Interesting stuff

hope the guy is ok? .....cop should be in jail facing charges....sue the arse off him.

indo-dreaming wrote:

Blowin wrote:

Pig cop needs gaoling.

If a non-pig cop did that to someone in a pub it’d be the equivalent of a coward punch straight to prison.

no chance to protect the head. Australia's better than this
Hard to argue with that, on that surface and with that force a head knock could even result in death.

Surely this cop will be put on leave while the incident is investigated and possibly lose his job or even have charges laid.

Unless we are not seeing everything and he is armed ad a threat to the other officers.

Im all for cops not being soft cocks and being able to use some force, but judging from what we can see here thats way over the mark.

indeed, thats pretty nuts

Roadkill wrote:

By itself, the clip looks heavy handed. No context to what really happened in the lead up and during the confrontation.
I have no problem with cops being charged with assault and causing injury when the force used is unnecessary…we do need all the details before judging tho.

Cops do that sort of stuff every day whats the issue?

evosurfer wrote:

Cops do that sort of stuff every day whats the issue?

1. It’d be an issue for you if it was one of your sons.

2. You’re a dickhead if you can’t see what’s wrong with that.

That footage was on ABC news tonight and VicPol are asking for witnesses to come forward.

On what we know (very little) /see it looks bad and no doubt that cop will need to answer to the law. That wouldn't be standard procedure.

I worked for their super fund for awhile and too many police each year are disability retired with PTSD, anxiety and depression or a combination of all 3 illnesses, to the point where new recruits are now subject to strict psychological testing to help them cope with the daily stresses of the job. Massive divorce rates among police along with huge drinking patterns. You can't pay them enough money to deal with the shit and shit people they're required to deal with everyday and every time they put on a uniform. There are some police stations / regions where over 60% of all police work is dealing with domestic violence before drugs and alcohol are factored in. Each day, every day, every week, each year the same issues and the same shit headed people.

Modern policing is very very accountable to itself, to the community and the law and if any police step over the line there are consequences.

Hutchy 19 wrote:

Sorry Jono . Should have realised Cane Toads were not interesting . Also should have realised they were political .

To help , perhaps you can enlighten me on the classification criteria ! I am new to SN .

Face palm... It wasn't your cane toads, it was regarding your Trump/Biden comment that was going to derail this thread into a political mess. Even you can't seem to keep up with what you're posting.

GuySmiley wrote:

There are some police stations / regions where over 60% of all police work is dealing with domestic violence before drugs and alcohol are factored in.

Yep. This is why defunding the police and allocating those funds to the community services sector is needed.

Well, your interpretation of it anyway. A small amount of thought would allow you to consider its actual intent. Would result in a reduction in the amount of grievance able to be felt though - so I won't hold my breath.

Blowin wrote:

Hiccups wrote:

GuySmiley wrote:

There are some police stations / regions where over 60% of all police work is dealing with domestic violence before drugs and alcohol are factored in.

Yep. This is why defunding the police and allocating those funds to the community services sector is needed.

Genuinely didn’t think I’d ever hear an Australian regurgitate this concept.

Yep…100% agree. So woke and so dumb. American stupidity is not needed here.

Blowin wrote:

Hiccups wrote:

GuySmiley wrote:

There are some police stations / regions where over 60% of all police work is dealing with domestic violence before drugs and alcohol are factored in.

Yep. This is why defunding the police and allocating those funds to the community services sector is needed.

Genuinely didn’t think I’d ever hear an Australian regurgitate this concept.

Its pretty scary, yeah lets defund a police force that if anything needs more funding, its worked out well in the USA.

While we are at it, let's also defund the fire department and ambulance service, and just tell people not to lite fires and eat healthier.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/22/how-about-an-earth...

Love Loretta, the bird giving the bird

indo-dreaming wrote:

Blowin wrote:

Hiccups wrote:

GuySmiley wrote:

There are some police stations / regions where over 60% of all police work is dealing with domestic violence before drugs and alcohol are factored in.

Yep. This is why defunding the police and allocating those funds to the community services sector is needed.

Genuinely didn’t think I’d ever hear an Australian regurgitate this concept.

Its pretty scary, yeah lets defund a police force that if anything needs more funding, its worked out well in the USA.

While we are at it, let's also defund the fire department and ambulance service, and just tell people not to lite fires and eat healthier.

You don't actually understand this topic do you indo. Why am I not surprised.

As for you blowin, why would you go straight into a diatribe about domestic violence in a "particular demographic"? A large percent of police time is wasted on shit they don't need to do, or would escalate problems in every demographic.

