shops can't cross borders and who knows what other restrictions will be put on us. As it stands can't do any of this anyway because there is no way I will ever allow anyone to force medical intervention on me again. I hope that this doesn't happen to any of you because prior to vaccine I was fit, healthy and never needed medications, my immune system has always worked for me. If something needs to be forced and needs consent please question why, if you are hesitant or have doubts about vaccine wait until you don't. ❤"
Debate away. We all know someone affected on both sides of the fence of covid. Funnily enough, in my small world, I only know people who've been fucked over by the vaccine. This isn't the first by far.
nothing to debate though is there. it's just a steaming pile of paranoid ignorant garbage.
The vax was responsible for a “small mass” in her head?
Jeez mate, I honestly thought you were better than passing on stuff like that.
“I’m not anti vax” BUT, because I know my body, no one should be mandated or frightened into having it, knows many people who have had bad reactions, I will never allow anyone to force medical intervention on me, hope this doesn’t happen to you, prior to vaccine I was fit and healthy, never needed meds before, (and-the best line) my immune system has always worked for me.
Good mate’s nephew has Covid. Literally just a flu. He was sharing lifts in a car , sharing a house with his wife and kid, sharing crib rooms with fellow workers. No one else caught it.
The same mate works with a bloke who recently needed medical attention for vaccine reaction and whose missus got Bells palsey from the jab.
Facts.
Why wouldn’t you trust the MSM?
Read this article about when the minister developed Bell’s palsey after / resulting from the jab and count how many times the covid jab is mentioned……
https://www.9news.com.au/national/nsw-minister-victor-dominello-shares-b...
Blowin wrote:Good mate’s nephew has Covid. Literally just a flu. He was sharing lifts in a car , sharing a house with his wife and kid, sharing crib rooms with fellow workers. No one else caught it.
The same mate works with a bloke who recently needed medical attention for vaccine reaction and whose missus got Bells palsey from the jab.
Facts.
Mum gets really sick from vax. Partners uncle dies from vax, old woman upstairs brother dies from vax,
Good mates nephew gets covid..it’s just a flu, shares house and car with others and family..no one else caught it.
Good mates work mate gets vax and needs medical intervention. Good mates work mate who needed medical intervention has a missus who gets vax and gets Bell’s Palsy.
Fuck you talk so much bs and lies. You really should stop making stuff up.
Roadkill wrote:Blowin wrote:Good mate’s nephew has Covid. Literally just a flu. He was sharing lifts in a car , sharing a house with his wife and kid, sharing crib rooms with fellow workers. No one else caught it.
The same mate works with a bloke who recently needed medical attention for vaccine reaction and whose missus got Bells palsey from the jab.
Facts.
Mum gets really sick from vax. Partners uncle dies from vax, old woman upstairs brother dies from vax,
Good mates nephew gets covid..it’s just a flu, shares house and car with others and family..no one else caught it.
Good mates work mate gets vax and needs medical intervention. Good mates work mate who needed medical intervention has a missus who gets vax and gets Bell’s Palsy.Fuck you talk so much bs and lies. You really should stop making stuff up.
Roadkill, i personally know 6 people that have had fairly bad adverse reactions to the vaccine. I also know 5 people that have had covid in the UK, Indo, Guana and one in aus ... non went into an ICU or had anything other than a chesty type flu episode. One of the mentioned friends in the UK is also a paramedic over there in london, many of his colleagues have had it with no major issues
cycd wrote:Roadkill wrote:Blowin wrote:Good mate’s nephew has Covid. Literally just a flu. He was sharing lifts in a car , sharing a house with his wife and kid, sharing crib rooms with fellow workers. No one else caught it.
The same mate works with a bloke who recently needed medical attention for vaccine reaction and whose missus got Bells palsey from the jab.
Facts.
Mum gets really sick from vax. Partners uncle dies from vax, old woman upstairs brother dies from vax,
Good mates nephew gets covid..it’s just a flu, shares house and car with others and family..no one else caught it.
Good mates work mate gets vax and needs medical intervention. Good mates work mate who needed medical intervention has a missus who gets vax and gets Bell’s Palsy.Fuck you talk so much bs and lies. You really should stop making stuff up.
Roadkill, i personally know 6 people that have had fairly bad adverse reactions to the vaccine. I also know 5 people that have had covid in the UK, Indo, Guana and one in aus ... non went into an ICU or had anything other than a chesty type flu episode. One of the mentioned friends in the UK is also a paramedic over there in london, many of his colleagues have had it with no major issues
I know people who have had reactions also..I am not disputing that. But old mate blowin is so full of shit and scaremongering and spreading lies it needs to be called out.
cycd, I have no reason to not believe you.