You appear to hate cops, except the one nice man that you surf with and some other random cunt that used to be one, you point out that they've been given a stupid amount of funds to accumulate unnecessary military hardware, and rant and rave when they use it, but hell no. Don't defund them. The current system is working just fine. In fact, lets throw more money at everyday policing!

Definition of a hiccup .

Hiccups, or hiccoughs, are involuntary sounds made by spasms of the diaphragm.

"A large percent of police time is wasted on shit they don't need to do, or would escalate problems in every demographic."

A very large percentage of police do a wonderful job in a very difficult profession . As in all professions there are some bad apples .

I am very happy to give them MORE support !

Hutchy 19 wrote:

Definition of a hiccup .

Hiccups, or hiccoughs, are involuntary sounds made by spasms of the diaphragm.

Are you repeating this pathetic attempt at a putdown because I didn't respond to it in the other thread?

@Hiccups

I understand the concept and it's ridiculous and dangerous and the USA is already seeing the negative effects of widespread anti police rhetoric pushed by marxist groups like BLM.

We dont need that shit in Australia.

defund the police

I just think its all kinds of dumb from a marketing perspective

maybe it's designed to fire up the foot soldiers, or to sort out the opponents from the 'allies'... the old 'us and them'... which is very vogue at the moment...

but in terms garnering any wider support and actually winning any political argument, it's a tragic own goal...

I think it is just a prime example of how distamt and bubbled up the political extremes have become, because if you're throwing around terms like 'defund the police'...

you're either so deep in the ideoligical bunker you cannot see the light

you spend too much time on the internet

or, you just don't even care about political arguments and you're just sending smoke signals to your tribe

but carry on...

winning...

.

I honestly think the founders of groups like BLM and many other social justice type groups are just smart in making money from basically nothing.

The founders most likely went to uni did some irrelevant degree, entered the real world didnt want to get a real job cause lets face it most jobs suck, so they start up a social justice type group they have interest in hoping they can at least get by on the income that they grift.

Then the ball starts rolling and they see the opportunity to make more money by saying things or slogans people want to hear or gets them razzed up (the whole system is this or that and needs to be rebuilt thing)

And if they are lucky they end up rolling in cash with a nice real estate portfolio etc

I think it would be a bit like starting a band up thinking you will be a big rock star though, im betting for every one of these groups that get big and rich there is a million that fail or only remain a hobby.

Interesting stuff from my favourite lefty

indo-dreaming wrote:

I honestly think the founders of groups like BLM and many other social justice type groups are just smart in making money from basically nothing.

The founders most likely went to uni did some irrelevant degree, entered the real world didnt want to get a real job cause lets face it most jobs suck, so they start up a social justice type group they have interest in hoping they can at least get by on the income that they grift.

Then the ball starts rolling and they see the opportunity to make more money by saying things or slogans people want to hear or gets them razzed up (the whole system is this or that and needs to be rebuilt thing)

And if they are lucky they end up rolling in cash with a nice real estate portfolio etc

I think it would be a bit like starting a band up thinking you will be a big rock star though, im betting for every one of these groups that get big and rich there is a million that fail or only remain a hobby.

Spectacular take indo, if you ignore the fact the the most prominent grifters sit well and truly to the right.

Your last paragraph is also a completely irrelevant parallel.

sypkan wrote:

you spend too much time on the internet
..

Haha! You're on here EVERYDAY talking all manner of shit, ya fucken moron ya.

Not sure why we can’t have properly funded police forces and criminal justice systems AND community development and intervention type programs to stop offending and reoffending, along with proper funding for health and education etc, but wait, Australians continually vote against that way, they want tax cuts and negative gearing and 1/2 CGT and free franking credit cash coz we’re all aspirational now!

Hiccups wrote:

sypkan wrote:

you spend too much time on the internet
..

Haha! You're on here EVERYDAY talking all manner of shit, ya fucken moron ya.

yeh, but I'm not locked away in my mum's basement like some pasty antifa ideologue, Im usually doing something else at the same time...

usually with sunshine, water and trees not too far away

"Not sure why we can’t have properly funded police forces and criminal justice systems AND community development and intervention type programs to stop offending and reoffending, along with proper funding for health and education etc, but wait..."

yep

but that might take more than a tony abbott style 3 word slogan...

a 3 word slogan that totally gives away their main priority... (that most people disagree with...)

whilst totally obscuring the possible goodness behind the idea... (which most people would possibly agree with...)

as I said, a marketing disaster...

as the democrats found out

eventually...

(seriously, who's advising these people and campaigns? ...they are just too far removed from 'the people'... and that is the main issue across the board...)

Chirp chirp chirp, can’t recall, possibly wrong, but is always just chirping?

indo-dreaming wrote:

Interesting stuff from my favourite lefty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k6X03XvxWw

the conspiracy is real

just the players are arse about face...

'the walls are closing in'

hahaha

hahahahahaha...

the democrats are cooked

it's almost certain it'll be a trump 2024 election

we're gonna see tds2...

which is way scarier than trump...

chirp chirp

Hiccups wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

I honestly think the founders of groups like BLM and many other social justice type groups are just smart in making money from basically nothing.

The founders most likely went to uni did some irrelevant degree, entered the real world didnt want to get a real job cause lets face it most jobs suck, so they start up a social justice type group they have interest in hoping they can at least get by on the income that they grift.

Then the ball starts rolling and they see the opportunity to make more money by saying things or slogans people want to hear or gets them razzed up (the whole system is this or that and needs to be rebuilt thing)

And if they are lucky they end up rolling in cash with a nice real estate portfolio etc

I think it would be a bit like starting a band up thinking you will be a big rock star though, im betting for every one of these groups that get big and rich there is a million that fail or only remain a hobby.

Spectacular take indo, if you ignore the fact the the most prominent grifters sit well and truly to the right.

Your last paragraph is also a completely irrelevant parallel.

Im not sure how you figure that?

Where are all these organisations on the right trying to grift money without providing a service?

Its pretty rare, even individuals YOU might see as grifters for example Avi provide a service an alternative take angle on news, plenty on the left do the same for example, friendly jordies or far left Tom Tankui

Most of the social justice type thing organisations are a grift, even if it starts in a good place, it follows the money, they play on your emotions to give them money, you pay up on the hope it makes some difference when 99% of the time it doesnt, it just provides some people jobs often well paying for doing nothing of any real substance.

Sorry to take off topic .

Email to me .

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What ever Indo dreaming. Tanuki and Friendly Jordies have never actually faked an arrest to collect cash off their fan base. They've never collected $100K for non-existent court cases like Yemini, and they's never bashed their wives with a chopping board.
Yemini is pure scum, and anyone who donates money to this dog is an idiot.
There's a reason why his family have disowned the poisonous garden gnome.

prerty funny nancy pelosi talking up scott morrison's climate change credentials and his 'exuberance' for the cause...

meanwhile the liberal party goons at home, are displaying an apologising tone, as they try to explain to their loyal (mislead) constituents, a pure economic argument of disaster if they do not get on board...

hilarious, in so many ways...

Vic Local wrote:

What ever Indo dreaming. Tanuki and Friendly Jordies have never actually faked an arrest to collect cash off their fan base. They've never collected $100K for non-existent court cases like Yemini, and they's never bashed their wives with a chopping board.
Yemini is pure scum, and anyone who donates money to this dog is an idiot.
There's a reason why his family have disowned the poisonous garden gnome.

As per normally you are full of it, he never faked any arrest and any money raised has been for real court cases that i believe are still ongoing.

Throwing a chopping board at anyone especially a women not something to be proud off, but its also misleading to label it wife bashing, and give the guy credit he admitted his actions and took the punishment handed down, could have easily denied the incident..

As for his family relations, Avi comes from a big family 17 kids, he might not get on with some of his siblings or parents, but he has had a few of his brothers and sisters on the show.

According to his website, he got kicked out of home at 13-years-old, spent time on the streets, in group homes and foster care. His teens spent mostly addicted to heroin and often in trouble with the law.

Many people like that continue on a life of poverty, drug dependency and crime, but he picked himself up kicked his drug habit joined the Israel Defence Force for a few years, can home started a chain of gyms, sold his gyms to do what he does now.

He is still young but obviously has much more life experience than most, and as we have seen recently actually gets out there and reports right from the coal face, opposed to drop kick like Tom who sit in their bedroom giving their two bobs worth that is worth nothing more than any other randoms opinion..

Info says “ .... Where are all these organisations on the right trying to grift money without providing a service? ...”

FS info what parallel universe do live in?

You’re piss-taking Shirley?

If I had false teeth reading that would have launched them across the room.

FFS get a grip on reality

GuySmiley wrote:

Info says “ .... Where are all these organisations on the right trying to grift money without providing a service? ...”

FS info what parallel universe do live in?

You’re piss-taking Shirley?

If I had false teeth reading that would have launched them across the room.

FFS get a grip on reality

So where are they?

You might be able to come up with a short list of political type ones, but nothing like we see on the left, there is literally hundreds possibly thousands trying to create business based on social justice type BS.