AndyM wrote:The vax was responsible for a “small mass” in her head?
Jeez mate, I honestly thought you were better than passing on stuff like that.
I never said that Andy. Just passing on her message.
What kind of person would i be to have that information at a time like this and not share it??
I don't know what has happened but obviously somethings gone wrong at the exact same time she got the vax.
Roadkill wrote:cycd wrote:Roadkill wrote:Blowin wrote:Good mate’s nephew has Covid. Literally just a flu. He was sharing lifts in a car , sharing a house with his wife and kid, sharing crib rooms with fellow workers. No one else caught it.
The same mate works with a bloke who recently needed medical attention for vaccine reaction and whose missus got Bells palsey from the jab.
Facts.
Mum gets really sick from vax. Partners uncle dies from vax, old woman upstairs brother dies from vax,
Good mates nephew gets covid..it’s just a flu, shares house and car with others and family..no one else caught it.
Good mates work mate gets vax and needs medical intervention. Good mates work mate who needed medical intervention has a missus who gets vax and gets Bell’s Palsy.Fuck you talk so much bs and lies. You really should stop making stuff up.
Roadkill, i personally know 6 people that have had fairly bad adverse reactions to the vaccine. I also know 5 people that have had covid in the UK, Indo, Guana and one in aus ... non went into an ICU or had anything other than a chesty type flu episode. One of the mentioned friends in the UK is also a paramedic over there in london, many of his colleagues have had it with no major issues
I know people who have had reactions also..I am not disputing that. But old mate blowin is so full of shit and scaremongering and spreading lies it needs to be called out.
cycd, I have no reason to not believe you.
All good mate just speaking the truth. Im a facts focused person mostly (my line of work demands it) and i'm not for or against anything really at this stage.
I have seen in this situation we are in some disgusting biased reporting done by the MSM and am also aware of some very dodgy stuff the government has been doing since this covid situation sprung up.
Here's some interesting reading, scroll down and see what names this pty ltd company have registered, started 3 months after corona arrived:
https://www.aubiz.net/company/pecker-maroo-pty-ltd-000576492/
If you think that's strange then look up the ABN, information has been supressed? I'll leave it there for now.
bluediamond wrote:AndyM wrote:The vax was responsible for a “small mass” in her head?
Jeez mate, I honestly thought you were better than passing on stuff like that.
I never said that Andy. Just passing on her message.
What kind of person would i be to have that information at a time like this and not share it??
I don't know what has happened but obviously somethings gone wrong at the exact same time she got the vax.
When you added “ But im sure swellnets closet scientists can explain this away.” you stopped, just sharing info, just passing on her message.
Roadkill wrote:Blowin wrote:Good mate’s nephew has Covid. Literally just a flu. He was sharing lifts in a car , sharing a house with his wife and kid, sharing crib rooms with fellow workers. No one else caught it.
The same mate works with a bloke who recently needed medical attention for vaccine reaction and whose missus got Bells palsey from the jab.
Facts.
Mum gets really sick from vax. Partners uncle dies from vax, old woman upstairs brother dies from vax,
Good mates nephew gets covid..it’s just a flu, shares house and car with others and family..no one else caught it.
Good mates work mate gets vax and needs medical intervention. Good mates work mate who needed medical intervention has a missus who gets vax and gets Bell’s Palsy.Fuck you talk so much bs and lies. You really should stop making stuff up.
Lies? Why would I lie? I constantly reassess my evaluations of everything around me and I assume others do the same, that’s why I post my experiences. These facts that I’ve described shape my perspective. If you are so wedded to a point of view that you’d prefer to accuse me of lying than confront the truth then that’s your problem.
I’d prefer not to be called a liar by some stranger on the internet but that’s just how the world works I guess. It certainly doesn’t make me think too highly about you but not much I can do. I’ll just continue to relay my personal experiences and appreciate when others do the same. That’s how we can all develop an insight into the truth of any situation.
Stoked for you if you don’t know anyone who has had a bad reaction to the vaccine as it’s not something you’d wish on anyone. Dismissing the reality of the experience others have gone through is a destructive way to exist. You’ve got no reason to not believe me beyond choosing not to and acting like a rude little child in doing so. I knowa few of the people who frequent Swellnet including Stunet. If I was a liar you would know about it from them. The only reason you claim I’m a liar is because you don’t like the truth I’m telling. That’s a very ignorant way to live.