Riot news out of Melbourne today. It's all quiet on the Western Front folks.
After days of dog kicking, pissing on the shrine, blocking freeways, and spitting on Vaccine workers, the anti-vax / anti lockdown cookers have been utterly destroyed.
Their main methods of communication have been hijacked by the dreaded "left wing activists" and there's utter chaos online.
The meeting places have been shifted, rescheduled, ridiculed, and reset. People are accusing others of being plants, and nobody trusts anybody anymore. Some of the "leaders" are live-streaming videos abusing their ex-mates. Oh dear.
So far only 1 muppet has shown up and he was promptly arrested.
Bad luck to all the alt-right rabble on this forum. Your side has lost and the good people of Melbourne are glad the scum are off the streets. And Melbournites will long remember the LNP and associated turds who encouraged and excused these violent morons.
Game over.

Union members who vote Labor.

BTW. With many of these social justice type organisations they also chase government funding and grants that can be very good money.

indo-dreaming wrote:

BTW. With many of these social justice type organisations they also chase government funding and grants that can be very good money.

Big call info, can you list say 3 you have in mind and explain why they are gaming the system

VicLocal - It has been done many times before . It is from the government playbook .

"This is why a considerable portion of establishment money, energy and propaganda is directed at defusing or sabotaging any semblance of conservative organization. This includes engineering false flag events and creating potential terror attacks from thin air so that they can be blamed on constitutionally minded groups. The strategy is called “4th Generation Warfare” and it is not conspiracy theory, this is conspiracy fact.

For example, as we now know according to court documentation, the supposed scheme by a Michigan “militia” made up of anarchists to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer and “try her as a tyrant” was heavily infiltrated by at least a dozen FBI agents and informants. The group was so infiltrated, in fact, that the entire plot for the kidnapping was essentially planned out by the FBI. This is the very definition of a false flag. The corruption and entrapment involved in the operation was so egregious that even the leftist media has reported on it."

GuySmiley wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

BTW. With many of these social justice type organisations they also chase government funding and grants that can be very good money.

Big call info, can you list say 3 you have in mind and explain why they are gaming the system

... and there you have it, from chirping to crickets from info, a legend in his own lunchbox.

False flags and Avi love letters?
FFS you blokes are just deadset embarrassing yourselves.
Nurses in Melbourne have been told to change out of their scrubs before going out onto the street because your mob attacked and abused them yesterday. I know who the heroes are here, and it's not the violent moronic men pissing on the Shrine and kicking dogs.
Pretty much every single person in Melbourne is happy this idiotic mob is running out of steam. You two are still cheering them on.
Give it up nutters, it's over. The rabble have lost.

Its getting wild out there

Exhausted ICU Nurse Immediately Joins The CFMEU After Seeing Them Punch On With Anti-Vaxxers

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/icu-nurse-768...

LIFELONG LOYALTY: Victoria has today recorded another 567 new community cases in greater Melbourne, bumping the number of active cases in the state to 5,675.

There are 209 Victorians in hospital, 59 of those are in intensive care and 40 are on a ventilator. Of those in hospital, 86 per cent are not vaccinated and 12 per cent were partially vaccinated.

With these statistics, it is now undeniable that the selfishness of anti-vaxxer conspiracists is directly responsible for the overwhelmed healthcare system.

Frontline workers around the country say they are growing tired of putting their lives at risk to help treat people who end up in ICU beds as a result of the dangerous misinformation that undermines every effort to control this virus.

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/overwhelmed-icu-nurse-imme...

Hey Indo, taxpayer susidies to the fossil fuel industry topped $10.3 billion in '20-'21. That's $19,686 a minute, every minute for the year. Just sayin'.

adam12 wrote:

Hey Indo, taxpayer grants to the fossil fuel industry topped $10.3 billion in '20-'21. Just sayin'.

Chalk and cheese

Im talking organisations that start up with the purpose of chasing grants etc and just trying to create jobs out of thin air for little real purpose, if you are on facebook and commented on one or two of these types of sponsored post (basically adverts) you would know your feed is soon flooded with all kinds of irrelevant organisations in the form of sponsored post.

Fossil fuel companies are established business that provide something important to society and create jobs, pay billions in royalties plus company and payroll tax etc.

BTW. Generally not grants as such, subsidies and reimbursements, a big bulk made up of the diesel excise rebates over 30c for every litre, i understand they get a refund because they aren't using their vehicles or all kinds of machinery on public made roads..

Its like when i lived at Fraser Island as long as i only drove on the island i paid virtually no rego because i wasn't using any proper roads with my vehicle.