Pretty sure the new defamation laws were created to prevent strangers labelling someone on the internet a liar and besmirching their character.
What times eh... dying with COVID, dying because of vaccine.
Seeing everyone is sharing their personal experience.
Other than what I've read here, social media or media, I know nobody or yet to met anybody that has had any reaction to the vaccine other than a sore arm, headache or felt tired or hung over like for a day or so both here in Australia or in Indonesia.
I know nobody that has had Covid in Australia but in Indonesia one of my wife uncles died from Covid (about 60 heavy smoker), my wife's mum got very sick and had to go into hospital(about 60 one jab and overweight), an Indonesians friends from Australia brother in Indonesia died last July from Covid no known health conditions and only in his early 40s.
Plenty of other Indonesian family and friends have had Covid including my wife's brother as has pretty much everyone in my wife's neighbour hood, the young and healthy like her brother generally got nothing more than mild symptoms to a bad flue at worst, some older people the same, however some old and weak often heavy smokers got real sick and a number died, most died at home.
All that said i think there has been a whole heap of scaremongering in the media both about Covid vaccines especially AZ that has created such an unfounded fear (thats even affected me to a degree) and also scare mongering on the real risk of Covid to most of the population.
Thank god we are in the learn to live with it stage, well Vic & NSW at least.
“ What kind of person would i be to have that information at a time like this and not share it??”
I think exactly the opposite - what kind of person would you be to share totally unsubstantiated stuff like that at a time like this?
Irresponsible, provocative, divisive.
As Roadkill pointed out, you’ve already exposed your position and your agenda.
AndyM wrote:“ What kind of person would i be to have that information at a time like this and not share it??”
I think exactly the opposite - what kind of person would you be to share totally unsubstantiated stuff like that at a time like this?
Irresponsible, provocative, divisive.As Roadkill pointed out, you’ve already exposed your position and your agenda.
And it's pretty obvious that most stuff like that story shared around on social media is just made up by those against the vaccine to create fear and try to convince those sitting on the fence not to get the jab.
The likelihood of that story being true would be pretty low.
Blowin wrote:Roadkill wrote:Blowin wrote:Good mate’s nephew has Covid. Literally just a flu. He was sharing lifts in a car , sharing a house with his wife and kid, sharing crib rooms with fellow workers. No one else caught it.
The same mate works with a bloke who recently needed medical attention for vaccine reaction and whose missus got Bells palsey from the jab.
Facts.
Mum gets really sick from vax. Partners uncle dies from vax, old woman upstairs brother dies from vax,
Good mates nephew gets covid..it’s just a flu, shares house and car with others and family..no one else caught it.
Good mates work mate gets vax and needs medical intervention. Good mates work mate who needed medical intervention has a missus who gets vax and gets Bell’s Palsy.Fuck you talk so much bs and lies. You really should stop making stuff up.
Lies? Why would I lie? I constantly reassess my evaluations of everything around me and I assume others do the same, that’s why I post my experiences. These facts that I’ve described shape my perspective. If you are so wedded to a point of view that you’d prefer to accuse me of lying than confront the truth then that’s your problem.
I’d prefer not to be called a liar by some stranger on the internet but that’s just how the world works I guess. It certainly doesn’t make me think too highly about you but not much I can do. I’ll just continue to relay my personal experiences and appreciate when others do the same. That’s how we can all develop an insight into the truth of any situation.
Stoked for you if you don’t know anyone who has had a bad reaction to the vaccine as it’s not something you’d wish on anyone. Dismissing the reality of the experience others have gone through is a destructive way to exist. You’ve got no reason to not believe me beyond choosing not to and acting like a rude little child in doing so. I knowa few of the people who frequent Swellnet including Stunet. If I was a liar you would know about it from them. The only reason you claim I’m a liar is because you don’t like the truth I’m telling. That’s a very ignorant way to live.
Pretty sure the new defamation laws were created to prevent strangers labelling someone on the internet a liar and besmirching their character.
you make claims and lies daily about covid vaccines, govt trying to control us, covid is just a flu, stats on survival rates…even when false info is pointed out to you, you persist in posting it over and over again.
If you posted evidence and verifiable facts…it would be pretty hard to fault you or call you out. So, feel free to back up what you post with evidence.
From ABC News:
"Queensland has confirmed that the hard border with New South Wales is likely to remain in place until at least the end of October, confirming the worst fears of businesses in the state's south."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/qld-border-to-remain-closed-until...